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Quote from: Astargath on August 18, 2019, 01:22:14 PM

I'm really stoked for khabib vs poirier although I don't think poirier has any real chance, I mean he lost badly against Mcgregor, how is he going to win against Khabib? He doesn't have better wrestling and his stand up skills are perhaps a bit better but still, seems extremely unlikely.

Dustin is surely the underdog in this fight but the analogy of A beating B then C beating A, therefore C will beat B does not apply here. Different fighter, different style, new adjustments. He's also made some improvements that's why he is now in this position.

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I'm really stoked for khabib vs poirier although I don't think poirier has any real chance, I mean he lost badly against Mcgregor, how is he going to win against Khabib? He doesn't have better wrestling and his stand up skills are perhaps a bit better but still, seems extremely unlikely.

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The Miocic-Cormier 2 was really the highlight of UFC 241. Both fighters were just rolling through the punches and it was an awesome slugfest. Cormier may have spent too much energy trying to finish Miocic early and he could no longer sustain it in the championship rounds. Great strategy and thinking for Miocic going to the body.

The Diaz-Pettis did not live up to the hype I think.

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Quote from: tokeweed on August 18, 2019, 08:07:12 AM

Quote from: Baofeng on August 18, 2019, 12:55:31 AM

And the results are in:

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Stipe Miocic (c) def. Daniel Cormier via fourth-round TKO (punches)
Nate Diaz def. Anthony Pettis via unanimous decision (30-27, 30-27, 29-28)
Paulo Costa def. Yoel Romero via unanimous decision (29-28, 29-28, 29-28)
Sodiq Yusuff def. Gabriel Benitez via first-round TKO (punches)
Derek Brunson def. Ian Heinisch via unanimous decision (29-28, 29-28, 29-28)
Khama Worthy def. Devonte Smith via first-round TKO (punches)
Cory Sandhagen def. Raphael Assuncao via unanimous decision (30-27, 30-27, 29-28)
Drakkar Klose def. Christos Giagos via unanimous decision (29-28, 29-28, 29-28)
Casey Kenney def. Manny Bermudez via unanimous decision (29-28, 29-28, 29-28)

Source: https://www.cbssports.com/mma/news/ufc-241-results-highlights-stipe-miocic-rallies-to-tko-daniel-cormier-regain-heavyweight-title/

@tokeweed - how much you won on Stipe? Grin

. From day one you have been talking about Stipe taking this one so I assume you made a significant bet. Good call!!

I think its more of DC getting tired and gassing out and Miocic taking advantage of it. The landscape has change again with this win and more story board (I'm sounding like @bbc.reporter here Cheesy

) branching out.

Congrats to those who won in this event.

I dropped hints on Diaz too. Lol. Wink

I don't bet that huge, so nothing to brag.

And you have to give Miocic some credit... He did start going for the body as an adjustment and it worked.

UFC 241: Post Fight Press Conference
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lV3v6H7-Ecs

Yep, those body punches made huge difference.

In the first 15 minutes Miocic made only 15 successful body punches, while in 4th round alone he managed to made 14 body punches, and we saw the result.

Based on the hits received difference, this is 2nd best comeback. Out of 263 attempts, Cormier made
181 hit, while Miocic had 123 successful hits out of 229 attempts. So Miocic received 58 hits more and still managed to survive all that and even win.
Only bigger comeback was in UFC 117 when Anderson Silva beat Sonnen.

I think this might be end of Cormier career, maybe he should have step down as a champion, but then again, he obviously didn't want to calculate and kudos to that, he showed that he is(was) real champion and that's why he is considered as one of the greatest fighters in UFC history.

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Quote from: Baofeng on August 18, 2019, 12:55:31 AM

And the results are in:

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Stipe Miocic (c) def. Daniel Cormier via fourth-round TKO (punches)
Nate Diaz def. Anthony Pettis via unanimous decision (30-27, 30-27, 29-28)
Paulo Costa def. Yoel Romero via unanimous decision (29-28, 29-28, 29-28)
Sodiq Yusuff def. Gabriel Benitez via first-round TKO (punches)
Derek Brunson def. Ian Heinisch via unanimous decision (29-28, 29-28, 29-28)
Khama Worthy def. Devonte Smith via first-round TKO (punches)
Cory Sandhagen def. Raphael Assuncao via unanimous decision (30-27, 30-27, 29-28)
Drakkar Klose def. Christos Giagos via unanimous decision (29-28, 29-28, 29-28)
Casey Kenney def. Manny Bermudez via unanimous decision (29-28, 29-28, 29-28)

Source: https://www.cbssports.com/mma/news/ufc-241-results-highlights-stipe-miocic-rallies-to-tko-daniel-cormier-regain-heavyweight-title/

@tokeweed - how much you won on Stipe? Grin

. From day one you have been talking about Stipe taking this one so I assume you made a significant bet. Good call!!

