Topic: The UFC Info and Prediction Thread - page 383. (Read 97113 times)

I can't believe that Dana White said how most MMA fighters are making more than boxers, and that is simply not true when we know many boxers who earn millions and they don't have any boss above them
Anyway, tune in now and watch UFC 269 Oliveira vs Poirier Live Weigh-in Show for free on youtube:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHuSeTGEc_o

Did you guys see the Mike Perry scuffle that went on at a BKFC event?

https://www.instagram.com/mmauncensoredplus_/p/CXSWaHGjUTv/?utm_medium=copy_link&fbclid=IwAR2KVukKPhUxW4e4_C_lVGJzh_FGUsU5LE17NL3aush4G_FPfPwuELvhz_A

At least he's living up to his reputation this could bring some attention to the promotion. Missed Perry in the UFC, you could always count on him throwing a mental curveball XD In all honesty, I think he might do very well in BKFC. And he's keeping busy with Submission Underground and Triller.

Yeah right, I think Darrick Minner excels in wrestling situations. Seen high time he can dominate when he can take the fight to the ground. Of course, Darrick can go for the takedowns but he has to score them. If he can't make them count then he's in big trouble. He will surely have to close the gap. But if he can improve his standing game then he always can throw some fixes that can work out great for him.

What about Sean O'Malley? The fighter is a star (at least he thinks he is). His fights are always get a lot of attention. But we dont have a single line  of discussion on last pages. He seems very popular, but yet is not in top10 of bantamweight. Almost all of his UFC fights get a reward of the night. But he is fighting some kind of no-names. He got only 1 good opponent from top (Marlon Vera) and did not stand a round against him. He had some trash talk with Garbrandt, maybe trying to get attention or a future fight against a top opponent.

Now O'Malley fights against a good opponent, but not very popular in UFC. Do you think that he will win? Or UFC are building O'Malley career ?

^^ Cat Zingano vs Julianna pena was a good fight. I remember Cat being really aggressive in the first 2 rounds but then she got tired and was in survival mode from round 3. She did slip from a rear-necked choke from Julianna beautifully but in the end, Juliana was just better.
And about that press conference, I really don't know what to say. Nice logic by the way,  . Dana being the wise man, did the right thing lol.

I really want Ryan Hall to redeem himself, that is why I am picking him this time although I am surely having doubts if he can full something and clutch a surprise attack over Minner because just like him Darrick Minner isn't quite good aswell with the standup, pretty much if Ryan Hall wants a higher level on the UFC he would surely need to build some muscle just in case, well if he can pull a good stand-up and just hurt his opponent a little, there would be a surprise factor over it and then he can pull off his Imanari roll by surprise, in times a surprise attack is very effective and if Ryan Hall can pull a splendid attack like that it is very unusual for him doing something like that,


Are they talking about Cat Zingano? on the UFC 200 on the Julianna Peña VS Cat Zingano I think Zingano pretty much is dominating the strength department on the 1st and 2nd round but I guess her gas tank went completely low that she can not make another takedown and just surviving a submission from Peña, but if Zingano has a lot of stamina she might win it, but it was a clear win of Julianna Peña having dominated the other last rounds,

And simply that conversation from Julianna Peña and Amanda Nunes would surely take forever if Dana White would not get on top.

I feel like Ryan Hall subs Minner just from judging how poor Minner was in his last fight.  But the problem is the line...  Ryan Hall at 1.50 is not very enticing but Ryan Hall at 2.60 at Stake kinda is since how else is he going to win vs Minner?

The under 2.5 rounds is now juiced at 1.62.  I should’ve bet it when it was at around 1.75.

It looks like this event is gonna be really good now that I have been poking around Tapology.  I think there’s some plus money unders there that could hit.

Have you watched UFC 269 pre-fight conference? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGO4qWxStBA)

I like the logic behind Nunes and Pena talk Pena ask why Nunes did not fight with her when they last time talked ? Nunes answered - because you have lost your fight and you can not demand a title fight after a loss. Pena - "but you promised". Nunes - "yes, but you have lost". Pena - "but you have promised". Nunes - "I would have fought you if you have won". Pena - "you promised". Women logic (sorry) Glad that Dana stopped that, because they could talk like that for ages

This is often the case for Ryan Hall though. He doesn't really need the strength that other fighters have because he prioritises technique. Though, I have to admit a Ryan Hall who was semi decent at stand up, and someone who had a little more muscle to him would be absolutely scary for anyone in the division. It's a shame really that he didn't seem to fight more in the UFC, and try a different approach now, and again. HIs submissions are well pulled off most of the time, but I just wish he did try to become a more rounded fighter.

