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October 24, 2020, 11:09:56 AM
~I gambling Gaethje here tho.  Via sub or via KO/TKO!  Grin
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I will pass the Whittaker/Cannonier fight but the odds for submission win is also tempting but I don't think either of them will try to submit. It's most likely going to be a KO/TKO.

Too bad I won't be able watch the fight. It's too early for me. Hoping I could wake up with some great news tomorrow.


Khabib is just calm and strong. It would be really difficult for Gaethje to defeat him. Though Gaethje too is a calm chap who speaks with his fists, Khabib would have a clear psychological advantage. These fighters from Dagestan are so strong from their mind and body that they are hard to break. Gaethje needs to outperform Khabib in agility if he is to win the rounds.

I am positive that Khabib Nurmagomedov has a huge advantage in this fight but as the fight progresses I am too afraid that I might be wrong, I don't know but I am keeping my composure and trust that Nurmagomedov can win this, Actually, I am betting for Khabib but surely enough I don't surely dislike Gaethje style as well still this is really a massive fight that makes bettors think twice before making a bet because of so much support in Gaethje's part that many are believing he could truly defeat The Eagle.
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October 24, 2020, 10:53:18 AM
~I gambling Gaethje here tho.  Via sub or via KO/TKO!  Grin
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I will pass the Whittaker/Cannonier fight but the odds for submission win is also tempting but I don't think either of them will try to submit. It's most likely going to be a KO/TKO.

Too bad I won't be able watch the fight. It's too early for me. Hoping I could wake up with some great news tomorrow.


Khabib is just calm and strong. It would be really difficult for Gaethje to defeat him. Though Gaethje too is a calm chap who speaks with his fists, Khabib would have a clear psychological advantage. These fighters from Dagestan are so strong from their mind and body that they are hard to break. Gaethje needs to outperform Khabib in agility if he is to win the rounds.
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October 24, 2020, 09:42:08 AM
~I gambling Gaethje here tho.  Via sub or via KO/TKO!  Grin
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I will pass the Whittaker/Cannonier fight but the odds for submission win is also tempting but I don't think either of them will try to submit. It's most likely going to be a KO/TKO.

Too bad I won't be able watch the fight. It's too early for me. Hoping I could wake up with some great news tomorrow.
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October 24, 2020, 09:17:04 AM
Jared Cannonier vs Robert Whittaker will be a tricky fight and I can't make make pick yet.
Cannonier (13-4) is seven years older and 4.5” reach advantage here, and he won all 3 of his last fights.
Whittaker (22-5) is taller fighter coming from New Zeland. He lost from Adesanya but won last fight with Till.

Yes, you can see it from the odds and it's been changing and Whittaker is closing the odds. So it's a very tricky but if you got it right it will be a good win. Robert is also a former champion went 50 minutes against Yoel and was able to get in the mat for a combine 1 minutes, taking into consideration Yoel's background.

And the fight is short, 3 rounds, so it will be more on a standing fight, so which one will have the edge? Cannonier has power in both hands but Robert has some serious power as well.
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October 24, 2020, 07:41:14 AM
I gambling Gaethje here tho.  Via sub or via KO/TKO!  Grin  So I'm either gonna look like a genius or the biggest gibroni after the event.  Hoping for the former.  Lolol.
Wow you've really bet money against Khabib?   Shocked Are you crazy? How much were the odds?

It was really a long shot, as per sportsbet.io, the odds are:



So @tokeweed took a big gamble here. The Whittaker vs Cannonier odds are very close now. If I'm not mistaken, Cannonier was like @2.x, not they are almost the same @1.88, odds swing on favor on Whittaker as the fight gets closer.

I made my bet at Stake.  They had it at 50 when I made the bet, it's lower now.  So I bet 50 bucks instead of the planned 100 at 25.  But I dropped the other 50 on Gaethje to win via KO/TKO at 7.5.  Grin
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October 24, 2020, 07:23:20 AM

https://twitter.com/ufc/status/1319971910290186242

Just look at this amazing fight card!
Every single fights is worth watching including Prelims, and everyone will be motivated to show their best edition here.

