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legendary
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March 06, 2023, 12:51:46 AM
#23
I think that the video is very instructive, but it reveals the management of online casino X, according to the ranking of players, but it does not say a word that there is a way to manipulate fair provability. Online casinos, like any business, are designed to make a profit and naturally there will be stories like the one that is told in the video, in any business there are companies that do not work honestly and deceive customers, but use more ways to check gambling establishments in which you are going to bet, it's one thing to lose, but it's doubly insulting to lose not only the deposit but also the winnings.
legendary
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March 06, 2023, 12:38:42 AM
#22
The point here is that they don't need to scam us to make money - far from it. I'm not saying that in some cases a casino might try to do it, but all a casino needs to do is to get customers and then be careful with their banrkoll management so that no whale will make them go bankrupt. That's all it takes for them to make a lot of money. RTP is what makes them money and for that they don't need to scam anyone.
legendary
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March 06, 2023, 12:26:42 AM
#21
i come across this YouTube video that a biggest gambling site supervisor telling the truth about these sites,
that they analyze our bets and try to make us lose ,
what are your thoughts ,
Don't you think gambling industry is here to do business? If your chances and their chances are the same then they will gamble like you and when they will gamble they will have chance to lose money in fact they will. I don't trust slot games and anything that is software generated. No matter how transparent they shows, there will be manipulation and with a piece of software you and me will have no clue.

The safest practice for gambling is big leagues. In sports betting at least you know that the chances for the gambling industry to manipulate you is lower than the slot games. There are match fixing but that part is another discussion.
hero member
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March 06, 2023, 12:23:22 AM
#20
This is an open secret many casinos operate that way based on the confession of the informer some of what he exposed are true and some are subject to speculation, gamblers need to understand that casinos are entertainment portal it has been that way since the inception of the internet, physical casinos will do everything to make you stay, play longer because this is their house edge, if you play long you are bound to lose.
It's the same with online casinos, they promote themselves as entertainment portals, not investment platforms so you have a low chance of winning but if you do the right things you have a high chance of enjoying playing. 
full member
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March 06, 2023, 12:13:09 AM
#19
If you find such evidence and have doubts about a proven fair system, you should not gamble because maybe that's what happened. But I don't think the casino will try to make us lose because I'm sure some of us make big money from gambling because of luck.
actually just play in legit casino houses and you are trouble free, this is what the problem i find in most gamblers now as they continuously looking for new casino sites and then? after being scammed then blaming the system from their laziness .
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So that's how the gambling business is. Some lose and some win. It's always like that. Playing gambling is entertainment regardless of the results and risks, so if the casino really intends to prevent you from winning, you don't need to think about it because you are only using gambling as entertainment, nothing more. And you also do not chase victory but just have fun spending time limiting the amount of your money.
gambling business mostly win mate, it is not the player that take all the advantage but the site of course.
hero member
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March 05, 2023, 11:06:52 PM
#18
If you find such evidence and have doubts about a proven fair system, you should not gamble because maybe that's what happened. But I don't think the casino will try to make us lose because I'm sure some of us make big money from gambling because of luck.

So that's how the gambling business is. Some lose and some win. It's always like that. Playing gambling is entertainment regardless of the results and risks, so if the casino really intends to prevent you from winning, you don't need to think about it because you are only using gambling as entertainment, nothing more. And you also do not chase victory but just have fun spending time limiting the amount of your money.
legendary
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March 05, 2023, 10:32:04 PM
#17
casinos are looking for money not to give money, there are ways that can make gamblers rich, that is, to become a dealer, then you will be rich by yourself, not gambling, because basically it is difficult to become a rich person with the results of gambling, even though there will not be many, only a handful of people, if there are many rich people because of gambling of course the casino will go bankrupt, so actually it all comes back to the goals of each gambler in playing, to be honest I don't feel cheated because I just play for fun, I also don't think what's written in this thread is wrong, everyone returned to their respective mindsets to respond to the video.  Wink
legendary
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March 05, 2023, 09:44:44 PM
#16
No, they don't. That's how gambling works ever since, be it online or not. Those who think they have been scammed are players who don't fully understand how gambling works, about risk, chances, etc. Players who can not accept their losses will always think like that. Before an individual gonna try gambling, he should put in his mind that he will lose more than you win.
sr. member
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March 05, 2023, 09:40:30 PM
#15
  -    Gambling sometimes makes us wonder, despite everything that we know it won't bring us anything good as a gambler in the end except if we win of course we are happy, but we continue to gamble.

Perhaps because of the pleasure we experienced in winning here or we felt envious of other gamblers because we heard that they won a large amount so we also tried thinking that we would also get the luck that others achieved but in the end, we didn't.
legendary
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March 05, 2023, 07:54:12 PM
#14
We really like to play gambling online , and there are lot of crypto gambling sites out there ,
many times i doubted the provably fair system,  that these casinos are cheating me, but what can i do ,
i come across this YouTube video that a biggest gambling site supervisor telling the truth about these sites,
that they analyze our bets and try to make us lose ,
what are your thoughts ,
i know provably system but many times i doubted it, i don't know this person is talking about crypto gambling or not but may be it also applies in crypto gambling.
most of you also may doubted the casino ,
video:https://youtu.be/ABj7peI_R2M

It's gambling per se, you everything is base on luck, and of course there is what we call the house edge - a inbuilt mechanism in casinos that will give them favor, specially in you play long hours and it's going to be very difficult to beat than, unless you are "Lucky".