Obviously, he's getting on a bit now so its not likely going to happen. Would have also liked to see him fight more, but I do believe quite a few fighters were ducking him.

That means we just got a hand full of women fighters, and just like what you have said there are just 15 women bantamweight that the UFC could scramble to fight Nunes, well if you are in the top 3 and up you will definitely get a title shot, and competing to a title shot, there is not much of a choice for fighters on that top-level there will always be a fighter that could challenge Amanda Nunes, and Amanda Nunes has managed to get her hand on the two belts of the Division, and there are just 4 Divisions for the Women category, and there isn't any choice for Julianna Peña she will need to take on Nunes eventually.


That is expected of the champion, she excels more than the challenger the way a champion should be, well Amanda Nunes sure has the height advantage of 1.73 m while Peña is 1.68 m but they have the same reach of 175.3 cm so height doesn't matter actually Amanda just really hit like a truck than a girl.


Darrick Minner is also a wrestler if you look at his stats he has 26 wins and 12 losses 1 win by knockout 22 wins by submission and 3 by decision, if you can look carefully and Darrick Minner doesn't have a good leg kick, and not good at the stand up so most of the time he will surely always go with the takedowns, but if he can up his game with his striking or boxing then there might be a way for him, but I doubt if he is more familiar with his style now.

Even though Amanda Nunes and Juliana Pena both are of the same age, Amanda Nunes is much more experienced. Amanda Nunes has 21 wins and four losses in her career and Juliana Pena has 11 wins and four losses. Amanda Nunes also has some advantages in terms of height, so she will have a better reach.



I think the best play for Derrick is going to be standing on his ground and not let Ryan hall close the gap between them because then that takedown will come into play for Ryan. So if Derrick can keep denying the takedowns and maybe keep a good distance between them it should be ok.

Yup, I completely get you. The issue is, there just isn't enough talent available. So yeah, there is a huge discrepancy in heavier female divisions, but in contrast to that, the lighter divisions are a bit more packed and tighter. That's the whole Cyborg issue. Where to place a fighter that is built havier but there is no one available to fight her. But that doesn't mean we have to accommodate everyone so...yeah, not an easy issue.

That is why I dont watch women UFC. How can this be a title fight, when the there is so huge difference in odds. This is similar to a professional fighter fighting a guy from local gym according to odds. Champ vs a girl on top3, and such a gap in odds. Unbelievable. Will there even be a competition in this fight? Or why the odds are so high for Pena?

It looks like these top15 of women bantamweight are only 15 fighters in bantamweight rooster. Nunes has beaten everyone and she is beating all of them for the second time. This is the only explanation of odds I see.

For some reason I keep forgetting jeremypwr's UFC Multi Master prediction game.  Please post the thread in here if anybody remembers it so more people could join.  Thanks.

Sakai is the more technical striker and the slightly better fighter but does he really want to be matched up vs Tuivasa right after that KO loss vs Roz?  Sakai should take an easier match up imho.  But yeah...  It's a coin flip.

Have you placed your bet on Charles winning by submission? Odds are pretty high for that. Odds for the fight to go the distance is also tempting at over 3.5. Both fighters can definitely last five rounds but hard to see the match going to the judges score card.

Yes, Amanda Nunes is in a different league, when she won her second belt and that level of power she got from dominating all her opponents there is doubt no need for analysis for this fight I guess, but maybe having a child and giving birth would take effect on her, but I doubt that would happen, let's just wait and see if her opponent Julianna Peña could expose her weakness but I surely having doubt she could take on Nunes with that stats.