I think its more of DC getting tired and gassing out and Miocic taking advantage of it. The landscape has change again with this win and more story board (I'm sounding like @bbc.reporter here Cheesy

) branching out.

Congrats to those who won in this event.

I dropped hints on Diaz too. Lol. Wink

I don't bet that huge, so nothing to brag.

And you have to give Miocic some credit... He did start going for the body as an adjustment and it worked.

UFC 241: Post Fight Press Conference
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lV3v6H7-Ecs

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As a Romero fan, I’m disappointed with his lost to Costa. Yoel is a an excellent athlete, but he, somehow, lacks enough stamina...

Is DC going to retire after this fight?

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Quote from: Bttzed03 on August 18, 2019, 01:18:36 AM

I am quite disappointed with the Diaz-Pettis fight. I was expecting some fireworks but it was not the case.
- Pettis looks out of shape and not as explosive
- Diaz fighting smart by clinching and limiting his opponents attacks. He's also thrown more kicks than he usually does.

I was surprised too, i thought that Diaz will be out of shape, outside of the ring he doesn't seems like the brightest bulb but he showed intelligence while Pettis didn't show absolutely anything.

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I am quite disappointed with the Diaz-Pettis fight. I was expecting some fireworks but it was not the case.
- Pettis looks out of shape and not as explosive
- Diaz fighting smart by clinching and limiting his opponents attacks. He's also thrown more kicks than he usually does.

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Quote from: rosezionjohn on August 17, 2019, 03:17:25 AM

Quote from: DiggerMan on August 17, 2019, 01:41:59 AM

That is true, he is not attractive fighter at all, he doesn't cause chaos, he doesn't trashtalk etc, but what i meant is that UFC needs champion like him is more from fans POV. I am sure that i'm not the only one who prefers dignified respectful fighters over loudmouths and clowns.
I miss old school type of fighters like Georges St-Pierre, Fedor Emelianenko and Cro Cop, so for me Miocic is a breath of fresh air.

Some fans prefers the drama while others prefer pure fighting so it's always better to have a good mix of "dignified respectful" and "loudmouthed" fighters. Comier isn't that much of a trash talker either (unless he's fighting Jon Jones) and I don't think "purist" fight fans will have any problem with him winning the title again.

I can agree with that, Cormier is among those fighters.

Excellent Miocic Vs Cormier fight last night , it was pleasure to watch and stay up whole night, especially if you are Miocic fan Cheesy

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The way it started, i thought Miocic won't survive 1st round, Cormier completely dominated the fight, but Miocic showed the toughness and strong chin. Miocic survived all that and lucky for him he found weak spot in the 4th round and managed to finish the fight, KO/TKO was the only way at that point for Miocic to win the fight, if it went up to the judges decision, Cormier would win.

Miocic had excellent cardio, even better that Cormier and we know what kind of beast he is , even though he is already 40 years old.

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And the results are in:

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Stipe Miocic (c) def. Daniel Cormier via fourth-round TKO (punches)
Nate Diaz def. Anthony Pettis via unanimous decision (30-27, 30-27, 29-28)
Paulo Costa def. Yoel Romero via unanimous decision (29-28, 29-28, 29-28)
Sodiq Yusuff def. Gabriel Benitez via first-round TKO (punches)
Derek Brunson def. Ian Heinisch via unanimous decision (29-28, 29-28, 29-28)
Khama Worthy def. Devonte Smith via first-round TKO (punches)
Cory Sandhagen def. Raphael Assuncao via unanimous decision (30-27, 30-27, 29-28)
Drakkar Klose def. Christos Giagos via unanimous decision (29-28, 29-28, 29-28)
Casey Kenney def. Manny Bermudez via unanimous decision (29-28, 29-28, 29-28)

Source: https://www.cbssports.com/mma/news/ufc-241-results-highlights-stipe-miocic-rallies-to-tko-daniel-cormier-regain-heavyweight-title/

@tokeweed - how much you won on Stipe? Grin

. From day one you have been talking about Stipe taking this one so I assume you made a significant bet. Good call!!

I think its more of DC getting tired and gassing out and Miocic taking advantage of it. The landscape has change again with this win and more story board (I'm sounding like @bbc.reporter here Cheesy

) branching out.

Congrats to those who won in this event.

