Topic: There IS life after DEATH: Scientists reveal shock findings - page 4. (Read 6495 times)

Well without proof I still believe in the life after death. I believe that heaven and hell exist. So its not a surprise that science can find a proof about it.

LIFE after death has been "confirmed" by scientists who have discovered consciousness continues even once a person has died.



In a large scale study of more than 2,000 people, British boffins confirmed that thoughts DO carry on after the heart stops.

The shock research has also uncovered the most convincing evidence of an out of body experience for a patient declared dead.

It had been believed the brain stopped all activity 30 seconds after the heart had stopped pumping blood around the body, and that with that, awareness ceases too.

However, the study from the University of Southampton shows people still experience awareness for up to three minutes after they had been pronounced dead.


Lead researcher Dr Sam Parnia said: "Contrary to perception, death is not a specific moment but a potentially reversible process that occurs after any severe illness or accident causes the heart, lungs and brain to cease functioning.

"If attempts are made to reverse this process, it is referred to as 'cardiac arrest'; however, if these attempts do not succeed it is called ‘death’."

Of the 2,060 patients from Austria, the US and the UK interviewed for the study who had survived cardiac arrest, almost 40 per cent said that they recall some form of awareness after being pronounced clinically dead.

Dr Parnia continued: "This suggests more people may have mental activity initially but then lose their memories after recovery, either due to the effects of brain injury or sedative drugs on memory recall.”


Of those who said they had experienced some awareness, just two per cent said their experience was consistent with the feeling of an outer body experience – where one feels completely aware and can hear and see what’s going on around them after death.

Almost half of the respondents said the experience was not of awareness, but rather of fear.

However, the most significant finding of the study is that of a 57-year old man who is perhaps the first confirmed outer body experience in a patient.


The man was able to recall with eerie accuracy what was going on around him after he had ‘died’ temporarily.

Dr Parnia continued: "This is significant, since it has often been assumed that experiences in relation to death are likely hallucinations or illusions occurring either before the heart stops or after the heart has been successfully restarted, but not an experience corresponding with 'real' events when the heart isn't beating.

"In this case, consciousness and awareness appeared to occur during a three-minute period when there was no heartbeat.


“This is paradoxical, since the brain typically ceases functioning within 20-30 seconds of the heart stopping and doesn't resume again until the heart has been restarted.

“Furthermore, the detailed recollections of visual awareness in this case were consistent with verified events."


http://www.express.co.uk/news/science/670781/There-IS-life-after-DEATH-Scientists-reveal-shock-findings-from-groundbreaking-study



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Science is settled. Now we can move on and make fun people and destroy the lives of those who do not believe: the deniers...

 

Pretty exciting stuff. Hey that just got me thinking, wouldn't it be awesome if the powers that be found a way to trap this consciousness/soul in the real world and use it as a spiritual battery of sorts?? Might not be that great for the person who died though to not be able to break free and find release even after death.
Oh but wait... the dead can't complain.. right babe??  

Because you fuckers keep running around colluding with each other to tell me how to live and what I believe I have to fight you and counter your bullshit and this happens everywhere, it doesn't matter whether it's Feminists, Islamists, Christians, you're all the fucking same. I think the worst part is above all else that you're actually that arrogant you all think you can tell me what I can and can't do with my own fucking dick.

If you want to have your debates fine, but piss off with your micro-managing bullshit and fanaticism.

So you neurons are firing longer than they initially thought after your heart stops.

You class that as living?

Seems just like a slightly longer descent into nothingness to me.

LIFE after death has been "confirmed" by scientists who have discovered consciousness continues even once a person has died.



In a large scale study of more than 2,000 people, British boffins confirmed that thoughts DO carry on after the heart stops.

The shock research has also uncovered the most convincing evidence of an out of body experience for a patient declared dead.

It had been believed the brain stopped all activity 30 seconds after the heart had stopped pumping blood around the body, and that with that, awareness ceases too.

However, the study from the University of Southampton shows people still experience awareness for up to three minutes after they had been pronounced dead.


Lead researcher Dr Sam Parnia said: "Contrary to perception, death is not a specific moment but a potentially reversible process that occurs after any severe illness or accident causes the heart, lungs and brain to cease functioning.

"If attempts are made to reverse this process, it is referred to as 'cardiac arrest'; however, if these attempts do not succeed it is called ‘death’."

Of the 2,060 patients from Austria, the US and the UK interviewed for the study who had survived cardiac arrest, almost 40 per cent said that they recall some form of awareness after being pronounced clinically dead.

Dr Parnia continued: "This suggests more people may have mental activity initially but then lose their memories after recovery, either due to the effects of brain injury or sedative drugs on memory recall.”


