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Quote from: TheNineClub on June 22, 2021, 06:41:12 AM

It will be interesting to see in what aspect did Volkov improve because Gane definitely has improved so this matchup actually made perfect sense. But at the end of the day, I still think Volkov is a major threat in the division and this could be his make or brake at this point.

I don't really understand this low odds on Ciryl Gane to win against Alexander Volkov, because they both have equally good skills, similar reach and striking, Gane has better takedown defense and Volkov have better takedown accuracy.
Maybe they are thinking that 8-0 score is giving some advantage to Gane, but I would never underestimate Volkov who is coming from two wins against Overeem and Walt Harris.

UFC 263 salaries got released, Israel Adesanya received $500,000 and Marvin Vettori $350,000, Nate Diaz $250,000, Leon Edwards $220,000, Brandon Moreno earned $200,000 and Deiveson Figueiredo $210,000.
This is really nothing compared to boxing and with earnings of Connor McGregor, but it is what it is.

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Quote from: TheNineClub on June 21, 2021, 07:08:38 AM

Ah, I remember the time when in every conversation I would mix up Volkov and Volkanovski XD It would confuse the shit outta me and everyone else. Volkov seems to me neither here nor there in the sense that he is missing just that edge to prevail on the top. A few years back I saw him as a champ...now, not sure.

Haha. If you put those two together it would be more funny.

Volkov does not look as a champ. He is simply big and tall. He reminds me of a Stefan Struve (Volkov is just 10cm lower). Stefan Struve 2.0
He was also a heavyweight. And like Volkov, never was a champ and never had a title shot. Same will be with Volkov. Volkov is, I don't know to say it right, just a regular guy, heavyweight. Average. UFC management will never make him a champ. They cant sell him for good money. That is Gane will win, face Ngannou and will fly away into KO Cheesy

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^ I think Volkov has reached or almost reached his ceiling. Let’s see if Gane’s improvement is enough to beat Volkov. My lean on Volkov is more about the value of his line being plus money at 2.50. I think it should be closer.

Quote from: notblox1 on June 21, 2021, 04:46:33 PM

Giga Chikadze will probably replace Max Holloway who canceled his fight against Yair Rodriguez scheduled for July 17 event at the UFC Apex in Las Vegas.

Interesting turn of events in Light-Heavyweight category is that Jan Blachowicz thinks that Jiri Prochazka should first fight against Aleksandar Rakic before getting a title shot, and I am very interested to see this fight.
Here is his full interview with James Lynch published few days ago:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5Y3Myr7Xwg&t=0s

Oooo interesting. But kinda a huge step up in competition for Chikadze. We’ll see if he’s up to it. If it’s a close 5 rounder then you know Chikadze should be top 5.

And totally agree with Blachowicz for Prochazka’s own good. Proch get hits a lot. He should work on that our he gets slept by Blachowicz.

Edit: Some vids.. This free vid of Gane doesn’t really show what he is currently as a fighter. Mayes is somewhat of a UFC noob on this vid.. They both were. I think you guys should watch the replays at MMA Core for his match ups vs JDS and Roz if they still have them

UFC Free Fight: Volkov vs Overeem
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3VDUCWbhr0

UFC Free Fight: Gane vs Mayes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFMbgcLL-7k

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Quote from: tokeweed on June 21, 2021, 11:51:27 AM

^ I’m not entirely convinced with Gane yet and Volkov is a slight step up in competition but Volkov is the underdog at 2.50? Looks good to me.. I think the line should be closer imho. And sure the technical skill advantage goes to Gane but Volkov has the grit.

It will be interesting to see in what aspect did Volkov improve because Gane definitely has improved so this matchup actually made perfect sense. But at the end of the day, I still think Volkov is a major threat in the division and this could be his make or brake at this point.

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Giga Chikadze will probably replace Max Holloway who canceled his fight against Yair Rodriguez scheduled for July 17 event at the UFC Apex in Las Vegas.

Interesting turn of events in Light-Heavyweight category is that Jan Blachowicz thinks that Jiri Prochazka should first fight against Aleksandar Rakic before getting a title shot, and I am very interested to see this fight.
Here is his full interview with James Lynch published few days ago:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5Y3Myr7Xwg&t=0s

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^ I’m not entirely convinced with Gane yet and Volkov is a slight step up in competition but Volkov is the underdog at 2.50? Looks good to me.. I think the line should be closer imho. And sure the technical skill advantage goes to Gane but Volkov has the grit.

