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December 12, 2021, 10:47:51 AM
Yup...  I’m with you.  I’d rather see Makhachev matched up vs a grappler than see Gaethje taking a shot for the title at 155.  But yeah...  Great event from top to bottom.  I think sports betting sites should start doing promo games for the UFC.  Have you guys played FortuneJack’s UCL fantasy game?  Maybe something like that but for the UFC.

Well, you know me I will surely love to see an Islam Makachev fight but it will be up to the UFC official if what is waiting for Charles Oliveira but they could surely put an Islam Makachev right now because he is on top 4 of the Lightweight division, but many are talking about the Justin Gaethje fight so who knows or a Beneil Dariush fight but we will surely see if what could they decide, but for me, I really want to see a wrestler against Charles Oliveira.

And Peña getting a historic win vs Nunes...  Wow.  How long has she been with the belt?  If you guys want to watch another historic sporting event, watch F1’s final race of the season in around 20 mins.  Two drivers going for the driver’s championship are literally neck and neck with equal points.  Something like this hasn’t happened since 1974.  Smiley

WOW! that is what I am going to say about that fight, at first Amanda Nunes was dominating the 1st round but as the 2nd round starts something happen, when that punch of Peña landed on Nunes chin or mouth that reaction from Nunes has changed rather she was hurt by it, then that is when the tables have been turned, a lot of credits to Julianna Peña giving us a good fight and never have back down from that exchange of blows, the great thing about this was the odds if you have risk a bet for Julianna Peña, you can surely become rich because of her,

I haven't seen that race but I will surely check that out but thanks for sharing.

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I have a lot of confidence in Dustin Porier on this bet. The first round started very quickly, it was very high level, Dustin Porier even knocked down Charles Oliveira twice. Charles Oliveira's tactic was completely different, he usually hit the body and started to slow down and when he succeeded, he slowed Dustin down. In the 3rd round, he got behind him and put his hand on his neck, making him give up. Even if I lost the bet, I can say that I enjoyed it very much.

It didn't expect that win from Oliveira but that was one strategic win from him, setting up that right punch of his to be countered by Porier and his counter will be a submission is a great strategy and Dustin Poirier doesn't have any solution with that rear-naked choke that he gave, even though I lost the bet that is one impressive move.
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December 12, 2021, 10:47:20 AM
Feeling sad about my 2 lost bets, but regarding it, the fight was really great and exciting and I realized that I am surely not seeing the big picture when making my picks, and analyzing some fighters was pretty much difficult at times,

Charles Oliveira vs Dustin Poirier

At first, I thought that Oliveira is not durable enough to withstand Poirier's punches, but looking at the match Charles Oliveira really have a good chin, he surely receives a lot of punches from Poirier, but seeing that durability from Oliveira I think he has grown, and that near-naked choke was really something you can see the positioning it needs and the preparation to execute something like that, 1st Oliveira needs to throw a right straight at Poirier, and when Dustin Poirier counter with a hook Charles Oliveira set up and gets in position by getting at Poirier's back, that was really great Oliveira really knows that Poirier will do something like that to executes that rear-naked choke, well even though I have lost with my bets I surely enjoy that fight.

I have a lot of confidence in Dustin Porier on this bet. The first round started very quickly, it was very high level, Dustin Porier even knocked down Charles Oliveira twice. Charles Oliveira's tactic was completely different, he usually hit the body and started to slow down and when he succeeded, he slowed Dustin down. In the 3rd round, he got behind him and put his hand on his neck, making him give up. Even if I lost the bet, I can say that I enjoyed it very much.
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December 12, 2021, 10:37:22 AM
The biggest highlights for me is Pena beating Nunes, such a shock, something never expected by almost anyone who wagered on that fight especially since she just came back from childbirth, pretty sure a lot of persons lost money betting on that fight. Charles Oliveira is a very talented and crafty fighter as well, congratulations to him.
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December 12, 2021, 07:40:25 AM
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For all of us that talked shit about the women's division, I will eat my words, Penna is THE top dog right now and boy did she prove it. Actually, I'd say this is a good thing for Nunes, this will drive her forward as she might have become too cozy in her world dominance.

