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Quote from: eaLiTy on May 04, 2020, 11:24:43 AM

We might see a fight between Conor McGregor and Jorge Masvidal for the BMF belt, i was expecting a trilogy with Nate Diaz but uncle Dana has other plans Cheesy

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These are speculation by the media when UFC president announced that he has other plans for Masvidal other than Kamaru Usman, even if we assume that they are going to put together that fight how McGregor is able to fly to US and even if they could fly in a private plane with permission from both the countries when can we expect the fight to happen.

The promotion for the BMF belt is finished. However, what we might witness is Jorge Masvidal fight in the boxing ring. Is Canelo Alvarez under the origanization of Oscar dela Hoya?

Oscar De La Hoya and Dana White haven’t seen eye to eye lately but that seems to have changed.

During the COVID-19 pandemic, the combat sports world, like the rest of the world, has been forced to shut down. Yet, White and the UFC plan on returning on May 9 which De La Hoya respects.

“I commend and respect Dana,” De La Hoya said on CBS Sports’ “State of Combat” podcast (via MMAJunkie). “We did have our differences. When I wanted to get involved with the MMA, I did Chuck Liddell (vs.) Tito Ortiz. It was a huge success. I dipped my toes into the water, and I experienced it. It was actually wonderful. I love the MMA.

Read in full https://www.mmanews.com/oscar-de-la-hoya-praises-dana-white-for-doing-a-phenomenal-job-during-covid-19-pandemic/

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Just dropping by to post this vid. And somebody told me that Gaethje is practicing hard on his upper cut. Rofl. So he's prolly going for an upper cut vs Ferguson's step in elbows...?

UFC 249 Free Fight: Cerrone vs Iaquinta
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=048YJ2jlhIA

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Quote from: eaLiTy on May 04, 2020, 11:24:43 AM

We might see a fight between Conor McGregor and Jorge Masvidal for the BMF belt, i was expecting a trilogy with Nate Diaz but uncle Dana has other plans Cheesy

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These are speculation by the media when UFC president announced that he has other plans for Masvidal other than Kamaru Usman, even if we assume that they are going to put together that fight how McGregor is able to fly to US and even if they could fly in a private plane with permission from both the countries when can we expect the fight to happen.

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Quote from: Debonaire217 on May 04, 2020, 06:17:09 AM

I'm not really in-to UFC sports but is that allowed that both of these fighters will be fighting even with with different heights? I think it is quite hard for the white one to reach the opponent as it is evident in the picture that he can grab him easily because of his long hands. Well, If it is allowed then the faith of the match will depend on the skill of both of these fighters, and how the will cope with the physical characteristics of their opponent.

Looks like you are confused with the image i posted, Francis Ngannouis is the big guy and the person next to him is not his opponent Wink

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Every contact sports has weight divisions, UFC has 8 weight divisions for men and 4 weight division for women. UFC started with one division as it was open weight class then they introduced weight division to make MMA a sporting event rather than a spectacle.
Boxing has 17 weight divisions and so does other sports.

We might see a fight between Conor McGregor and Jorge Masvidal for the BMF belt, i was expecting a trilogy with Nate Diaz but uncle Dana has other plans Cheesy

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Quote from: Debonaire217 on May 04, 2020, 06:17:09 AM

I'm not really in-to UFC sports but is that allowed that both of these fighters will be fighting even with with different heights?

As long as fighters are in the same weight category, they are allowed to fight. And difference height - this is just someone advantage (or disadvantage, google Hong ManChoi and watch his fights

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Quote from: eaLiTy on May 03, 2020, 03:55:35 PM

Francis Ngannou form is scary. He seems to have lost some weight, gained speed, but his strikes are as deadly as always. True machine, I dont know what Rozenstruik could show against him, as he seems slower. I predict a KO in first round.

Yup. And at 1.90, it looks like a bargain. IMHO.

Anyway, here it is guys! I miss these vids before every huge UFC event.

UFC 249: Count Down - Full Episode
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srfaYh0Cht4

And here's a couple more tapes for you to watch before getting your BTC's in. I'm still mixed with Ferguson and Gaethje. Gut feeling, Gaethje. The more I think about it, Ferguson...

