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Quote from: rosezionjohn on September 30, 2019, 10:07:04 PM

This GSP vs. Khabib again.

GSP is getting older so don't expect him to push himself again to fight at 155. He doesn't need this fight. He is open for it but he would not lose sleep if the fight doesn't materialize due to the weight terms. Khabib, on the other hand, can easily move up in weight to make this happen. I'm pretty sure the contract would have been signed already if only the the fighters, not including UFC and the managers, will talk.

I reckon that it might take 6 months or more for an older fighter like him. Also, not only to lose the weight but lose it and be in the best fighting condition.

@seoincorporation. Khabib will handle and smesh Nate for 5 rounds hehehe.

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Here are the odds for UFC 243. I took this from Nitrogensports

Main Card
Robert Whittaker (-106) vs Israel Adesanya (-106)
Al Iaquinta (+145) vs Dan Hooker (-166)
Tai Tuivasa (-120) vs Sergey Spivac (+315)
Luke Jumeau (+133) vs Dhiego Lima (-151)

Preliminary Card
Jake Matthews (-287) vs Rostem Akman (+239)
Justin Tafa (-120) vs Yorgan De Castro (+106)
Callan Potter (+250) vs Maki Pitolo (-301)
Megan Anderson (-526) vs Zarah Fairn dos Santos (+385)

Early Prelims
Jamie Mullarkey (+135) vs Brad Riddell (-154)
Nadia Kassem (+150) vs Ji Yeon Kim (-172)
Khalid Taha (-234) vs Bruno Silva (+200)

Both Wittaker and Adesanya at -106 so its up to you guys to decide which one is which.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on October 01, 2019, 02:19:22 PM

Btw, who besides Ferguson can now stop Khabib in his division? Some other wrestler, but not striker?
(Lets not be limited with UFC, maybe other fighting organisation fighter are also able to stop him)

I think Nate Diaz can choke khabib just like he did with Conor Mac Gregor. I think is the only one who can beat him right now.

And if we are not limited with UFC i would pay my soul to see a fight between khabib and Mayweather under box stile, that would be awesome too see for sure and hard to know where to place the bet.

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Btw, who besides Ferguson can now stop Khabib in his division? Some other wrestler, but not striker?
(Lets not be limited with UFC, maybe other fighting organisation fighter are also able to stop him)

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Quote from: TopTort777 on October 01, 2019, 07:09:41 AM

Quote from: rosezionjohn on September 30, 2019, 10:07:04 PM

This GSP vs. Khabib again.

Khabib vs GSP or Khabib vs Ferguson - Khabib can fight anyone and in any division, but it is all about Ali Abdelaziz and Dana Cheesy

Quote from: tokeweed on October 01, 2019, 07:08:40 AM

^ Don't know about that but yeah... The main event is gonna be great. The other match ups kinda suck tho.

Time to suck you guys in... Watch the vlog series.

UFC 243: Embedded - Episode 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgrLQQlfbwk

According to the video, he's got 3 girls (lucky father), but according to wiki 2 sons and a girl Grin

If Khabib doesn't fight GSP next it will be %100 because of Ali Abdelaziz. He wants to avoid Tony Fergusson at all costs, he wants to keep Khabib undefeated and hope that Tony Fergusson ends up becoming tired of the long wait, picks up a fight with someone else and then the case for a tittle shot against Khabib is gone, similar to how the case for Jones vs DC 3 is now gone. Things change fast in this business.

Bookies are dreaming with a Fergusson vs Khabib fight and those guys are giving us delay after delay. Let's just hope Dana is right and they are working now on the match, because that is what he said according to latest news. Im almost 100% sure we'll see it in 2020 Q2 or so.

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Quote from: eaLiTy on September 29, 2019, 05:39:41 PM

Quote from: YuginKadoya on September 29, 2019, 01:21:31 PM

I consider my self as just a fan of his technique and the beautiful performance he is showing inside the ring is superb I am really amazed by his performance and submission lockdown, If he would master another art then its probably no one can ever beat him head-on.

