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December 01, 2021, 03:09:03 PM

You guys can do a little tape study of past matches yourselves at MMACore.  It’s a pretty good site with almost all past events.  And it’s free.

https://mmacore.tv/

Enjoy.  Wink

For years has been my go-to for some fights to watch. However, I am not keen on their video player. And the site usability is also pretty bad, but hey, it does the job to some extent. Do recommend as well.

It is 10 days only until Oliveira vs Poirier fight and the social media are silent, fighters are silent. It is strange not to hear trash talk or someone convincingly announcing that he will knockout cold his opponent. Strange that McGregor is silent, and he likes to attack Poirier in the media Cheesy Maybe that is because he is cheering for Dusting, and expect a fourth fight (title fight) between them.

Oliveira is (if my memory serves me correctly) not really all that good at English, so that could be a reason for the lack of verbal alteration between him and his opponents. The days of stalking through translators are long gone. But for the better, not everyone has to do it.
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December 01, 2021, 12:18:10 PM
I watched some tape of some of the fighters.  Besides Aldo and Fiziev, I like Gruetzemacher at 1.88, Jeremiah Wells at 2.45 and believe it or not, I think Maki Pitolo at 2.31 is a good spot.  Lol.  Cheesy

You guys can do a little tape study of past matches yourselves at MMACore.  It’s a pretty good site with almost all past events.  And it’s free.

https://mmacore.tv/

Enjoy.  Wink
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December 01, 2021, 09:48:19 AM
It is 10 days only until Oliveira vs Poirier fight and the social media are silent, fighters are silent. It is strange not to hear trash talk or someone convincingly announcing that he will knockout cold his opponent. Strange that McGregor is silent, and he likes to attack Poirier in the media Cheesy Maybe that is because he is cheering for Dusting, and expect a fourth fight (title fight) between them.

Are we favouring Makhachev over Poirier, and Oliveria?

I just want Makhachev to fight someone from the top5. On the other hand, he has 9 wins in a row, it should be enough to test him and give title fight instantly.
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December 01, 2021, 07:51:50 AM
I'm skipping Font vs. Aldo and just put my money (that's supposed to be for Font) on the next event. Even though I'm 50-50 on who will take the belt, I couldn't resist the odds at 2.30+ on Charles which is higher than what's currently offered on Rob (1.60+).
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December 01, 2021, 07:49:26 AM
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I am really looking forward to that day happening, even though many are seeing Khamzat Chimaev is just pure hype, for me, I have seen potential with his technical striking, and wrestling he is an all-rounder and has the strength to push his takedowns, and just like Cyril Gane that everyone is saying is just a pure hype I think he can move his way up until he reach that title match he deserves.
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It's true that media loves to write about him, they want to write clickbaity articles, and his name is clickbait already. But, idk, are there examples of someone hyped that much while being unworthy? I don't mean artists, singers and stuff, I mean MMA fighters.

Not a single word about Clay Guida on last pages of this topic Cheesy Previously this guy gained a lot of attention. They guy has fought nearly every decent start of his division. This weekend I think we will expect his another loss.

He really looks like a caveman Cheesy


Well, with that look you may not look convincing on a philosophical conference, and hardly anyone will invest in a new crypto token that you promote, but it's a perfect look to scare the sh*t out of your opponent. Regarding his possible loss to Leonardo Santos, idk, I think Clay can beat him. Imo Santos is too old to continue with fighting. Did you see how he lost to Grant Dawson?
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November 30, 2021, 07:14:58 PM
Are we favouring Makhachev over Poirier, and Oliveria? I think that's a very close fight between all of them. I think the up, and coming fight between Poirier, and Oliveria is going to be a close one. I think the odds being so heavily in favour of Poirer is rather generous. Even though, I do think Poirier will edge it, I was expecting the odds to be something like 1.90 each.

Though, I would say that Makhachev is the underdog for both of those fights.

Either way, Neither Poirier nor Olivera will have an easy year, that's for sure.
I guess it depends on the amount of damage each fighter takes, but if Oliveria loses I expect a rematch to be made rather than Makhachev getting the title shot. So, I don't think Makhachev will be getting either one of them in 2022.
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November 30, 2021, 06:17:58 PM
If Makhachev wins Dariush, will his next fight will be a fight for a belt, or he will meet the looser of Olivera vs Poirier ? Cheesy

But yeah..  looking at Makhachev‘s last 5 matches, it looks like he hasn’t been against an elite grappler like Dariush in the UFC.

Good point. Remember when in Makhachevs last fight was trying to perform kimura, and Khabib gave him an advice to put leg on Hookers head to increase pressure. I know that during the fight you cant remember all the tricks you've been taught, but that was quite obvious to do than and immobilize Hooker more on the ground. You might be right, that against a really elite grappler, he might have huge problems and Makhachevs wrestling is not a solution to everything.