UFC 249: Free Fight - Gaethje vs Johnson
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-SycSZJPHQ

UFC 249: Free Fight - Ferguson vs Pettis
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8uLVcFiqH8

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Quote from: TopTort777 on May 04, 2020, 05:02:21 AM

Francis Ngannou form is scary. He seems to have lost some weight, gained speed, but his strikes are as deadly as always. True machine, I dont know what Rozenstruik could show against him, as he seems slower. I predict a KO in first round.

I'm not really in-to UFC sports but is that allowed that both of these fighters will be fighting even with with different heights? I think it is quite hard for the white one to reach the opponent as it is evident in the picture that he can grab him easily because of his long hands. Well, If it is allowed then the faith of the match will depend on the skill of both of these fighters, and how the will cope with the physical characteristics of their opponent.

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Quote from: eaLiTy on May 03, 2020, 03:55:35 PM

Francis Ngannou form is scary. He seems to have lost some weight, gained speed, but his strikes are as deadly as always. True machine, I dont know what Rozenstruik could show against him, as he seems slower. I predict a KO in first round.

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Quote from: YuginKadoya on May 03, 2020, 08:16:05 AM

Quote from: ene1980 on May 02, 2020, 06:37:47 PM

Quote from: YuginKadoya on May 02, 2020, 06:56:10 AM

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Well, they can always try what WWE had done and made it an online pay per view kind of thing or Dana White can always make money on Gambling as well

From What i understand the promoters cannot wage a bet, PPV is what they will be looking for and there is a guaranteed pay from ESPN for every show and hence they will not mind conducting the fights in empty stadiums because there is not much sporting events going on and people will be dying to see some sporting events and it might break some PPV records or atleast illegal streaming records Grin

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Well, you are right promoters cannot wage in a bet but maybe in secrets? Roll Eyes

anyway PPV will surely be off the records because right now just like you have said people just like myself are dying to see sports events like UFC, NBA, MMA, and much more we could ask, but at least they are doing something for some fights in the UFC to still continue.

But in my opinion, there will still be a risk for doing this we can not see the enemy and it is airborne I don't like to be a skeptic and a killjoy for many that would like to watch UFC but for me, life is still more important all people should cooperate in this kind of times and set one mindset in not letting the virus spread.

Quote from: ene1980 on May 03, 2020, 05:58:27 PM

The fighters and the promoter is taking a huge risk carrying on with the event and the only reason is because there is no sporting event right now globally and if the UFC is able to come up with a card and impress the dying sporting fans, they might get new fans for the sport of MMA and i think that is the plan for Dana White

@ene1980 as other users have correctly pointed out that they’re not doing it for the fans, or even looking out to add any new fans they’re only doing it to add more money to their bank accounts, and it’s a very greedy move in my personal opinion. While I do condemn their motives I’ll yet be watching the event, and may even wager on it as it’s been really long since I saw some proper sporting event.

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https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2020/mar/15/ufc-coronavirus-pandemic-dana-white-trump

https://www.espn.in/mma/ufc/story/_/id/29124725/dana-white-announces-ufc-fight-night-lineups-may

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Quote from: YuginKadoya on May 03, 2020, 08:16:05 AM

But in my opinion, there will still be a risk for doing this we can not see the enemy and it is airborne I don't like to be a skeptic and a killjoy for many that would like to watch UFC but for me, life is still more important all people should cooperate in this kind of times and set one mindset in not letting the virus spread.

The fighters and the promoter is taking a huge risk carrying on with the event and the only reason is because there is no sporting event right now globally and if the UFC is able to come up with a card and impress the dying sporting fans, they might get new fans for the sport of MMA and i think that is the plan for Dana White

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Quote from: tokeweed on May 03, 2020, 10:42:02 AM

Made a couple more bets... Ngannou vs Rosensteuik, under 1.5 rounds at 1.90 and putting some action on Cerrone at 2.20 vs Pettis. Both have been declining lately but I think a declining Cerrone beats a declining Pettis. IMHO.

Francis Ngannouis the first real competition for Jairzinho Rozenstruik in MMA even though Alistair Overeem was a worthy opponent but he was getting outscored by Overeem but he was able to knock him out in the final round and i have seen the recent pictures of Francis Ngannouis and he looked really ripped. My pick is Francis Ngannouis but i wont be surprised if they go to the third round.

