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February 24, 2022, 06:44:45 AM
I know this is not MMA news but seems EAGLE FC is eying a GSB vs Khabib grappling match. That seems interesting. As for Green vs Makachev, this isn't the best decision Makachev and his team could have made. Yeah, on paper Makachev get's a fairly easy win, but, what if he doesn't? It's still MMA and anything can happen so what if he doesn't? Then he falls so deep back into the division it will make the Kola Superdeep Borehole look like a mole hole.
There is no way Khabib is going to fight in his promotion nor he will come back to fight. Khabib is the only fighter i have seen till now who makes a decision and then stick to that decision. I a sure Dana White offered him millions to take another fight but he was not interested and was even open to GSP fight in the UFC but Khabib did not change his mind and i doubt he will ever fight in MMA.

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Who is GSB? Did you mean to type GSP? Yes this will certainly help Eagle FC in marketing and promotion of the organization and also help them increase their fans. However, if Khabib wants to grow his business much more quickly he should offer Conor to be a shareholder in his company as payment to be a fighter for Eagle FC hehehe. This is will be a master level business move by Khabib if Conor agrees.
Khabib is having some rich friends and if he is in trouble or needs money, he will be able to raise money from his Arab friends. I doubt Khabib will ever offer any partnership to Conor McGregor.

We are not talking about an MMA match with GSP but a grappling match. So nothing like that could have been offered to him in UFC because UFC is not a promotion that has grappling matches. So having a more or less exhibition wrestling and grappling match and actually fighting an MMA fight are two completely different things. I haven't seen any indications of Khabib being able to stick to that kind of decision. Hell, he missed weight due to an alleged altercation with a tiramisu so I doubt he's that solid on his determinations Cheesy All jokes aside, fighters have come back from longer retirements so I don't see why he would be any different.
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February 23, 2022, 11:49:56 PM
Khabib is having some rich friends and if he is in trouble or needs money, he will be able to raise money from his Arab friends. I doubt Khabib will ever offer any partnership to Conor McGregor.

If that is cased, then that would be much better because Mc Gregor is no longer have fame because of his injury and a number of losses. There will be not much more to offer when they want to promote their partnership with a comeback fight because everyone knows who will gonna win. Instead, Kabeeb needs to put his effort into promotions since he only started his business and maybe he can do that by only getting some real fighters to fight there not a celebrity fighter who already retired long2x time ago and to boost his company as well, he needs to keep have some fights every week like how UFC started.

Connor still has the fame, all it needs is a date of a fight against Jones vs Connor, I think they are not both light-heavyweight this time.
This Connor vs Jones and some other champions moving to Eagle like Ngannou. Hard to put these names on Eagle though but UFC having a really good competitor will likely make Dana realize how the MMA fighters felt with his management.
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February 23, 2022, 11:08:57 PM
Khabib is having some rich friends and if he is in trouble or needs money, he will be able to raise money from his Arab friends. I doubt Khabib will ever offer any partnership to Conor McGregor.

If that is cased, then that would be much better because Mc Gregor is no longer have fame because of his injury and a number of losses. There will be not much more to offer when they want to promote their partnership with a comeback fight because everyone knows who will gonna win. Instead, Kabeeb needs to put his effort into promotions since he only started his business and maybe he can do that by only getting some real fighters to fight there not a celebrity fighter who already retired long2x time ago and to boost his company as well, he needs to keep have some fights every week like how UFC started.
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February 23, 2022, 06:59:50 PM
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~ However, if Khabib wants to grow his business much more quickly he should offer Conor to be a shareholder in his company as payment to be a fighter for Eagle FC hehehe. This is will be a master level business move by Khabib if Conor agrees.
~ I doubt Khabib will ever offer any partnership to Conor McGregor.
Yeah it's unlikely that he'll have talks with Conor about any potential partnership after what happened between the two of them. He'll surely attract PPVs as he's good at selling fights but I think Khabib is more of a MMA purist and won't let his organization become a hype show. Maybe a shareholder but not as one of his fighters.
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February 23, 2022, 06:51:52 PM
I know this is not MMA news but seems EAGLE FC is eying a GSB vs Khabib grappling match. That seems interesting. As for Green vs Makachev, this isn't the best decision Makachev and his team could have made. Yeah, on paper Makachev get's a fairly easy win, but, what if he doesn't? It's still MMA and anything can happen so what if he doesn't? Then he falls so deep back into the division it will make the Kola Superdeep Borehole look like a mole hole.
There is no way Khabib is going to fight in his promotion nor he will come back to fight. Khabib is the only fighter i have seen till now who makes a decision and then stick to that decision. I a sure Dana White offered him millions to take another fight but he was not interested and was even open to GSP fight in the UFC but Khabib did not change his mind and i doubt he will ever fight in MMA.

