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Quote from: hilariousetc on May 08, 2020, 07:12:45 AM

Quote from: TopTort777 on May 08, 2020, 06:25:12 AM

Looking ahead, just take a glance on the next event (FN173) fight card Roll Eyes

While UFC249 is a "pure gold", FN173 can be compared to dull copper. After all the stars in UFC249, people will be a bit confused with FN173.
Anyway it was really a tough work for Dana to find available, willing to fight and be able to visit the event fighters.

249 should be great but after that I'm more interested in the potential Fight Island. Dana did an interview recently with BT sports where he gave updated on everything he's working on: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDqq8wK6K7s

If he can get just one big fight for the Island it will be huge, but he mentions with fighters like McGregor they will miss out millions from gate receipts. I still think they will make up for that in PPV sales though as if that's the only way you can watch it they could get away with charging a premium, which would be understandable given how much they've probably spent on the infrastructure etc.

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American mixed martial artist and former UFC lightweight champion, Eddie Alvarez, has bought one Bitcoin (BTC). In a tweet, May 7, he claimed he “can’t sit on the sidelines any longer.”

Askren is such a big BTC fan that he has even changed his Twitter handle in honor of the upcoming Bitcoin halving. As Cointelegraph reported, in January he also publicly labeled XRP “a scam.”

https://cointelegraph.com/news/former-ufc-champion-cant-sit-on-sidelines-any-longer-buys-bitcoin
https://cointelegraph.com/news/ufc-fighter-changes-twitter-name-to-promote-bitcoin-halving

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Things had changed so people who loved to be on the stadium would have to go PPV unless they are willing to risk. McGregor and Masvidal I guess are confirmed to be in the island. But not Kabib. Still the profit from the gate receipts will not be the same.

That's fun of Askren, he uses his account for the countdown.

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Quote from: ene1980 on May 06, 2020, 01:22:49 PM

The leg injury and the surgery pic looked horrible and yes it was his left leg, yet Ferguson returned to fight Anthony Pettis than normal time which is crazy on its own because with the type of injury he had it was foolish to return that fast and he came back and destroyed Pettis even though he got rocked in the fight.

Tony Ferguson is not human, he started his own rehabilitation and set up his own gym and started practicing for the next fight in three months after the surgery which is unheard even for other fighters as they were amused by the early recovery.

Quote from: ene1980 on May 06, 2020, 01:22:49 PM

The doubt i have is, what happens if any fighter tests positive after the event, will they sign a non disclosure agreement with the fighters to keep their mouth shut.

In a world where you cannot uphold privacy you think that if there is an agreement it will not leak to the media, even if there is a private deal if they are admitted to the hospital for the treatment it will be public knowledge Tongue

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Quote from: hilariousetc on May 08, 2020, 07:12:45 AM

If he can get just one big fight for the Island it will be huge, but he mentions with fighters like McGregor they will miss out millions from gate receipts. I still think they will make up for that in PPV sales though as if that's the only way you can watch it they could get away with charging a premium, which would be understandable given how much they've probably spent on the infrastructure etc.

We will get the clarity after this event, majority of the people are on the verge of loosing their jobs and business and it will be a success but expect more illegal streams unless they reduce the PPV charges.

Ben Askren is a crypto enthusiast for a long time, good to see Eddie Alvarez jumping in knowing that the halving is approaching Grin

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Quote from: TopTort777 on May 08, 2020, 06:25:12 AM

Looking ahead, just take a glance on the next event (FN173) fight card Roll Eyes

While UFC249 is a "pure gold", FN173 can be compared to dull copper. After all the stars in UFC249, people will be a bit confused with FN173.
Anyway it was really a tough work for Dana to find available, willing to fight and be able to visit the event fighters.

249 should be great but after that I'm more interested in the potential Fight Island. Dana did an interview recently with BT sports where he gave updated on everything he's working on: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDqq8wK6K7s

If he can get just one big fight for the Island it will be huge, but he mentions with fighters like McGregor they will miss out millions from gate receipts. I still think they will make up for that in PPV sales though as if that's the only way you can watch it they could get away with charging a premium, which would be understandable given how much they've probably spent on the infrastructure etc.

Did anyone see this?

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American mixed martial artist and former UFC lightweight champion, Eddie Alvarez, has bought one Bitcoin (BTC). In a tweet, May 7, he claimed he “can’t sit on the sidelines any longer.”

