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"Nadler Calls Antifa Violence A 'Myth' In Stunning Example Of DC Disconnect"

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/nadler-calls-antifa-violence-myth-stunning-example-dc-disconnect
Nadler is in a very safe district, winning each of his general elections with a margin of victory in excess of 50 points. His only real threat to being removed from office is via a primary defeat, although he appears to be a part of two parties, so even this may not be a major threat.

Due to the above, he has little incentive to do anything except tow the party line. His statement will not harm him personally, however I am curious as to how this will affect others in his party who are not in as safe of districts.
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"Seattle PD Rushed To Hospital After Leftist Detonated Explosive On His Leg, There Is A Word For This"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5gaSoO2n2M




"Nadler Calls Antifa Violence A 'Myth' In Stunning Example Of DC Disconnect"

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/nadler-calls-antifa-violence-myth-stunning-example-dc-disconnect
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an AK-47 assault rifle-wielding Garrett Foster who first took 5-unsuccessful shots at the driver of a black sedan stopped by the BLM protesters. Following which the driver who was allegedly being shot at, returned fire, killing Foster after a brief exchange of fire. The driver took 3 shots from a 9mm at Garrett which proved fatal.

A video that soon surfaced online shows Foster on record open-carrying an AK-47. The screengrabs of the shooting incident show Garrett pointing his weapon towards the vehicle.

https://www.ibtimes.co.in/austin-blm-protester-garrett-foster-killed-austin-5-ak-47-three-9mm-shots-fired-825290

Let me paraphrase this for you. "BLM supporter tries to kill but can't hit anything with five shots from rifle, is shot dead by opponent with pistol."

If you knew anything about firearms you'd know how ridiculous that was.

I read that Garret Foster might've tried to blow out the tires to prevent the car from escaping, which is why he missed 5 shots. That right there tells you he wouldn't have been justified in firing the shots because if you fear for your life, shooting out tires isn't a valid response to shoot in fear for your life.
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Trump should take steps to freeze bank accounts of those that fund ANTIFA as suggested in your article. Someone is clearly funding the terrorism occurring in Portland, and steps should be taken to cutoff the funding, so the terrorism will stop.

According to Twich and nut, the domestic terrorism by Antifa cannot be called domestic terrorism because blah-blah-blah.

Antifa are being used by ..... and the Twitch Nuts of the world don't even see it.

Trump should take steps to freeze bank accounts of those that fund ANTIFA as suggested in your article. Someone is clearly funding the terrorism occurring in Portland, and steps should be taken to cutoff the funding, so the terrorism will stop.

Antifa nothing but pawns, tools... used like puppets by the usual sources.

And catnip is out for the lions, and the tigers.

Trump should take steps to freeze bank accounts of those that fund ANTIFA as suggested in your article. Someone is clearly funding the terrorism occurring in Portland, and steps should be taken to cutoff the funding, so the terrorism will stop.

Freezing the money is so final a step. Then they know you've been watching. Leaving them open enables tracing back up the chain of command.
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Trump should take steps to freeze bank accounts of those that fund ANTIFA as suggested in your article. Someone is clearly funding the terrorism occurring in Portland, and steps should be taken to cutoff the funding, so the terrorism will stop.
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You are now acting as the sole and final arbiter as to what a terrorist organization is. That's to be expected. So long as you aren't continuing to claim that Antifa wasn't declared/designated/whatever a "terrorist organization" by the government.
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But why not look at what Trump said. "On May 31, President Donald Trump announced that the US government would designate Antifa as a terrorist organization".

That's future tense, not past.

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"Armed BLM Supporter Shot And Killed In Austin After Rushing Car, CO Leftist Shoots Another Protester"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWw1U73qVfw

Why post a video of someone else reading an article for you when you know how to read?

The headline was written as if the dead guy is a villain and the shooter a hero, but we don't know enough details to make that call.

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The dead man, identified as Garrett Foster, was pushing his paraplegic fiancee in her wheelchair just moments before the shooting.

Foster’s mother, Sheila Foster, spoke to “Good Morning America” on Sunday. She told the show that her son had attended several peaceful protests with his fiancee Whitney Mitchell, who is a quadruple amputee.

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During the demonstration, a vehicle had honked, turned down a road and then sped toward protesters, witness Michael Capochiano told the Austin American-Statesman.

Foster, who Capochiano said was carrying a rifle, approached the vehicle and was shot by the driver. The driver then drove away, Capochiano said.