Pettis and Cerrone are at the tail end of their careers and it is good to see the UFC is not putting both these fighters against new upcoming talents to get a huge push.

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Made a couple more bets... Ngannou vs Rosensteuik, under 1.5 rounds at 1.90 and putting some action on Cerrone at 2.20 vs Pettis. Both have been declining lately but I think a declining Cerrone beats a declining Pettis. IMHO.

UFC 249: Free Fight - Cerrone vs Pettis 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBuQLYsOAdQ

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Quote from: ene1980 on May 02, 2020, 06:37:47 PM

Quote from: YuginKadoya on May 02, 2020, 06:56:10 AM

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Well, they can always try what WWE had done and made it an online pay per view kind of thing or Dana White can always make money on Gambling as well

From What i understand the promoters cannot wage a bet, PPV is what they will be looking for and there is a guaranteed pay from ESPN for every show and hence they will not mind conducting the fights in empty stadiums because there is not much sporting events going on and people will be dying to see some sporting events and it might break some PPV records or atleast illegal streaming records Grin

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Well, you are right promoters cannot wage in a bet but maybe in secrets? Roll Eyes

anyway PPV will surely be off the records because right now just like you have said people just like myself are dying to see sports events like UFC, NBA, MMA, and much more we could ask, but at least they are doing something for some fights in the UFC to still continue.

But in my opinion, there will still be a risk for doing this we can not see the enemy and it is airborne I don't like to be a skeptic and a killjoy for many that would like to watch UFC but for me, life is still more important all people should cooperate in this kind of times and set one mindset in not letting the virus spread.

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True, Tony is a unique fighter, but why he only fights once a year? That is disappointing and without real fight practice, he could lose all his experience and immense stamina.

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Quote from: YuginKadoya on May 02, 2020, 06:56:10 AM

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Well, they can always try what WWE had done and made it an online pay per view kind of thing or Dana White can always make money on Gambling as well

From What i understand the promoters cannot wage a bet, PPV is what they will be looking for and there is a guaranteed pay from ESPN for every show and hence they will not mind conducting the fights in empty stadiums because there is not much sporting events going on and people will be dying to see some sporting events and it might break some PPV records or atleast illegal streaming records Grin

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Quote from: tokeweed on May 02, 2020, 11:17:39 AM

Just made a couple of small bets. Dominick Cruz to win via decision at 3.40 and Ferguson vs Gaethje to go over 2.5 rounds at 2.10. Both are FJ odds.

Anyway.. Still haven't decided on the winner of the main event itself. Sometimes I think it's Tony via submission at the fourth or fifth round, sometimes I think it's Gaethje via KO or TKO at prolly the third. Dunno... What do you guys think?

Tony Ferguson is a really unique fighter who has immense stamina who fights the fight round like he fought the first minute of the fight and can take a punch on the other hand Gaethje slows down as the fights goes to the second and third round and Tony always finds a way to win the fight. I am going with Tony because i want to see Tony and Khabib fight.

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Just made a couple of small bets. Dominick Cruz to win via decision at 3.40 and Ferguson vs Gaethje to go over 2.5 rounds at 2.10. Both are FJ odds.

Anyway.. Still haven't decided on the winner of the main event itself. Sometimes I think it's Tony via submission at the fourth or fifth round, sometimes I think it's Gaethje via KO or TKO at prolly the third. Dunno... What do you guys think?

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Quote from: ene1980 on April 30, 2020, 02:07:03 PM

The reason i think is because Vince McMahon went ahead with his live drama Wwe in empty stadium and even though it is a scripted one they are in close proximity just like any combat sport and it all depends upon the general sentiment on the backlash if something goes wrong and if they allow a sporting event to conduct the fight then the rest of the sports managers and owners will push to restart their schedule in empty stadiums and it will be a big mess and i am sure they will take all these into account before giving the clearance.

Well, they can always try what WWE had done and made it an online pay per view kind of thing or Dana White can always make money on Gambling as well
and they can always have an empty stadium for the show to go on and I guess after Trump is considering reopening the economy than giving a much deal over making a medicine for the virus, Maybe this is a beginning of a leap through reconsidering the safety of the audience that is.

