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So..  Yeah.  I guess I’m looking like a total idiot right now.  Rofl.  What a finish by Sandhagen.  And things just got pretty interesting at 135.  We got Petr Yan, Sterlng, Sandhagen and the return of Dillashaw. 

That Dillashaw return is a hard sell with what went on with him imho.

Kamaru Usman and Gilbert Burns were team mates and they know each other very well and it will be the biggest test for kamaru Usman and his fighting style as Gilbert Burns have knockout power as well as the ground game and i think when two great ground fighters fight they usually stall and fight on the feet. I am going with Gilbert Burns in this match up as i feel he has a legitimate chance to upset the division.

UFC 258: Usman vs. Burns



Date: FEBRUARY 14
Main Card: SUN, FEB 14 / 5:00 AM EET
Prelims: SUN, FEB 14 / 3:00 AM EET
Early prelims: SUN, FEB 14 / 3:00 AM EET
Venue: UFC APEX, Las Vegas, Nevada, United States

Main card (ESPN)
Welterweight: Kamaru Usman vs. Gilbert Burns
Women's Flyweight: Maycee Barber vs. Alexa Grasso            
Middleweight: Kelvin Gastelum vs. Ian Heinisch            
Bantamweight: Pedro Munhoz vs. Jimmie Rivera            
Middleweight: Maki Pitolo vs. Julian Marquez   

Preliminary card (ESPN2 / ESPN+)
Lightweight: Bobby Green vs. Jim Miller            
Middleweight: Rodolfo Viera vs. Anthony Hernandez            
Welterweight: Belal Muhammad vs. Dhiego Lima            
Women's Strawweight: Polyana Viana vs. Mallory Martin

Early preliminary card (ESPN+ / UFC Fight Pass)
Featherweight: Ricky Simon vs. Brian Kelleher            
Welterweight: Gabriel Green vs. Philip Rowe            
Women's Flyweight: Gillian Robertson vs. Miranda Maverick   

source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UFC_258

Finally Usman is going to be tested by someone able to beat him!

When I hear that I feel goosebumps down my spine like I was the one getting hit by it, Chills! This is really worst when the height advantage was surely used in the fight and Cory Sandhagen utilized that advantage, he would know that if the fight would go to numerous rounds he would have a hard time with Edgar,

And Another thing Alexander Volkov did a great job with Overeem, He surely destroyed Overeem in round 2, Although I really like Alistair Overeem back then right now I think that he seems slower than before, and I don't know about everybody here Alistair Overeem seems to develop belly plop

Well there's certainly many more 'better' fights for him but they're also the tougher ones which are potentially not great for his brand right now if he can't win them. If Conor just keeps getting beat by every other fighter he's gonna quickly go down the rankings and become a has-been and it will end up with him being the one looking for fights rather than people desperately trying to fight him. I think he knows he can beat Poirier fairly easy so he's likely banking on that. He'll be better prepared next time and know what to expect so I think Poirier will have to mix it up as I doubt he'll win by the kicks again. I don't know what Conor will do if he loses this trilogy fight though.


Any fight involving McGregor will make big bank. His fights are all in the top 3 of all time including the second Poirier bout:



I'm sure the trilogy fight would equal or maybe even beat the second one, or for sure be top 5. A trilogy fight against Diaz would probably do even better as would a rematch against Khabib which would almost certainly take the first spot again.


All whisky taste like fire ass water to me. Most people who drink it probably don't like it or could tell much of a difference between other brands.


He doesn't deserve it. You can't get a title shot on the back of a loss. Khabib likely won't fight him anyway as he also feels like he doesn't deserve it. I think Conor is going to have to have a few spectacular results under his belt before we see any potential Khabib rematch and that's assuming he isn't done for good.


'Preparing' might be a loose term. I'm sure he's keeping fit but I don't think that fight will happen anytime soon and Conor's probably just using that potentially happening as a bargaining chip with the UFC to get him the fights he wants or he'll concentrate on boxing.