But according to Foster’s mother, the man “got out of his car and started firing shots, and my son was shot three times.”

Foster was rushed to a local hospital where he was pronounced dead.

Sheila Foster told “GMA” that she wouldn’t be surprised if her son was carrying a gun because he was licensed to carry and probably “would’ve felt the need to protect himself.”

https://eurweb.com/2020/07/26/shooting-at-blm-rally-claims-life-of-man-pushing-amputee-fiancee-in-wheelchair-video/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFJO2L_kJr4



an AK-47 assault rifle-wielding Garrett Foster who first took 5-unsuccessful shots at the driver of a black sedan stopped by the BLM protesters. Following which the driver who was allegedly being shot at, returned fire, killing Foster after a brief exchange of fire. The driver took 3 shots from a 9mm at Garrett which proved fatal.

A video that soon surfaced online shows Foster on record open-carrying an AK-47. The screengrabs of the shooting incident show Garrett pointing his weapon towards the vehicle.

https://www.ibtimes.co.in/austin-blm-protester-garrett-foster-killed-austin-5-ak-47-three-9mm-shots-fired-825290

Let me paraphrase this for you. "BLM supporter tries to kill but can't hit anything with five shots from rifle, is shot dead by opponent with pistol."

If you knew anything about firearms you'd know how ridiculous that was.
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"Armed BLM Supporter Shot And Killed In Austin After Rushing Car, CO Leftist Shoots Another Protester"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWw1U73qVfw

Why post a video of someone else reading an article for you when you know how to read?

The headline was written as if the dead guy is a villain and the shooter a hero, but we don't know enough details to make that call.

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The dead man, identified as Garrett Foster, was pushing his paraplegic fiancee in her wheelchair just moments before the shooting.

Foster’s mother, Sheila Foster, spoke to “Good Morning America” on Sunday. She told the show that her son had attended several peaceful protests with his fiancee Whitney Mitchell, who is a quadruple amputee.

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During the demonstration, a vehicle had honked, turned down a road and then sped toward protesters, witness Michael Capochiano told the Austin American-Statesman.

Foster, who Capochiano said was carrying a rifle, approached the vehicle and was shot by the driver. The driver then drove away, Capochiano said.

But according to Foster’s mother, the man “got out of his car and started firing shots, and my son was shot three times.”

Foster was rushed to a local hospital where he was pronounced dead.

Sheila Foster told “GMA” that she wouldn’t be surprised if her son was carrying a gun because he was licensed to carry and probably “would’ve felt the need to protect himself.”

https://eurweb.com/2020/07/26/shooting-at-blm-rally-claims-life-of-man-pushing-amputee-fiancee-in-wheelchair-video/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFJO2L_kJr4

The video isn't for me, it is for you. I read more in a day than you do in a week. People are getting surrounded in their cars, pulled out, beat, shot, stabbed, and they surround a random vehicle on the street armed with an assault rifle, and in your mind there is a situation where the armed mob is the good guy?

This is not just about legal fault, but about being reckless, ignorant, and endangering others and then just slapping a "protest" sticker on it to absolve you of all your criminal sins. These rioters are going to be allowed to act like a bunch of large violent children, until their not, and then when they are actually stopped it will be be a holocaust and Trump will literally be Hitler, literally.
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"Armed BLM Supporter Shot And Killed In Austin After Rushing Car, CO Leftist Shoots Another Protester"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWw1U73qVfw

Why post a video of someone else reading an article for you when you know how to read?

The headline was written as if the dead guy is a villain and the shooter a hero, but we don't know enough details to make that call.

Quote
The dead man, identified as Garrett Foster, was pushing his paraplegic fiancee in her wheelchair just moments before the shooting.

Foster’s mother, Sheila Foster, spoke to “Good Morning America” on Sunday. She told the show that her son had attended several peaceful protests with his fiancee Whitney Mitchell, who is a quadruple amputee.

Quote
During the demonstration, a vehicle had honked, turned down a road and then sped toward protesters, witness Michael Capochiano told the Austin American-Statesman.

Foster, who Capochiano said was carrying a rifle, approached the vehicle and was shot by the driver. The driver then drove away, Capochiano said.

But according to Foster’s mother, the man “got out of his car and started firing shots, and my son was shot three times.”

Foster was rushed to a local hospital where he was pronounced dead.