Charlie Olives reigns supreme. I don't know if I am interested in a Gaethje fight, I would rather see him vs Makhachev.

I guess O'Malley is relevant again.

I guess Dom Cruz is not relevant anymore despite this win.

Yup...  I’m with you.  I’d rather see Makhachev matched up vs a grappler than see Gaethje taking a shot for the title at 155.  But yeah...  Great event from top to bottom.  I think sports betting sites should start doing promo games for the UFC.  Have you guys played FortuneJack’s UCL fantasy game?  Maybe something like that but for the UFC.

And Peña getting a historic win vs Nunes...  Wow.  How long has she been with the belt?  If you guys want to watch another historic sporting event, watch F1’s final race of the season in around 20 mins.  Two drivers going for the driver’s championship are literally neck and neck with equal points.  Something like this hasn’t happened since 1974.  Smiley
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December 12, 2021, 07:09:45 AM
Feeling sad about my 2 lost bets, but regarding it, the fight was really great and exciting and I realized that I am surely not seeing the big picture when making my picks, and analyzing some fighters was pretty much difficult at times,

Charles Oliveira vs Dustin Poirier

At first, I thought that Oliveira is not durable enough to withstand Poirier's punches, but looking at the match Charles Oliveira really have a good chin, he surely receives a lot of punches from Poirier, but seeing that durability from Oliveira I think he has grown, and that near-naked choke was really something you can see the positioning it needs and the preparation to execute something like that, 1st Oliveira needs to throw a right straight at Poirier, and when Dustin Poirier counter with a hook Charles Oliveira set up and gets in position by getting at Poirier's back, that was really great Oliveira really knows that Poirier will do something like that to executes that rear-naked choke, well even though I have lost with my bets I surely enjoy that fight.

Amanda Nunes VS Julianna Peña

Julianna Peña seems serious waiting inside the ring and I think she is really ready to fight Nunes, but when the fight starts Amanda Nunes power from that leg kick and right punch have taken down Peña to the ground from that Nunes has caught Peña for a submission I really though that Nunes would surely win, but Peña have struggled and has been save by the bell, and from that time Amanda Nunes seems confident from that 1st round and with a smile she stands up for round 2 but that confidence was really shaken on round 2 because both was really exchanging punches, Julianna Peña really shows heart from that exchanges and never back down and from that Peña takedown Nunes and a rear-naked choke from the ground, that is why congratulations to all that have put their bet on Julianna Peña, that was surely a worth risk you have made,

Ryan Hall VS Darrick Minner

It seems that Ryan Halls back has many circles, he might undergo Cupping therapy to get ready before the fight, Darrick Minner really is having a hard time with all the submission attempts Ryan Hall has given him, well, that is pretty normal fighting against a wrestler as well Ryan Hall really knows what to do in every situation on the ground, but I think he is still the same Ryan Hall but his not charging anymore clumsily with an Imanari Roll, and that is how he won the fight.
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December 12, 2021, 06:39:11 AM
What a night of fighting. One of the best in recent memory, and we've had a lot in the last year or so. The upsets went nuts, Nunes obviously being the biggest one. I would've never predicted that outcome, especially the way it went on the night. Ryan Hall didn't get his submission, but got the win which was a surprise to me as he was definitely close a few times.

