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Yeah, I don't think Conor will never be truly "done", however his flamboyant attitude does seem to have been watered down a little since his previous fights, and to be honest I quite like  that side of him. However, the reason Conor brings in so many PPVs, and fans from all walks of life is maingly due to his attitude to other fighters, but not only that he's been known to deliver on the night also. Casual fans, and dedicated ones will often quote his "who the fook is this guy" line. When you think of Conor you think of trash talking, for example his fight between him, and mayweather the press conference before that was comedy gold. Now, Conor only really showed respect to Poirier, but are we going to see Conor continue along that path, or will he revert to his usual tactics, and put on a show? He's a fantastic fighter, and I love his style. I'm actually a big fan of him, but I have questions of whether he wants to be there fighting, and I know that he's stated that he's looking to fight multiple times in the UFC this year, but I'm not sure if there's any weight behind that.

I do think he needs to fight a tough opponent next though, just because I'd like him to prove the doubters wrong, and partially prove me wrong too. I want to see Conor at his best, because I don't think anyone can argue otherwise, he's very exciting to watch, but also does a lot of good for mixed martial arts.

In that weight class, there's several tough fighters, and the reason why I think its important for him to go for a tough fight, is you'll quickly get left behind in the division otherwise, because its absolutely rammed full of talent.

That's not to say Conor will disappear, but as a fan of Conor I want to see him wanting to prove everyone wrong, and becoming the best fighter he can be, because that's when us fans will be in for a treat.

Breaking news for UFC 258 event scheduled for February 13 is that Bobby Green vs. Jim Miller is added to the fight card and made it more interesting to watch!
Bobby Green record is 27-11-1 and he lost against Thiago Moises in last fight, and similar for Jim Miller 32-15 who lost against Vinc Pichel.

Chris Weidman tested positive on covid and his fight with Uriah Hall is canceled.
Main event for that card is Kamaru Usman vs Gilbert Burns for welterweight title and co-main Kelvin Gastelum vs Ian Heinisch.

But let's first prepare for this weekend fight of heavyweight giants Overeem vs Volkov.
Volkov is great fighter but I am not sure why he is so big favorite with bookmakers, and Overeem with last two wins against Harris and Sakai should not be underestimated here.

His record shows he is a Lightweight fighter and that is where he had is success but i doubt he could cut down the weight to fit in that division and whenever he was cutting weight during his reign he looked depleted on weigh ins. There is no way he could be competitive against any top fighters in the Welter Weight division. The game plan of Conor is still the same and all the fighters have a blue print on how to tackle his style and i wont be surprised if he returns and losses again and retire for good.

In my opinion, in what I see, Cory Sandhagen has the stat advantage and that's it he may have a chance on Frankie Edgar, but Don't underestimate and forget the number of wins he has, he might lose to Aldo and Holloway but his fight with Yair Rodriguez that is what I think was good about Frankie Edgar, but I think both are Ok in fighting on the ground I think that both have good striking power, this might end up bloody indeed,

The number of fights for Frankie Edgar over Sandhagen goes to show how Frankie Edgar has the most experience but Sandhagen had the talent in giving a good fight to Edgar so keep that in mind, So I am still profound about giving my Bet for both fighters, and that is up to the most experience a fighter has.

^  He hasn’t fought much the last couple of years and he could be in more of a major decline than most think imho.  On the other hand, all the other top fighters at LW have been leveling up except Ferguson.  Oliviera being the best example of somebody who ‘leveled up’.

I've made little statistics of Conor McGregor fight in 3 different weight division (this is not only UFC, but his whole career).

Welterweight 2-2
Featherweight 14-1 (8-1 was probably made in UFC)
Lightweight 6-2

I dont know in which weight division he should compete. Welterweight - there is Kamaru Usman on top. Lightweight - he had just lost there to Poirier, I guess he could be Fergusson. Gaethje, Oliveira, Chandler are on a higher level than Conor imo. That is why welcome back to Featherweight, where he got more wins in his career. Ortega, Holloway, Volkanovski are someone he is able to beat.

Fighting 'tough' fighters isn't the best game plan for him right now, but I don't think there's anyone in his division that he can't beat on a good day except for maybe Khabib. Connor won't be 'busted' after another loss but it's doing damage to his brand for sure and needs a win to bring back faith in him. IF he loses his next fight I'm sure his PPV numbers will start to dwindle, but the last fight was the second highest PPV buys in history second only to his fight against Khabib. Even if he loses his next fight hype can always be built for rematches with several people like Diaz, Aldo, Poirier etc. I think Poirier trilogy will be his best next bet and the easiest fight to get done. Neither of them deserve a title shot right now and both seem willing to fight again and Poirier knows this fight will be his biggest payday. McGregor still gets the PPV draws so he's far from done. If he does take the Poirier rematch and loses that isn't going to be a good look though. He really needs to win that one. If McGregor does get back in form maybe someday down the line he can meet Khabib again which would almost certainly break UFC records. One or both of the fighters could bow out after that one.



Doubt the Khabib fight will happen until Connor has proved he's worthy of a rematch with him as he's said things along the same lines. I don't think that fight would be a good fight for Connor right now either even though it's the biggest fight from a money point of view.