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Quote from: mich on August 16, 2019, 03:13:07 PM

UFC 241 Main Card | 10:00 pm ET on PPV
Champ Daniel Cormier[/b] (236.5) vs. Stipe Miocic (230.5) – for heavyweight title
Nate Diaz (170) vs. Anthony Pettis (169.5)
Paulo Costa (186) vs. Yoel Romero (184.5)
Gabriel Benitez (146) vs. Sodiq Yusuff (145)
Derek Brunson (186) vs. Ian Heinisch (185.5)

UFC 241 Prelims | 8:00 pm ET on ESPN
Devonte Smith (156) vs. Khama Worthy (155.5)
Raphael Assuncao (136) vs. Cory Sandhagen (136)
Christos Giagos (155) vs. Drakkar Klose (155.5)
Manny Bermudez (140) vs. Casey Kenney (139)*

UFC 241 Early Prelims | 6:15 pm ET on UFC Fight Pass/ESPN+
Hannah Cifers (114.5) vs. Jodie Esquibel (115)
Brandon Davis (136) vs. Kyung Ho Kang (136)
Shana Dobson (124.5) vs. Sabina Mazo (126)

Maybe we will see some dogs barking tomorrow night Tongue

Diaz looks extra ripped for this bout. And yup, a Diaz and Pettis dog fight!

UFC 241: Weigh In
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Qo5Vke8kEM

UFC 241: Embedded Episode 6
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PGTZ14_zRM

UFC 241: Embedded Episode 7
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WmbU_MudfY

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Quote from: DiggerMan on August 17, 2019, 01:41:59 AM

That is true, he is not attractive fighter at all, he doesn't cause chaos, he doesn't trashtalk etc, but what i meant is that UFC needs champion like him is more from fans POV. I am sure that i'm not the only one who prefers dignified respectful fighters over loudmouths and clowns.
I miss old school type of fighters like Georges St-Pierre, Fedor Emelianenko and Cro Cop, so for me Miocic is a breath of fresh air.

Some fans prefers the drama while others prefer pure fighting so it's always better to have a good mix of "dignified respectful" and "loudmouthed" fighters. Comier isn't that much of a trash talker either (unless he's fighting Jon Jones) and I don't think "purist" fight fans will have any problem with him winning the title again.

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Quote from: mich on August 16, 2019, 03:25:57 PM

Quote from: DiggerMan on August 16, 2019, 03:18:29 PM

I have to agree about Miocic vs Cormier fight. While i am Miocic fan, and i think UFC needs champions like him, Cormier is simply better fighter and my money is on him.But of course, this is UFC, anything can happen

With his slurred speech and hard to understand accent I dont think UFC will mind too much if hes not the HEAVYWEIGHT Champ Lips sealed

That is true, he is not attractive fighter at all, he doesn't cause chaos, he doesn't trashtalk etc, but what i meant is that UFC needs champion like him is more from fans POV. I am sure that i'm not the only one who prefers dignified respectful fighters over loudmouths and clowns.
I miss old school type of fighters like Georges St-Pierre, Fedor Emelianenko and Cro Cop, so for me Miocic is a breath of fresh air.

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Here are the odds for UFC 241 to be held tomorrow August 17 (18 in the Philippines) at the Honda Center Anaheim, California

Fight Card (ESPN+)

Daniel Cormier (-139) vs. Stipe Miocic (+122)
Anthony Pettis (-134) vs. Nate Diaz (+119)
Yoel Romero (-134) vs. Paulo Costa (+119)
Gabriel Benítez   (+225) vs. Sodiq Yusuff (-267)
Derek Brunson (+126) vs. Ian Heinisch (-142)

Preliminary Card (ESPN)
Devonte Smith (-971) vs. Khama Worthy (+649)
Raphael Assunção (+180) vs. Cory Sandhagen (-209)
Christos Giagos   (+150) vs. Drakkar Klose (-172)
Manny Bermudez (-156) vs. Casey Kenney (+137)

Early Preliminary Card (UFC Fight Pass)
Hannah Cifers (-287) vs. Jodie Esquibel (+240)
Kyung Ho Kang (-202) vs. Brandon Davis (+175)
Sabina Mazo (-124) vs. Shana Dobson (+110)

*odds courtesy of Nitrogensports

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Quote from: nydiacaskey01 on August 15, 2019, 05:45:11 PM

Last fight of Nate Diaz was at UFC 202 last August 20, 2016 when he fought Conor Mcgregor for the second time. Thats exactly 2 years and 11 months and 26 days today. While Anthony Pettis is still active in the octagon and his last fight was March 23, 2019 at UFC Fight Night versus Thompson. Diaz being absent in the octagon for quite sometime may have an effect on this fight.

unfortunately i think you're right, the inactivity, the distance from the fighting will be felt, so even if i believe I believe that Diaz is a better fighter, i think it will lose against Pettis...

