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I agree with all of your thoughts on the fight, and it was really a horrible one Namajunas might have  Izzy's style of evading Esparza's takedowns and strikes, but she is not aggressive and explosive enough to get the right timing to take the leap like her last takedown was too late it was good but it was really so much lately, and the crowd is really getting annoyed by what is happening, I think their coach is somewhat to blame here I really don't understand their gameplan at all, and their coach is saying that they are winning, what? by doing nothing? this might be absurd but I really want to see Namajunas fight again like what she did with Zhang Weili, and pretty much this is not the Namajunas back then, and on a post-interview, she said that she won the fight she has done every detail there is to win the fight, which is I think delusional, This is not the Rose Namajunas that I know and love, but I think her coach is to blame for this.


Justin Gaethje has some points in the 1st round, but Charles Oliveira has capitalized on It fast, and pretty much Oliveira just needed to push that striking to Gaethje, and when he sees that opening to Gaethje Oliveira have capitalize from that, and Justin Gaethje just panicked and has given his back to Oliveira, pretty much Charles Oliveira needs his belt, not a title match because he is already champion, just give his belt to him, I really think he deserves that title belt, and they just got a fluke on the weight, but a rules a rule, that is why Oliveira needs to follow it,

Justin rushed, and that was his downfall. Although, Olivera caught Justin multiple times, and hurt him. So, really I don't know how that fight would've gone if Justin didn't dive into that submission. I thought he was doing the right thing for most of the fight, Olivera would take guard as soon as he got hurt, and Justin would ask for him to stand up. That was the game plan, and he needed to not engage on the ground at all, I guess with the excitement of hurting him again he just forgot about the game plan, and ultimately paid the price.

Although, I enjoyed the fight I do wish it went on for a little longer, as it was shaping up to a very entertaining, and competitive fight. Olivera has more power than I thought, and his dangerous ground game, means he can get rocked, and fighters will be reluctant to pounce on him.

Yup Totally unexpected for a shorter fighter and a wrestler, Tony wouldn't expect Chandler to do a frontkick. Tony won the first round, if that kick didn't come up out of the blue, it might have been Tony with a UD.

Olivera was tagged many times against Gathje, it already feel like he'd going to lose the fight because he falls to the ground twice I believe. He was just lucky that Gathje is not up for a ground fight which is also his downfall here. I thought it would be an arm bar.

I had the boxing on at the same time, so I was fortunately able to just watch that instead, but from what I saw that was one of the worst fights I've ever seen. I don't think you could call it a fight. Thought the scorecards were a little wild on it, and to be honest from what I saw, I'm quite glad Rose lost that title. At least Esparza tried to close the distance, and got a few takedowns, while Rose basically shadow boxed the whole fight, and then was surprised why she didn't win. Most anti fighting I've ever seen from a fighter. I don't want to see that rematch, that's for sure.

I just don't understand what the gameplan is, fair enough if she got a few punches off, and then avoided engaging, but she did it right from the off. I honestly had the first two rounds as a 10-10, because nothing actually happened at all, so it was impossible to score in favour of anyone.

Here is the result for my picks on UFC 274


Charles Oliveira VS Justin Gaethje Round 1 WIN

Justin Gaethje said that Oliveira will quit but in this fight, he is the one that quits, I got to Admit Charles Oliveira is following their game plan he has seen some openings to Gaethje, and from that moment, he really caught Justin Gaethje and he was down, that level of stand-up on Oliveira and because of that he caught Gaethje on the ground and of course Justin Gaethje doesn't show any level of Jiu-Jitsu or even struggle or defended on the ground he just literally given his back to Charles Oliveira that Oliveira capitalizes to get that rear-naked choked, Charles Oliveira is a true champion he needs to get back his belt,

Rose Namajunas VS Carla Esparza Round 5 LOST

Well I can not say for sure what I am watching but for sure Rose Namajunas was mimicking Israel Adesanya, but without those strikes, I could say he can surely defend from all those takedowns, man I thought that Rose Namajunas would be aggressive here but there was no much striking, but the judges have judged the fight on Octagon control and not with the fighters advantage and striking, but I am not happy with the fight at all, it is like they don't want to fight at all, I really don't enjoy that fight but I will still look forward on what Namajunas would do or who will she fight next, I don't really think Carla Esparza win this fight and who is the champion at all, but I wish a rematch will take place, but not like this fight it was garbage of a fight, Namajunas might remember what happened to their first fight  for always focusing on that takedown defense,