Oliveria after taken an absolute beating come back from the dead, to secure a submission victory. What a bloody night, I didn't win anything because of the Ryan Hall decision, but my god what an awesome night for the fans.
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December 12, 2021, 05:01:27 AM
Oliveira vs Poirier as expected was sort of a copy of Khabib vs Poirier fight. Who is next to challenge champ? Gaethje? Their fight will also be a copy of Khabibs fight imho. A guy with skills close to Makhachev could stop Oliveira. Or a puncher that will cought Oliveira in first round

Nunes vs Pena… those who bet on Pena won lots of money… Lucky… For me women UFC still is as women football (soccer) betting. You can bet on a 1.01 odds that one team beat other, while the score is 10:0. Return in half an hour and see 10:11.
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December 12, 2021, 03:03:35 AM
It's always nice seeing a notification when you log in to your bookie that you won something Grin Great job Charles!

~ Actually, I'd say this is a good thing for Nunes, this will drive her forward as she might have become too cozy in her world dominance.
Agreed. I'm not taking anything away from Julianna but Amanda seemed off. It could be the lack of motivation from dominating the previous heavyweights in women's division.

Anyway, I'm looking forward for the rematch and hoping for a better odds for the former champ because I'm betting on her.
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December 12, 2021, 02:15:40 AM
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For all of us that talked shit about the women's division, I will eat my words, Penna is THE top dog right now and boy did she prove it. Actually, I'd say this is a good thing for Nunes, this will drive her forward as she might have become too cozy in her world dominance.

Charlie Olives reigns supreme. I don't know if I am interested in a Gaethje fight, I would rather see him vs Makhachev.

I guess O'Malley is relevant again.

I guess Dom Cruz is not relevant anymore despite this win.
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December 12, 2021, 01:55:20 AM
Bloody hell, we have an upset Julianna Peña defeated Amanda Nunes in the feet and then finished her on the ground. This is the biggest upset in a very long time, luckily i did not make a bet on money line as the fight ending had better odds and i am happy i did that way. I never thought Julianna Peña could rise to the occasion and defeat Amanda Nunes .

Julianna Peña shook up the world  Kiss.


It is crazy that the champion Charles Oliveira was the underdog, he won the fight with his trademark choke and there is nothing Dustin Poirier could do about that and he has the record for the most submissions in history.

And the underdog won. Yep, the champ is the underdog because many believe Dustin Poirier is about to whack him. Turns out they are rooting for the wrong guy.
Bookmaker counted him out vs Poirier but managed to prove them all wrong. Dustin isn't an all-around fighter who can manage on the ground, the gas tank drained after that and the night becomes the underdog domination. The body shots I guess hit Dustin so hard.
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December 12, 2021, 12:05:52 AM
Bloody hell, we have an upset Julianna Peña defeated Amanda Nunes in the feet and then finished her on the ground. This is the biggest upset in a very long time, luckily i did not make a bet on money line as the fight ending had better odds and i am happy i did that way. I never thought Julianna Peña could rise to the occasion and defeat Amanda Nunes .

Julianna Peña shook up the world  Kiss.


It is crazy that the champion Charles Oliveira was the underdog, he won the fight with his trademark choke and there is nothing Dustin Poirier could do about that and he has the record for the most submissions in history.
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December 11, 2021, 06:43:13 PM
I don't know for sure who will win main event Charles Oliveira vs Dustin Poirier, and my betting pick is on Oliveira,
The same here. I already placed bet on Charles to win (no methods) but Justin has a pretty good chance as well. It's one of those 50-50 bets and the odds was the main reason I picked the defending champ.

but we know that winner will fight with Justin Gaethje next, according to Dana White.
I find it surprising that he made an early announcement because I usually hear him say we'll see what happens in his interviews.
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December 11, 2021, 02:47:18 PM
How can you recover from that? But Guida did, and won the fight in the second round. Amazing stuff.
I know this is a cliche, but some people are just built different, and are able to absorb a tremendous amount of damage. You can have all the technique in the world, e.g riding the shots while they come at you, tucking the chin when striking, but certain people just seem to have more of a threshold than others.
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This is definitely true. I think that in fact the threshold of any UFC fighter is much higher than that of an average martial artist, let alone some street fighting goon, and yet when we watch two great fighters on the ring it might look like one of them has a low threshold, like he's weaker than a thug from your neighborhood. That's an illusion, of course.