Askren is such a big BTC fan that he has even changed his Twitter handle in honor of the upcoming Bitcoin halving. As Cointelegraph reported, in January he also publicly labeled XRP “a scam.”

https://cointelegraph.com/news/former-ufc-champion-cant-sit-on-sidelines-any-longer-buys-bitcoin
https://cointelegraph.com/news/ufc-fighter-changes-twitter-name-to-promote-bitcoin-halving

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Looking ahead, just take a glance on the next event (FN173) fight card Roll Eyes

While UFC249 is a "pure gold", FN173 can be compared to dull copper. After all the stars in UFC249, people will be a bit confused with FN173.
Anyway it was really a tough work for Dana to find available, willing to fight and be able to visit the event fighters.

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UFC 249 Embedded: Vlog Series - Episode 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7ZcCpMjis8

UFC 249 Embedded: Vlog Series - Episode 3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VS9-Woq3g-A

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Quote from: Ste77811 on May 07, 2020, 02:14:47 PM

Ended up betting Cruz to win by decision at odds of 4.0.
Really think if he isn't shot then this fight is going to be close.

The reason i am staying away from Cruz is because he is returning after a long lay off due to injury, the odds look tempting though.

My predictions are
Francis Ngannou to win by KO
Justin Gaethje after seeing Inside the Octagon
Greg Hardy by KO
Henry Cejudo because of his superior wrestling and Cruz returning after a long lay off.

A fighter with injury will not fight like he would back when he isn't yet injured. When the spider broke his leg he isn't just as he was after it. Cruz also suffers the same. He might not be a fighter anymore. Cejudo is always been agressive, faster and still in his prime.

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Quote from: Ste77811 on May 07, 2020, 02:14:47 PM

Ended up betting Cruz to win by decision at odds of 4.0.
Really think if he isn't shot then this fight is going to be close.

The reason i am staying away from Cruz is because he is returning after a long lay off due to injury, the odds look tempting though.

My predictions are
Francis Ngannou to win by KO
Justin Gaethje after seeing Inside the Octagon
Greg Hardy by KO
Henry Cejudo because of his superior wrestling and Cruz returning after a long lay off.

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Ended up betting Cruz to win by decision at odds of 4.0.
Really think if he isn't shot then this fight is going to be close.

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Quote from: tokeweed on May 06, 2020, 11:13:57 AM

^ Yup... The thing I got from it is Ferguson should be extra careful about those hard Gaethje leg kicks. I didn't realize he threw a lot of those til I saw the stats. And remember, Ferguson had a knee injury a couple of years back and had to get surgery. I think it was the left knee.

The leg injury and the surgery pic looked horrible and yes it was his left leg, yet Ferguson returned to fight Anthony Pettis than normal time which is crazy on its own because with the type of injury he had it was foolish to return that fast and he came back and destroyed Pettis even though he got rocked in the fight.

Quote from: YuginKadoya on May 06, 2020, 12:27:59 PM

I really doubt that is the real plan of Dana White he would not want an opportunity to go in waste and his bank account to wither like what happens to many sporting events he would surely just wants his money that is his real agenda in the first place, and he becomes filthy rich because of UFC he would surely want to continue amidst the risk involved I am having doubt and at the same time excited if this fight will really continue.

It might be because of the contact they have with ESPN, Dana White made enough money and he has everything in life and earned around $400 million when they sold the UFC and still he has stakes in the company.

The doubt i have is, what happens if any fighter tests positive after the event, will they sign a non disclosure agreement with the fighters to keep their mouth shut.

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Quote from: ene1980 on May 03, 2020, 05:58:27 PM

The fighters and the promoter is taking a huge risk carrying on with the event and the only reason is because there is no sporting event right now globally and if the UFC is able to come up with a card and impress the dying sporting fans, they might get new fans for the sport of MMA and i think that is the plan for Dana White

I really doubt that is the real plan of Dana White he would not want an opportunity to go in waste and his bank account to wither like what happens to many sporting events he would surely just wants his money that is his real agenda in the first place, and he becomes filthy rich because of UFC he would surely want to continue amidst the risk involved I am having doubt and at the same time excited if this fight will really continue.

