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Quote from: tokeweed on September 05, 2019, 10:09:38 AM

Hmmmm... Lots of money piling into Khabib. Poirier's line is up at 4.60 now from 4.33 just a day ago (FJ odds). I think it would've been better to wait til the weekend to get more value. Oh well. Wink

UFC 242: Embedded Episode 3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PewwspWECi8

The Over/Under is listed at 4.5 ROUNDS but I am seeing alot of people predicting a 5 ROUND battle
"THE DIAMOND" has only been submitted 1 time in his entire career back in 2012 (which happened to occur in ROUND 4)
This is a difficult fight to predict how it will play out but I am not confident in HABIB enough for that price.

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Quote from: nydiacaskey01 on September 05, 2019, 11:37:11 AM

UFC 243 is still far from today but when I checked Nitrogensports and see the odds between Adesanya vs Whittaker, I was surprised to see the odds for Adesanya at +124 while Whittaker is at -140 meaning Adesanya is the underdog in this match. I am a fan of Adesansya and I haven't watched any fight of Whittaker, but I think as the fight draws near, odds will be different or tables might be turned.

Robert is slugger and battle tested. He narrowly won against Yoel (although I thought Yoel won that fight). Maybe it's the experience that made him the favorite at the moment. Israel is a better fighter technically imo and I do agree that the odds will be in his favor a few days from now.

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UFC 243 is still far from today but when I checked Nitrogensports and see the odds between Adesanya vs Whittaker, I was surprised to see the odds for Adesanya at +124 while Whittaker is at -140 meaning Adesanya is the underdog in this match. I am a fan of Adesansya and I haven't watched any fight of Whittaker, but I think as the fight draws near, odds will be different or tables might be turned.

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Hmmmm... Lots of money piling into Khabib. Poirier's line is up at 4.60 now from 4.33 just a day ago (FJ odds). I think it would've been better to wait til the weekend to get more value. Oh well. Wink

UFC 242: Embedded Episode 3
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Quote from: Juggy777 on September 02, 2019, 09:34:36 PM

I feel Khabib should easily win this match and I’m planning to place few bucks on him, as I feel this match’s result is easy to predict.

I think this match will end with rear naked choke. Try to find few more bucks and bet on a choke or at least by a submission

Quote from: DeathAngel on September 03, 2019, 07:11:41 AM

Sadly I think Khabib will win again because his boring style is so effective.

Ben Askren also uses boring wrestling +gnp style, but had lost by a knee to the chin (The Fastest Knockout In UFC History https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=leAA3_zZNW8). Khabibs boring style can be countered by that.

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@pereira4. However, Dustin Poirier has the power. 50% of his fights were knockouts and technical knockouts, his fighting style is to stand in front and throw power punches. Also, Conor fought the younger versions of Dustin and Max Holloway. If they fight Conor today, they would beat him.

Khabib can also weaken on the 4th and 5th rounds similar to his fight versus Al Iaquinta.

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Quote from: Astargath on September 04, 2019, 06:30:02 PM

I am hearing all these lame excuses about Conor McGregor not in his

To be honest I also think Mcgregor was in pretty bad shape after not fighting for 2 years, it's only expected. It doesn't matter if no one forced him to fight, facts are facts, clearly he was not in his best shape.

He is not in bad shape, its just that his skills is not at par with Khabib at that time. His ground and pound skills doesnt match Khabibs and for me he is good a standing up, he is fast but not as fast as Khabib. I rewatched Khabibs previous fights and compare how Conor fights and even on the day that they fought Conor is really no match with Khabib. Conor can study and adjust to the fighting style of his opponents and so is Khabib and he did it really fast.

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Quote from: ene1980 on September 04, 2019, 05:10:31 PM

Quote from: Bardman on September 04, 2019, 02:04:57 PM

So really the only main disadvantage of Poirier over Mcgregor is the striking power and skill, however, I don't think Mcgregor was in his best shape at all when he fought Khabib, I'm sure the fight will be a bit closer but Khabib is winning anyhow.