MMA classes already named moves after Khabib says it all. He is showing moves that the world have not seen when it comes to grappling balance and techniques.

In my opinion, even if his opponent would study his moves they would just can't take it when it comes to the actual fight Khabib once just have one takedown that he is applying over and over again the one leg takedown but after that move's weakness has been exploited he then change and trained in a different strategy, and wearing off his opponents then taking them down, I guess Khabib is a master and a mystery that even himself could not understand.

Quote from: tokeweed on September 30, 2019, 10:07:10 AM

Main Card (PPV)
Middleweight: Robert Whittaker vs Israel Adesanya

243 this weekend guys! Adesanya's up... Some huge action getting into him. His line went from being a slight underdog at 2.25 down to 1.90ish in two days. I already have action on him the moment it went up at Nitrogen (at 2.24ish then a couple of weeks later at 2.19ish).

Well, This two seems to be the best strikers here on MMA, but I guess Whittaker had the advantage over Adesanya, While I think that Adesanya will sure struggles here and we are seeing that Whittaker is more deeply-skilled boxer and more adaptive than Gastelum which Adesanta Struggles with, I think Whittaker had a wide understanding for pressure than Gastelum, So Adesanya may had a hard time against him.

But Adesanya can take his advantage to Whittaker by giving him leg kicks and fighting Whittaker outside but I think this could not take long and Whittaker can take the frame for it and could even take out the pace because his the better athlete and may enter Adesanya's Territory, So I think Adesanya may rest the belt to Whittaker this time, So I will go for Robert Whittaker winning this.

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You can watch Israel Adesanya short pre-match interview he gave to ESPN MMA.
He is comparing himself as Deadpool of MMA Grin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTcE-O-9c4U

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Quote from: rosezionjohn on September 30, 2019, 10:07:04 PM

This GSP vs. Khabib again.

Khabib vs GSP or Khabib vs Ferguson - Khabib can fight anyone and in any division, but it is all about Ali Abdelaziz and Dana Cheesy

Quote from: tokeweed on October 01, 2019, 07:08:40 AM

^ Don't know about that but yeah... The main event is gonna be great. The other match ups kinda suck tho.

Time to suck you guys in... Watch the vlog series.

UFC 243: Embedded - Episode 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgrLQQlfbwk

According to the video, he's got 3 girls (lucky father), but according to wiki 2 sons and a girl Grin

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^ Don't know about that but yeah... The main event is gonna be great. The other match ups kinda suck tho.

Time to suck you guys in... Watch the vlog series.

UFC 243: Embedded - Episode 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgrLQQlfbwk

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Robert Whittaker vs Israel Adesanya Is going to be great fight I am sure
I will go with Adesanya as I said before.

Do you know what website (crypto only) is offering best odds for him to win??

We should also not forget about Al Iaquinta vs Dan Hooker.

PS
Who needs McGregor when we have this event Grin

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This GSP vs. Khabib again.

GSP is getting older so don't expect him to push himself again to fight at 155. He doesn't need this fight. He is open for it but he would not lose sleep if the fight doesn't materialize due to the weight terms. Khabib, on the other hand, can easily move up in weight to make this happen. I'm pretty sure the contract would have been signed already if only the the fighters, not including UFC and the managers, will talk.

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Quote from: senne on September 30, 2019, 09:34:33 AM

But hopefully we get to see the next best contender, Tony Ferguson take on Khabib in the near future.

Tony Ferguson is the rightful contender to fight Khabib and we already waited a very long time to see this fight happen, four times this match up got cancelled and this is the fight all the real fans are waiting to see. I am curious to see how Tony will deal with the pressure of Khabib and whether he can pull any BJJ moves on the ground and how Khabib will counter those.

Quote from: Bttzed03 on September 30, 2019, 09:43:29 AM

Khabib wants to increase his chances of winning. The UFC is favoring his terms and that is understandable because UFC would lose more if GSP defeats Khabib at a catch weight (say 170). GSP isn't interested in a rematch. He just wants to fight one more time and that's it for him whether he wins or loses.

