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Quote from: notblox1 on November 15, 2019, 07:19:03 PM

This will be epic fight to see Ortega - Korean Zombie
UFC Fight Night Busan, December 21st

People love Korean Zombie, and crowd will be fully on his side there.

I think this fight is way ahead and we will be heaving two more fights before this, but it is not too early to surely make some prediction and yeah The Korean Zombie is something to look forward too and I think this is a really great main event but this will be on December 21st it is a long wait for this fight.

Quote from: tokeweed on November 16, 2019, 09:19:54 AM

I was gonna bet on Blachowicz but then I saw how juiced up Jacare is (and the fight is in Brazil. USADA doesn't collect the samples themselves there afaik). He's yuuuge af at LHW and he's gonna gain more in 24 hours after weigh ins.

Check him out. Lmao.

UFC Sao Paulo: Weigh Ins
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oi-taqvvXK4

Edit: Thinking of putting some action on Jacare... Anybody know how organized crime operates in Brazilian sports events? Grin

Yup jacare is sure juice up before the fight makes it a slightly difficult to make a bet on it but I guess I will still go with Jan Blachowicz I think he may handle the pressure that Ronaldo Souza has so still gone with Blachowicz.

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I was gonna bet on Blachowicz but then I saw how juiced up Jacare is (and the fight is in Brazil. USADA doesn't collect the samples themselves there afaik). He's yuuuge af at LHW and he's gonna gain more in 24 hours after weigh ins.

Check him out. Lmao.

UFC Sao Paulo: Weigh Ins
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oi-taqvvXK4

Edit: Thinking of putting some action on Jacare... Anybody know how organized crime operates in Brazilian sports events? Grin

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Quote from: eaLiTy on November 14, 2019, 09:57:07 AM

The reason i am giving Blachowicz the advantage is because Souza is coming off a loss to Jack Hermansson and his age and he is battle tested and have multiple injuries and he is moving up a division,

Whoah! I didn't notice it. Jacare is now a Light Heavyweight contender for real Shocked

. I forgot that he originally came from the Middleweight division lol. Anyway, I agree to you somehow but I honestly disregard his new weight class among the disadvantages we can think of. Here's the simple logic, Jacare and his trainers won't decide to go in the higher division in the first place if he is not comfortable with it, right? Hmm facing adjustments are inevitable of course but I'm confident he could used to it. The bottomline, I'm not bothered for him moving but his age does Grin

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Quote from: notblox1 on November 15, 2019, 07:19:03 PM

This will be epic fight to see Ortega - Korean Zombie
UFC Fight Night Busan, December 21st

People love Korean Zombie, and crowd will be fully on his side there.

Good tune up here by Brian Ortega. One year after that humiliating loss to Max Holloway. This is going to be an easy fight on paper for Brian but his one year of inactivity and the possible mental effects on the way he was stopped on his first career defeat. The Korean Zombie will also enjoy the home crowd advantage. My prediction is Brian Ortega wins a decision. He will be careful in this fight.

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Quote from: notblox1 on November 15, 2019, 07:19:03 PM

This will be epic fight to see Ortega - Korean Zombie
UFC Fight Night Busan, December 21st
People love Korean Zombie, and crowd will be fully on his side there.

I will have to give the edge to ORTEGA in this one and I read he is the opening favorite
This fight card is not for another month out so we should focus the attention on the ones that are sooner

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This will be epic fight to see Ortega - Korean Zombie
UFC Fight Night Busan, December 21st

People love Korean Zombie, and crowd will be fully on his side there.

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Quote from: tokeweed on November 14, 2019, 09:14:22 AM

Blachowicz obv has the (huge) edge. Jacare is 40, he's also moving up to LHW for this match and his opponent is a guy who knocked Rockhold out. Blachowiz ITD is the bet. IMHO.

I have seen many advantages on Blachowicz over Jacare so I have seen much positive feedback than what Souza Jacare has, So I am pretty positive that Jan Błachowicz really had a huge advantage in this fight.

Quote from: nydiacaskey01 on November 14, 2019, 05:43:03 PM

I have the same problem before as well, I follow only well known UFC fighters but if you notice, those well known fighters only come out once or twice a year so I don't expect anymore that every UFC event, there will be a superstar in the card lined up to fight, however, in every UFC event, there's a lot of surprises. Some matches you think will turn out dull is sometimes the one that turned out to be the fight of the night. Give new fighters a chance to prove that they are worthy to be in a PPV event of UFC.