I didn't watch the card but watched the highlights of this one. I still think Masvidal's knee was the best knee knockout ever. If someone is going to beat Khabib they need to catch him with a knee when he catapults at them to take them down which he always does. If you're fast enough and you land a knee I think that would be lights out for most people. It's easier said than done though especially at the scorpion pace Khabib throws himself at people though.

I was expecting so much more from Overeem vs Volkov. Volkov looked dominant throughout the fight. I think its the end of the road for Overeem and he'd probably retire now. Completely outclassed there. Overeem is 40 and it only gets harder to reach peak physical shape as you get older. Next week's fight(Kamaru Usman vs. Gilbert Burns)  is gonna be good too but I cant wait for March 6th for Israel Adesanya vs. Jan Blachowicz, Nunez vs Anderson and Petr Yan vs. Aljamain Sterling . Such a filled card and all title fights.

Crazy, that knee hit Frankie Edgar's jaw. Damn how it feels if I'm there, it hurts so much. I thought this match would be longer and balanced, but I was wrong Cory Sandhagen made the match so fast. I read this is the 2nd fastest knockout after a five second knockout match between Ben Askren's vs Jorge Masvidal. This is good for Cory Sandhagen as he deserves to be the first challenger to the winning match between Petr Yan and Aljamain Sterling which takes place next month.

Source: https://sports.yahoo.com/cory-sandhagen-viciously-k-os-frankie-edgar-with-flying-knee-in-28-seconds-033739372.html

Ben Askren will welcome Frankie Edgar to the group  .

The flying knee has become a deadly weapon to counter wrestlers and i would like to see Frankie Edgar retire from the sport and the same goes to Alistair Overeem as he has suffered some of the brutal knockouts throughout his career and there is no point for him to continue fighting. Michael Johnson is another fighter who should stop fighting as he is on a loosing streak and Clay Guida is fighting for a very long time and he needs a proper retirement fight as well.

Take a bow Sandhagen! Hope Edgar recovers well of course. It was a monster of a knee, and although I think it was a spur of the moment thing, it couldn't have been better timed. Also, the angle he got by moving away from him while unleashing that monster of a knee caught him perfectly on the chin.

As for the predictions it was definitely a mixed bag as expected. I'm gutted for Joselyne, as I think her stand up game is fantastic as evidenced by her opponents face. However, she may have been found out on the ground. She had one nice escape, but largely accepted her position on bottom throughout the fight. She's a huge prospect, but she's going to need to work on her wrestling a little more, or at least her takedown defense. Her fight before this, she actually handled herself well on the ground, but she was still quite easily taken down. So, I think it might just be takedown defense she needs to work on, when clearly she's the weaker wrestler, because her stand up is probably one of the best in the division.

Laying former champion Frankie Edgar out with a jumping knee after only 28 seconds is simply crazy, this Cory Sandhagen is a beast of his own kind! I am starting passionate about UFC after having only listened my friends' stories but jeez, this sport is truly great.
I was expecting a big fight but Cory smashed the former champion with what looked like a precise strategy. Will follow more from him!

I just finished watching the highlights and dang I lost count on how many times I replayed that part! That was all planned. His team knew exactly that Frankie would pressure him and close the distance. The height advantage made it easier to execute that move.

The sound when that knee hit that jaw  

edit: I wonder what Ben was thinking when he saw that fight 

all fights are pretty intense and the unexpected ones had shown us great progress with the techniques and arsenal we could surely expect good quality fights it seems that all competitors are really giving their all in really preparing in every fight they face, and right now we could see an instant win like this in the future for veterans that are hard to knockdowns well, that flying knee could be a failure if he didn't execute it perfectly and Edgar really did not expect that to happen I may have lost the bet but still that was a pretty good fight in my opinion.

I did not expect a flying knee finish in the Frankie Edgar fight and Cory Sandhagen timed it really well, Alexander Volkov won the fight as expected but i did not expect an early finish. Another fighter that surprised me is Clay Guida as he completely dominated Michael Johnson.