Khabib Nurmagomedov vs Justin Gaethje will be classic Russia vs USA fight, and maybe one of the most popular events in UFC history.
I am looking to find some bookie that have betting for winner of only first round, and I would give advantage to Justin Gaethje just in first round.
However, I think that Khabib will be better as fight progresses and he will be overall winner, and it will probably be win by submission.
I am sure he will dedicate this win to his late father.

My second pick would be Volkov win in Alexander Volkov vs Walt Harris fight.
I talked about my reasons before, so no need to repeat again.

Jared Cannonier vs Robert Whittaker will be a tricky fight and I can't make make pick yet.
Cannonier (13-4) is seven years older and 4.5” reach advantage here, and he won all 3 of his last fights.
Whittaker (22-5) is taller fighter coming from New Zeland. He lost from Adesanya but won last fight with Till.
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October 23, 2020, 08:28:31 PM
I gambling Gaethje here tho.  Via sub or via KO/TKO!  Grin  So I'm either gonna look like a genius or the biggest gibroni after the event.  Hoping for the former.  Lolol.
Wow you've really bet money against Khabib?   Shocked Are you crazy? How much were the odds?

It was really a long shot, as per sportsbet.io, the odds are:



So @tokeweed took a big gamble here.

A big gamble because Justin opponent is Khabib but it makes sense that he bet on KO/TKO result because surely the outcome will either be Khabib or Justin KO/TKO during the 1st or 2nd round. I'm not expecting that the fight will took until the last round considering the fighting style of both player.

Justin has a shot on this fight because khabib's father died. Let's be honest, this really give a psychological impact and might affect his training session. Still I'm with khabib on this fight. A very powerful fighter, less talk more action. The best fighter.
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October 23, 2020, 08:10:08 PM
I gambling Gaethje here tho.  Via sub or via KO/TKO!  Grin  So I'm either gonna look like a genius or the biggest gibroni after the event.  Hoping for the former.  Lolol.
Wow you've really bet money against Khabib?   Shocked Are you crazy? How much were the odds?

It was really a long shot, as per sportsbet.io, the odds are:



So @tokeweed took a big gamble here. The Whittaker vs Cannonier odds are very close now. If I'm not mistaken, Cannonier was like @2.x, not they are almost the same @1.88, odds swing on favor on Whittaker as the fight gets closer.
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October 23, 2020, 05:26:01 PM
Tune in and watch new Episode 5 for UFC 254 Embedded Vlog Series
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yvaog5dTBKw

Khabib coach is right and talking that thius is the biggest ufc fight ever without any trashtalk, and both fighters showing mutual respect.
There is no need for circus and trash talk, but remember that McGregor is returning soon and trash talk is coming with him:)

This will be a monster fight, I think that shots will be blazing in the first round, I don't see Khabib losing it, but everything is possible. I was so disappointed recently when my countryman's Delija UFC debut was cancelled, this will make up for it for sure, with the thrill it brings.
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October 23, 2020, 05:24:45 PM
I gambling Gaethje here tho.  Via sub or via KO/TKO!  Grin  So I'm either gonna look like a genius or the biggest gibroni after the event.  Hoping for the former.  Lolol.
Wow you've really bet money against Khabib?   Shocked Are you crazy? How much were the odds?

I just take a look to nitro and they say:

Nurmagomedov x1.28
Goethje x3.84

And i don't think Goethje has a chance against khabib because for me he is the hardest fighter today in the UFC, we see how he destroys Conor, and the fighting style he hast is hard to break. So the easy money it's on him, is a smart move to go all-in on this one.
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October 23, 2020, 03:36:40 PM
I gambling Gaethje here tho.  Via sub or via KO/TKO!  Grin  So I'm either gonna look like a genius or the biggest gibroni after the event.  Hoping for the former.  Lolol.
Wow you've really bet money against Khabib?   Shocked Are you crazy? How much were the odds?
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October 23, 2020, 12:36:09 PM
Tune in and watch new Episode 5 for UFC 254 Embedded Vlog Series
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yvaog5dTBKw

