Time to stand up to the XT shills here! - page 12.

LiteCoinGuy

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In Satoshi I Trust

Quote from: Stringer Bell on November 08, 2015, 05:00:32 AM

Users "knight22" and "meono", and their ilk, don't posses any other skill they can use to earn a living.

So they must resort to shilling. Can you imagine dedicating your whole day to spreading lies?

What a pathetic existence they must live. When you look back on your life, will you feel proud for attempting to destroy one of the most positive developments mankind has ever seen?

maybe they just want a solution in the blocksize debate? maybe they just want bitcoin to succeed and scale?

hopefully the next 3 months will bring that solution.

@HostFat

good point. to be static at this stage means death.

1Referee

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I run a Bitcoin Core full node for months and I will definitely not change that. Pools are boss, I support whatever choice they make. It's fully clear that no one is waiting for XT beside a few rebellious people. If you guys want to develop your XT project further, make an announcement thread in the altcoin section. Good luck.

Stringer Bell

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Users "knight22" and "meono", and their ilk, don't posses any other skill they can use to earn a living.

So they must resort to shilling. Can you imagine dedicating your whole day to spreading lies?

What a pathetic existence they must live. When you look back on your life, will you feel proud for attempting to destroy one of the most positive developments mankind has ever seen?

danielW

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Quote from: knight22 on November 07, 2015, 02:03:46 PM

I would like to have a rational explanation about why you people think free choices must be fighted. And how does that fit bitcoin vision.

What we are not allowed to criticise XT and say its bad for Bitcoin? The answer to your question is: it must be fought because its a choice that is bad for Bitcoin.

Who ever said free choices can not be fought?

If somebody makes a free choice to rob my house can I fight their free choice?

HostFat

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I support freedom of choice

Quote from: cjmoles on November 07, 2015, 08:22:10 PM

I'm new here. Is bitcoin broken or about to be broken? From what I gather here....bitcoin seems to be becoming antiquated but nobody can figure out how to keep the blockchain healthy. It seems that one side doesn't want it to change and the other side wants it to change too fast and too much. I cannot figure out which side the shills are on. If bitcoin is in danger of becoming antiquated, we might need to figure out the most efficient solution to avoid that from happening, or another technology WILL take over....plain and simple.

Someone here thinks that people out of here will wait forever for solution to their problems.
They think that Bitcoin will live forever as the only one.

How many of you are still using Napster/Winmx/Kazaa/DirectConnect/Shareaza/eDonkey/eMule... instead of BitTorrent to download files?

Are you all waiting to know what will be the BitTorrent (killer) of the Bitcoin?
Without innovation, Bitcoin is already waiting for its death.

cjmoles

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I'm new here. Is bitcoin broken or about to be broken? From what I gather here....bitcoin seems to be becoming antiquated but nobody can figure out how to keep the blockchain healthy. It seems that one side doesn't want it to change and the other side wants it to change too fast and too much. I cannot figure out which side the shills are on. If bitcoin is in danger of becoming antiquated, we might need to figure out the most efficient solution to avoid that from happening, or another technology WILL take over....plain and simple.

hdbuck

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Quote from: SISAR on November 07, 2015, 05:42:32 PM

Quote from: HostFat on November 07, 2015, 05:00:10 PM

Miners are the last one with the power to choose of force/change something.

Miners are Gods here, everyone else dance the way they want or no one and nothing dances at all because the next block would be mined around the time Universe colapses. Keep in mind that by now most miners already paid-off their hardware and can just dump mined BTC and walk away.

oh yea may them walk away hashing for nasdaq while you're at it.

Quantus

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Quote from: richardsNY on November 07, 2015, 05:45:19 PM

I will never support anything other than the original Bitcoin Core client unless the far majority of the pools and such decide otherwise. The votings tell that 99% of the votes are against XT, which says enough.

I agree they would need overwhelming support

richardsNY

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I will never support anything other than the original Bitcoin Core client unless the far majority of the pools and such decide otherwise. The votings tell that 99% of the votes are against XT, which says enough.

knight22

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Quote from: ajareselde on November 07, 2015, 05:34:14 PM

Quote from: knight22 on November 07, 2015, 05:23:34 PM

Quote from: Quantus on November 07, 2015, 05:21:08 PM

You want war, you want to force your shitty bloated alt coin into our network, you want to boot strap you shitty alt with our network and you will do it at any cost. I wouldn't be surprised if you were a paid shill for a government or corporate entity.
Larger blocks means more consolidation of full nodes. Full nodes the governments can attack. The mining pools are already consolidated. Making them easy to take over by a government body.
You want to spam the block chain so it becomes so large no single person can run a full node. This XT shit is all about power and control of the future of money. When the time comes to up max block size we will all be in agreement but that day is far off into the future.

Nope, XT is only about capacity. Keep your FUD for yourself.

Bigger capacity can lead to centralization of nodes, that's a fact. I do think that max transaction count needs to be increased some way, i just think XT ain't the best way to do it.
Do you not see how this topic is dividing the community? How can it be good then ..

cheers

indeed but most of big block proponents are all hear for another workable implementation that will better reach consensus. It just happen that XT is the only one in town ATM and they are not willing to wait forever.