Michael Chandler VS Tony Ferguson - Round 2 WIN

I hate to say it but I was wrong for saying that Tony Ferguson was weak, he was dominating the 1st round, and all of the stand-up Tony Ferguson was reading Michael Chandler's every move, parrying, countering, and Chandler is just grazing Ferguson, even though Chandler has taken down Ferguson, and Tony was on the ground, many though that Chandler is pulverizing Ferguson, but it just grazing Ferguson, Tony Ferguson has the advantage over Chandler, I got to admit Chandler doesn't have the technicality when it comes to a stand-up fight, but he surely got the power in takedowns, powering and lifting Ferguson, slamming him on the ground, but even though Ferguson is dominating the fight Michael Chandler got an idea a strike that likely he is not using and caught Tony Ferguson by surprise, that Knockout cold Ferguson, and that is a straight leg kick to the chin, a lot of props to Tony Ferguson, he have shown how great of a fighter he really is, and now he is leaving the UFC, and some fans will really miss him but Michael Chandler just shown how he plays an unusual and not really planed and execute it without his opponent knowing it, Ferguson was really surprise from that kick.

Tony looked very good, up until he didn't. It was a bit of a freak knockout, since Chandler as he said doesn't really train for that. It was almost a soccer kick, and not a front kick. The replays weren't pretty, and Ferguson took a while to wake back up. Hopefully, that doesn't have any lasting effects, how many fights does Ferguson have on his current contract? It's always sad to see the decline of a legend, especially when they get knocked out, and beaten up like has in recent fights.

Although, he did actually have Chandler hurt a few times, even though the round must have been around two minutes, maximum? Its a shame, I honestly thought Chandler was going to run through him, but in the end he was actually getting beaten up until the one take down, and that knockout. 

Donald Cerrone pulled out of the fight and there is no specific reason said why he pulled out at the last moment but i think he got to have one more farewell fight if he really wants to do that because he was the go to fighter whenever there was a short notice call and he always fought last moment match ups.

It is time for Maurício Rua to hang his gloves, he is well over 40 years and he is not that fast like he used to be and there is nothing for him to prove now.

Michael Chandler just produced the best front kick knockout in MMA history and this is the first time i am seeing someone knocking out Tony Ferguson and he was out cold for a very long time.

I am really impressed with Charles Oliveira and his submission skills is out of the world.

Full credits to Carla Esparza for winning her belt again because Rose Namajunas was afraid to engage and it was a boring fight. From winning the inaugural belt, she was considered as a fluke winner as she was destroyed when she first defended it and now she reclaimed that gold once again, which is awesome and showcase her determination.

I am glad i stayed away from placing any bet in this fight card. There was three split decision fights in the main event and only Charles Oliveira   and Justin Gaethje, Michael Chandler and Tony Ferguson had a conclusive result because as i did not expect the fight to finished faster and if i placed a bet i might have went over and lost the bets.

Charles Oliveira may i lost his belt because he missed weight but he is proving himself to be a legendary fighter with his submission skills.

Carla Esparza cemented her place having got the number of Rose Namajunas and how to defeat her whenever they face. I expected Rose Namajunas to run over Carla Esparza before the fight but that was not the case.

Here you go.



Well, these results were unexpected. Not in a sense of the outcomes per se, but the duration of the Ferg/chandler and the main fight. These were lightning fast, I thought both would go to a decision.  Nothing much to say about those two, besides that it was chaos (not Khaos because that fight was not ). Even though it was a slow fight, I am glad Esparza took the belt. It seems a repeated pattern with Rose, three wins then a loos, you could almost bet money on it.

Did we comment on Cerrone dropping out of the Lauzon fight? Here is a wild suggestion, maybe Cerrone should hang them up.

He is just not the same anymore since Gaethje fight and now its his 4th consecutive loss so ye Dana will unleash him for this.
Silva's KO of Belfort is also what I remember upon seeing it. Its hard to recover that hit, anyone got kicked that way may also fall that cold. Tony sees is coming, but he reacted slow in avoiding it. 

I was waiting for Joe to ask whether Chandler felt the dizzyness he felt during his fight with Will Brooks. But seems fine.