Sheila Foster told “GMA” that she wouldn’t be surprised if her son was carrying a gun because he was licensed to carry and probably “would’ve felt the need to protect himself.”

https://eurweb.com/2020/07/26/shooting-at-blm-rally-claims-life-of-man-pushing-amputee-fiancee-in-wheelchair-video/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFJO2L_kJr4

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"Armed BLM Supporter Shot And Killed In Austin After Rushing Car, CO Leftist Shoots Another Protester"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWw1U73qVfw
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It doesn't matter who else falls under those categories. ANTIFA are terrorists. All stop. You enjoy desperately struggling to find new ways to support terrorist organizations because you agree with their goals though.

I feel like stating as fact that [any trump critic] supports terrorism is going to be the new TDS for when they can't think of anything  else of substance to say but gotta keep attacking.

That's your problem, not mine.
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It doesn't matter who else falls under those categories. ANTIFA are terrorists. All stop. You enjoy desperately struggling to find new ways to support terrorist organizations because you agree with their goals though.

I feel like stating as fact that [any trump critic] supports terrorism is going to be the new TDS for when they can't think of anything  else of substance to say but gotta keep attacking.
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Then it immediately contradicts itself by saying:

"Federal law defines terrorism as a criminal attack intended to intimidate and coerce civilians in order to influence government policy or otherwise affect government conduct."

ANTIFA and BLM fall well within that definition, and the statute in fact does exist. I am using an archived version of the site because it was intentionally scrubbed to soften the effect of the designation for political purposes. The current version has it under the "Counterterrorism and Domestic" category. I suppose you believe that means the NJ DHS thinks ANTIFA are counter-terrorists now?

You are now acting as the sole and final arbiter as to what a terrorist organization is. That's to be expected. So long as you aren't continuing to claim that Antifa wasn't declared/designated/whatever a "terrorist organization" by the government.

"Counterterrorism" and "Domestic" are two separate categories. Let's see, what other, non-Antifa reports fall under those two categories? Let's take a look.

White Racially Motivated Extremists Remain Resilient
Boogaloo Movement Gains Traction Amid Civil Unrest
Far-Right Extremists Leverage Anti-Lockdown Sentiments

And this one I think you could appreciate the most:

Disinformation Fuels Extremist Narratives

You should read it. It's about how extremists use false information to radicalize a captive audience and potentially recruit new members.

Am I? I thought I was referencing the federal statute that clearly demonstrates ANTIFA's past and current activities fall well within the federal statute definition of terrorism.


NJ DHS said this: "Anarchist Extremists: Antifa
June 12, 2017 · Domestic Terrorism"

https://archive.is/vS2Zx

That is the government designating ANTIFA terrorists. Counterterrorism is what law enforcement calls it when they go after terrorists like ANTIFA. Slapping the word domestic in front of terrorist doesn't make them less terrorists even if you did so. The fact is regardless ANTIFA is an international terrorist organization, this is all very clearly documented.

It doesn't matter who else falls under those categories. ANTIFA are terrorists. All stop. You enjoy desperately struggling to find new ways to support terrorist organizations because you agree with their goals though.
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,,,,,

You should read it. It's about how extremists use false information to radicalize a captive audience and potentially recruit new members.

What this sums up to is that you, representative of "The Left", acts and rationalizes matters to protect and shield radical, violent extremists, such as those under the umbrella of Antifa.

Squabbling over the definitions of words and whether Trump can or cannot do xyz while cities burn is quite odd...
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Then it immediately contradicts itself by saying:

"Federal law defines terrorism as a criminal attack intended to intimidate and coerce civilians in order to influence government policy or otherwise affect government conduct."

ANTIFA and BLM fall well within that definition, and the statute in fact does exist. I am using an archived version of the site because it was intentionally scrubbed to soften the effect of the designation for political purposes. The current version has it under the "Counterterrorism and Domestic" category. I suppose you believe that means the NJ DHS thinks ANTIFA are counter-terrorists now?

You are now acting as the sole and final arbiter as to what a terrorist organization is. That's to be expected. So long as you aren't continuing to claim that Antifa wasn't declared/designated/whatever a "terrorist organization" by the government.

"Counterterrorism" and "Domestic" are two separate categories. Let's see, what other, non-Antifa reports fall under those two categories? Let's take a look.