I am hearing all these lame excuses about Conor McGregor not in his best shape when he fought Khabib, no one forced Conor McGregor to fight Khabib as he had more money in his bank account and with is business flourishing there is no point in returning if you are not prepared to take on an undefeated wrestler and he did not back up his big words before the fight and was completely humiliated and now his fans cannot accept the defeat which is cringe worthy Tongue

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The main difference is Dustin Poirier learns with every fight and adjust according to his opponent but Conor just have the same style since i started watching him fight and not much improvement either.

To be honest I also think Mcgregor was in pretty bad shape after not fighting for 2 years, it's only expected. It doesn't matter if no one forced him to fight, facts are facts, clearly he was not in his best shape.

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Quote from: Bardman on September 04, 2019, 02:04:57 PM

So really the only main disadvantage of Poirier over Mcgregor is the striking power and skill, however, I don't think Mcgregor was in his best shape at all when he fought Khabib, I'm sure the fight will be a bit closer but Khabib is winning anyhow.

I am hearing all these lame excuses about Conor McGregor not in his best shape when he fought Khabib, no one forced Conor McGregor to fight Khabib as he had more money in his bank account and with is business flourishing there is no point in returning if you are not prepared to take on an undefeated wrestler and he did not back up his big words before the fight and was completely humiliated and now his fans cannot accept the defeat which is cringe worthy Tongue

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The main difference is Dustin Poirier learns with every fight and adjust according to his opponent but Conor just have the same style since i started watching him fight and not much improvement either.

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Quote from: tokeweed on September 04, 2019, 08:03:37 AM

^ McGregor was fatigued by the third round. I don't think Poirier gets tired that easy. He's def a live dog.

Anyway you guys should watch the free fight below in case you haven't yet. It's an upset. Wink

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UFC 242: Embedded Episode 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIt1OdeuLdE

UFC 242: Free Fight - Poirier vs Holloway
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KeRz5GiXTiI

True, the way I see it is:

Mcgregor: Best striker, gets tired easily, better than average takedown defense.

Poirier: Good striker but definitely worse than Mcgregor, doesn't get tired, really good takedown defense.

So really the only main disadvantage of Poirier over Mcgregor is the striking power and skill, however, I don't think Mcgregor was in his best shape at all when he fought Khabib, I'm sure the fight will be a bit closer but Khabib is winning anyhow.

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^ McGregor was fatigued by the third round. I don't think Poirier gets tired that easy. He's def a live dog.

Anyway you guys should watch the free fight below in case you haven't yet. It's an upset. Wink

I could happen again...

UFC 242: Embedded Episode 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIt1OdeuLdE

UFC 242: Free Fight - Poirier vs Holloway
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KeRz5GiXTiI

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Well, all the predictions are on khabib because of his style of fighting on the floor he's so strong and smart we watched how he won against mc gregor and many good fighters. But i hope we will see something different this time at least a good fight because to beat khabib you need a miracle.

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Quote from: btc_angela on September 03, 2019, 05:22:30 AM

but when Khabib takes him down then it's over.

Is there a fighter in the entire division that could prevent a take down from Khabib, i really do not think so as he could take down any fighter on the ground, if he moves up a division then it might be a different story, but for now i really do not think that anyone could defend a take down from Khabib and the fight that all the fans around the world are looking for a show down against Tony who has insane cardio and good ground game and the interesting part is that what will Tony do to counter Khabib's ground game.

In short Khabib is a real SOB and someone needs to pull a miracle to defeat Khabib in his prime Cheesy

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Quote from: DeathAngel on September 03, 2019, 07:11:41 AM

Really hope Khabib loses this weekend, I’m sick of his boring style, hugging his way to every single victory on the floor. I enjoy watching men fight not roll around on the floor hugging each other.

Sadly I think Khabib will win again because his boring style is so effective.