Khabib coach is right and talking that thius is the biggest ufc fight ever without any trashtalk, and both fighters showing mutual respect.
There is no need for circus and trash talk, but remember that McGregor is returning soon and trash talk is coming with him:)
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October 23, 2020, 06:37:02 AM
Khabib Weigh in (Almost Miss the weight cut ? )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpIifBOa498



Ortega also looked like he had a bad weight cut a week ago.  Yet he dominated.  I think with Khabib, it was mostly a ruse to make Gaethje's camp think he had a bad weight cut?  Dunno..  But it was the first thing that went in my mind.  Lol.

I gambling Gaethje here tho.  Via sub or via KO/TKO!  Grin  So I'm either gonna look like a genius or the biggest gibroni after the event.  Hoping for the former.  Lolol.

My other bets are Oliviera, Walt Harris and Cannonier.  Still thinking about gambling on Shakirova.


Edit:  Anyway...  Here are the weigh ins.

Khabib Nurmagomedov (155) vs Justin Gaethje (155)
Jared Cannonier (185) vs Robert Whittaker (186)
Walt Harris (254) vs Alexander Volkov (265)
Phil Hawes (186) vs Jacob Malkoun (186)
Lauren Murphy (126) vs Liliya Shakirova (126)
Magomed Ankalaev (205) vs Ion Cutelaba (205.5)
Stefan Struve (265) vs Tai Tuivasa (265)
Casey Kenney (140) vs Nathaniel Wood (140)
Alex Oliveira (173*) vs Shavkat Rakhmonov (171)
Sam Alvey (206) vs Da Un Jung (206)
Liana Jojua (126) vs Miranda Maverick (126)
Joel Alvarez (159.5*) vs Alexander Yakovlev (155.5)

Oliviera and Alvarez missed weight.

UFC 254:  Weigh ins
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okEA5d1Ebe4

UFC 254:  Face offs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-sDyR1UESk
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October 23, 2020, 06:23:22 AM
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I actually think he can take down Khabib. I don't remember anyone doing that to him.
If you want to remember what happens when someone tries to take down Khabib Nurmagomedov just look at the Abel Trujillo fight, in the opening sequence he took Khabib down and that poked the ego of Khabib and then after that all Khabib did in the fight is to take Abel Trujillo over and over again with single legs double legs and different kinds of trips i have never seen before in MMA and that became the UFC record.


Just for all the fight fans on the pure wrestling credibility of Khabib he can go toe to toe against Ed Ruth who is a three time NCAA Division I national champion but what is interesting is that Justin Gaethje faced Jordan Burroughs during his wrestling career and he was able to give Jordan Burroughs a tough match up and even took him down and was able to scramble twice from the bottom and everyone should understand Burroughs is known as one of the best wrestlers US ever produced.

All these said, the major difference is Justin Gaethje moved away completely from wrestling and concentrated mainly on striking and Khabib Nurmagomedov drills wrestling on a daily basis against high level opponents and Dagestan produces the best wrestlers in the world.

I don't see this going 5 rounds, and I don't see this ending by a submission. I believe Khabib will either knock out Justin, or Justin will knock out Khabib. Khabib has shown in the past he can throw punches.
The game plan is simple, Khabib is going to take Gaethje down and when ever Gaethje goes for the calf kick i am expecting a take down which will hesitate Gaethje to throw further kicks and if Khabib can pin Gaethje then he will make Gaethje work hard that will exhaust the opponent and i am expecting Khabib chocking him out in the third or fourth round.
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October 23, 2020, 04:07:49 AM
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It is going to be a technical fight but Justin Gaethje is not going to wrestle,

I actually think he can take down Khabib. I don't remember anyone doing that to him.