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Who is GSB? Did you mean to type GSP? Yes this will certainly help Eagle FC in marketing and promotion of the organization and also help them increase their fans. However, if Khabib wants to grow his business much more quickly he should offer Conor to be a shareholder in his company as payment to be a fighter for Eagle FC hehehe. This is will be a master level business move by Khabib if Conor agrees.
Khabib is having some rich friends and if he is in trouble or needs money, he will be able to raise money from his Arab friends. I doubt Khabib will ever offer any partnership to Conor McGregor.
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February 23, 2022, 05:29:13 PM
Bobby Green isn't going to bring much to the table, a decent fighter but it's probably one of the most mismatched fights on the card. I've got some picks I've chucked into a football accumulator which I'm fairly confident in:

Ramiz Brahimaj
Islam Makhachev

I'll be including another bet which has a few more fighters on, although I think these fights are as confident as one can get before a fight. Obviously, anything can happen in that cage as we recently saw with Nunes, however I'm still pretty confident on these ones, I think they win nine times out of ten. Makhachev might be worth betting a finish, I think we could see him get either a submission or a TKO.
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February 23, 2022, 11:19:41 AM

Everybody seem to be avoiding Islam so give Green a salute for the courage. He doesnt even have a considerable knockout rate. Good luck to him.


I know this is not MMA news but seems EAGLE FC is eying a GSB vs Khabib grappling match. That seems interesting. As for Green vs Makachev, this isn't the best decision Makachev and his team could have made. Yeah, on paper Makachev get's a fairly easy win, but, what if he doesn't? It's still MMA and anything can happen so what if he doesn't? Then he falls so deep back into the division it will make the Kola Superdeep Borehole look like a mole hole.

Who is GSB? Did you mean to type GSP? Yes this will certainly help Eagle FC in marketing and promotion of the organization and also help them increase their fans. However, if Khabib wants to grow his business much more quickly he should offer Conor to be a shareholder in his company as payment to be a fighter for Eagle FC hehehe. This is will be a master level business move by Khabib if Conor agrees.

Oh come on, you know I meant GSP, it was a typo Cheesy And not just GSP, but 'Best life' GSP as he seems to be living his best life after stepping out of fighting. I am certain Conor would take him up if that type of offer came up XD I mean, seriously, without Conor fighting, those two would make a serious business threat if paired, maybe even disrupting the current balance of MMA power (UFC, Bellator, ONE...). And I bet Conor would be totally up to it, KHabib seems to be the problem here.

In other news, dashcam footage of Jon Jones arrest has surfaced, and Chad Mendes seems to be back on the juice, at least that's what Bisping says Smiley

Not the kind of shareholder that Khabib might want. Connor is the type of person who dominates not just in decision making but also the money to cut. If Khabib can arrange themselves for a fight with Connor that might be best for promotion for Eagle.
GSP looks solid still despite the age, he'll do. Many of us are still a fan of this guy.


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February 23, 2022, 10:22:59 AM
No-no, dont bet on Green. He will lose anyway  Grin that want simply be a subday walk for Makhachev. I think Green would struggle more than Hooker.  Grin

I am disappointed with Makhachev not fighting Dariush. If Makhachev wins, his next fight could be a title fight against Oliveira. But now, we would have to wait for half a year for next fight and probably would see a title fight only next year. Respect to Makhachev for accepting Green as an opponent. He could have cancelled this fight, as he might lose and risk missing a spot in title race, and let Green get top5 place.

I know I know...  Lol.  I think I’ve made enough dumb bets like that because I’d think that the match could be closer and so it’s a value bet for the underdog.  I mean if you watch the matches they did come out ending close but still ending with an L.  Still ended up losing the bet.  -_-  But this underdog spot for Alvarez tho, I think he could win.  He is yuuge for a light weight.

Here’s a couple of vids.  Enjoy!

UFC Free Fight:  Makhachev vs Hooker
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lgsYU1glPU

UFC Free Fight:  Green vs Iaquinta
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1jwu0rc6jI

Edit:  Alvarez down to 2.75 now from 3.35.  It could go down to 2.30 - 2.50 by Saturday imo.
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February 23, 2022, 08:56:15 AM
I know this is not MMA news but seems EAGLE FC is eying a GSB vs Khabib grappling match. That seems interesting. As for Green vs Makachev, this isn't the best decision Makachev and his team could have made. Yeah, on paper Makachev get's a fairly easy win, but, what if he doesn't? It's still MMA and anything can happen so what if he doesn't? Then he falls so deep back into the division it will make the Kola Superdeep Borehole look like a mole hole.