Well, he dominates his opponents, not really hugging when you are getting destroyed on the ground, the thing is, Khabib doesn't seem to have a strong punch/kick power, he always dominates his opponents on the ground but almost never KO's anyone, which is really hard considering how much damage they receive on the ground. Poirier is not going to win though, if Mcgregor wasn't able to beat Khabib, there is no way Poirier will.

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^ Yup me too... I put some action on Poirier at 4.33 at FJ (it's actually better than Nitrogen's line for the first time). I'm hoping for a bad Khabib weight cut which as happened 4 - 5 times in the past.

Anyway here are some vids to watch. You guys should def watch the fight replays.

UFC 242: Countdown
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRGLwRZnwKs

UFC 242: Embedded Episode 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byTKZayDF_0

UFC 242: Free Fight - Khabib vs McGregor
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVIcNzhytXo

UFC 242: Free Fight - Poirier vs Gaethje
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlGY4Q1n2Hc

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Really hope Khabib loses this weekend, I’m sick of his boring style, hugging his way to every single victory on the floor. I enjoy watching men fight not roll around on the floor hugging each other.

Sadly I think Khabib will win again because his boring style is so effective.

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Quote from: ene1980 on September 03, 2019, 03:38:10 AM

Quote from: rosezionjohn on September 03, 2019, 02:09:07 AM

Listened to Dan Hardy's breakdown and I kinda like Dustin's chances here. He should be the one pressing the action and not simply reacting to Khabib's move if he ever wants to win this championship match. He can also take advantage of the Khabib's possible "ring rust" from months of layoff.

I usually like his break downs but most of his predictions never come true and you can go back and watch all of his analysis in the past, there is no ring rust for Khabib, he is not known as a party animal who goes out of shape if he is not fighting, he always spars even if he is not fighting and that is his life style and you cannot match that, he is a complete animal unless there is a freak knockout i do not see Dustin defeating Khabib, i see him mauling in the first two rounds and then he might stand up with Dustin for the third round and then go for the submission.

Definitely a fighter who hasn't fought for months or years in the octagon could have ring rust issues. However, elite fighters have the ability to shrug it off as soon as they got the fell of the environment. Specially if Khabib can somewhat caught by Justin, his instinct will be back for sure. And I also agree that Dustin has a slim change against Khabib. Probably will go for KO early but when Khabib takes him down then it's over.

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Quote from: ene1980 on September 03, 2019, 03:38:10 AM

I usually like his break downs but most of his predictions never come true and you can go back and watch all of his analysis in the past, there is no ring rust for Khabib, he is not known as a party animal who goes out of shape if he is not fighting, he always spars even if he is not fighting and that is his life style and you cannot match that, he is a complete animal unless there is a freak knockout i do not see Dustin defeating Khabib, i see him mauling in the first two rounds and then he might stand up with Dustin for the third round and then go for the submission.

I don't really listen much to anyone's prediction, it was the breakdown that I commended. I'm not sure about having no ring rust at all, I believe it's always there. It's just that some fighters like Nate Diaz are really good at shaking it off quickly. There is no doubt that Khabib is a beast and his MMA record clearly shows that but, as you said, a perfectly placed punch from Dustin can end that perfect record of his.

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Quote from: rosezionjohn on September 03, 2019, 02:09:07 AM

Listened to Dan Hardy's breakdown and I kinda like Dustin's chances here. He should be the one pressing the action and not simply reacting to Khabib's move if he ever wants to win this championship match. He can also take advantage of the Khabib's possible "ring rust" from months of layoff.

I usually like his break downs but most of his predictions never come true and you can go back and watch all of his analysis in the past, there is no ring rust for Khabib, he is not known as a party animal who goes out of shape if he is not fighting, he always spars even if he is not fighting and that is his life style and you cannot match that, he is a complete animal unless there is a freak knockout i do not see Dustin defeating Khabib, i see him mauling in the first two rounds and then he might stand up with Dustin for the third round and then go for the submission.

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