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Quote from: tokeweed on June 21, 2021, 07:36:05 AM

Value lines could be Volkov, OSP, maaaybe Jai Herbert just cos Moicano is on the decline and that chin is shot after Fiziev. And Charles Rosa and Rakhmomov should win. They’re kinda chalky but parlaying them should give you decent odds close to plus money.

I am not kind of familiar with Volkov and seeing just his highlights kind of spark that Gane can be the one dominating the fight but I am still deciding on my pick, and because I am too bias with Cyril Gane,

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Looks can be deceiving if you are messing with the wrong person things can get real bad and there are many videos and pics of people in the social media space who got smoked by beautiful ladies Cheesy

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Yeah! I might be done for after that sparring match with her, but it will be worth it to try, and maybe she will give me that rear-naked choke like what she did Tatiana Suarez,

It seems her record is not bad, but she had many wins through a Decision, but 13 wins and 3 loss is not bad on the women's division.

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Quote from: YuginKadoya on June 21, 2021, 04:57:22 AM

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Stake.com had made a great decision in getting her Israel Adesanya, and Chito Vera as a collaboration with UFC and actually after seeing her photos she can surely be a muse for UFC and stake.com, and would surely love to have a sparring match with her if you know what I mean! Roll Eyes

Looks can be deceiving if you are messing with the wrong person things can get real bad and there are many videos and pics of people in the social media space who got smoked by beautiful ladies Cheesy

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Quote from: TheNineClub on June 21, 2021, 07:08:38 AM

Ah, I remember the time when in every conversation I would mix up Volkov and Volkanovski XD It would confuse the shit outta me and everyone else. Volkov seems to me neither here nor there in the sense that he is missing just that edge to prevail on the top. A few years back I saw him as a champ...now, not sure.

Alexander Volkov is a technical striker and the fight i feel sad for him was the Derrick Lewis fight where he was winning the fight easily and with seconds left in the clock he was knocked out by Derrick Lewis. He is just 32 years old and a couple of wins he might be a title challenger.

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Quote from: YuginKadoya on June 20, 2021, 05:02:32 AM

Ok! now that the boring fights were settle I think that this next one will be quite interesting in my opinion,

UFC Fight Night: Gane vs. Volkov

Date: June 26, 2021
Place: UFC Apex facility in Enterprise, Nevada

Main Card

Heavyweight   Ciryl Gane   VS   Alexander Volkov
Heavyweight   Tanner Boser   VS   Ovince St. Preux
Light Heavyweight   Kennedy Nzechukwu   VS   Danilo Marques
Featherweight   Andre Fili   VS   Daniel Pineda
Lightweight   Renato Moicano   VS   Jai Herbert

Preliminary Card

Bantamweight   Raoni Barcelos   VS   Timur Valiev
Welterweight   Shavkat Rakhmonov   VS   Michel Prazeres
Welterweight   Tim Means   VS   Nicolas Dalby
Light Heavyweight   Marcin Prachnio   VS   Isaac Villanueva
Women’s Bantamweight   Julia Avila   VS   Julija Stoliarenko
Featherweight   Charles Rosa   VS   Justin Jaynes
Lightweight   Yancy Medeiros   VS   Damir Hadžović

Information was from wikipedia

Value lines could be Volkov, OSP, maaaybe Jai Herbert just cos Moicano is on the decline and that chin is shot after Fiziev. And Charles Rosa and Rakhmomov should win. They’re kinda chalky but parlaying them should give you decent odds close to plus money.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on June 21, 2021, 03:41:21 AM

Quote from: YuginKadoya on June 20, 2021, 06:41:55 AM

I really like Gane and I am not familiar with Volkov, but it seems that Alexander Volkov is tough in his durability, and seems to have a lot of fight during his Bellator days after watching some of his highlights he has great takedown defense that Ciryl Gane might have some problem with, but knowing Gane he is an all-rounder that can create an opening but I will take further information and will pick on who's I'm going to bet,

Volkov is good. He is a natural heavyweight. He just need to eat, trains, sleep, repeat. He has already beaten all the old heavyweight tops. But he has problems with fresh and new heavyweight. That means he has experience to put against experienced heavyweights, but has problems with those who can explode with series of strikes. And Gane is one of these heavyweights. I think that Gane will win. Perhaps in a second round or second half of first round. He will explode with series of strikes, Volkov would block and evade most of them, and one punch will put an end in this fight. It will be a KO. It wont be a knockdown and ground and pound finisher.