Quote from: ene1980 on April 30, 2020, 02:07:03 PM

It is really unfortunate that we are not able to witness this great match up, this is the fifth time and there is no event that was cursed like this in the history of sports.

I think that is how it should be but hopefully, all other matchups can still continue and announcements of the fights will be on May 13 onwards if this will go through this may be a new normal for UFC without any audience involved, but again there are still fighters stuck on their country regarding this changes on the matchups is a must.

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The UFC announced two fight cards for May 13 and May 16

Here is the May 13th fight card

Anthony Smith vs Glover Teixeira
Ben Rothwell vs Ovince Saint Preux
Drew Dober vs Alexander Hernandez
Andrei Arlovski vs Philipe Lins
Ray Borg vs Ricky Simon
Karl Roberson vs Marvin Vettori
Michael Johnson vs Thiago Moises
Sijara Eubanks vs Sarah Moras
Hunter Azure vs Brian Kelleher

May 16th fight card

Walt Harris vs Alistair Overeem
Claudia Gadelha vs Angela Hill
Edson Barboza vs Dan Ige
Eryk Anders vs Krzysztof Jotko
Marlon Vera vs Yet to name the opponent
Anthony Hernandez vs Kevin Holland
Giga Chikadze vs Mike Davis
Cortney Casey vs Mara Romero Borella
Darren Elkins vs Nate Landwehr
Rodrigo Nascimento vs Don’Tale Mayes

Since he released the future cards, i think the UFC will start putting up fights and he might have got the permission to carry on with the event without an audience.

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Quote from: hilariousetc on April 30, 2020, 05:05:03 AM

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I think I saw an interview with Dana a while ago where he says they're contracted to offer them at least three fights per year but the fighter can turn them down, but they don't get paid if they do. Masvidal could easily fight Diaz again (or someone else) and then take a bigger fight when one becomes available. It's not like these big UFC fights are put together on a whim and there's months of planning before they're fully announced so there's plenty of time for fighters to recover and get ready for the next big fight.

The fighters get paid only when they dance in the Octagan and recently they started having back up fighters for main events because we have seen many main events changed at the last moment due to injury and those fighters will get paid fully even if they are not fighting. In the case of Masvidal and Nate Diaz even if Masvidal wanted to have a rematch now Dana White is not interested because another Nate loss would reduce the shine of a Conor McGregor triolgy and i am certain that will be the next fight they will make with Conor.

Quote from: hilariousetc on April 30, 2020, 05:05:03 AM

It might be hard to negotiate with them but Nate would be a fool to not take another fight with either Masvidal or McGregor. I don't know what he's doing for money right now but UFC fighters usually can't afford not to fight for prolonged periods of time and aside from the Masvidal fight I don't think Nate has done anything since Connor. Connor's biggest potential fights right now would surely be either Masvidal or rematches with Diaz & Khabib. None of them would be easy fights for him though.

Nick and Nate Diaz is running a successful marijuana business, the company name is GAME UP and they specialize on CBD products and even Nick was offered several fights but he turned down everything and he is a big super star who could attract a large crowd and Nate is adament that he will fight only if he gets big money and i am sure Dana White will make the Conor Nate trilogy.

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Quote from: tokeweed on May 01, 2020, 10:03:27 AM

Watching the tape of Cejudo vs Moraes... I think depending on which Cruz shows up, if it's a peak Cruz, he could just very well squeeze out a W via (split) decision here. Cruz def has the technical skill and the cardio to stay away from Cejudo for 5 rounds. I don't know what happened to Moraes starting at the second round... Prolly got tired...? Already?

It's 3.40 (FJ odds) for Cruz via decision... I think it's a bet.

I like Dominick Cruz and his unorthodox style and the amount of energy he is spending moving around is huge and he is coming back after a long lay off due to injury, he proved earlier that there is no ring rust as he used to return after a long gap and win against top ranking fighters but this time my only doubt is his age as he is 35 years now and the time away will have an affect on his performance and if he looses i think he will retire. In the fight between Moraes and Cejudo, the first two rounds Moraes dominated the fight and his output was really high and that might swapped his energy but Cejudo started attacking hard in the last two minutes of the second round and took control of the fight.

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