I really want to give chance to fighters that are unrecognizable or underrated for now that is why I have posted the matchups for UFC fight night 163 for those players to get some attention and even though I don't bet on their fight I am surely monitoring even the underdogs if they would turn out to have potential in the future.

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Quote from: notblox1 on November 11, 2019, 07:23:53 PM

I am not to exited about this UFC Fight Night 1644 in Brazil
None of the fighters I follow are on the card.
Jan Błachowicz have better odds by bookies, but he is going at Ronaldo Souza home.
Anything can happen really

I have the same problem before as well, I follow only well known UFC fighters but if you notice, those well known fighters only come out once or twice a year so I don't expect anymore that every UFC event, there will be a superstar in the card lined up to fight, however, in every UFC event, there's a lot of surprises. Some matches you think will turn out dull is sometimes the one that turned out to be the fight of the night. Give new fighters a chance to prove that they are worthy to be in a PPV event of UFC.

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Quote from: tokeweed on November 14, 2019, 09:14:22 AM

Blachowicz obv has the (huge) edge. Jacare is 40, he's also moving up to LHW for this match and his opponent is a guy who knocked Rockhold out. Blachowiz ITD is the bet. IMHO.

The reason i am giving Blachowicz the advantage is because Souza is coming off a loss to Jack Hermansson and his age and he is battle tested and have multiple injuries and he is moving up a division, but Souza can strike and it is evident from the knock out of Chris Weidman and even in the past he is known to knockout people and Blachowicz is not known to have knockout power but he floored Luke Rockhold but we know his chin is gone after Bisping knocked him out.

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Quote from: YuginKadoya on November 13, 2019, 08:49:47 AM

Quote from: ene1980 on November 12, 2019, 10:25:14 AM

Quote from: YuginKadoya on November 12, 2019, 08:39:13 AM

But yes I also want to see a Zabit VS Yair fight as well and rooting for that day to come.

Since Max Holloway has an opponent to face in Alexander Volkanovski which is scheduled for the December card we might see Zabit Magomedsharipov and Yair Rodriguez as they are ranked 5 and 6 respectively and any fight with these two opponents will be a spectacle for the audience as you will see many unorthodox techniques.

Quote from: 7788bitcoin on November 12, 2019, 08:59:58 AM

The card is having all the veterans fighting to make money and hence no one is interested in these fights Cheesy

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Since this is a Brazilian even you will see many fan favorites in the event and in the main event Jan Blachowicz is the favorite as Ronaldo Souza is moving up in weight.

Well, if there are surely a big chance for a Zabit Magomedsharipov VS Yair Rodriguez fight then that will be great and I think that there are fans that are very likely to have this fight, but I am having a doubt if Zabit can have a solution with his Cardio then I guess he would likely have a fighting chance against Yair Rodriguez, but that will be a lovely fight to watch.

Quote from: TopTort777 on November 12, 2019, 04:19:19 PM

Let me start

Date   November 16, 2019
Venue   Ginásio do Ibirapuera
City   São Paulo, Brazil

Fight Card (ESPN+)

Light Heavyweight   Jan Błachowicz   vs.   Ronaldo Souza

In this fight I think that I have seen an article about Souza's Mental Health that he nearly quits UFC even though they are saying that this issue has been taken care off, I think there will still be a problem with Souza's performance, while in the other hand Blachowicz’s is a fairly durable fighter that can surely take Souza on in my opinion, And maybe Blachowicz’s can have an advantage in this fight.

Blachowicz obv has the (huge) edge. Jacare is 40, he's also moving up to LHW for this match and his opponent is a guy who knocked Rockhold out. Blachowiz ITD is the bet. IMHO.

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Quote from: NavI_027 on November 13, 2019, 11:58:44 PM

Boxing could be understand even by a grade school student while MMA is way more complex than that. Do you think every people knows what a Kimura is? Of course not, so they tend to watch boxing oftenly than MMA. I hope you can get my point Cheesy

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I agree with your point that boxing is a one dimensional sport and it is easy for everyone to understand but MMA confuses the new audience and it will take time to understand the sport but boxing is a sweet sport and the different organization and greedy promoters killed boxing but now we are seeing a new wave of talents and we are seeing a resurrection in the audience interest.