Quote from: Juggy777 on May 04, 2020, 02:08:48 AM

@ene1980 as other users have correctly pointed out that they’re not doing it for the fans, or even looking out to add any new fans they’re only doing it to add more money to their bank accounts, and it’s a very greedy move in my personal opinion. While I do condemn their motives I’ll yet be watching the event, and may even wager on it as it’s been really long since I saw some proper sporting event.

Source:

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2020/mar/15/ufc-coronavirus-pandemic-dana-white-trump

https://www.espn.in/mma/ufc/story/_/id/29124725/dana-white-announces-ufc-fight-night-lineups-may

Greedy as it can be and amidst the problem of many countries Dana White would go far beyond the safety just for an event to continue,

All Dana White was thinking was his own money to not go empty his not really doing it for his fans but for a selfish act in getting full.

But even though he is too greedy about this I sure do want to continue and watch a fight even though I don't really have any info about the fighters I just miss the action in the Octagon that is.

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^ Yup... The thing I got from it is Ferguson should be extra careful about those hard Gaethje leg kicks. I didn't realize he threw a lot of those til I saw the stats. And remember, Ferguson had a knee injury a couple of years back and had to get surgery. I think it was the left knee.

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Quote from: Juggy777 on May 04, 2020, 02:08:48 AM

@ene1980 as other users have correctly pointed out that they’re not doing it for the fans, or even looking out to add any new fans they’re only doing it to add more money to their bank accounts, and it’s a very greedy move in my personal opinion. While I do condemn their motives I’ll yet be watching the event, and may even wager on it as it’s been really long since I saw some proper sporting event.

The reason might be the ESPN deal they had for a whooping $1.5 billion and they need to telecast 40 events each year including PPV and since they lost a couple of months they might be forced to carry on with the event, like you said, i will be watching the event as there is nothing interesting to watch for a very long time but we will know the consequences in a months time, if everything goes fine and the fighters are safe, then it is fine.

Quote from: tokeweed on May 06, 2020, 10:39:36 AM

Here's Inside the Octagon for 249. It doesn't feel the same with Hardy and Gooden doing it over video chat... Enjoy.

but the breakdown was great as usual.

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Quote from: NavI_027 on May 06, 2020, 12:52:20 AM

Quote from: tokeweed on May 04, 2020, 09:17:25 AM

Francis Ngannou form is scary. He seems to have lost some weight, gained speed, but his strikes are as deadly as always. True machine, I dont know what Rozenstruik could show against him, as he seems slower. I predict a KO in first round.

The physique of a fighter can intimidate his opponent but this is not scale of higher winning rate. MMA is not a body building contest after all Cheesy

. I give you few examples. Frank Mir defeted Lesnar by submission, Dc knocked out Miocic and many more. See? Fighting IQ can beat Muscles.

For me both Predator and Rozenstruik are considerably slow and that's normal in the HW division Grin

. What matters the most here is the cardio and punching power. Ngannou is definitely strong, no questions about it. However I cannot underestimate the underdog since he made Overeem's lips tear apart lol. That was insane!

You quoted the wrong guy btw... I didn't say that. Grin

Here's Inside the Octagon for 249. It doesn't feel the same with Hardy and Gooden doing it over video chat... Enjoy.

UFC 249: Inside the Octagon - Ferguson vs Gaethje
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvgfXK4nTYKudb0rFR6noLA

UFC 249: Embedded - Episode 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-iiOXf4KNiw

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Quote from: TopTort777 on May 06, 2020, 07:02:23 AM

~snip
Strange that if he wrestles, he sure knows or at least heard what submissions are. And still lost in 1:30 of first round

Wrestler knows grappling and take down techniques and they are not used to submissions, to be a submission specialist you need to learn Jiu Jitsu and Brock Lesner when he came to the UFC was not having extensive experience in submission as he thought he would win by his brute force and wrestling skills and so was the reason he was defeated in the first fight in the UFC but he avenged the loss later.

Quote from: TopTort777 on May 06, 2020, 07:02:23 AM

Btw, does anyone knows if ufc fighters, that gonna compete during lockdown period, will receive any special kind of insurance or bonuses? Because fighting these days are a bit more dangerous than it was 2-3 months ago.

The UFC might be giving them compensation than usual, they will have insurance for the fight and if anything happens they will take care but that is not the case if you are not fighting.

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Quote from: 7788bitcoin on May 06, 2020, 06:24:28 AM

Quote from: TopTort777 on May 06, 2020, 05:36:16 AM

Mir won by kneebar, because Lesnar is not a wrestler (He is a WWE wrestler Cheesy

). They met again where Lesnar proved that mass and muscles can do the job (he went side mount and ground and pound Mir till half dead).