Tittle fight for sure. Or an interim fight. There is no way other than injury could let the new or old champ avoid this fight. I'd say the winner of PvsO to Makhachev and the loser to Dariush. Either way, Neither Poirier nor Olivera will have an easy year, that's for sure. On the other hand, the division hasn't looked this exciting in a hor minute.
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November 30, 2021, 05:24:49 PM
I'm going with an accumulator which combines the next two events. Mainly being the favourites this time around. Early picks of the bunch are:

Sean O'Malley (Though to be honest wouldn't be surprised he loses this one)
Dustin Poirier via finish
Gillian Robertson
Brendan Allen
Buys

You aren't going to get much return from these, but it might be worth putting Gillian Roberston via submission, and Brendan Allen via decision if you want to pump those numbers up a little. I'd say the riskiest one here is Poirer, since I think Oliveria definitely has a chance here, and the odds on Poirier winning are a little inflated to be honest.
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November 30, 2021, 10:36:14 AM
Not a single word about Clay Guida on last pages of this topic Cheesy Previously this guy gained a lot of attention. They guy has fought nearly every decent start of his division. This weekend I think we will expect his another loss.

He really looks like a caveman Cheesy


I am interested in Riddell vs Fiziev fight. Both fighters are close on top. Both have close odds. Both are on a series of wins. Both has good chances to fight someone from top10 and in 1 or 2 fights join title race.

Chric Curtis looks like Curtis Blaydes. Damn, English names and Surnames are hard. Is it possible to get a combination of Curtis Curtis ? How is possible when one "name" can be both Name and Surname?

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November 30, 2021, 10:10:05 AM
^  Intruiging match up.  And either one who wins could get a shot for the title next.  But yeah..  looking at Makhachev‘s last 5 matches, it looks like he hasn’t been against an elite grappler like Dariush in the UFC.  I mean Thiago Moises is supposedly a good grappler but nothing like Dariush.  

Here’s the Tapology page for the match up.

https://www.tapology.com/fightcenter/bouts/617723-ufc-fight-night-beneil-benny-dariush-vs-islam-makhachev

It’s also 5 rounds.  That Dariush gas tank will be tested and he’s a bit chinny.

Yeah, kinda worried about that when it comes to Dariush, but, it seems he really has been improving from fight to fight, and...well, This is his biggest test. The thing is, if he wins he's gonna be champ, I can feel it, but if he loses he'll drop really low. The same does not apply to Makhachev, he loses and he's still up there with the best of them. So there is seemingly less spotlight on Dariush, but more at risk.

I think Makhachev has the higher ceiling and could prolly beat Poirier, Oliviera, Gaethje and Chandler if given the chance to be matched up with them.  Dariush vs some of those guys is a toss up and some could be an underdog spot.

Anyway..  Who you guys got for the next event?  I’m thinking Aldo and Fiziev.  And prolly Pitolo. He’s due!  Cheesy  Lolol.

UFC Free Fight:  Aldo vs Munhoz
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlWSO7E3YZw

UFC Free Fight:  Font vs Garbrandt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnwJlr7x33Q

^  Munhoz is known for his nasty leg kicks.  Watch Aldo avoid them just by making small movements.  Cheesy
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November 30, 2021, 07:38:12 AM
If Makhachev wins Dariush, will his next fight will be a fight for a belt, or he will meet the looser of Olivera vs Poirier ? Cheesy

But yeah..  looking at Makhachev‘s last 5 matches, it looks like he hasn’t been against an elite grappler like Dariush in the UFC.

Good point. Remember when in Makhachevs last fight was trying to perform kimura, and Khabib gave him an advice to put leg on Hookers head to increase pressure. I know that during the fight you cant remember all the tricks you've been taught, but that was quite obvious to do than and immobilize Hooker more on the ground. You might be right, that against a really elite grappler, he might have huge problems and Makhachevs wrestling is not a solution to everything.
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November 29, 2021, 05:52:29 PM

He started wrestling when he was 5 years old, and he is a three-time Swedish National champion in wrestling. So, I agree with you when you say "he has the best grappling". I mean, it's not entirely surprising, right? Smiley

This is why between Gilbert Burns if Chimaev would surely have a problem with Wrestling against Burns I think he may result in striking and I am very confident with the power of his striking, but I still think against Chimaev, Burns will surely have a hard time with his Chain Wrestling, and even if they are on the ringside it is still proven effective, that is why I am really confident on Khamzat Chimaev.

I think if nothing extraordinary happens, I'm betting on Khamzat during the following year or two, no matter who he is going to fight. In no way it's a recipe for successful betting. It's just my little experiment.