Then lets hope Alexander find out how to counter Overeems knees and strength. Also I think that Overeems wrestling and grappling is on a higher level than Alexanders. Alexander could counter Overeem only with his age and ambitions. Alexander is karate and kickboxing. Overeem already proved by becoming K1 champion, that he could compete with high class strikers.

It's really good to look at the early lines to see if there's some value.  I think that Overeem one is value as it could move closer as we get to the day of the event.  And if you really want Sandhagen, it's best to wait for the line to move towards Edgar since he's a fan favorite.  Lots of money should prolly be going to him a couple of days before the event. 

That Sandhagen via decision prop at 1.95 is ok I guess.  But best to wait for a better line.  Just my 2c.

Aldo needs to hype the rematch and if Conor McGregor looses one more fight then he might think about giving another opportunity for Aldo as he still thinks that he can still be a title contender in the 155 pound division and i am sure he does have the confidence but it wont be easy.

All McGregor needs to do is give opportunity to fighters that are planning to retire and let them earn a fair amount of money before settling down for good .

It's because also, after the lost to Conor went on a 4-5 win/lost record. So there' no more hype on Aldo anymore. He is not the same after Conor destroys him. While Dustin after the first loss to Conor, improved a lot got his chance for a second fight and then won.

So I think there's no hype on Mcgregor vs Aldo at 145. Both of them are in a decline already.

There was no talk about Aldo getting his rematch he wanted it so badly it looks like both fighters are losing their steam, why not let Dana hatch that idea, I'm sure Aldo wants his revenge so badly, and McGregor should give him a chance, Dustin got his rematch, why not Aldo in the 145 pounds it has the making of a big hype.

Everyone forgets that McGregor dominated the 145 pound division and moving up in weight he was able to defeat Eddie Alvarez who is a striker and it was a perfect match up for him but the rest of the 155 pound division is filled with tough opponents and it is not that easy to dominate the division with his style of fighting. I bet if McGregor goes down to 145 pound division he can still dominate most of the fighters but not in higher weight divisions.

McGregor is fast losing his magic he us not the McGregor we've known when he is just starting out, the hunger is not there anymore, Dana should focus on fresh fighter and give them a chances, McGregor has done a lot to the organizations but they cannot keeps give him mega fights and losing it, the best fighter should work there way up and continue to strive to be there, like Khabib had done.

I haven't checked the odds admittedly yet as its a bit too far away for m, but I'll likely be putting it down as a Sandhagen by decision which should bolster the odds a little bit, at least it usually does quite nicely. The thing is when I'm usually super confident on a fighter, that's usually when they end up getting beat in embarrassing fashion, so wanted convincing otherwise!

I'm still sticking with my 30-27 prediction, for anyone reading this DO NOT back based on my over confidence, I'm simply quite biased towards Sandhagen.

Everyone goes through these nightmare, even i had one bad card this month where most of my bets were lost.

If he is aiming to get a title shot he needs to face Justin Gaethje which he avoided for the longest time, another top contender is Charles Oliveira who is a submission specialist and yet another tough opponent then you have the newly signed Michael Chandler who is a hard puncher with wrestling game and the other fighter he can face is Tony Ferguson.

Not sure McGregor will face anyone in the top of the table and he might go after Nate Diaz or ask for the Dustin Poirier trilogy.

^  Sandhagen is pretty good, but that price.  He’s like 1.23ish in most books.  So unless you’re willing to lay that kind of chalk, it’s better to pass or bet on the underdog.  Frankie Edgar is no joke.  The match could be closer than what the lines are showing us.

https://www.bestfightodds.com/events/ufc-fight-night-184-overeem-vs-volkov-2029#

I think Edgar’s wrestling should give Sandhagen a little bit of trouble.


Overeem’s KO percentage is lower cos he has way more bouts than Volkov.  And check out how much of Overeem’s fights were won via sub.  I’m leaning Overeem for the experience, he’s just the better fighter overall and I like those odds.  

https://www.mmaformguide.com/overeem-vs-volkov/

Anyone willing to point out to me why I shouldn't be backing COry Sandhagen as much as I am? I only see this fight going one way, ignoring the chance of any lucky shots. Cory has always impressed me in fights, even when he appears to be struggling he has a certain volume that's just fun to watch. I think he's going to out pressure his opponent, and wear him down across the three rounds.

I don't see a knockout in this fight,  but its going to be a war right until the end. I honestly think we could see a 30-27 win by Cory. This might just be because I'm biased as I love him as a fighter, but I just don't seen a Edgar win (obviously every fighter in MMA has a chance of winning).

You cannot underestimate the striking of Alexander Volkov and he does have knockout power and Alistair Overeem is not the monster he once was and he is prone to great strikers and there is no doubt this will be a great match up but i will be picking Alexander Volkov to win the fight.

It is time Clay Guida retires from the sport, he is in the fight game for a very long time and now he always falls short and i pick Michael Johnson to win the fight because of his fast hands.

Volkov for the win and so Sandhagen. Alistair is already 40 against the 32 Volkov the percentage of knockouts achieved by Volkov is much higher than Alistair. He's be beaten this time around, the younger fighters are more hostile like Cory sandhagen

Clay Guida fits right into the most entertaining fighter, he don't usually win but he eats a lot of punches while just dancing in front.