I mean, of course, when you get hit, slammed, and choked on a daily basis, you get used to it. I did, and I only did it recreationally. I always tell the story of a friend of mine that had a chance to do a few grappling rounds with Frankie Edgar (and watch him train) and he said that the level of that man's threshold for physical exertion is through the roof. And that's all from years and years of doing it. The same goes for damage absorption.
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December 11, 2021, 01:54:30 PM
I don't know for sure who will win main event Charles Oliveira vs Dustin Poirier, and my betting pick is on Oliveira, but we know that winner will fight with Justin Gaethje next, according to Dana White.
My main picks for this UFC event: Oliveira win by submission, Amanda Nunes win by KO, and Sean O'Malley win.
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December 11, 2021, 10:03:33 AM
What about Sean O'Malley? The fighter is a star (at least he thinks he is). His fights are always get a lot of attention. But we dont have a single line  of discussion on last pages. He seems very popular, but yet is not in top10 of bantamweight. Almost all of his UFC fights get a reward of the night. But he is fighting some kind of no-names. He got only 1 good opponent from top (Marlon Vera) and did not stand a round against him. He had some trash talk with Garbrandt, maybe trying to get attention or a future fight against a top opponent.

Now O'Malley fights against a good opponent, but not very popular in UFC. Do you think that he will win? Or UFC are building O'Malley career ?

He’s a hyped prospect.  When he was a given a real opponent in Chito Vera, he lost.  I’d stay away from betting him straight or include him in my parlays at 1.32.  I think it’s better to go for the under 2.5 rounds at 1.73.  Paiva at 3.80 could be worth a small sprinkle too.  You just never know with that guy.

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December 11, 2021, 06:22:03 AM
How can you recover from that? But Guida did, and won the fight in the second round. Amazing stuff.
I know this is a cliche, but some people are just built different, and are able to absorb a tremendous amount of damage. You can have all the technique in the world, e.g riding the shots while they come at you, tucking the chin when striking, but certain people just seem to have more of a threshold than others.
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This is definitely true. I think that in fact the threshold of any UFC fighter is much higher than that of an average martial artist, let alone some street fighting goon, and yet when we watch two great fighters on the ring it might look like one of them has a low threshold, like he's weaker than a thug from your neighborhood. That's an illusion, of course.
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December 11, 2021, 06:20:46 AM
I can't believe that Dana White said how most MMA fighters are making more than boxers, and that is simply not true when we know many boxers who earn millions and they don't have any boss above them Smiley
Anyway, tune in now and watch UFC 269 Oliveira vs Poirier Live Weigh-in Show for free on youtube:
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This certainly is not be true on the higher level, however, on the lower level much of the UFC fighters make more money than boxers. How much are the salaries of the fighters in UFC 269’s preliminary card and how much were the salaries of the boxers in Crawford vs. Porter’s preliminary card?

However, I agree that UFC fighters should be paid more. Dana does not want to do this because he is scaling the business. The UFC is not as big as the sport of boxing. I reckon he might begin increasing fighter salary if the UFC begins to have the ratings similar to the NBA or the NFL.

One thing that UFC fighters are complaining about is that they can't shift to other promotions because of the contract they have to UFC. If possible they can also go to Bellator, ONE Championship and etc. They lose the opportunity to showcase thier talents and fees because of it. Afaik there are fighters who organized to file complain to UFC because of this.

The old UFC fighters still struggle to make money and we could see them on Bellator like the legendary Fedor Emelianenko. If this guy was on boxing, he could have been richer than Connor.
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December 10, 2021, 10:48:02 PM
I can't believe that Dana White said how most MMA fighters are making more than boxers, and that is simply not true when we know many boxers who earn millions and they don't have any boss above them Smiley
Anyway, tune in now and watch UFC 269 Oliveira vs Poirier Live Weigh-in Show for free on youtube:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHuSeTGEc_o

This certainly is not be true on the higher level, however, on the lower level much of the UFC fighters make more money than boxers. How much are the salaries of the fighters in UFC 269’s preliminary card and how much were the salaries of the boxers in Crawford vs. Porter’s preliminary card?