White Racially Motivated Extremists Remain Resilient
Boogaloo Movement Gains Traction Amid Civil Unrest
Far-Right Extremists Leverage Anti-Lockdown Sentiments

And this one I think you could appreciate the most:

Disinformation Fuels Extremist Narratives

You should read it. It's about how extremists use false information to radicalize a captive audience and potentially recruit new members.
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That same department also stated this:

https://www.njhomelandsecurity.gov/analysis/anarchist-extremists-support-violent-tactics
You should have picked a better article, but instead lamely chose to defend this one article's lameness.

OK, from TS's NJ Homeland Security Office website:

Domestic Terrorism in 2019

Plots, Attacks, Threats & Weapons Stockpiling

- 21 race-based extremist (19 white supremacists, 2 black supremacists)
- 14 anti-government extremist (4 militia extremists, 4 "sovereign citizens", 6 "anti-gov't")
- 7 single-issue extremist (5 anti-abortion, 2 anarchist extremists)
- 3 domestic terrorism in New Jersey (3 white supremacists)
- 2 Jersey City Shootings, December 10 (2 black separatists)

Add up the numbers any way you want, then accuse them of being communist propaganda spreaders, I guess.

Then it immediately contradicts itself by saying:

"Federal law defines terrorism as a criminal attack intended to intimidate and coerce civilians in order to influence government policy or otherwise affect government conduct."

ANTIFA and BLM fall well within that definition, and the statute in fact does exist. I am using an archived version of the site because it was intentionally scrubbed to soften the effect of the designation for political purposes. The current version has it under the "Counterterrorism and Domestic" category. I suppose you believe that means the NJ DHS thinks ANTIFA are counter-terrorists now?
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That same department also stated this:

https://www.njhomelandsecurity.gov/analysis/anarchist-extremists-support-violent-tactics
You should have picked a better article, but instead lamely chose to defend this one article's lameness.

OK, from TS's NJ Homeland Security Office website:

Domestic Terrorism in 2019

Plots, Attacks, Threats & Weapons Stockpiling

- 21 race-based extremist (19 white supremacists, 2 black supremacists)
- 14 anti-government extremist (4 militia extremists, 4 "sovereign citizens", 6 "anti-gov't")
- 7 single-issue extremist (5 anti-abortion, 2 anarchist extremists)
- 3 domestic terrorism in New Jersey (3 white supremacists)
- 2 Jersey City Shootings, December 10 (2 black separatists)

Add up the numbers any way you want, then accuse them of being communist propaganda spreaders, I guess.
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You glossed right over the fact that the government never classified them as terrorists and that your Washington Examiner article was incorrect. That's what I was pointing out to you. Re-read what I wrote, and then read what the New Jersey Homeland Security Office actually said.

"Anarchist Extremists: Antifa
June 12, 2017 · Domestic Terrorism"
"

https://archive.is/vS2Zx

Weird how this type of stuff always seems to get memory holed isn't it?

OK so where on that page does it say Antifa is being classified terrorists?

It doesn't.

It never happened.

You're lame.

Perhaps you need me to teach you to read too?
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As far as "out of date" articles, you are a fucking retard as usual. That  "out of date" article proves they were classified as terrorists by government organizations years ago, but you keep pretending it is "out of date" so you don't have to admit you were wrong, and you are willfully and publicly supporting violent murdering terrorists because you agree with their ideology.

You glossed right over the fact that the government never classified them as terrorists and that your Washington Examiner article was incorrect. That's what I was pointing out to you. Re-read what I wrote, and then read what the New Jersey Homeland Security Office actually said.

As of 7-8, there had been 23 killed in these riots.

 https://dailycaller.com/2020/07/08/23-people-died-protests-looting-violence-george-floyd-death/

Or take Wikipedia, which indicates 28 have died.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Floyd_protests

OK, that's a good start. So how many of those deaths were caused by Antifa, or does everybody who ever participated or somehow got caught up in the protest just fall under the umbrella of Antifa? One of the people in the list was shot by a cop, and another was shot by a store owner. Are they Antifa too?

Ultimately, the both of you are trying way too hard to simplify the issue so you don't have to look beyond the surface, and then you equate my attempts to peel back the surface as siding with terrorism (or communism I guess).

In short:

You're lame.

This is lame.

This whole section of the forum is a right wing cuckfest.

I forget why I even bothered.

Interesting. Actually what I thought was...

Your article was lame.

You should have picked a better article, but instead lamely chose to defend this one article's lameness.
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