Ah, I remember the time when in every conversation I would mix up Volkov and Volkanovski XD It would confuse the shit outta me and everyone else. Volkov seems to me neither here nor there in the sense that he is missing just that edge to prevail on the top. A few years back I saw him as a champ...now, not sure.

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on June 21, 2021, 02:26:11 AM

stake.com has made a very good decision to partner with Alexa Grasso for her pleasing personality, I reckon hehehe. She is also born in Mexico similar to Brandon Moreno.

Stake.com had made a great decision in getting her Israel Adesanya, and Chito Vera as a collaboration with UFC and actually after seeing her photos she can surely be a muse for UFC and stake.com, and would surely love to have a sparring match with her if you know what I mean! Roll Eyes

Quote from: TopTort777 on June 21, 2021, 03:41:21 AM

Volkov is good. He is a natural heavyweight. He just need to eat, trains, sleep, repeat. He has already beaten all the old heavyweight tops. But he has problems with fresh and new heavyweight. That means he has experience to put against experienced heavyweights, but has problems with those who can explode with series of strikes. And Gane is one of these heavyweights. I think that Gane will win. Perhaps in a second round or second half of first round. He will explode with series of strikes, Volkov would block and evade most of them, and one punch will put an end in this fight. It will be a KO. It wont be a knockdown and ground and pound finisher.

After Seeing Volkov's highlight I feel the same as well I don't feel Cyril Gane is a heavyweight he doesn't move like one, for a division of heavyweights I think that he got the speed and the power to get to the top of the heavyweight division, and Alexander Volkov might be a heavyweight but Cyril Gane, in my opinion, is a mixed breed.

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Quote from: YuginKadoya on June 20, 2021, 06:41:55 AM

I really like Gane and I am not familiar with Volkov, but it seems that Alexander Volkov is tough in his durability, and seems to have a lot of fight during his Bellator days after watching some of his highlights he has great takedown defense that Ciryl Gane might have some problem with, but knowing Gane he is an all-rounder that can create an opening but I will take further information and will pick on who's I'm going to bet,

Volkov is good. He is a natural heavyweight. He just need to eat, trains, sleep, repeat. He has already beaten all the old heavyweight tops. But he has problems with fresh and new heavyweight. That means he has experience to put against experienced heavyweights, but has problems with those who can explode with series of strikes. And Gane is one of these heavyweights. I think that Gane will win. Perhaps in a second round or second half of first round. He will explode with series of strikes, Volkov would block and evade most of them, and one punch will put an end in this fight. It will be a KO. It wont be a knockdown and ground and pound finisher.

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stake.com has made a very good decision to partner with Alexa Grasso for her pleasing personality, I reckon hehehe. She is also born in Mexico similar to Brandon Moreno.

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Quote from: ene1980 on June 20, 2021, 02:31:00 PM

I am not aware of most of the opponents, i have seen the fights of Alexander Volkov, Ovince St. Preux, Andre Fili, Renato Moicano and Tim Means but i do not know anything about the rest of the fighters nor their opponents. Even in the last event i did not place a bet as i was not sure about how the fights will go and that is the situation in this fight card.

Looks like the next fight card which might interest me is UFC 264 next month Cry

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Wow! you actually know quite a lot, I only know 2 fighters from this event and that is Cyril Gane and Tanner Boser, and also just heard about Ovince Saint Preux but never really know quite a lot about him, I will eventually get information about them and will get picked for a bet, but maybe will be betting on just two the main event and the co-main event.

Quote from: notblox1 on June 20, 2021, 02:42:16 PM

It was amazing fight to watch Marlon Vera vs Davey Grant, and I like it even more when I win a bet bonus for Vera winning the fight and getting bonus for performance of the night.
Like I predicted, Korean Zombie won the fight, he had a big advantage with his takedowns and Dan Ige couldn't really compete with him there, but he was very good in stand up.
Overall it was very interesting event to watch, and I am already preparing for next heavyweight fight Gane vs Volkov.

