Topic: they are scamming us? - page 14. (Read 1859 times)
I've seen and still see many casinos here operating with no provably fair statement or very laughable provably statements. A statement is not enough either...Certifying the RNG (random number generation) is one step, but having tools (both internal and external) that will allow users to verify their bets is important too. To answer whether you are being scammed or not, this is something no one will ever know for sure. If that makes you uncomfortable, don't play!
You have to get out of that state where you think most gambling sites are sh*t.
If you are really serious about exploring everything about gambling, especially choosing a gambling site, you should realize later on that there are lots of sites where you can put your trust.
For a start, always head to the discussion community of that gambling site, if there is one, and just try to lurk there until you can now assume that the said gambling site is worth putting your trust in. Gambling sites especially popular and active in marketing will always do their best to satisfy their customers while attracting new users to their sites.
Gambling sites are doing there business, they will do what will also favor them, if they are trying to favor there customers always how will they be able to make profit also, don’t think gambling sites are supporting you, they also want you to lose so that they can make money. But just try and use a reputable gambling site whenever you want to gamble, so that you won’t be cheated.
If you find such evidence and have doubts about a proven fair system, you should not gamble because maybe that's what happened. But I don't think the casino will try to make us lose because I'm sure some of us make big money from gambling because of luck.
actually just play in legit casino houses and you are trouble free, this is what the problem i find in most gamblers now as they continuously looking for new casino sites and then? after being scammed then blaming the system from their laziness .Well, I agree that to be able to be sure that we are not scammed by casinos, we should be playing on the reputable gambling platform. But as other say, no one can please everybody, so no matter how true that the casino is implementing provably fair some people will still think that they are being cheated.
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So that's how the gambling business is. Some lose and some win. It's always like that. Playing gambling is entertainment regardless of the results and risks, so if the casino really intends to prevent you from winning, you don't need to think about it because you are only using gambling as entertainment, nothing more. And you also do not chase victory but just have fun spending time limiting the amount of your money.
gambling business mostly win mate, it is not the player that take all the advantage but the site of course.There is this house edge that will make the casino eventually win in the long run. Whether we win against the casino or not depends on how we stop playing when we are winning.
We really like to play gambling online , and there are lot of crypto gambling sites out there ,
many times i doubted the provably fair system, that these casinos are cheating me, but what can i do ,
many times i doubted the provably fair system, that these casinos are cheating me, but what can i do ,
Since being fair is your top priority concern, then all you need to do is to only keep playing at those casinos that already established a good reputation in the gambling industry and no one else. Those reputable casinos will not ruin their name by doing cheats as reputation is a hard thing to establish.
Your issue is not that really hard to deal with since nowadays there are lots of reputable casinos around and you just have to explore and browse their respective ANN threads. I know you understand how browsing in the forum works and you should tell if you are in an ANN gambling thread that was having a good discussion or not.
If ever you found a casino that you think want to try, just ask directly at that thread and see what will be the responses for you.
Not all casinos scam players, we need to be observant as gamblers, if a machine promises 98% payback, a player must watch closely to know if he receives 98% payback. Because sometimes the machine would pay 88% payback that's where the scam comes in and as a gambler you must not work with such casino again. It's you against the house, so don't come screaming to an enermy that you don't like the way he beats you. Find a way to keep winning the house or leave it and find another one. As for the video, though I didn't watch it, what makes you all Believe the supervisor? Is he trying to subbotage his business or what? However, only few people knows the right answer to how a the casino operates; pays users. And probably fair can be calculated to know if the casino is doing the right thing they is a way to check it on the gambling sites, for some I've reviewed myself.
The point here is that they don't need to scam us to make money - far from it. I'm not saying that in some cases a casino might try to do it, but all a casino needs to do is to get customers and then be careful with their bankroll management so that no whale will make them go bankrupt. That's all it takes for them to make a lot of money. RTP is what makes them money and for that, they don't need to scam anyone.
You made a point here and that is why some reputable casinos remain in business even when others are failing, and on a contrary opinion to ops that point to a one-sided fact and compressing it to our face to believe that casinos are outright scams. -Casinos are out to make profits and they have systems that they run their platform with but the contract with the player is spelt out in the T&C of the casino which a player is mandated to read and agree to before playing on the casinos.