Who is GSB? Did you mean to type GSP? Yes this will certainly help Eagle FC in marketing and promotion of the organization and also help them increase their fans. However, if Khabib wants to grow his business much more quickly he should offer Conor to be a shareholder in his company as payment to be a fighter for Eagle FC hehehe. This is will be a master level business move by Khabib if Conor agrees.

Oh come on, you know I meant GSP, it was a typo Cheesy And not just GSP, but 'Best life' GSP as he seems to be living his best life after stepping out of fighting. I am certain Conor would take him up if that type of offer came up XD I mean, seriously, without Conor fighting, those two would make a serious business threat if paired, maybe even disrupting the current balance of MMA power (UFC, Bellator, ONE...). And I bet Conor would be totally up to it, KHabib seems to be the problem here.

In other news, dashcam footage of Jon Jones arrest has surfaced, and Chad Mendes seems to be back on the juice, at least that's what Bisping says Smiley
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February 23, 2022, 05:01:26 AM

Dunno..  I still think Makhachev gets an easy win, kinda like how he fought and won vs Dan Hooker.

Anyway I’m still sad Makhachev‘s not fighting Dariush.  Winning vs Dariush would clinch him a title shot.  I’m not sure if he’ll be given a title shot after winning vs Green.  Sad

Well, the feeling is mutual, I really think that Makhachev would easily win against Bobby Green, even though the life story of Green is a sad one, I really think that Islam Makhachev can get an easy win against him, and with Beneil Dariush's part If this is legit and is not making this up, then he better prepare and gets well soon, and maybe after this match with Bobby Green Makhachev could take on Beneil Dariush, or Dustin Poirier this time, of not a single fighter from the Lightweight division wants a match with Islam Makhachev, this is really frustrating.

^  Yeah maybe I’m wrong and maybe Bobby Green could make the match closer than how the bookies lined it but a better comparison for Makachev is the Nunes of old when she was still rising in the ranks and still staking her claim in the UFC.  And Makhachev could be something special...  Kinda like Khabib was. 

...  Maybe if I hadn’t lost in the last couple of events I’d make a small bet on Green.  But no, I promised myself no more leaks.  Lol.  My most confident underdog bet would be Alvarez.  The line went from 3.35 to 2.80.

Don't change your mind just because green has the potential to eradicate that judgment that Islam Makhachev will win this, in what I have said in my previous post if you look at Bobby Green's fight with Rashid Magomedov a Dagestan Combat Sambo Championships Runner-up have beat Green even though there are no videos of their fight, I really think that Islam Makhachev will outperform Rashid Magomedov over Bobby Green, and if you look at Islam Makachev previous training he is super buff right now, and ready to fight even though Bobby Green is Mentally powerful Makachev will surely break him.

I know this is not MMA news but seems EAGLE FC is eying a GSB vs Khabib grappling match. That seems interesting. As for Green vs Makachev, this isn't the best decision Makachev and his team could have made. Yeah, on paper Makachev get's a fairly easy win, but, what if he doesn't? It's still MMA and anything can happen so what if he doesn't? Then he falls so deep back into the division it will make the Kola Superdeep Borehole look like a mole hole.

A Khabib Nurmagomedov fight? I would love to see that, and it is surely an interesting fight, and with the Islam Makhachev VS Bobby Green fight, it is a letdown if Makhachev would have an upset lost to Green and Makhachev's rank could fall really deep, but apparently, Makhachev is a man that never backs down to a fight, so Bobby Green is very lucky in getting this fight because if he wins that would be a ticket to the upper ranks, but I am confident that Islam Makhachev will win this one.
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February 23, 2022, 04:24:58 AM
I think relationship between Conor and Khabib are so bad, that even if they were stuck alone on an island, no one would share last drop of fresh water to save other. Still, when someone post something positive about Khabib and somehow tag Conor, he immediately replies.

If Khabib organizes a grappling or exhibition match against GSP, will GSP give him a proper competition? His last fight was in 2017, after a 4 year pause. While Khabib trains with Makhachev and other, GSP trains to be fit.
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February 23, 2022, 12:56:38 AM
I know this is not MMA news but seems EAGLE FC is eying a GSB vs Khabib grappling match. That seems interesting. As for Green vs Makachev, this isn't the best decision Makachev and his team could have made. Yeah, on paper Makachev get's a fairly easy win, but, what if he doesn't? It's still MMA and anything can happen so what if he doesn't? Then he falls so deep back into the division it will make the Kola Superdeep Borehole look like a mole hole.