I think stake.com is sponsoring fighters from UFC and as a partnership with UFC maybe there will be a bonus if you have bet for these fighters and win and the list goes, Israel Adesanya, Alexa Grasso, Marlon Vera, and Francis Ngannou well congrats on winning the bet bonus by stake and I should say, Marlon Vera is doing quite well after seeing his potential by knocking out Sean O'Malley

I should say the Korean Zombie has done quite impressive in getting Dan Ige we could see the domination of Chan Jung Sung from start to finish.

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It was amazing fight to watch Marlon Vera vs Davey Grant, and I like it even more when I win a bet bonus for Vera winning the fight and getting bonus for performance of the night.
Like I predicted, Korean Zombie won the fight, he had a big advantage with his takedowns and Dan Ige couldn't really compete with him there, but he was very good in stand up.
Overall it was very interesting event to watch, and I am already preparing for next heavyweight fight Gane vs Volkov.

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Quote from: YuginKadoya on June 20, 2021, 05:02:32 AM

Ok! now that the boring fights were settle I think that this next one will be quite interesting in my opinion,

I am not aware of most of the opponents, i have seen the fights of Alexander Volkov, Ovince St. Preux, Andre Fili, Renato Moicano and Tim Means but i do not know anything about the rest of the fighters nor their opponents. Even in the last event i did not place a bet as i was not sure about how the fights will go and that is the situation in this fight card.

Looks like the next fight card which might interest me is UFC 264 next month Cry

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Quote from: TopTort777 on June 20, 2021, 06:00:16 AM

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Heavyweight Ciryl Gane VS Alexander Volkov

Top3 vs Top5. That is going to be interesting. Undefeated striker Gane vs dangerous Volkov. There is definitely going to be a KO/TKO in this fight and I think that victoria is going to be on Gane side this time. I think the winner of this fight is going to be a first contender to face (I mean to lose) to Ngannou Cheesy

I really like Gane and I am not familiar with Volkov, but it seems that Alexander Volkov is tough in his durability, and seems to have a lot of fight during his Bellator days after watching some of his highlights he has great takedown defense that Ciryl Gane might have some problem with, but knowing Gane he is an all-rounder that can create an opening but I will take further information and will pick on who's I'm going to bet,

Another Fighter that I like in this event is Tanner Boser I don't have any idea about his opponent yet and will get further information regarding my pick.

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Quote from: YuginKadoya on June 20, 2021, 05:02:32 AM

Heavyweight Ciryl Gane VS Alexander Volkov

Top3 vs Top5. That is going to be interesting. Undefeated striker Gane vs dangerous Volkov. There is definitely going to be a KO/TKO in this fight and I think that victoria is going to be on Gane side this time. I think the winner of this fight is going to be a first contender to face (I mean to lose) to Ngannou Cheesy

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Ok! now that the boring fights were settle I think that this next one will be quite interesting in my opinion,

UFC Fight Night: Gane vs. Volkov

Date: June 26, 2021
Place: UFC Apex facility in Enterprise, Nevada

Main Card

Heavyweight   Ciryl Gane   VS   Alexander Volkov
Heavyweight   Tanner Boser   VS   Ovince St. Preux
Light Heavyweight   Kennedy Nzechukwu   VS   Danilo Marques
Featherweight   Andre Fili   VS   Daniel Pineda
Lightweight   Renato Moicano   VS   Jai Herbert

Preliminary Card

Bantamweight   Raoni Barcelos   VS   Timur Valiev
Welterweight   Shavkat Rakhmonov   VS   Michel Prazeres
Welterweight   Tim Means   VS   Nicolas Dalby
Light Heavyweight   Marcin Prachnio   VS   Isaac Villanueva
Women’s Bantamweight   Julia Avila   VS   Julija Stoliarenko
Featherweight   Charles Rosa   VS   Justin Jaynes
Lightweight   Yancy Medeiros   VS   Damir Hadžović

Information was from wikipedia

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I always liked Matt Brown for his elbows. He is already 40, but still and might be soon fired from UFC; his bad record only proves that (won 3 out of 10 last fights). Glad he won. Limas tactics was probably to kill Matts front leg (by the end of first round it was seen that Matt feels discomfort while walking), but in the second one punch ended everything.

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