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Quote from: cafter on March 05, 2023, 11:59:45 AM

We really like to play gambling online , and there are lot of crypto gambling sites out there ,
many times i doubted the provably fair system, that these casinos are cheating me, but what can i do

You can do many things if this thing you're saying happens to be true, why should you remain loyal to a casino scamming you, it's not by force choosing them, it's rather by choice, you can choose to stay or leave at any time, we have alot of casinos both new and old interested in making new gamblers have suitable experience with them.

Quote from: cafter on March 05, 2023, 11:59:45 AM

that they analyze our bets and try to make us lose

This i may not agree, it's plain and fair, you gamble to win or loose, you can try betting at any settings aside from the common casino gambling, except if you already fall the hands of the scammed ones, i also don't believe in whatever i read online or watch because everyone at the end is after his own interest in everything they do.

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Quote from: Agbe on March 07, 2023, 05:19:21 PM

Quote from: cafter on March 05, 2023, 11:59:45 AM

We really like to play gambling online , and there are lot of crypto gambling sites out there ,
many times i doubted the provably fair system, that these casinos are cheating me, but what can i do ,
i come across this YouTube video that a biggest gambling site supervisor telling the truth about these sites,
that they analyze our bets and try to make us lose ,
what are your thoughts ,
i know provably system but many times i doubted it, i don't know this person is talking about crypto gambling or not but may be it also applies in crypto gambling.
most of you also may doubted the casino ,
video:https://youtu.be/ABj7peI_R2M

I don't think there is any faithful casino company or site in the internet or online. Some are openly scamming gamblers while some are secretly scamming gamblers. Even the best casino you know online is not faithful to some extent. Your guest or doubt is correct, casinos use different languages to collect money from users or gambling but some are better off compares to others. Not all casinos are bad but the ones that bad are much more and they have spoiled the image of the good ones so it is very difficult to detect a good casino. The KYC is used by many to confused gamblers and siphoned gamblers filund to themselves.

This is why its really that important that you should really be considering those funds that you had deposited on a gambling site is completely gone or you would be thinking that its considered 100% lost.

So that incase that there would be some problems then you wont really be that much in hurt because you are already anticipating it but somehow when you do win big then it just cant really be avoided
for you on not to be that reactive specially if we do speak about some significant amounts on here.This is why its always been that important that you should really know on where you do make yourself
getting involved.Its just common sense that you should really be sticking into those current reputable or known ones but just like been said that there would be no guarantee that they wont
really be scamming users.

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Quote from: cafter on March 05, 2023, 11:59:45 AM

We really like to play gambling online , and there are lot of crypto gambling sites out there ,
many times i doubted the provably fair system, that these casinos are cheating me, but what can i do ,
i come across this YouTube video that a biggest gambling site supervisor telling the truth about these sites,
that they analyze our bets and try to make us lose ,
what are your thoughts ,
i know provably system but many times i doubted it, i don't know this person is talking about crypto gambling or not but may be it also applies in crypto gambling.
most of you also may doubted the casino ,
video:https://youtu.be/ABj7peI_R2M

I don't think there is any faithful casino company or site in the internet or online. Some are openly scamming gamblers while some are secretly scamming gamblers. Even the best casino you know online is not faithful to some extent. Your guest or doubt is correct, casinos use different languages to collect money from users or gambling but some are better off compares to others. Not all casinos are bad but the ones that bad are much more and they have spoiled the image of the good ones so it is very difficult to detect a good casino. The KYC is used by many to confused gamblers and siphoned gamblers filund to themselves.

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Cheating is everywhere I know even in church people do cheat more in business, gambling that case, but come to think of it I don't think any casino 🎰 site will cheat their customers because they are looking for a way their site will grow and cheating will make customers run from them

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Quote from: cafter on March 07, 2023, 10:44:19 AM

yes, I play gambling for fun
i just came accross this video, wanted to share this that it can happen or not ,
it can happen with small casinos who only came to make money not for making a brand

All casinos want to make money. I'm sure there are ones that cheat but these are usually smaller, less popular ones.