Brock Lesnar is a decorated WWE wrestler but before that he is a wrestling icon and he has won many amateur wrestling championship during his school and college days including NCAA Division

Strange that if he wrestles, he sure knows or at least heard what submissions are. And still lost in 1:30 of first round

Btw, does anyone knows if ufc fighters, that gonna compete during lockdown period, will receive any special kind of insurance or bonuses? Because fighting these days are a bit more dangerous than it was 2-3 months ago.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on May 06, 2020, 05:36:16 AM

Mir won by kneebar, because Lesnar is not a wrestler (He is a WWE wrestler Cheesy

). They met again where Lesnar proved that mass and muscles can do the job (he went side mount and ground and pound Mir till half dead).

Brock Lesnar is a decorated WWE wrestler but before that he is a wrestling icon and he has won many amateur wrestling championship during his school and college days including NCAA Division I heavyweight championship which is not a small feat, if you compare the amateur wrestling pedigree of Brock lesnar you cannot compare that to Frank Mir or anyone else in recent times other than Daniel Comier who is an Olympian.

Quote from: TopTort777 on May 06, 2020, 05:36:16 AM

Ngannou can hold Rozenstruik punch, but counter punch from Ngannou will rip Rozenstruik head off.

I am also expecting Ngannou to win by knockout.

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Quote from: NavI_027 on May 06, 2020, 12:52:20 AM

The physique of a fighter can intimidate his opponent but this is not scale of higher winning rate. MMA is not a body building contest after all Cheesy

. I give you few examples. Frank Mir defeted Lesnar by submission, Dc knocked out Miocic and many more. See? Fighting IQ can beat Muscles.

Mir won by kneebar, because Lesnar is not a wrestler (He is a WWE wrestler Cheesy

). They met again where Lesnar proved that mass and muscles can do the job (he went side mount and ground and pound Mir till half dead).

Ngannou can hold Rozenstruik punch, but counter punch from Ngannou will rip Rozenstruik head off.

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on May 05, 2020, 09:51:27 PM

The promotion for the BMF belt is finished. However, what we might witness is Jorge Masvidal fight in the boxing ring. Is Canelo Alvarez under the origanization of Oscar dela Hoya?

Oscar De La Hoya is still the promoter of Canelo Alvarez even thought they had some disputes last year regarding loosing one of his belts but to see a boxing match between Canelo Alvarez and Masvidal, i am blindly betting on Canelo Alvarez as i do not think anyone in MMA could pose a challenge to a top level boxer and Alvarez is technical a very high caliber boxer and Masvidal is no way in his level but if it is a MMA bout the fight will finish within a round.

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Quote from: tokeweed on May 04, 2020, 09:17:25 AM

Francis Ngannou form is scary. He seems to have lost some weight, gained speed, but his strikes are as deadly as always. True machine, I dont know what Rozenstruik could show against him, as he seems slower. I predict a KO in first round.

The physique of a fighter can intimidate his opponent but this is not scale of higher winning rate. MMA is not a body building contest after all Cheesy

. I give you few examples. Frank Mir defeted Lesnar by submission, Dc knocked out Miocic and many more. See? Fighting IQ can beat Muscles.

For me both Predator and Rozenstruik are considerably slow and that's normal in the HW division Grin

. What matters the most here is the cardio and punching power. Ngannou is definitely strong, no questions about it. However I cannot underestimate the underdog since he made Overeem's lips tear apart lol. That was insane!

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Quote from: tokeweed on May 05, 2020, 07:16:14 AM

~ And somebody told me that Gaethje is practicing hard on his upper cut. Rofl. So he's prolly going for an upper cut vs Ferguson's step in elbows...?

You got insider info or something? It's hard to pull off since he'll need to block the elbow first before he can throw and uppercut but it makes perfect sense.

Quote from: bbc.reporter on May 05, 2020, 09:51:27 PM

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However, what we might witness is Jorge Masvidal fight in the boxing ring.

Jorge looks great but I don't think he has that "stardom" for boxing fans yet. Canelo-McGregor would still be a bigger fight.

Quote from: bbc.reporter on May 05, 2020, 09:51:27 PM

Is Canelo Alvarez under the origanization of Oscar dela Hoya?

I think so.

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