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Topic: Time to stand up to the XT shills here! - page 11. (Read 10601 times)

legendary
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November 08, 2015, 12:51:36 PM
#88
Again, he has never stopped working on Bitcoin, whenever it was Bitcoin XT or Bitcoin Core.

This part is quite true, he was working on Bitcoin Core, then switched to XT when his pull request was rejected:
https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/6341

History of Gavin's Pull Requests for Bitcoin Core:
https://github.com/bitcoinxt/bitcoinxt/pulls?q=author%3Agavinandresen

You can see how the Bitcoin Core > Bitcoin XT > Bitcoin Core chronological fits quite nicely.

It also matches up very nicely with the aforementioned mailing list posts.

I want to make it clear that I'm not suggesting that Gavin is a *bad actor*, I'm just supplying evidence to support my claim that Bitcoin XT is considered a laughing stock from the Bitcoin Technical Community.

I do think that it is fair to suggest that Gavin was interested in Bitcoin XT more than Bitcoin Core for a period of time as Bitcoin XT accepted his BIP 101 pull requests.
legendary
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Cashback 15%
November 08, 2015, 12:47:17 PM
#87
Users "knight22" and "meono", and their ilk, don't posses any other skill they can use to earn a living.

So they must resort to shilling. Can you imagine dedicating your whole day to spreading lies?

What a pathetic existence they must live. When you look back on your life, will you feel proud for attempting to destroy one of the most positive developments mankind has ever seen?


maybe they just want a solution in the blocksize debate? maybe they just want bitcoin to succeed and scale?

hopefully the next 3 months will bring that solution.



@HostFat

good point. to be static at this stage means death.

Am also thinking of the same. Though I somehow feel that Hearn and Gavin's position as lead devs is somehow iffy, still bitcoin's block size limit shouldn't be static at all and just be changed when the problem is already there. Actually what they propose is great, it's just that the way they want to implement is, well, not that good imo.
newbie
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November 08, 2015, 12:33:25 PM
#86
Forking bazstards! I don't quite understand the issue here, what are the shills going to achieve on a forum that's behind Bitcoin?
staff
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I support freedom of choice
November 08, 2015, 12:30:45 PM
#85
Again, he has never stopped working on Bitcoin, whenever it was Bitcoin XT or Bitcoin Core.

You can go and check even on the pull request on Bitcoin Core.
Even while he wasn't adding code, he was checking the pull requests from the others.

They were a totally false statements from people that were trying to demolish his image the community.

Nothing has changed, you are just seeing the reality and thinking that something has changed, while it has not.
full member
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November 08, 2015, 12:26:44 PM
#84
I use this thread to decide which users to put on my ignore list.
legendary
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November 08, 2015, 12:23:06 PM
#83
The XT crew have made lowcows of themselves.  Even Gavin has moved back to working on Bitcoin Core (on github).
He has never stopped.
All the claim from idiots that he was stopped developing on Bitcoin was pure shit  Roll Eyes

Well there was a period where he directly contributed to Bitcoin XT, providing a total of 5 pull requests:
https://github.com/bitcoinxt/bitcoinxt/pulls?q=author%3Agavinandresen

For the same period, other than promoting his BIP 101, he was notably very quite on the Bitcoin Core github.

More recently he has become involved in many technical discussions over on the Bitcoin Core Github.

I think that you can track the change after this particular message to the mailing list:
https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2015-September/011220.html

Instead of going the lolcow route (aka the one Mike Hearn took), Gavin has made a concerted effort to re-gain some trust in with the Bitcoin Development community.

Oh and if you are wondering what the 'lolcow' post was. Here it is:
https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2015-September/011304.html
hero member
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November 08, 2015, 12:21:06 PM
#82
I'll do it.

DOWN WITH BIGGER BLOCKS. DOWN WITH NODES AND XT AND GAVIN COWS!!! UP WITH SMALLER BLOCKS. KEEP THINGS THE SAME. cHANGE THINGS BUT KEEP THEM THE SAME.

DOWN WITH SHILLs!!!

Where's my cheque?
hero member
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November 08, 2015, 12:11:36 PM
#81
We need an anti XT shill force
legendary
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November 08, 2015, 12:02:34 PM
#80
Is that cow in your signature Gavin cause it looks like Fernando Torres.