Of those who said they had experienced some awareness, just two per cent said their experience was consistent with the feeling of an outer body experience – where one feels completely aware and can hear and see what’s going on around them after death.

Almost half of the respondents said the experience was not of awareness, but rather of fear.

However, the most significant finding of the study is that of a 57-year old man who is perhaps the first confirmed outer body experience in a patient.


The man was able to recall with eerie accuracy what was going on around him after he had ‘died’ temporarily.

Dr Parnia continued: "This is significant, since it has often been assumed that experiences in relation to death are likely hallucinations or illusions occurring either before the heart stops or after the heart has been successfully restarted, but not an experience corresponding with 'real' events when the heart isn't beating.

"In this case, consciousness and awareness appeared to occur during a three-minute period when there was no heartbeat.


“This is paradoxical, since the brain typically ceases functioning within 20-30 seconds of the heart stopping and doesn't resume again until the heart has been restarted.

“Furthermore, the detailed recollections of visual awareness in this case were consistent with verified events."


http://www.express.co.uk/news/science/670781/There-IS-life-after-DEATH-Scientists-reveal-shock-findings-from-groundbreaking-study



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Science is settled. Now we can move on and make fun people and destroy the lives of those who do not believe: the deniers...

 

If you want to have your debates fine

I have to fight you and counter your bullshit

  at the second to last guy in the Q&A

Exploring Non-local Consciousness



Published on Dec 10, 2014

Exploring Non-local Consciousness with Dean Radin (Senior Scientist at IONS), Neil Theise (Professor of Pathology and of Medicine), Julia Mossbridge (Cognitive Neuroscientist), John Hagelin (Quantum Physicist), Menas Kafatos (Quantum Physicist) and Rudolph Tanzi (Professor of Neurology, Harvard University), moderated by Cassandra Vieten (President of IONS)

You're the one who started this whole fucking mess, own up to it, what I'm saying is that just because there is a life after death, doesn't mean it involves god, for all you know it could be some random thing involving spirits or another life beyond this one without any gods at all. The reason I say you know nothing, is because you genuinely know nothing, you're jumping to conclusions and trying to shove religion down my throat claiming it's all God despite having no fucking proof. Also, as has been said by other people the scientist isn't necessarily saying this is actual evidence of an after life to begin with.

Amazing really how two supposedly ideologically different people are both using the same tactics on me, because just like Criptix you're claiming I've wrote shit that I haven't despite all the post history being made public for everybody to see.

Just how fucking deluded are you two?

As I've said a million times, it could be, that you're wrong about there being a God at all and if there is some kind of spirituality in death it's unlike anything we've imagined as human beings yet. It's so fucking arrogant of you to declare one way or the other without any evidence, all you're doing is citing the opinion of somebody else there is no empirical and measurable data for what you're describing.Now, I don't discount the idea that there could be some form of it, if there were proper research done, however you just pointing at the opinion of somebody else and going "SEE?" doesn't mean a thing.

The only one being close minded here is you thinking that merely quoting somebody elses opinion or theory means you're automatically correct, this is how religions get started in the first place you all point to the fucking bible or whatever holy book you want to worship and go "Look! These people centuries ago who didn't even know what fucking gravity is have the answers to how life was created and what happens in the after life! They're so smart! Lets all worship them and do whatever they say!" seriously, only a genuine moron thinks that way about religion.

That really annoyed me especially as somebody who's on the centre in the political compass and is an Anarchist, fucking close minded, I'm not the one going around declaring things as fact without having properly investigated it first for fucks sake, get a grip on yourself.

Speaking of aliens, how the fuck is somebody like you going to react if we really do find alien life? I'm not sure I'd want someone like you anywhere near them, stop acting like you know the answer to everything and use your brain for once, instead of trying to attack me when I just want to find out the truth of the matter instead of just go "God did it" and won't go along with your bullshit.

It's time for Thiests to admit that even if their is an afterlife they have absolutely no fucking clue what they're talking about and are just completely making up what the actual truth of the matter is and that it may be unlike anything we've ever encountered before, much like if all of a sudden we discovered genuine alien life that can communicate with radio signals like us.

The difference between Athiests and others who don't believe in God or worship the prick is that none of us are arrogant enough to declare one way or another whether we actually know, what the fuck is wrong with that? Why do you insist on trying to shove your religion down peoples throats? You're completely full of shit, I notice the "Why do athiests hate religion?" thread is over 200 pages long, well this is exactly why people who don't believe in god hate religion, it's because you fuckers insist on trying to forcefully convert us all into your fucking cults when the answer isn't going to be as simple as what you'd have gullible people believe.

Just leave me te fuck alone, I'm more than content on living my life the way I want to and finding out after I die what the answer is if it will never be found out while I'm alive, nevermind the fact that religious people often end up living like miserable cunts because of their religions' rules to begin with.