I thought Tony had it going after round 1 and will continue to dominate the fight in striking but that front kick was so nasty. That's going to be added to the UFC highlights for front kicks along with Silva's KO of Belfort and Machida's KO of Couture. I feel bad for him but I had to play it back a few more times

I hope his corner does the right thing and tell him his career as a pro fighter is over. He's really taken too much damage.

I've got a bone to pick with the UFC refs, I can't remember who was reffing now, probably because I was so annoyed. So, my predictions were going well right, until the Kleydson Rodrigues fight. However, his opponent grabbed the fence three separate times, and even maintained top position because of it. It wasn't punished once. So, whether or not Kleydson Rodrigues lost that fight overall, doesn't matter. When do we start punishing blatant fence grabs, especially when they actually directly benefit the fighter?

I feel there should be a zero tolerance if it results in them bettering their position or maintaining it. One point deduction straight away. I'm more annoyed because it basically ruined my accumulator for the night, but also am annoyed that nothing was done, when it was clear. It wasn't like the ref didn't see it, he bloody warned him all three times! CJ should have had the points deducted at least once, but risk it three times across multiple rounds.

It should be some sort of miscalculation from his team that he missed the weight, he informed through social media two days before the weigh ins that he is doing fine with his weight cut and then to get time to miss weight the first time and still was not able to reduce half a pound is some sort of misunderstanding or the scale he was weighing in the hotel room was wrong.

Unfortunate that he will be missing the belt before getting into the fight.

Here is my pick for the UFC 274

Charles Oliveira VS Justin Gaethje

I really know how awful it is for Oliveira to fight right now because of what happened at the weigh-in, he got stripped of his belt pretty much it is unfortunate and it was his unlucky day for something like this to happen, but for me even though there is a lot going up on his mind right now it doesn't mean that he would slack off from his fight, I think he Charles Oliveira will be in his 100% form, in my opinion, Oliveira can surely finish this in whatever fashion he like Justin Gaethje will be slick with his stand-off fight, and Oliveira needs to really move his head for Gaethje jabs, and because Oliveira doesn't have a good chin, but Oliveira's advantage on this was his reach and he needs to stay on that reach and pressure Gaethje with it, and there is a tendency that Justin Gaethje can lose his focus and may get away from Oliveira's strikes this could be an opportunity for Oliveira in getting on his takedown that is why my pick is still Charles Oliveira.

Rose Namajunas VS Carla Esparza

Wow! look at Rose Namajunas Height on Carla Esparza on the weight in, height and reach advantage pretty much Namajunas can just stay on that reach and give Esparza a hard time with strikes, we can all agree that a win from Zhang Weili is not a fluke it is really well executed by her, and even though Rose Namajunas is in an advantage over Esparza I think she will not underestimate her opponent and could take a technical approach towards her, so my pick will be Rose Namajunas.

Michael Chandler VS Tony Ferguson

Looks like age has given Tony Ferguson a makeover, he looks tired and weak on that picture, or that picture was only a setup so Chandler would lower his guard down, I really wish that Chandler would not give Ferguson a handicap, just because he is retiring from the UFC, I really want Chandler to give him a great fight that he can remember even though it is a lost remark, a great fight is what Tony Ferguson would want, and I really think that Chandler is in his top shape so my pick will be Michael Chandler.

^  A case could be made for Oliveira now as there's value going in for him from being a big favorite to just a slight favorite.  But yeah, I still think he's the pie shitter of the event.  I just feel like Gaethje throw an uppercut in there and knock Oliveira out.  The guy is kinda chinny...  He was dropped by Poirier and Chandler before that.  Gaethje could do it too.  Not too confident tho.  I put him at my bottom ticket.

Here were the weigh in results.