It is actually Sacha Baron Cohen in his publicity event for the movie Brüno. Quite a fitting profile picture for this forum, I think.
legendary
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November 08, 2015, 11:53:24 AM
#79
The XT crew have made lowcows of themselves.  Even Gavin has moved back to working on Bitcoin Core (on github).
He has never stopped.
All the claim from idiots that he was stopped developing on Bitcoin was pure shit  Roll Eyes

Maybe all of you should get back to reality
http://forums.prohashing.com/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=650&p=2467

 Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

The altcoin post...

Someone should seriously ban you it's shame how desperate you are

yet another example of theymos' leniency.

great altcoin wet dreaming  post, staff boy.

hero member
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Bitcoin replaces central, not commercial, banks
November 08, 2015, 11:42:41 AM
#78
The XT crew have made lowcows of themselves.  Even Gavin has moved back to working on Bitcoin Core (on github).
He has never stopped.
All the claim from idiots that he was stopped developing on Bitcoin was pure shit  Roll Eyes

Maybe all of you should get back to reality
http://forums.prohashing.com/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=650&p=2467

 Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

The altcoin post...

Someone should seriously ban you it's shame how desperate you are
staff
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I support freedom of choice
November 08, 2015, 11:16:29 AM
#77
The XT crew have made lowcows of themselves.  Even Gavin has moved back to working on Bitcoin Core (on github).
He has never stopped.
All the claim from idiots that he was stopped developing on Bitcoin was pure shit  Roll Eyes

Maybe all of you should get back to reality
http://forums.prohashing.com/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=650&p=2467
hero member
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November 08, 2015, 11:00:54 AM
#76
Is that cow in your signature Gavin cause it looks like Fernando Torres.
legendary
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Live and Let Live
November 08, 2015, 10:51:48 AM
#75
The XT crew have made lowcows of themselves.  Even Gavin has moved back to working on Bitcoin Core (on github).

It is kinda funny seeing Coinbase come out in support for XT, since the entire technical community has moved on.

To make it short:

XT is treated as joke. (in the technical community).

 Shocked Shocked Shocked
hero member
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November 08, 2015, 08:03:29 AM
#74
I don't know that much about the topic; I feel like a newcomer to the Israel/Palestine conflict. I know some of the basics I suppose but the level of vitriol is amazing.

Who should I support? Also if anyone needs any "paid shills" my rates are quite reasonable  Grin. (That last part was a joke, I should probably point that out).  Roll Eyes
sr. member
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November 08, 2015, 07:16:56 AM
#73
The rise of block size to 2MB or higher is essential in the next two years to make bitcoin usable for most people and not to increase the transaction fee too much.
legendary
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November 08, 2015, 06:59:11 AM
#72
I agree that concerning the blocksize something has to happen. And I believe we will solve this issue.
But I will never support XT to achieve this. There are several other options and in december we will see it.
And I wonder why again the XT guys try to make trouble.Hearn isn't even going to HK and is acting like a small kid who doesn't get what he wants. That guy means pure trouble imo.

I say it again.Yes to blocksize increase as far as possible under the conditions that Bitcoin stays decentralized as much as possible.Go with 2 or 4 MB whatever.
But no to XT!!!!
legendary
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November 08, 2015, 06:44:42 AM
#71
Come on, XT is only a way to democratically and gradually increase block size . Maybe it is not the final or the best solution, but 7 tx per second is really too few yo imagine a working btc economy.... We need this to be resolved BEFORE it becomes an issue.

the proble is that xt pretend to add features that they think they are useful when they are clearly not, like that shit about the IP traceability

the problem is the limit? good, fix that only, don't touch anything else, this cna be implemented easily in core, without changing its name to fancy thing like XT/zeta/super ....
legendary
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November 08, 2015, 06:41:29 AM
#70
Come on, XT is only a way to democratically and gradually increase block size . Maybe it is not the final or the best solution, but 7 tx per second is really too few yo imagine a working btc economy.... We need this to be resolved BEFORE it becomes an issue.

legendary
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November 08, 2015, 06:40:33 AM
#69
Come on, XT is only a way to democratically and gradually increase block size . Maybe it is not the final or the best solution, but 7 tx per second is really too few yo imagine a working btc economy.... We need this to be resolved BEFORE it becomes an issue.
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