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Quote from: inthelongrun on November 13, 2019, 06:09:13 PM

Quote from: ene1980 on November 13, 2019, 04:19:32 PM

Quote from: inthelongrun on November 13, 2019, 03:53:50 PM

Nick Diaz did opened up on a possible return to MMA. He is old at 36 but he knows he can cashout millions due to him and his brother's popularity. Dana White is fucking UFC fighters with low payments compared to boxing stars where viewership is nearly at par.

The main fighters might not be earning the amount like Floyd Mayweather but i doubt none of the boxers will be earning that kind of money and if you look at the rest of the fighters in a boxing event none of the fighters will be getting paid like they get in the UFC, so the comparison is not meaningful.

Not just Floyd Mayweather. There are too many high paid boxers out there that UFC superstars can't match in terms of purses. Saul Alvarez, Manny Pacquiao, Anthony Joshua, Vassily Lomachencko, etc. Some of them are not even world champions. I guess even the likes of Derek Chisora and 21 year old prospect Ryan Garcia are more expensive than the current active UFC superstars.

That's because boxing got higher viewers/watchers than MMA which also means higher revenue at the same time ~ change my mind. It so happens maybe because world boxing championships are first founded compare to MMA championships (I believe so, tho I'm not really sure about this) thus they now have more supporters than MMA. Another factor to be considered is the tehnicality, Boxing could be understand even by a grade school student while MMA is way more complex than that. Do you think every people knows what a Kimura is? Of course not, so they tend to watch boxing oftenly than MMA. I hope you can get my point Cheesy

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on November 12, 2019, 09:48:12 PM

Nick Diaz might fight again. However, is this only Nick and Nate's plan to make more money out of a losing situation? I reckon the Diaz brothers are using their popularity in the sport only to get the money. They might have lost their passion for mixed martial arts.
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Nick acting like the Big Brother while staring at $$$ Grin

"All I see is f*cking dollar signs right now"

Jorge did a poll in his youtube channel where he asked his followers who they want to be baptized next and Nick was among the list. Conor was the fans favorite though.

As to the potential Masvidal - (Nick) Diaz fight, I don't think it will generate the same hype with the Nate fight. UFC should grant Jorge a title fight instead and he deserves it.

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I will watch main event BLACHOWICZ VS JACARE...
but probably skip other fights, or watch some if I have time.

As this is in Brasil check your time zone and countdown
https://www.countdownmma.com/

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Quote from: ene1980 on November 13, 2019, 04:19:32 PM

Quote from: inthelongrun on November 13, 2019, 03:53:50 PM

Nick Diaz did opened up on a possible return to MMA. He is old at 36 but he knows he can cashout millions due to him and his brother's popularity. Dana White is fucking UFC fighters with low payments compared to boxing stars where viewership is nearly at par.

The main fighters might not be earning the amount like Floyd Mayweather but i doubt none of the boxers will be earning that kind of money and if you look at the rest of the fighters in a boxing event none of the fighters will be getting paid like they get in the UFC, so the comparison is not meaningful.

Not just Floyd Mayweather. There are too many high paid boxers out there that UFC superstars can't match in terms of purses. Saul Alvarez, Manny Pacquiao, Anthony Joshua, Vassily Lomachencko, etc. Some of them are not even world champions. I guess even the likes of Derek Chisora and 21 year old prospect Ryan Garcia are more expensive than the current active UFC superstars.

Quote from: ene1980 on November 13, 2019, 04:19:32 PM

Quote from: inthelongrun on November 13, 2019, 03:53:50 PM

These UFC fighters can get paid in millions fighting those boxing stars though they will get beaten badly.

You cannot compare and expect a different result when a boxer steps in MMA and the other way round, boxing is one dimensional and MMA is multi dimensional.

I'm talking about the money. Don't get me wrong. I like MMA. Just facts, no excuses. Tongue

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Quote from: inthelongrun on November 13, 2019, 03:53:50 PM

Nick Diaz did opened up on a possible return to MMA. He is old at 36 but he knows he can cashout millions due to him and his brother's popularity. Dana White is fucking UFC fighters with low payments compared to boxing stars where viewership is nearly at par.

The main fighters might not be earning the amount like Floyd Mayweather but i doubt none of the boxers will be earning that kind of money and if you look at the rest of the fighters in a boxing event none of the fighters will be getting paid like they get in the UFC, so the comparison is not meaningful.

Quote from: inthelongrun on November 13, 2019, 03:53:50 PM

These UFC fighters can get paid in millions fighting those boxing stars though they will get beaten badly.