Well, if Khamzat Chimaev would rise as a champion and beat up Kamaru Usman, I think he can be a very massive wall for Welterweight challengers, don't get me wrong I said if we beat the way up the Welterweight division and beat Kamaru Usman then that is what's going to happen,

I am really looking forward to that day happening, even though many are seeing Khamzat Chimaev is just pure hype, for me, I have seen potential with his technical striking, and wrestling he is an all-rounder and has the strength to push his takedowns, and just like Cyril Gane that everyone is saying is just a pure hype I think he can move his way up until he reach that title match he deserves.

Rob Font VS Jose Aldo

I think this is the only fight worth looking at, Rob Font, sure have good striking, and have good takedown defense but getting a match with Jose Aldo I think he doesn't have what it takes yet, this is just my opinion, you can say that Aldo has many experiences but that fight with Cody Garbrandt looks awesome, but that is the only fight remember about him, but with Jose Aldo, he has fought great opponent like Conor McGregor, Alexander Volkanovski, Petr Yan, Max Holloway, even though he lost to those fighters I think the experience would surely be paid off by just fighting that opponent, and against Rob Font, this will surely surface, when he fought Marlon Vera a technical striker, I think he might do that again against Font when Jose Aldo fought Petr Yan he Savage kicks his front leg that Yan shifted to southpaw, but Yan is so good of a boxer that he still beats Aldo if he can be done that to Font and Rob Font style would crubble because of that then Aldo will sure win this, Stake odds for this fight 1.67 for Rob Font and 2.17 for Jose Aldo but I will go with Jose Aldo.
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November 29, 2021, 05:05:04 PM
I think I'll be going for Dariush in that match up, not sure what he odds will be, but I suspect with the hype behind Makhachev, he might get the nod as the favourite. Honestly, probably a good idea to bet on the underdog, regardless who it is as I expect a close wrestling match, which likely goes the distance. So, someone by decision sounds the most lucrative bet.

Some good fights in February of next year. Hopefully on the 12th of December we have a good end of the year event, and start it off with a bang with the Izzy vs Whittaker fight, and Islam vs Benny in Feb.
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November 29, 2021, 11:54:15 AM
^  Intruiging match up.  And either one who wins could get a shot for the title next.  But yeah..  looking at Makhachev‘s last 5 matches, it looks like he hasn’t been against an elite grappler like Dariush in the UFC.  I mean Thiago Moises is supposedly a good grappler but nothing like Dariush. 

Here’s the Tapology page for the match up.

https://www.tapology.com/fightcenter/bouts/617723-ufc-fight-night-beneil-benny-dariush-vs-islam-makhachev

It’s also 5 rounds.  That Dariush gas tank will be tested and he’s a bit chinny.

Yeah, kinda worried about that when it comes to Dariush, but, it seems he really has been improving from fight to fight, and...well, This is his biggest test. The thing is, if he wins he's gonna be champ, I can feel it, but if he loses he'll drop really low. The same does not apply to Makhachev, he loses and he's still up there with the best of them. So there is seemingly less spotlight on Dariush, but more at risk.
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November 29, 2021, 07:07:41 AM
^  If Usman and Chimaev were to fight next, how would you line the fight or how do you think the sports betting sites will line it..?

I think they will open the market line right in the middle.  Prolly 1.90 - 2.00 for either one of them making it a coin flip.  Sharp money usually come first to find value but if lined in the middle, the sharps would not want to move the line first and give value to whoever becomes the underdog.  Chimaev could be that special.

I agree. Although I'm saying all the time that Chimaev would beat Usman if there was a fight, of course I understand that in reality it's a coin flip. Like who can be that stupid to underestimated a great fighter like Kamaru Usman.


He started wrestling when he was 5 years old, and he is a three-time Swedish National champion in wrestling. So, I agree with you when you say "he has the best grappling". I mean, it's not entirely surprising, right? Smiley

This is why between Gilbert Burns if Chimaev would surely have a problem with Wrestling against Burns I think he may result in striking and I am very confident with the power of his striking, but I still think against Chimaev, Burns will surely have a hard time with his Chain Wrestling, and even if they are on the ringside it is still proven effective, that is why I am really confident on Khamzat Chimaev.

I think if nothing extraordinary happens, I'm betting on Khamzat during the following year or two, no matter who he is going to fight. In no way it's a recipe for successful betting. It's just my little experiment.
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November 28, 2021, 06:10:04 PM

An Islam Makhachev fight is what I am waiting for, and against another wrestler, I think this could be an interesting match-up, and Beneil Dariush is a Black belt of Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu and Muay Thai against a Combat Sambo, Dagestan fighter, this is going to be interesting, I am really going with Islam Makhachev because I really love the style of Combat Sambo and Chain Wrestling we could really see if what type of Wrestling is more convenient inside the octagon.