Who is GSB? Did you mean to type GSP? Yes this will certainly help Eagle FC in marketing and promotion of the organization and also help them increase their fans. However, if Khabib wants to grow his business much more quickly he should offer Conor to be a shareholder in his company as payment to be a fighter for Eagle FC hehehe. This is will be a master level business move by Khabib if Conor agrees.
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February 22, 2022, 02:13:18 PM
I know this is not MMA news but seems EAGLE FC is eying a GSB vs Khabib grappling match. That seems interesting. As for Green vs Makachev, this isn't the best decision Makachev and his team could have made. Yeah, on paper Makachev get's a fairly easy win, but, what if he doesn't? It's still MMA and anything can happen so what if he doesn't? Then he falls so deep back into the division it will make the Kola Superdeep Borehole look like a mole hole.
Would be a smart move for promoting the organisation, especially as it would be Khabib's 30th fight, in fact I might actually be a little cheeky here, and say this was planned from the start. Nah, of course we know the reasons why Khabib retired like he did, a lot of us think it was a little too early for a fighter his age, and calibre, but he had legitimate reasons to do so.

I'd definitely tune in to see Khabib back in action though, although he wins that grappling match.
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February 22, 2022, 01:30:44 PM
I know this is not MMA news but seems EAGLE FC is eying a GSB vs Khabib grappling match. That seems interesting. As for Green vs Makachev, this isn't the best decision Makachev and his team could have made. Yeah, on paper Makachev get's a fairly easy win, but, what if he doesn't? It's still MMA and anything can happen so what if he doesn't? Then he falls so deep back into the division it will make the Kola Superdeep Borehole look like a mole hole.
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February 22, 2022, 12:45:01 PM
No-no, dont bet on Green. He will lose anyway  Grin that want simply be a subday walk for Makhachev. I think Green would struggle more than Hooker.  Grin

I am disappointed with Makhachev not fighting Dariush. If Makhachev wins, his next fight could be a title fight against Oliveira. But now, we would have to wait for half a year for next fight and probably would see a title fight only next year. Respect to Makhachev for accepting Green as an opponent. He could have cancelled this fight, as he might lose and risk missing a spot in title race, and let Green get top5 place.
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February 22, 2022, 11:28:37 AM
^  Yeah maybe I’m wrong and maybe Bobby Green could make the match closer than how the bookies lined it but a better comparison for Makachev is the Nunes of old when she was still rising in the ranks and still staking her claim in the UFC.  And Makhachev could be something special...  Kinda like Khabib was. 

...  Maybe if I hadn’t lost in the last couple of events I’d make a small bet on Green.  But no, I promised myself no more leaks.  Lol.  My most confident underdog bet would be Alvarez.  The line went from 3.35 to 2.80.
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February 22, 2022, 10:19:53 AM
Dunno..  I still think Makhachev gets an easy win, kinda like how he fought and won vs Dan Hooker.

Have you seen odds ? Cheesy There is a small chance we see Nunes vs Pena outcome Cheesy

At first I also though that this is going to be an easy fight for Makhachev. He is a wrestler, Green is an universal fighter, and as soon as Makhachev takes Green to the ground it will be over. But lets look on what can Green put against Islam. He has a nice and quick jab. He has great stamina, or iron chin, or good wrestling skills. As his all fights are 3*5min long. What else - his intention to fight. A lot of his fights ended with decision. It is hard to break him mentally. He is like Ferguson that just don't surrender. I just found out that his fight against Guida, Vannata, Patrick and Moises were on short notice. And he has won 3 of them.

Not to mention that he has ball to accept this fight against top4 on a short notice. He is not like other, who run from Makhachev just to save their fighting record. I've just watches some reviews of him, at I've got an impression that he never steps in the octagon just to get a cheque.
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^  Yeah I feel like Makhachev could make it look really easy.  I wonder that lines are gonna be for Makhachev win R1 and R2.  I think anything above 3.00 is value imho.  Same with the under 2.5 rounds, I feel like anything over pickem odds is good.  All in all it’s another chalky event.

And yup, Walker is kek these says.  There was a time everybody thought he was going to be this top prospect who could beat Jon Jones at the time.