Perhaps the supervisor was speaking based on his own casino and not the entirety of them, you should have substantial proof before trying to talk down any business or organization, every business has it T&C's, read them and if you're at peace further ahead to trade, if not, check elsewhere, it's that simple
The point here is that they don't need to scam us to make money - far from it. I'm not saying that in some cases a casino might try to do it, but all a casino needs to do is to get customers and then be careful with their bankroll management so that no whale will make them go bankrupt. That's all it takes for them to make a lot of money. RTP is what makes them money and for that, they don't need to scam anyone.
You made a point here and that is why some reputable casinos remain in business even when others are failing, and on a contrary opinion to ops that point to a one-sided fact and compressing it to our face to believe that casinos are outright scams. -Casinos are out to make profits and they have systems that they run their platform with but the contract with the player is spelt out in the T&C of the casino which a player is mandated to read and agree to before playing on the casinos.
I just watched the video and I must say that even though those things he is saying are serious business, most of them are applied by other kind of companies that do not have anything to do with gambling and also have a tier system. It comes to mind corporations that offer software as service or even exchanges.
In the end, gambling is a business and we need to be aware of it. Casinos (specially those with big resorts and hotels) do not build their empires by turning people into millionaires. If someone wants to realistically earn money with a reasonable risk amount, then they should not go to a casino but hire a financial advisor in my opinion.
I personally believe in the probably fairness of the games in the industry, if we can effectively verify our plays beyond any reasonable doubt.
The money laundering also is not convenient for casinos, specially online ones, since it only hurts their position in the industry against competitors.
In the end, gambling is a business and we need to be aware of it. Casinos (specially those with big resorts and hotels) do not build their empires by turning people into millionaires. If someone wants to realistically earn money with a reasonable risk amount, then they should not go to a casino but hire a financial advisor in my opinion.
I personally believe in the probably fairness of the games in the industry, if we can effectively verify our plays beyond any reasonable doubt.
The money laundering also is not convenient for casinos, specially online ones, since it only hurts their position in the industry against competitors.
We really like to play gambling online , and there are lot of crypto gambling sites out there ,
many times i doubted the provably fair system, that these casinos are cheating me, but what can i do ,
i come across this YouTube video that a biggest gambling site supervisor telling the truth about these sites,
that they analyze our bets and try to make us lose ,
what are your thoughts ,
i know provably system but many times i doubted it, i don't know this person is talking about crypto gambling or not but may be it also applies in crypto gambling.
most of you also may doubted the casino ,
video:https://youtu.be/ABj7peI_R2M
therefore we should be responsible gamblers with our bets.many times i doubted the provably fair system, that these casinos are cheating me, but what can i do ,
i come across this YouTube video that a biggest gambling site supervisor telling the truth about these sites,
that they analyze our bets and try to make us lose ,
what are your thoughts ,
i know provably system but many times i doubted it, i don't know this person is talking about crypto gambling or not but may be it also applies in crypto gambling.
most of you also may doubted the casino ,
video:https://youtu.be/ABj7peI_R2M
I mean we should gamble or bet using money that we really can afford to lose.
because any casino gambling is a very profitable business for gambling owners and gamblers will always lose, unless they are lucky.
gambling is a place to have fun in a luxurious way that sacrifices our money for our pleasure when betting.
gambling does not deceive us, but we are the ones who should be responsible for the risks we will get from gambling, especially losing.
but I am talking about popular gambling that has a good reputation, not gambling that has a plan to scamm.
I won't say they're scamming you in anyways since you read the terms and conditions and understand what you are signing up for, gambling is a business a d the system is designed in a way that gives the house the edge over the player and if you want ro know the probably fairness system you should play on blockchian base casino and reques for the game and to recheck how the game goes.
This is why I only play on my trusted and reputable casinos and don't jump over to new casino that easily. Casino are still a business and for sure they know that it is a lucrative business where they can earn loads of money from their customers. They won't do attractive promotion and bonuses if they are losing on their business. But failing to commit on what they have declared about their fairness is considered straight cheating. One way to avoid those is to just play on your trusty casino where you won't get any problem, Where you just need to enjoy and play.
I don't think a big casino has any interest in scamming anyone of us.Let's suppose that they do though,what is their gaining,it will not last long until they are found out that they are cheating at their players and this is enough when it is proven by trusted source for them to lose a lot of their user base and that would translate into big lost amount of money for them,as such I doubt they need to scam anyone of us.
They make money from the house edge which in the long run guarantees profit for them and the more users they manage to get,thanks to their bonuses,promotions and spreading of the word the better it becomes for them and as such I don't believe that bigger casinos have any advantage in trying to cheat us.May be the newcomers who want to make a quick buck but that is easy to avoid,keep playing in the well established ones as rarely new casinos offer you better terms than the bigger ones.