If a casino has 100 people playing at any moment and each of them pays a fee the casino constantly makes money and what one player loses the other wins so the money is in constanc circulation and stays in balance. The casino operator doesn't have to cheat. He gets a steady flow of money 24 hours a day.

If they were cheating more and more people would have complaints over time. There would be open scam accusations and discussions in their forum threads. Out of those 100 people if only 1 per hour would notice that they're cheating and come to tell about it we'd have new threads coming up every day.

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Quote from: cafter on March 05, 2023, 11:59:45 AM

We really like to play gambling online , and there are lot of crypto gambling sites out there ,
many times i doubted the provably fair system, that these casinos are cheating me, but what can i do ,
i come across this YouTube video that a biggest gambling site supervisor telling the truth about these sites,
that they analyze our bets and try to make us lose ,
what are your thoughts ,
i know provably system but many times i doubted it, i don't know this person is talking about crypto gambling or not but may be it also applies in crypto gambling.
most of you also may doubted the casino ,
video:https://youtu.be/ABj7peI_R2M

Casinos operate with procedures intended to make it difficult for players to win, as long-time gamblers in the industry are probably aware of. These techniques help the casino to make the most money possible; it is unlikely that players will be able to constantly outperform them. Experienced gamblers are aware of this risk, so before engaging in any gambling activity, it is important to understand and accept it.

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Quote from: cafter on March 05, 2023, 11:59:45 AM

We really like to play gambling online , and there are lot of crypto gambling sites out there ,
many times i doubted the provably fair system, that these casinos are cheating me, but what can i do ,
i come across this YouTube video that a biggest gambling site supervisor telling the truth about these sites,
that they analyze our bets and try to make us lose ,
what are your thoughts ,

Casino do have a house hedge, and gamnot.rs can't beat the house hedge because they always win. They are out for business and if every gamblers wins almost all the time,I don't think that they casino will be able to pay the winners which would lead to their ruin. If most casino run at big lost and shut down,then how will we gamblers entertain ourselves. I see gambling as fun which I have to pay for and this doesn't bother me at all. Nobody will love to run a business that he or she will run at great lost. You see it is a scam but something that we are use to,therefore, I don't see it as scam because it is your choice to gamble or not.

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Quote from: goldkingcoiner on March 07, 2023, 11:04:05 AM

Quote from: UserU on March 05, 2023, 12:28:38 PM

That's why players stick to reviews or megathreads of casinos to see which ones are worthy over time. There are a few reputable reviewers here, like GOSU and GamblingBro that have reviewed casinos from time to time.

After all, gambling is all about luck and house edges hence it's a business for making money.

Yeah you say that and at the same time you trust reviews. I don't mean to sound negative but I would not trust any reviews that are not my own. Especially from review sites or some well known "review authorities". It does not really matter how the reputation of such reviewers looks like, they could at any time be taking bribes from the casinos they are supposed to be reviewing, only to give them a slightly higher review for no good reason.

I would say the best thing to do is to read through many reviews on a third party site like on a megathread on our Bitcointalk forum. And even then, I would take those reviews with a pinch of salt.

You said it right dude, and to this day there are still reviews that get paid just to say a good feedback review on a casino here on cryptocurrency.

But if you review with all honesty, even if you were paid, it's okay for the person who paid you to say something negative about gambling as long as it's true, I think it's okay.