I wonder if Dariush BJJ could cancel the Dagestan ground game a bit. He's got some nice accomplishments under his belt, both in Gi and NO Gi when it comes to BJJ competition, however, he has a loss to Chiesa from a neck crank I think, so I don't know what happened there, but, I am on the Dariush hype train so I'll be a bit biased this time around XD It's not like Makhacev didn't have BJJ opposition before, recent being Thiago Moises, but, I kinda wanna think Dariush can bring something a bit more competitive to the table. Fuck, I'm hyped.

It is really interesting if which wrestling will dominate, and if you are hype, I am pretty hype aswell, and I am going with Islam Makachev all the way, pretty much we will see a possible counter for both sides, but for me, I am looking at the amount of power they will put on along with their Grappling,

So I am really expecting Dariush BBJ is also good, but this will surely be a fight of strength and endurance if it would go to the ground, I don't know If I have said this to the thread over and over, but what is good about Islam Makachev's wrestling was it has a chain a simultaneous combo that he can pull off, and even though they are near the steel bar it doesn't matter because Dagestan wrestling really works out fine even in those circumstances, and yeah I am really biased here because I would like Makachev winning this match.
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November 28, 2021, 02:15:32 PM
^  Intruiging match up.  And either one who wins could get a shot for the title next.  But yeah..  looking at Makhachev‘s last 5 matches, it looks like he hasn’t been against an elite grappler like Dariush in the UFC.  I mean Thiago Moises is supposedly a good grappler but nothing like Dariush. 

Here’s the Tapology page for the match up.

https://www.tapology.com/fightcenter/bouts/617723-ufc-fight-night-beneil-benny-dariush-vs-islam-makhachev

It’s also 5 rounds.  That Dariush gas tank will be tested and he’s a bit chinny.
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November 28, 2021, 10:51:15 AM

An Islam Makhachev fight is what I am waiting for, and against another wrestler, I think this could be an interesting match-up, and Beneil Dariush is a Black belt of Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu and Muay Thai against a Combat Sambo, Dagestan fighter, this is going to be interesting, I am really going with Islam Makhachev because I really love the style of Combat Sambo and Chain Wrestling we could really see if what type of Wrestling is more convenient inside the octagon.


I wonder if Dariush BJJ could cancel the Dagestan ground game a bit. He's got some nice accomplishments under his belt, both in Gi and NO Gi when it comes to BJJ competition, however, he has a loss to Chiesa from a neck crank I think, so I don't know what happened there, but, I am on the Dariush hype train so I'll be a bit biased this time around XD It's not like Makhacev didn't have BJJ opposition before, recent being Thiago Moises, but, I kinda wanna think Dariush can bring something a bit more competitive to the table. Fuck, I'm hyped.
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November 28, 2021, 08:17:10 AM
News from UFC is that Beneil Dariush will fight Islam Makhachev as main event of UFC Fight Night on February 26, 2022!
This interesting fight is between number 3 and number 4 ranked fighter, so it's possible that we could see Justin Gaethje against winner of Charles Oliveira vs Dustin Poirier.


An Islam Makhachev fight is what I am waiting for, and against another wrestler, I think this could be an interesting match-up, and Beneil Dariush is a Black belt of Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu and Muay Thai against a Combat Sambo, Dagestan fighter, this is going to be interesting, I am really going with Islam Makhachev because I really love the style of Combat Sambo and Chain Wrestling we could really see if what type of Wrestling is more convenient inside the octagon.

And with Charles Oliveira that recently defeated Tony Ferguson and Michael Chandler, against Dustin Poirier, is a good fight a fight that is anticipated by many, my thought I would surely look forward In the performance of Oliveira, if he can surely make a technical win against Dustin Poirier, that is also a fighter that will surely make adjustments, with fighters that he faces,

I really don't like the event right now and it will start December 5 so it is surely a long break for UFC, but I am more anticipating the future fights and what I am anticipating right now was the Cyril Gane VS Francis Ngannou fight,  The UFC 270 that could be on January 23, 2022.
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November 28, 2021, 04:52:28 AM
News from UFC is that Beneil Dariush will fight Islam Makhachev as main event of UFC Fight Night on February 26, 2022!
This interesting fight is between number 3 and number 4 ranked fighter, so it's possible that we could see Justin Gaethje against winner of Charles Oliveira vs Dustin Poirier.


The fight most of us really wanted, but also didn't want XD I just am not keen on seeing any of them loose XD However, I am a big Dariush fan and I really want to see him bring out the best tools and see him tested. I mean, as far as personal preferences, this is a title fight for me. The winner of this goes for the title, that's it.
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