They make money from the house edge which in the long run guarantees profit for them and the more users they manage to get,thanks to their bonuses,promotions and spreading of the word the better it becomes for them and as such I don't believe that bigger casinos have any advantage in trying to cheat us.May be the newcomers who want to make a quick buck but that is easy to avoid,keep playing in the well established ones as rarely new casinos offer you better terms than the bigger ones.
what are your thoughts,
How many threads of members have warned gambling addicts here about losses and fraud, maybe countless more, YouTube, telegram, Whatsapp, Twitter, facebook, are hotbeds for fraud, various modes of tricks, analysis, predictions, gambling betting methods, facts, none of them are guided by social media like YouTube rich and successful in betting, all nonsense.Many of them are ambitious in placing bets based on the YouTube channel, this is not a new mode, for that in the future try placing bets with your own instincts and beliefs, without connecting here and there, try to think in common sense, if what they say is true, I'm sure they will do it themselves to bet, YouTube has lots of DEMO wins hanging around, be careful.
In the end, it's all speculation though. Said "truth" may be true in their cases, but we can't exactly say in some other cases. At this point, I rarely play in casinos but I just enjoy what I get and feel at that moment. Plus, I wouldn't say that their analysis "makes" you lose, though they do indeed do analysis, they instead create scenarios where you're forced to deposit more to redeem some of their bonuses, or even lock it behind certain rules so that you're forced to play. Plus some marketing stuff. Sounds simple on paper but it probably has a bunch of data analysis behind it.
Although we can speculate that some of the masked guy's video words are true, we need to clearly verify all of this, we don't know if the guy is really a supervisor in one online casino, but some of the things that he expose are true and this is the house always win because they have the edge but that they are analyzing our bets and tracing who is winning and marked these gamblers are problem gamblers for the house is something speculative, could be true or not.
If you look at casinos as something to make money you will be frustrated by what the guy just exposed but if you're playing for fun you can just ignore it and just play for fun, if casinos are stealing their money outright then no one will win and all those data they presented on their winners are false, it's just the house edge that you find it hard to beat.
If you look at casinos as something to make money you will be frustrated by what the guy just exposed but if you're playing for fun you can just ignore it and just play for fun, if casinos are stealing their money outright then no one will win and all those data they presented on their winners are false, it's just the house edge that you find it hard to beat.
It's really hard to win at any casino we go to gamble. Oftentimes, whether it's online or land-based casinos, the house edge lets a novice gambler who enters their casino platform win first.
Until the house edge sees that the gambler is entertained and they see that he enjoys winning all the time until it becomes a habit of their gamblers. There are still winners but of course, there are still more losers.
Attracting novice gamblers may be a strategy of some gambling company. If a gambler enjoys winning, he will be willing to spend more time and money. However, this does not apply to all casinos. Moreover doing this kind of work will be known as scam. Because if the house can determine the victory and defeat then the house will gain. Such behavior towards gamblers is not possible in big and established casino platforms. Until the house edge sees that the gambler is entertained and they see that he enjoys winning all the time until it becomes a habit of their gamblers. There are still winners but of course, there are still more losers.
Your win or loss depends on how fortunate you are in any game at any given time. You could lose today and ended up winning big tomorrow. In the game of Casino, you win some and lose some. Some win extremely big while others don't. I don't think any casino is out there intentionally scamming you. No. It is your chances that is playing out in real time. If you are lucky enough to hit the right number, you smile to the bank.
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The same way we as gamblers are playing to win, so also are casinos in the business to win too, it's a football match between to team, both of the team are playing against each other to come out as the winner in the end of the game, but unfortunately, only one team can be announced as winner..
So also it so with we as gamblers and the casino we gamble on, casinos are offering us a platform to gamble on, so they can make profit, and gamblers who gamble against the casino stand a 50 50 chance of either winning or losing, but since the casino is one which the higher edge, their chance of winning over their users is higher, and this is why we discover that some gamblers always would lose more than the win, but then, they still keep gambling and hoping that luck smiles on them some day.
So also it so with we as gamblers and the casino we gamble on, casinos are offering us a platform to gamble on, so they can make profit, and gamblers who gamble against the casino stand a 50 50 chance of either winning or losing, but since the casino is one which the higher edge, their chance of winning over their users is higher, and this is why we discover that some gamblers always would lose more than the win, but then, they still keep gambling and hoping that luck smiles on them some day.
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