SISAR

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Quote from: HostFat on November 07, 2015, 05:00:10 PM

Miners are the last one with the power to choose of force/change something.

Miners are Gods here, everyone else dance the way they want or no one and nothing dances at all because the next block would be mined around the time Universe colapses. Keep in mind that by now most miners already paid-off their hardware and can just dump mined BTC and walk away.

hdbuck

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Quote from: Quantus on November 07, 2015, 05:34:36 PM

these are the XT shills that are filling up our boards. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97LpUHFUbSw

this forum is experiencing an XTard shill ATH activity.

Quantus

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these are the XT shills that are filling up our boards. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97LpUHFUbSw

ajareselde

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Satoshi is rolling in his grave. #bitcoin

Quote from: knight22 on November 07, 2015, 05:23:34 PM

Quote from: Quantus on November 07, 2015, 05:21:08 PM

You want war, you want to force your shitty bloated alt coin into our network, you want to boot strap you shitty alt with our network and you will do it at any cost. I wouldn't be surprised if you were a paid shill for a government or corporate entity.
Larger blocks means more consolidation of full nodes. Full nodes the governments can attack. The mining pools are already consolidated. Making them easy to take over by a government body.
You want to spam the block chain so it becomes so large no single person can run a full node. This XT shit is all about power and control of the future of money. When the time comes to up max block size we will all be in agreement but that day is far off into the future.

Nope, XT is only about capacity. Keep your FUD for yourself.

Bigger capacity can lead to centralization of nodes, that's a fact. I do think that max transaction count needs to be increased some way, i just think XT ain't the best way to do it.
Do you not see how this topic is dividing the community? How can it be good then ..

cheers

brg444

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Bitcoin replaces central, not commercial, banks

Quote from: knight22 on November 07, 2015, 05:22:17 PM

Quote from: ajareselde on November 07, 2015, 05:18:07 PM

Quote from: knight22 on November 07, 2015, 05:12:05 PM

Oh come on. We just want bigger blocks right, now nothing less nothing more. You didn't get that already?

The majority of community and developers doesn't want it to happen tho.
In times like these, i really wish Satoshi makes a statement about the issue and close arguments that are separating this community into fractions. I believe everyone would follow him.

A majority wants bigger blocks even if BIP101 is have not reached a majority. Anyway that is why a fork is going to happen, because the status quo haven't managed to reach a compromise to satisfy everybody. Plain and simple. You can't force people on a path they don't want forever.

A fork is not going to happen until consensus on a path moving forward has been achieved.

You and your little clique of defectors might start thinking about creating your altcoin.

Do you understand what is at stake here? No miner is idiot enough to risk a contentious fork that split the community.

meono

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Quote from: Quantus on November 07, 2015, 05:27:36 PM

The network under its current configuration can not support larger blocks. The vast majority of nodes are small single board computers like the Raspberry Pi.
The propagation time across the network would drive orphan rates threw the roof. You would get Hard forks happening every day.

First do you even have any data to back that up?

Second, do you even know what "hard fork" means?

Quantus

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The network under its current configuration can not support larger blocks. The vast majority of nodes are small single board computers like the Raspberry Pi.
The propagation time across the network would drive orphan rates threw the roof. You would get Hard forks happening every day.

meono

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Quote from: Quantus on November 07, 2015, 05:21:08 PM

You want war, you want to force your shitty bloated alt coin into our network, you want to boot strap you shitty alt with our network and you will do it at any cost. I wouldn't be surprised if you were a paid shill for a government or corporate entity.
Larger blocks means more consolidation of full nodes. Full nodes the governments can attack. The mining pools are already consolidated. Making them easy to take over by a government body.
You want to spam the block chain so it becomes so large no single person can run a full node. This XT shit is all about power and control of the future of money. When the time comes to up max block size we will all be in agreement but that day is far off into the future.

You keep showing the world why anti XTs are just a bunch of idiots.

Yup you're doing a good job so far.

meono

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Quote from: ajareselde on November 07, 2015, 05:18:07 PM

Quote from: knight22 on November 07, 2015, 05:12:05 PM

Oh come on. We just want bigger blocks right, now nothing less nothing more. You didn't get that already?

The majority of community and developers doesn't want it to happen tho.
In times like these, i really wish Satoshi makes a statement about the issue and close arguments that are separating this community into fractions. I believe everyone would follow him.

Really? then why there are threads that do nothing but start flaming wars?

I dont see why XT supporters must "fight" to be able to choose what they want. We certainly dont want a group of ppl with conflict interests (core developers) make decision for us.

Idiots make it like there is a war when ppl want to vote by their choices.

knight22

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Quote from: Quantus on November 07, 2015, 05:21:08 PM

You want war, you want to force your shitty bloated alt coin into our network, you want to boot strap you shitty alt with our network and you will do it at any cost. I wouldn't be surprised if you were a paid shill for a government or corporate entity.
Larger blocks means more consolidation of full nodes. Full nodes the governments can attack. The mining pools are already consolidated. Making them easy to take over by a government body.
You want to spam the block chain so it becomes so large no single person can run a full node. This XT shit is all about power and control of the future of money. When the time comes to up max block size we will all be in agreement but that day is far off into the future.

Nope, XT is only about capacity. Keep your FUD for yourself.

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