For provably fair system, you will have to check every casino on how they get the result in let's say a roll of a dice to see if it is really random or not. And if you know you are going to lose, then why gambling in the beginning? My point is that you have to understand how casino operates before you put your first bet and if you lose then maybe it's not your lucky day, or you may want to check how provably fair that casino is, or at least their games.
hero member
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March 05, 2023, 02:42:38 PM
#13
The questin of whether to trust those on-line gamblin' joints has been plaguin' me for days, man. It's like a puzzle that no one can solve, ya dig?On one side, you got these provably fair systems that are supposed to be legit, but on the other hand, it's hard to shake the feelin' that somethin's fishy, ya know what I'm sayin'? It's like, are they really on the up-and-up? But ya know what, fam? At the end of the day, life is full of risks, and gamblin' is no different. Ya can try to research and be all cautious, but you'll never have complete certainty. So just let it ride, and see where the dice fall. Ain't no need to stress over it
legendary
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March 05, 2023, 02:41:35 PM
#12
The whole video can be summarized to the fact that house has an edge. That's not scamming, that's common knowledge. Casino makes profits, if that wasn't a sure thing they wouldn't exist.
And obviously when someone is winning irregular amounts of money compared to other users they are being investigated how are they doing that. Could be a hack or any number of things.

And suicide calls. I don't understand in what level company would need to react to them. Only thing you can do really is to report them, if you are taking them personally you will just go insane.
And not just casinos get them, if you are big enough you will get all sorts of crazy calls and letters.
Even the cryptocobain got his share of this.
legendary
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March 05, 2023, 02:17:49 PM
#11
Gambling is an industry that probably should be regulated like other industries that sell "particular" products. Particular? Yes sure since these are products that can give addiction!

if you play without understand or underestimate the risk involved with gambling you are risking to get scammed/loss a big amount of money.

But, if someone is playing just for fun and enjoy spending time on such activity (with a defined wallet/amount to play) I don't see nothing wrong, and of course it's just a math issue if casino ending win...
sr. member
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March 05, 2023, 02:13:42 PM
#10
It's really hard to win at any casino we go to gamble. Oftentimes, whether it's online or land-based casinos, the house edge lets a novice gambler who enters their casino platform win first.

    Until the house edge sees that the gambler is entertained and they see that he enjoys winning all the time until it becomes a habit of their gamblers. There are still winners but of course, there are still more losers.
legendary
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March 05, 2023, 01:48:45 PM
#9
@cafter, we all know that there is house hedge but we love gambling, if you think gambling site are cheating you and you do not want that again, you can stop gambling, but almost all people that re gambing know this and they just want to have fun while some people only just want to try their luck with just little amount of money.
hero member
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March 05, 2023, 01:38:27 PM
#8
Apparently, it's hard to resist that despite them warning us that casinos are not going to allow us to win in the long run but we're here. We are going to make some wins somehow and lose over time. It's not scamming but it's just designed for us to lose.

I think people though are starting to learn that more than half of the people here I guess are going for sports betting. That's a gradual escape from luck-based games.  

One thing that the video was saying is true even in online casinos was that the more you lose, you become a VIP. Yup ultimately you are a winner.
legendary
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March 05, 2023, 01:36:13 PM
#7
I watched the video and it's good, is nice to see that side of the coin. And the fact that casinos manipulate the bets is just crazy... As you mention some of the games are provably fair and the site can't manipulate those ones, but games like slots can be manipulated because users can't verify the bets in those ones, and since the casino has a license we don't have any option than trust on them.

My recommendation is to play games where you can verify the bets.
hero member
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March 05, 2023, 01:32:21 PM
#6
Casinos are here to make money; not to lose to their gamblers/customers. At the end of the day, they will be the winner and you, me or other gamblers will be the loser. It's pretty much simple than you are thinking as of. Well, play on casinos where you can verify your bets; if you are familiar with provably fair, so it shouldn't be an issue for you. If all of us keep winning, would this huge casino industry have existed? No. C'mon.
sr. member
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March 05, 2023, 01:14:32 PM
#5
 Do not forget that casinos are more or less a business oriented organization. So therefore would want to make more profits to running the casino and also salary payment to her staff. Just like every individual, gamblers or bettors would want to make profit from gambling on casinos same it is applicable to casinos too. No one wants to loss. I some times feel the same way you too feel about casinos intentionally doing what they could to strap gamblers of their hard earned resources all in the name of gambling for fun. Although not all do it intentional but believe me you, they always want More gamblers to fail do they could make more profits to their coffers.  I think sometimes the issues of account ban and suspension must likely be that the casino might be running short of funds do would probably generate more funds from that act of theirs in banning and suspending accounts but they would not say it for us to know rather they would find fault and do the dirty job on people's account and funds.
copper member
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March 05, 2023, 12:41:26 PM
#4
They are not scamming and actually the terms and condition will help you to understand how their business work. Gambling is a business. It’s normal that they will want profit from customers money by means of loss. They don’t need to do this shitty algorithms to scam players just to have a profit because they already have the house edge on all of the games which guarantee their win in the long run. They just need a good marketing and promotion to let player stay in the casino.

I watch this video long time ago. He might telling the truth about the casino he is working before but there’s no assurance that other casino is doing it too. Gambling doesn’t promise any profit at all that’s why casino always say to bet responsibly.
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