I remember early in Khabib's career he was taken down, lots of analysis in youtube stream, but the main thing I remember is that those fighters who takes him down, was really don't a lot of fakes before they suddenly pull a take down attempts on him, in short you have to surprised Khabib.

As for trash talking, Justin is not known, unlike Conor or any other fighters, he has so much respect to his opponent, like in the Cerrone fight, he doesn't want to hit Cowboy but the referee hasn't stop it in time that's why he was force to give some when Cowboy was already down.
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October 23, 2020, 03:53:32 AM
I suspect that Khabib is psychologically not in the best condition right now (although he will be quite ferocious). I'm not his biggest fan, but I hope I'm wrong because, to be honest, Justin is the worst opponent for any version of Khabib.

I can't be sure that he will lose to Justin, but if this happens it will be not only due to lack of skills but due to the depression in which he is. The most effective route for Justin is a powerful, well-timed headbutt to Khabib's chin.

I really think this fight will be dedicated to his father that is why I am pretty sure he will still be in his good condition when fighting Justin pretty much he is still focused on doing things if you would look at all the training they are doing and the dedication to all that you can surely see that Khabib is focus about the fight, Although Justin Gaethje's is also ready in this fight and seeing how dedicated he is in taking his style to beat Nurmagomedov I am positive that Khabib will win this.



It is true after coming in the UFC his strategy revolves around a cage but before that he was fighting in open rings without a cage and he was taking opponents down in the middle. All the opponents he faced knows what is game plan is and none was able to stop that and if Justin Gaethje is able to do that it will be a first and so is the reason everyone is excited to see that fight.


This is why this fight is really exciting many would want to see if Justin Gaethje can really stick to his plan that could stop Khabib in his tracks, people are excited if Khabib Nurmagomedov will lose,
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October 23, 2020, 03:47:33 AM
So apparently the main fight is going to be around 10PM GMT so I won't have to stay up for it which is always annoying with the UFC. Abu Dhabi is in a very similar time zone to the UK but this is the first fight they've put on at a reasonable time for some reason.

^ I'm liking how Justin is carrying himself. Khabib has probably seen all types of trash talking and online bullying from most of his opponents and Justin's humble and calm approach isn't something he sees too often. I don't think that's going to affect Khabib's mentality that much but he probably senses danger. Did I sound too dramatic?  Grin

Not everyone trashtalks and a lot of guys have respect for each other like these two seemingly do. Trashtalking is just mindgames and it might work on the weak-minded if they let it get in their head and lose composure during the fight. Khabib let it get to him a little in the last fight but not enough to make mistakes but it's often not good going into a fight angry and you can get reckless and that's what trashtalking attempts to do. It's also good to sell a fight but I don't want to see it every fight especially if it's just faked for views and to pump up interest. I don't think this fight needs it to be honest and I'd rather them do the "talking" in the ring.
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October 23, 2020, 12:51:23 AM
Khabib Weigh in (Almost Miss the weight cut ? )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpIifBOa498

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October 22, 2020, 11:55:38 PM
Everyone might be overestimating Justin Gaethje's capabilities because of how he appeared to dismantle El Cucuy. We should remember that El Cucuy made 2 different weight cuts in 1 month for 2 different fighters. This certainly affected his body negatively.

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October 22, 2020, 04:30:53 PM
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Yes, the level of government training differs not only in every school and state, but in every country. I'm not very much into the details, but I can say for sure that Justin did not get the push and years of experience that Khabib received.

There is no doubt that Justin is a pretty dangerous opponent. But a lot of people don't really understand the kind of pressure Khabib is under, which is why he takes his training very seriously. I'm talking about psychological pressure from my father or even the president (when he is hinted that he is the face of the nation).

I am very sorry for Justin and he will never be the same after this fight. Imagine how he will feel after round 1, when he realizes that he is years behind the other guy in the cage ... However, I will still root for Gaethje. Since after UFC229 I stopped liking Khabib (namely the incident with his friends). First they attacked Connor after sparring, and then they pounced on the bus (throwing bottles on the bus shouting "We'll fuck your mom").
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