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It was a shocking ending, Cory Sandhagen did a fast KO to a vanguard that is Frankie Edgar, That Flying was very effective indeed mostly for a shorter opponent, in my opinion, Sandhagen was calculating Frankie Edgar's movement before he tries and connects that flying knee otherwise it will not become effective to get Frankie Edgar out cold on the canvas. I sure thought it was going to be a bloody fight but Sandhagen knowing Edgar to be a tough one to crack resolves in taking out Edgar faster.

If this match will happen, it's bet odds will surely bigger for Conor since he doesn't manage to win for a while. I also hope that Conor is the one who can win this since I am always betting for him even if I know that he is in disadvantage. He has a lot of disadvantage since Proirer is much stronger when it comes to Grappling and Submissions since we know that Proirer is a strong jujitsu player and the only way for Conor to win is to focus on striking and defending against those two aspects. Now Proirer has a standing of 27-6 while conor has 22-5 and Proirer is the one who managed to add 1 defeat to Conor on round 2 exactly at 2 minutes and 32 seconds. Even if we say that Conor has a better striking power, Proirer managed to knockout Conor with just 1 knockdown.

Right ....my prediction is some will win tonight, and some will lose. I'm kidding obviously, but I really didn't know who to go with on a few of these fights. I've seen some discussion on this being a weak card, but these are usually the ones with the action packed in, and good pacing. Also, we've got some huge fight nights coming up in the next few months.

Here's my picks:

Jerome Rivera
Youssef Zalal (Points)
Molly McCann (Points)
Joselyne Edwards (Points)
Devonte Smith (Points)
Mike Rodriguez (Points)
Clay Guida v Michael Johnson (To go the distance)
Diego Ferreira
Alexandre Pantoja
Cory Sandhagen (Points)
Alexander Volkov (TKO)

I've been impressed by Joselyne Edwards, so have picked her purely through being entertained on a few of her fights. I've also picked Cory Sandhagen because I like the way he fights, but I'll admit that his opponent might be better than I'm giving credit for. Those are really the two that I would say are bias picks from me.

Of course, if Conor allows him to spend a couple of rounds... Now, globally, everything will come down to a match between Conor and Khabib. I am sure that Conor will be able to win, but this is all done for a lot of money, and for everyone, in the upcoming rematch that everything is heading towards.

I said before that my pick for winner of main even is Alistair Overeem so I won't repeat that, but I will add that he will use grappling skills with wrestling and he will bring fight to the ground to win some rounds, but he will also use his striking skills.

Don't miss fight Alexandre Pantoja vs Manel Kape and Diego Ferreira vs. Beneil Dariush.
This is Kape first fight in UFC and he is coming from famous Japanese Rizin MMA organization and he is coming after big break and no official fights since 2019.

This are my picks:

Alistair Overeem (decision)
Cody Sandhagen
Michael Johnson
Alexandre Pantoja
Cody Stamann
Beneil Dariush

This time UFC prelims and main card starts a bit earlier so please check out countdown for correct time:
https://www.countdownmma.com/


https://twitter.com/ufc/status/1358099563941302272

After weigh ins I'm changing my thought about the result of the fight between Overeem and Volkov  Now I cant get rid of the picture in my head how Volkov TKO Overeem. I think people were right here, saying Overeem is old now. More experienced - yes, but old and got too many strikes to the head.

notblox1 says "Alistair Overeem wants to have shot for the title so he can retire after that" - Overeem is too old to be champ. We all remember that Randy Couture became champion at the age of 43, but at his tome, other athletes were different.

The fight of Alistair Overeem and Alexander Volkov will be a very thrilling fight since both of them has a good current standing. Alistair already has a 47-18-0 standing while Alexander has 32-8-0 standing. We can obviously see that Alexander has a better ratio of wins compare to losses but we cannot decide who wins because Alistair still has a better experience since he is much older. They are both from overweight so we cannot easily know who can win. Also this fight is also a main event so thrill will be much more inside the ring. The younger player Alexander is much taller than Alistair that can be a disadvantage because they have the same reach but the disadvantage of Alistair is he is much more heavier than Alexander that can cause him to be slow.