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Quote from: DiggerMan on August 16, 2019, 03:18:29 PM

I have to agree about Miocic vs Cormier fight. While i am Miocic fan, and i think UFC needs champions like him, Cormier is simply better fighter and my money is on him.But of course, this is UFC, anything can happen

With his slurred speech and hard to understand accent I dont think UFC will mind too much if hes not the HEAVYWEIGHT Champ Lips sealed

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Quote from: Cloudbet on August 14, 2019, 06:15:42 AM

Looking forward to this weekend Grin

I'm actually quite a fan of Miocic, he's the only heavyweight champion that I can remember defending his title three times (Overeem, Santos, and Ngannou) but I think he's going to be outmatched against Cormier. DC has faster hands and although Miocic has a boxing pedigree he can't hope to compete on the wrestling side.

Going to go with Cormier to win via KO, probably in the 2nd or 3rd.

As for Pettis v Diaz I'm fairly confident in Diaz taking the win, but it's probably going to be more of a drawn-out fight.

Pettis is arguably the harder hitter, but Diaz has speed on his side and tends to lure opponents into the kind of slug-fest he thrives in.

I'm going for a Diaz victory via decision, unless Pettis can utilise his BJJ/wrestling skills to bring Diaz to ground.

You can check out our odds for the weekend's action here.

I have to agree about Miocic vs Cormier fight. While i am Miocic fan, and i think UFC needs champions like him, Cormier is simply better fighter and my money is on him.But of course, this is UFC, anything can happen.

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UFC 241 Main Card | 10:00 pm ET on PPV
Champ Daniel Cormier[/b] (236.5) vs. Stipe Miocic (230.5) – for heavyweight title
Nate Diaz (170) vs. Anthony Pettis (169.5)
Paulo Costa (186) vs. Yoel Romero (184.5)
Gabriel Benitez (146) vs. Sodiq Yusuff (145)
Derek Brunson (186) vs. Ian Heinisch (185.5)

UFC 241 Prelims | 8:00 pm ET on ESPN
Devonte Smith (156) vs. Khama Worthy (155.5)
Raphael Assuncao (136) vs. Cory Sandhagen (136)
Christos Giagos (155) vs. Drakkar Klose (155.5)
Manny Bermudez (140) vs. Casey Kenney (139)*

UFC 241 Early Prelims | 6:15 pm ET on UFC Fight Pass/ESPN+
Hannah Cifers (114.5) vs. Jodie Esquibel (115)
Brandon Davis (136) vs. Kyung Ho Kang (136)
Shana Dobson (124.5) vs. Sabina Mazo (126)

Maybe we will see some dogs barking tomorrow night Tongue

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Quote from: mich on August 15, 2019, 05:31:12 PM

UFC 241 Embedded: Vlog Series - Episode 4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2dFg6W9BpA

UFC 241 Embedded: Vlog Series - Episode 5
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcK_Rs3ykBY

Cormier looks slow doing the mits... Uh oh. Grin

Quote from: mich on August 15, 2019, 05:55:59 PM

Quote from: nydiacaskey01 on August 15, 2019, 05:45:11 PM

Last fight of Nate Diaz was at UFC 202 last August 20, 2016 when he fought Conor Mcgregor for the second time. Thats exactly 2 years and 11 months and 26 days today. While Anthony Pettis is still active in the octagon and his last fight was March 23, 2019 at UFC Fight Night versus Thompson. Diaz being absent in the octagon for quite sometime may have an effect on this fight.

After witnessing DIAZ light up and smoke the Marijuana joint, it makes me wonder if he is in good enough condition to go for 15 minutes against pressure fighter like AP! Lips sealed

I wish him to win hes got my money

Pretty sure weed will help his lung capacity. Do a search on 'cannabis and lung capacity. Lolol. Grin

But he better make sure he doesn't do any ballet moves in the cage or something. Cheesy

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Quote from: nydiacaskey01 on August 15, 2019, 06:14:30 PM

Quote from: mich on August 15, 2019, 05:55:59 PM

Quote from: nydiacaskey01 on August 15, 2019, 05:45:11 PM

Last fight of Nate Diaz was at UFC 202 last August 20, 2016 when he fought Conor Mcgregor for the second time. Thats exactly 2 years and 11 months and 26 days today. While Anthony Pettis is still active in the octagon and his last fight was March 23, 2019 at UFC Fight Night versus Thompson. Diaz being absent in the octagon for quite sometime may have an effect on this fight.

After witnessing DIAZ light up and smoke the Marijuana joint, it makes me wonder if he is in good enough condition to go for 15 minutes against pressure fighter like AP! Lips sealed

I wish him to win hes got my money

Did you pick nate Diaz because you believe he can pull a win on this fight or you believe in his skills or you pick him because of the odds given to him and how much you can win when when he also win this fight? Current odds for Pettis and Diaz is -129 for Anthony Pettis and +115 for Nate Diaz.

I only put a small amount on DIAZ since he is a underdog but he been out of ring for like 3 years so we dont know how he will perform

DC sounds confident here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwTIw3vnix8

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