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Quote from: cafter on March 05, 2023, 11:59:45 AM

We really like to play gambling online , and there are lot of crypto gambling sites out there ,
many times i doubted the provably fair system, that these casinos are cheating me, but what can i do ,
i come across this YouTube video that a biggest gambling site supervisor telling the truth about these sites,
that they analyze our bets and try to make us lose ,
what are your thoughts ,
i know provably system but many times i doubted it, i don't know this person is talking about crypto gambling or not but may be it also applies in crypto gambling.
most of you also may doubted the casino ,
video:https://youtu.be/ABj7peI_R2M

I can't say this is something shocking or eye-opening. I guess many gamblers here know (or suspect) how a casino operates. They have no illusions regarding that. Yes, perhaps such videos can stop someone from starting to gamble, so they're not at all worthless. Cool

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Quote from: UserU on March 05, 2023, 12:28:38 PM

That's why players stick to reviews or megathreads of casinos to see which ones are worthy over time. There are a few reputable reviewers here, like GOSU and GamblingBro that have reviewed casinos from time to time.

After all, gambling is all about luck and house edges hence it's a business for making money.

Yeah you say that and at the same time you trust reviews. I don't mean to sound negative but I would not trust any reviews that are not my own. Especially from review sites or some well known "review authorities". It does not really matter how the reputation of such reviewers looks like, they could at any time be taking bribes from the casinos they are supposed to be reviewing, only to give them a slightly higher review for no good reason.

I would say the best thing to do is to read through many reviews on a third party site like on a megathread on our Bitcointalk forum. And even then, I would take those reviews with a pinch of salt.

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Quote from: Oshosondy on March 05, 2023, 01:48:45 PM

@cafter, we all know that there is house hedge but we love gambling, if you think gambling site are cheating you and you do not want that again, you can stop gambling, but almost all people that re gambing know this and they just want to have fun while some people only just want to try their luck with just little amount of money.

yes, I play gambling for fun
i just came accross this video, wanted to share this that it can happen or not ,
it can happen with small casinos who only came to make money not for making a brand

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Quote from: cafter on March 05, 2023, 11:59:45 AM

i come across this YouTube video that a biggest gambling site supervisor telling the truth about these sites,
that they analyze our bets and try to make us lose ,
what are your thoughts ,
i know provably system but many times i doubted it, i don't know this person is talking about crypto gambling or not but may be it also applies in crypto gambling.
most of you also may doubted the casino ,
video:https://youtu.be/ABj7peI_R2M

Are you exposing something, you need to come out with something solid, not just a masked guy who tells stories based on speculation and could possibly be a make-up story, he should expose his real identity and shows his evidence if someone is accusing then he should show proof, and if this is true it could be only on a casino that he is working on and not talking about in general about the whole online casino industry.
It's easy to get a lot of views on Youtube if you create a channel about exposing many subjects and it will attract if you talk about gambling.

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Quote from: Solosanz on March 07, 2023, 10:14:46 AM

Just gamble on trusted and reputable casino to minimize the risk of scam.

When you want to gamble make sure you're only gamble for fun and not only looking to make money, otherwise you wouldn't feel happy during gambling. You need to know if you gambling for long term, you will always lose due to house edge, so you shouldn't expect you will make money if you keep gambling until you hit the jackpot.

Casino is a business after all so they will do everything to make their business run continuously. We can expect issues like this in non reputable casinos that's why it is important to research the legitimacy and provably fairness of casinos before playing.
We can't conclude if casinos are cheating through their systems because they have complete access to them but I believe that as long as you are playing with a trusted site, you won't face cheating issues.

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Just gamble on trusted and reputable casino to minimize the risk of scam.

When you want to gamble make sure you're only gamble for fun and not only looking to make money, otherwise you wouldn't feel happy during gambling. You need to know if you gambling for long term, you will always lose due to house edge, so you shouldn't expect you will make money if you keep gambling until you hit the jackpot.

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Depends on the gambling site you are engaging yourself with. But the truth is, no one will know if the platform is already cheating their players not unless majority would experience continuous loss and players would be raising the concern. But for sure gambling sites won't allow such thing to escalate. They could cheat on a proportion of players but won't totally make it obvious. Best thing to do is to move towards other platform if you are just losing from time to time. Depends also on the game you are playing because in sportsbetting, outcomes are specific which makes it less risky for sites to cheat I guess, not unless it is a scam platform in the first place. Losing is a part of playing or gambling but if things do not occur as planned often, there could really be manipulations with result.