You can be right about this and Ryan Hall could get another loss from Darrick Minner, and comparing their body build maybe Minner has power on his takedown defense, and that Imanari Roll is really outdated right now maybe he builds new tricks up his sleeves well, I really don't want my expectation on Ryan Hall to disintegrate that is why I am giving this fight to him and if Darrick Minner could go on with a ground fight I really think Ryan Hall can have his way around, but If Minner can have a tip on Ryan Hall's recent fight against Ilia Topuria and preventing those Imanari Roll, and if Ryan Hall only knows that one technique they he surely underestimating the level of UFC right now.

Unfortunately, at least two women's divisions are utterly dominated by one person who is clearly multiple levels above the competition. Both physically, and skillset which unfortunately makes poor viewing. The women's divisions for this reason are usually more exciting when prospects, and ranked, but not top ranked fighters face each other. Usually, get quite a few good fights then. Although, the championship fights are usually quite lackluster due to the clear mismatch. Rose obviously did well recently though.

I just can't bet against Ryan Hall on the ground.  I can see him losing quite a few fights against a striker, just like his last fight. Quite a few times in his career hes been caught on the head rolling in, and those that can resist the takedown are fairly safe against him. However, when you commit to rolling with him, its almost like its his world even against top level wrestlers, and BJJ practitioners.

Here are my picks for the next event of the UFC.

UFC 269 Picks

Charles Oliveira VS Dustin Poirier

Both guys can sure take out their opponent by Submission, Knock-out Decision that is how well-rounded these two are, and for me, this is a crazy fight to look out for, and it is sure to be entertaining, last fight that Poirier lost to was Khabib Nurmagomedov, and for Oliveira that is Paul Felder on 2017, many guys are saying that Charles Oliveira can wrestle Dustin Poirier and could win with a submission but Dustin Poirier could wrestle aswell, and like I said he could also win via Submission, and this is an interesting fight because I think that Dustin Poirier has good takedown defense and a good stand up and Charles Oliveira is not Khabib Nurmagomenodov, and if you look at the big stars Dustin Poirier have fought with versus the fighters Charles Oliveira have fought with, and right now stake odds for Oliveira is 2.41 while Poirier is 1.63 making Poirier the favorite, but I am confident with Dustin Poirier winning this.

Amanda Nunes VS Julianna Peña

I don't know why the UFC has pushed this fight through I mean I really think this is a missed match, because well I don't really want to say that Julianna Peña is weak, I am saying that Amanda Nunes is just way stronger for her, even though Amanda Nunes is having her baby for the 1st time and she had focused in the family life for quite some time now but for me, Amanda Nunes could still bulldoze her, I may be one-sided with this pick but I surely think she could win this, and stake odds was surely has a huge difference 1.12 for Nunes and 7.40 for Peña, well if you have bet for Peña and she wins then you hit the jackpot but then again it is not profitable to bet for Nunes so I will sit this one out. but my pick would be Amanda Nunes for the win.

Ryan Hall VS Darrick Minner

This is a fight between wrestlers but for me, Darrick Minner can win on Submission and can also lose on submission, and for me, Ryan Hall can shine with this fight because Ryan Hall really wants to fight on the ground so if you Minner wants to fight on the ground Hall can surely oblige with that move and can win this, I think the level of difference between these two with their wrestling is huge and I think Ryan Hall has that advantage, stake odds 1.50 for Hall and 2.75 for Minner, I will go with Ryan Hall with this one.

Charles Oliveira will definitely want to fight on the ground in the match. I think it will take a lot of tries for this, if he gets behind Porier like you said, he'll be done. Dustin Poirier  is aware that his opponent is a Jiu-Jiutsu Master, and he spent a preparation period for it, I wonder what strategy he will follow. If he hits explosive hits at the beginning of the match, I think he will continue and he can TKO. Dustin Poirier deserves that belt and will fight for it.

Yeah, it very much likely does contribute to ill health. However, unfortunately the understanding of the brain is rather lackluster. Though, significant amounts of money is being poured into it thanks to sports recently. For example, other sports like Football are investigating whether headering a football has an impact on brain health, so you can imagine what a career's worth of punches, and kicks is going to give you.

Though, data is rather inconclusive, obviously we do know to some extent that impact on the brain definitely can damage it, and I would say there's some sort of weak evidence that points to volume being worse than impact of the hit, since boxers seem to have considerably more brain injuries or illnesses linked with CTE than fighters in MMA.