Charles Oliveira (155.5)* vs Justin Gaethje (155)
Rose Namajunas (115) vs Carla Esparza (115)
Michael Chandler (156) vs Tony Ferguson (155.5)
Mauricio Rua (205.5) vs Ovince Saint Preux (205)
Donald Cerrone (155.5) vs Joe Lauzon (155.5)
Andre Fialho (170.5) vs Cameron VanCamp (170)
Randy Brown (170.5) vs Khaos Williams (170)
Macy Chiasson (145.5) vs Norma Dumont (146.5)*
Brandon Royval (125.5) vs Matt Schnell (125.5)
Blagoy Ivanov (253.5) vs Marcos Rogerio de Lima (258.5)
Danny Roberts (170.5) vs Francisco Trinaldo (170.5)
Tracy Cortez (125.5) vs Melissa Gatto (125)
Kleydson Rodrigues (125.5) vs CJ Vergara (126)
Ariane Carnelossi (115.5) vs Loopy Godinez (115)
Fernie Garcia (135.5) vs Journey Newson (135.5)

*Missed weight

Anyway, it's a good thing the main event is still on.  It would suck for the fans who already paid for their tickets, PPV's and those who made the trip to Arizona.  If both fighters want to fight then they should fight.  I just wanna make my bet and watch them sling leather.

Right, my predictions:

Justin Gaethje (I fancied him before all of this missing weight, so I'm sticking with it)
Carla Esparza (Changing it, this is what I was originally going to bet anyhow)
Michael Chandler (Probably my most confident pick of the night)
Ovince St. Preux
Joe Lauzon
Andre Fialho
Randy Brown
Norma Dumont
Brandon Royval
Blagoy Ivanov
Francisco Trinaldo
Tracy Cortez
Kleydson Rodrigues
Lupita Godinez
Fernie Garcia

I've got Justin, OSP, Chandler, Fialho, and Brandon Royval on a rather large accumulator, along with some football. Those are probably my most confident picks of the night. OSP being the lesser confident of the bunch. Along with Justin obviously, since that's going to be a close fight.


Yeah, I took a look, this is the first time this has happened apparently, that''s probably why I couldn't recall it happening. There's a conspiracy theory going on, that the weighing scales were inaccurate, that to be honest I don't there's much weight behind that accusation.

Is that the champion mindset Oliveira has been talking about? XD Anyway, I don't think this makes Olive's will to fight and win, less, I would reckon it actually fires him up even more as he wants to prove himself and say that this was more of an error of judgment than an issue of him being the champion in the first place. As for Justin, nothing changes for him, he still can win it the same as he could have won it earlier.

Oliveira has one of the best boxing and added to that his Jiu-Jitsu is something fighters don't want to ignore, and even Justin Gaethje will surely have trouble dealing with fighters that finish the fight on the ground, but I think the reach advantage of Charles Oliviera can be a big factor here and he just needs to stay on his range and doesn't need to be crazy
 with pressure, Gaethje can have that advantage, and the tendency for Justin Gaethje to lose to Oliveira is if he losses posture that would surely create an opening for Oliveira to slip a takedown,


I feel the same too, I am not a fan of Tony Ferguson, but I am really saddened about this picture, struggling to be the best in his career, but ending up not being on the top, I really think it is time for him to settle down and move on and try other careers, he can surely teach younger kids to be fit and open up his own gym, train younger generations on what he has learned on the UFC, he can surely do that, but I feel sad that he doesn't reach his goals on the UFC, but happy that he will have rest, but to find peace is for him to uncover, it will surely take time, but I will really miss that there was once a Tony Ferguson, that becomes a Legend inside the Octagon.


This must be so frustrating for Charles Oliveira, when he is up on the weighing scale he is pretty much confident that he made the weight but unfortunately after the judge has said that he didn't make it, It was a frustrating and curious Oliveira, fighting Justin Gaethje could have no drive anymore, he might be thinking what is the purposed of this fight, he was stripped of his belt and not a champion anymore, even if Oliveira win this fight he isn't champion anyone, he needs to win another fight just be to champion again, now many are really doubting Oliveira now, there are many things on his head that could cause him to lose on this fight, and the first champion to be stripped of the belt because he missed weight in.

How can this be real? You go to sleep with right weight, wake up being heavier? What can happen to organizm, that made it gain? How can he was not able to cut half pound? Cut hair, spit in a glass, cut nails, take out few teeth  Ive read he was given 2h to cut these half pound. Plenty of time for sauna.

It appears this weight issue for Charlie Olives is causing many people to doubt him hehehe. He did not have a weight issue. In an interview after his weigh in he said he went to sleep with the right weight, however, he woke up 0.5 pounds overweight and he cannot reduce it back to 155 pounds. He was not dehydrated, I reckon. I predict Charlie Olives will submit Justin Gaethje with rear naked choke hehehe.