You cannot compare and expect a different result when a boxer steps in MMA and the other way round, boxing is one dimensional and MMA is multi dimensional.

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Quote from: 7788bitcoin on November 13, 2019, 09:48:55 AM

Quote from: bbc.reporter on November 12, 2019, 09:48:12 PM

Nick Diaz might fight again. However, is this only Nick and Nate's plan to make more money out of a losing situation? I reckon the Diaz brothers are using their popularity in the sport only to get the money. They might have lost their passion for mixed martial arts.

The Diaz brothers are making money outside the UFC as they are involved in the weed business and promoting them and they are making use of their popularity well and Nick Diaz is not even interested to be back in the fight game anytime soon as he was offered different fights earlier and considering their popularity the UFC would have offered them a heavy check too, they understand it is not about belts now a days and they are trying to make the maximum money within MMA.

Nick Diaz did opened up on a possible return to MMA. He is old at 36 but he knows he can cashout millions due to him and his brother's popularity. Dana White is fucking UFC fighters with low payments compared to boxing stars where viewership is nearly at par. Chasing a title fight to win a belt can be the gateway for fighters to become popular and earn big. But fighters with solid fan base can get paid better than champions. Look at Connor McGregor, everybody wants a piece of him rather than the champion Khabib. Connor is more than just a UFC belt. Boxing is actually where the fight money is. It's the reason why many UFC star fighters wanted to fight boxing superstars. Nate Diaz took a boxing license trying to lure someone, Stipe Miocic wanted to fight Fury and Masvidal wanted to fight Saul Alvarez. These UFC fighters can get paid in millions fighting those boxing stars though they will get beaten badly.

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on November 12, 2019, 09:48:12 PM

Nick Diaz might fight again. However, is this only Nick and Nate's plan to make more money out of a losing situation? I reckon the Diaz brothers are using their popularity in the sport only to get the money. They might have lost their passion for mixed martial arts.

The Diaz brothers are making money outside the UFC as they are involved in the weed business and promoting them and they are making use of their popularity well and Nick Diaz is not even interested to be back in the fight game anytime soon as he was offered different fights earlier and considering their popularity the UFC would have offered them a heavy check too, they understand it is not about belts now a days and they are trying to make the maximum money within MMA.

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Quote from: mich on November 12, 2019, 10:55:51 PM

This UFC card does little of interest for me other then 2 or 3 fights
I am excited for 'VIOLENCE QUEEN' to win in her home country

She was supposed to be the 'next big thing' in the UFC but turned out to be something like Sage Northcutt and to some extent, Ben Askren after two straight losses to Clarke and McMann.

She's due tho. I like her as the slight underdog here.

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Quote from: ene1980 on November 12, 2019, 10:25:14 AM

Quote from: YuginKadoya on November 12, 2019, 08:39:13 AM

But yes I also want to see a Zabit VS Yair fight as well and rooting for that day to come.

Since Max Holloway has an opponent to face in Alexander Volkanovski which is scheduled for the December card we might see Zabit Magomedsharipov and Yair Rodriguez as they are ranked 5 and 6 respectively and any fight with these two opponents will be a spectacle for the audience as you will see many unorthodox techniques.

Quote from: 7788bitcoin on November 12, 2019, 08:59:58 AM

The card is having all the veterans fighting to make money and hence no one is interested in these fights Cheesy

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Since this is a Brazilian even you will see many fan favorites in the event and in the main event Jan Blachowicz is the favorite as Ronaldo Souza is moving up in weight.

Well, if there are surely a big chance for a Zabit Magomedsharipov VS Yair Rodriguez fight then that will be great and I think that there are fans that are very likely to have this fight, but I am having a doubt if Zabit can have a solution with his Cardio then I guess he would likely have a fighting chance against Yair Rodriguez, but that will be a lovely fight to watch.

Quote from: TopTort777 on November 12, 2019, 04:19:19 PM

Let me start

Date   November 16, 2019
Venue   Ginásio do Ibirapuera
City   São Paulo, Brazil

Fight Card (ESPN+)

Light Heavyweight   Jan Błachowicz   vs.   Ronaldo Souza

In this fight I think that I have seen an article about Souza's Mental Health that he nearly quits UFC even though they are saying that this issue has been taken care off, I think there will still be a problem with Souza's performance, while in the other hand Blachowicz’s is a fairly durable fighter that can surely take Souza on in my opinion, And maybe Blachowicz’s can have an advantage in this fight.

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