However, I agree that UFC fighters should be paid more. Dana does not want to do this because he is scaling the business. The UFC is not as big as the sport of boxing. I reckon he might begin increasing fighter salary if the UFC begins to have the ratings similar to the NBA or the NFL.
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December 10, 2021, 06:02:45 PM

^^ Cat Zingano vs Julianna pena was a good fight. I remember Cat being really aggressive in the first 2 rounds but then she got tired and was in survival mode from round 3. She did slip from a rear-necked choke from Julianna beautifully but in the end, Juliana was just better.
And about that press conference, I really don't know what to say. Nice logic by the way,  Grin . Dana being the wise man, did the right thing lol.

Cat Zingano beat Amanda Nunes back on September 27, 2014, were Zingano won by TKO and I think this is what is Julianna Peña was referring to, that Nunes promises a fight but I think it will all come to the UFC officials for their fight to be officials, and Dana White being himself that night was pretty much just logical, and because of this I am excited what may happen to the fight, my pick was Amanda Nunes and I surely didn't bet any because of the obvious large odds on Nunes, but this could be a big upset for Amanda Nunes if the underdog Julianna Peña win this.


Yeah right, I think Darrick Minner excels in wrestling situations. Seen high time he can dominate when he can take the fight to the ground. Of course, Darrick can go for the takedowns but he has to score them. If he can't make them count then he's in big trouble. He will surely have to close the gap. But if he can improve his standing game then he always can throw some fixes that can work out great for him.

I think Minner got power, but let's say Ryan Hall got some technique up his sleeves this should be an interesting fight, I say my pick was Ryan Hall because he surely has some advantage when it comes to wrestling and when the fight would go to the ground that is where the fight could become juicy,

I think that he leads to get the feel of it at first. Maybe throw some gaps, feel each other a little. You will surely maintain a distance with your opponent. I am talking about Ryan Hall by the way. His kicking is great and he will surely utilize his leg kicks. And If didn't even talk about Imanari roll. It will be hard to stand-up against him.
 Placed my bet on Hall, hope will win tomorrow...

Ryan Hall might have some leg kick but there is no power to them, I think this is just for distraction and to pressure his opponent, otherwise, he will always go for a takedown and take the fight on the ground where I think he excels a lot, well I may be wrong because Minner could have the strength he needed even though Hall has an advantage with his wrestling if Minner could outpower him on the ground then it is a win for Darrick Minner, but I still have my hopes on Ryan Hall,
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December 10, 2021, 02:53:21 PM
I think that he leads to get the feel of it at first. Maybe throw some gaps, feel each other a little. You will surely maintain a distance with your opponent. I am talking about Ryan Hall by the way. His kicking is great and he will surely utilize his leg kicks. And If didn't even talk about Imanari roll. It will be hard to stand-up against him.
 Placed my bet on Hall, hope will win tomorrow...
I'd say its highly unlikely if Ryan Hall is going to win, he won't be knocking his opponent out, and its unlikely to go to a decision. If its a BJJ match, then Ryan Hall likely has him submitted within a round or two, but probably the first round.

I've put a bet on for Ryan Hall by finish (mainly because I couldn't get just a submission bet) for 2.20 if I recall correctly. If he is to win, which is definitely a doubt due to his last outing, its got to be by submission, surely?

I'm probably biased because I quite like Ryan Hall, but he's my favourite of the night despite having some doubts because of his last outing. I actually think Sean O'Malley is going to run into an opponent that he won't be able to get out of there easy, and could potentially struggle. Although, I'm not quite sold on O'Malley yet, obviously a great talent, but flashy stuff doesn't always mean wins.

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