Khabib started this topic of facing GSP as even Khabib considers him as the greatest fighter and the dream scenario will be if GSP cannot cut weight and go down to 155 pounds, he has to return for a couple of fights, challenge the 170 pound champion win the belt and Khabib and GSP battling for the belt at 170 pounds Cheesy

. With or without belt i would like to see this fight but if Khabib has to move up in weight there are many fights everyone would like to watch as there are many worthy contenders. So i am sure Khabib and his management team will make a wise decision on that.

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^ Finally a UFC 243 week. I cannot believe UFC made us watch two fight nights before this event.

Israel is really confident as he should. He just have to be careful not to be overconfident and underestimate Robert's power.

Expecting the line to go up more for Israel as the event gets closer and closer.

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Date: Saturday, October 5
Main Card (PPV): 22:00 EST
Preliminary Card (ESPN): 20:00 EST
Early Prelims (UFC Fight Pass): 18:15 EST
Venue: Marvel Stadium, Melbourne Australia

Main Card (PPV)
Middleweight: Robert Whittaker vs Israel Adesanya
Lightweight: Al Iaquinta vs Dan Hooker
Heavyweight: Tai Tuivasa vs Sergey Spivac
Welterweight: Luke Jumeau vs Dhiego Lima

Preliminary Card (ESPN)
Welterweight: Jake Matthews vs Rostem Akman
Heavyweight: Justin Tafa vs Yorgan De Castro
Welterweight: Callan Potter vs Maki Pitolo
Women’s Featherweight: Megan Anderson vs Zarah Fairn dos Santos

Early Prelims (UFC Fight Pass)
Lightweight: Jamie Mullarkey vs Brad Riddell
Women’s Flyweight: Nadia Kassem vs Ji Yeon Kim
Bantamweight: Khalid Taha vs Bruno Silva

All info from Wikipedia: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/UFC_243

243 this weekend guys! Adesanya's up... Some huge action getting into him. His line went from being a slight underdog at 2.25 down to 1.90ish in two days. I already have action on him the moment it went up at Nitrogen (at 2.24ish then a couple of weeks later at 2.19ish).

Edit: Some vids...

UFC 243: Countdown
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIpaYkjgpvs

UFC 243: Free Fight - Adesanya vs Gastelum
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZey74PBRTk

UFC 243: Free Fight - Whitaker vs Romero 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KffOZiww4oc

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Quote from: eaLiTy on September 29, 2019, 05:39:41 PM

Quote from: Sahyadri on September 29, 2019, 03:42:34 PM

I think GSP would be a really good matchup for Khabib but the weight at which the fight would take place is debatable as 170 might favour GSP while 155 would be a very tough weight cut for GSP and favourable for khabib. But no doubt toughest style matchup for Khabib.

All the fans are waiting to see this match up and i hope UFC can make that happen, fun fact is that GSP walks around 190 pounds and Khabib also walks around that weight when he is not fighting but Khabib is not planning to fight GSP above his weight class.
If Khabib is not ready to go up in weight class to fight GSP, not sure GSP is willing to come down to 155 pounds either.

Khabib wants to increase his chances of winning. The UFC is favoring his terms and that is understandable because UFC would lose more if GSP defeats Khabib at a catch weight (say 170). GSP isn't interested in a rematch. He just wants to fight one more time and that's it for him whether he wins or loses.

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Quote from: eaLiTy on September 29, 2019, 05:39:41 PM

Quote from: YuginKadoya on September 29, 2019, 01:21:31 PM

I consider my self as just a fan of his technique and the beautiful performance he is showing inside the ring is superb I am really amazed by his performance and submission lockdown, If he would master another art then its probably no one can ever beat him head-on.

MMA classes already named moves after Khabib says it all. He is showing moves that the world have not seen when it comes to grappling balance and techniques.