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Quote from: Fortune.st on March 06, 2023, 04:44:17 AM

Your win or loss depends on how fortunate you are in any game at any given time. You could lose today and ended up winning big tomorrow. In the game of Casino, you win some and lose some. Some win extremely big while others don't. I don't think any casino is out there intentionally scamming you. No. It is your chances that is playing out in real time. If you are lucky enough to hit the right number, you smile to the bank.

Though it's true that winning or losing in gambling depends on one's luck, and that a casino doesn't necessarily stop you from winning, but, casinos have a house edge which makes the house have more probability of winning over the gambler, and that's how the gambling business model works. So if someone questions that, I don't think they will be right.

About scams, I don't also believe that guy in the video that casinos actually make certain users lose based on analysis and statistics. Of course it's their marketing strategy to keep the big rollers engaged but it is only the house-edge that makes them lose in the long run.

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Quote from: BobK71 on March 07, 2023, 07:10:46 AM

Quote from: cafter on March 05, 2023, 11:59:45 AM

We really like to play gambling online , and there are lot of crypto gambling sites out there ,
many times i doubted the provably fair system, that these casinos are cheating me, but what can i do ,
i come across this YouTube video that a biggest gambling site supervisor telling the truth about these sites,
that they analyze our bets and try to make us lose ,
what are your thoughts ,
i know provably system but many times i doubted it, i don't know this person is talking about crypto gambling or not but may be it also applies in crypto gambling.
most of you also may doubted the casino ,

If you had chosen the gambling platform by doing your own research and not depending on someone else's word, you would not have faced such a situation. Gambling is widely discussed in this forum. A variety of new and old, reputable casinos are listed here and most of them have ANN threads where you can learn about their pros and cons. I think reviews from people who gamble there are most appropriate. What the majority of them would suggest is perfect. Common people who are bloggers or YouTubers highlight the advantages of gambling sites by money. But for gamblers and those who manage gambling regularly, Their review will be worthy for choosing any legit site.

OP made a point but i was expecting OP to have given us the link to the video as claimed by OP for members to peruse. If we are to go by what OP is saying, it is some how reasonable but we should not forget that casinos are also business ventures with structure of salary payment ans tax payment too. So therefore OP should not think that the casino would seat and watch while they make loss. They too would want to make profit as every other persons and businesses plans too. Nevertheless, it is also advised to do your own research as you have earlier stated so as to not enter into the wrong business but some people do not hid to that advise they just jump into dealing with them because of the bonus give away they saw forgetting that most of the give away are just nothing but traps.

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A gambler is free to choose where he's going to gamble. If he thinks that it's no longer good for him to stay there any longer then you're free to flee from them.

Telling that they're scamming their users, gather some more proof that they do really scam you. It's like a service being offered to anyone in return for paying the fun and chance of getting back more money.

Thus, about the provably fair, you can verify seeds depending on the casino where you gamble.

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Quote from: Plaguedeath on March 07, 2023, 05:01:24 AM

Correct, online casino is scam because you haven't making any money through gambling isn't? of course when you've make a lot money and successfully to withdraw all of the winnings, you wouldn't think online casino is scam, right?

If you have such mindset and doesn't trust about provably fair system, you will always say online casino is scam. Anyway what if you go to the offline slot machine and then ask the operator how to verify your bet? also how we can know if the slot is reputable.

But we know that some online casinos turn out to be scams and they have got many victims of scams that they do. So if he is frustrated by the deception, he should not gamble anymore because, after all, he will surely continue to think that way and will no longer be able to enjoy gambling as entertainment.

That must be done by people who often lose at gambling and cannot accept that gambling can give them more money to lose if they don't stop immediately. In addition, if he really plays in a casino that has been proven to deceive many people, he only deposits his money without being able to withdraw his winnings if he wins. He would regret it even more later and before that happened, he'd better leave and not return to any of the casinos.

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