The fight was against Beneil Dariush, but instead, we get Bobby Green, but respect to Bobby Green, because just like you I think this could be an easy fight for Islam Makachev that is a 4 times Combat Sambo Russian National champion, and Bobby Green was beaten by Rashid Magomedov that is a runner-up on the Combat Sambo Champion,

Johnny Walker needs to be free from the clutches of his trainers, or coaches, he is not the same Walker that I have seen back then, I think he needs to be himself.

Dunno..  I still think Makhachev gets an easy win, kinda like how he fought and won vs Dan Hooker.

Anyway I’m still sad Makhachev‘s not fighting Dariush.  Winning vs Dariush would clinch him a title shot.  I’m not sure if he’ll be given a title shot after winning vs Green.  Sad

^  Walker isn’t as good as he was hyped to be imho.  And obv, everybody could see that gets KO’d easy.  The guy ain’t got no chin.  He was KO’d by Corey Anderson who isn’t really known for knocking people out.

Yup, right on the money. He was definitely overhyped in a division that had slim pickings, so it was more of him being in the right place at the right time to get all of that attention than anything else.  We mostly get that in divisions that had a sudden power vacuum when both Jones and Gustafson exited. This has fastly become one of the least interesting divisions. Even HW has more going for it these days.

It actually has become more interesting with 4 prospects on the rise and the belt held by somebody who wouldn’t be champ for long I don’t think. 

I didn't expect this outcome in first round, but it seems hype is real about Jamahal Hill and he is going up on rankings in light-heavyweight division very soon.
I remember how people were excited about Johnny Walker after he come from Dana Whiote Contender Series, than he continued with three wins in UFC, but he is falling down since than.
Maybe next fight for Jamahal Hill could be Magomed Ankalaev, but this will obstacle will be much harder to pass Smiley

Nooo.  It’s too early for those guys to go at it.  Match them up with the likes of Blachowicz, Anthony Smith and Thiago Santos to keep the weight class a little more interesting.  Grin
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February 22, 2022, 08:17:40 AM
Once upon a time people thought Walker could defeat Jon Jones today proves its just not the case. Its heck of a fall for him. Its a one punch knockout. I think his legs will dance on its own if he had gotten up quickly. It'd be more embarassing. Jahamal saved him from that by throwing another hit on the ground. Lost some of my bets but sure made big win thanks to Hill.


That might be a bit of a illogical statement, if you look at the fight experience between Jahamal and Walker. Its obvious to me that this might have been a one-time, lucky win. Jahamal Hill's reaction to the "amazing knockout" on the UFC post show really just goes to show that he himself was quite surprised about the event. He was not really expecting it himself. Although, Hill's 10-1 wins/losses are nothing to scoff at.

Maybe Walker just had a bad day or got unlucky, who knows? These things happen in any sport, especially a close contact one like boxxing. Maybe its just me as a Walker fan who has the wrong notions but I still see it as a lucky fluke.

Lets see how Hill does in his next fight.
In this case, athletes go through different stages that affect them psychologically, sometimes the state of mind can determine if a fighter is fit or not for a fight, according to this it may be that if he is somewhat low in spirit, sad or worried greatly affects the moment of fighting, of course a knockout is not far from the possibility of happening, for now I would expect more fights from him, not all are good days, the truth is that the knockout was impressive.


Oh you are completely and utterly correct in your assumption that the knockout was impressive. You very rarely get to witness a knockout that beautiful. Knockouts themselves are quite rare, even with the most professional boxxers with years of training behind their belt. And Jahamal Hill is far from a boxxing legend with astonishing experience, which in itself, makes the knockout even more impressive.

As far as psychological evaluation goes in boxing? Its really more like a questionaire that nobody bothers to check. Or at least it seems that way to me.

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In this case, athletes go through different stages that affect them psychologically, sometimes the state of mind can determine if a fighter is fit or not for a fight, according to this it may be that if he is somewhat low in spirit, sad or worried greatly affects the moment of fighting, of course a knockout is not far from the possibility of happening, for now I would expect more fights from him, not all are good days, the truth is that the knockout was impressive.


How can Tony Ferguson still fights then? He has been mentally unstable since 2019. Since then he had 4 fights and bean eating hundred of strikes with head. According to his life and training style, there has been something with his head perhaps for 10 years already.

What do you guy think about UFC even that will happen in several days? The card looks weak frankly speaking. Despite Makhachev, other fighters are new to me. Well, I've heard Misha Cirkunov, but he is just average, and according to his record, he will be kicked from UFC in case he looses. Comparing last time Makhachev fought (Petr Yan vs Sandhagen, Teixeira became new champ), this event does not look like an event of his level.
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