Quote from: Sahyadri on September 29, 2019, 03:42:34 PM

I think GSP would be a really good matchup for Khabib but the weight at which the fight would take place is debatable as 170 might favour GSP while 155 would be a very tough weight cut for GSP and favourable for khabib. But no doubt toughest style matchup for Khabib.

All the fans are waiting to see this match up and i hope UFC can make that happen, fun fact is that GSP walks around 190 pounds and Khabib also walks around that weight when he is not fighting but Khabib is not planning to fight GSP above his weight class.
If Khabib is not ready to go up in weight class to fight GSP, not sure GSP is willing to come down to 155 pounds either.

Khabib has already said that he will not move up to 170 and wants GSP to either come down to 155 or meet at 165 for a catchweight bout. I don't think it is likely that this match will happen. But hopefully we get to see the next best contender, Tony Ferguson take on Khabib in the near future.

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Quote from: YuginKadoya on September 29, 2019, 01:21:31 PM

I consider my self as just a fan of his technique and the beautiful performance he is showing inside the ring is superb I am really amazed by his performance and submission lockdown, If he would master another art then its probably no one can ever beat him head-on.

MMA classes already named moves after Khabib says it all. He is showing moves that the world have not seen when it comes to grappling balance and techniques.

Quote from: Sahyadri on September 29, 2019, 03:42:34 PM

I think GSP would be a really good matchup for Khabib but the weight at which the fight would take place is debatable as 170 might favour GSP while 155 would be a very tough weight cut for GSP and favourable for khabib. But no doubt toughest style matchup for Khabib.

All the fans are waiting to see this match up and i hope UFC can make that happen, fun fact is that GSP walks around 190 pounds and Khabib also walks around that weight when he is not fighting but Khabib is not planning to fight GSP above his weight class.
If Khabib is not ready to go up in weight class to fight GSP, not sure GSP is willing to come down to 155 pounds either.

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Quote from: Sahyadri on September 29, 2019, 03:42:34 PM

I think GSP would be a really good matchup for Khabib but the weight at which the fight would take place is debatable as 170 might favour GSP while 155 would be a very tough weight cut for GSP and favourable for khabib. But no doubt toughest style matchup for Khabib.

Why are you talking about GSP, he's retired now. I don't understand, you aren't aware of that or it's a fake news?

Edit: I'm sorry you're right, GSP is officially retired but despite that he could do a super fight against him.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/mma/9974434/ufc-dana-white-khabib-nurmagomedov-georges-st-pierre/

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Quote from: YuginKadoya on September 29, 2019, 01:21:31 PM

Quote from: eaLiTy on September 29, 2019, 09:55:52 AM

Quote from: YuginKadoya on September 29, 2019, 09:40:33 AM

He is great with submission moves, but not as good as Khabib

No one can be Khabib as he is a master in combat Sambo, black belt in Judo and a master in Pankration, i wonder what he can do to others if he masters BJJ too Shocked

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Well, I consider him as the best that is why I am not the biggest fan out there I consider my self as just a fan of his technique and the beautiful performance he is showing inside the ring is superb I am really amazed by his performance and submission lockdown, If he would master another art then its probably no one can ever beat him head-on.

Quote from: notblox1 on September 29, 2019, 10:51:49 AM

I think everyones mission in UFC and whole MMA world is to find a fighter that can beat Khabib Nurmagomedov.
He is strong as a rock, and I don't think this mission will be easy, but in time people will find his weakness and exploit it, or Khabib will maybe retire before that

Maybe he would just retire and no one would put a dent to his 28 wins and still counting, Well, every Khabib match will surely take my eyes on to it that's for sure.

I think GSP would be a really good matchup for Khabib but the weight at which the fight would take place is debatable as 170 might favour GSP while 155 would be a very tough weight cut for GSP and favourable for khabib. But no doubt toughest style matchup for Khabib.

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Lets prepare guys. I am so exited for this event

They just released full video for next UFC 243 Australia
Robert Whittaker, Israel Adesanya, Al Iaquinta, Dan Hooker and more.

UFC 243 Countdown
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIpaYkjgpvs

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