Topic: Tyson Fury vs Francis Ngannou Boxing October 28 - page 6. (Read 4444 times)

The boxing community is disappointed because Fury is having a hard time imposing his skill and power on Ngannou and he is hugging too much when it should be Ngannou who should be holding because he is an MMA where fighters on MMA are used to holding or wrestling a lot, Ngannou is ready to engage but Fury keeps the distance refuse to go toe to toe and worse of all he did not try to get a knock out to even up the knockdown he suffers, so in the end even if Ngannou losses the fight he emerges the winner.
If you look at both fighters, Fury's face is bruised had a black eye and a wounded ego, he is frustrated if you try to read his body language, his alibi is Ngannou's awkwardness when it's really the power.

It wasn't really making Nganno the winner in that fight after that one knockdown.
Nevertheless, people watching that fight think Ngannou won and I think the Ngannou's hype continues as Hearn is already interested to see Francis fight against AJ while there are rumors saying Ngannou is up to fight Wilder soon.

That knockdown definitely made Francis more popular and is now capitalizing on that popularity the fact that he was also introduced in the fight as a former UFC champ. His value had grown.

They got hype since imagine a world boxing champion has been defeated by a former UFC fighter with no boxing recorded win. That win is really impressive since no one ever think that Ngannou has really chance to win against Fury since many thought Fury's experience is more greater than his opponent and he can easily dispatch Ngannou on this fight but unexpected sightings happened which make the fans shock about the result they see. Ngannou successfully defeat the champion that's why he's been so hype up on media or anywhere since that win is really amazing one. Many boxing fans take that as huge achievement gotten by Ngannou and for sure for Fury fans that lose haunt them and maybe some can't accept that but fight ended already then Ngannou is the winner on that match.

Btw, if we look on the score cards, that knockdown in third round only made it 8-10 in Ngannou favour. If there were no knockdown, there will be a UD for Fury. Dont know why people hype so much on this fight. Personally, I am simply more disappointed with Fury performance, than is happy for Ngannou performance. Some say that Ngannou won because he has dropped Fury. But this can be assessed in two ways - Fury stood after that knockdown, which could mean that Ngannou punches aint that fatal for Fury.

Francis Ngannou performance was extremely impressive against the Champion. Tyson Fury was surprised and find the match to be really a big challenge to a fighter of his status, though he didn't relent and reciprocate in the appropriate directions. Most of the viewers tagged the match as rigged but I don't think so. The system favours Tyson Fury which was quite understandable, but we can't rush into conclusion for the final results, if Francis Ngannou was this very good as they described him to be, why didn't he knockout Tyson Fury? Ofcourse he can't because it's impossible to knockout such a good fighter.

But just imagine though if Francis won the fight,

- possible rematch with Fury which could give me a bigger payday
- derail Fury's fight with Usyk
- and so the hype on his name will continue

However, maybe a draw might be a good score for this fight. But then again, this judges will not allow Francis that score. And it's funny to hear Fury saying that he did not underestimate Francis. But leading up to the fight or even during the fight itself, he thinks that Francis can't hurt him.

That's what Ngannou did, he beat Fury, nothing can change the actual result, we all watched that on TV.

C'mon, Fury with dedication and discipline? Doesn't match well together. Fury has never been dedicated or disciplined boxer, he is just a born talent who happens to be capable to beat those who really dedicate their life to boxing, Fury is a legend.

Probably, Ngannou didn't need an official win because he showed the world that he beat the number one boxer. He earned respect that he was demanding, people recognize him!

No matter what you say as long as Francis didn't win the fight, the fans will not gonna accept it because even the boxing legends are there watching the fight and most of them have said that Francis won and one of the Judges still chose to be fair rather than saving the face of the boxing industry. But the important thing is, he got the payment he deserved and still had the chance to fight anyone again in their weight division and he will still gonna make a huge profit from that for sure than he makes in the UFC.

Ngannou scored a single knockdown but boxing is scored per round. I haven't watched the fight even the replays but I saw the full punch stats. If I base the fight according to the punch stats it is 95-94 in favor of Fury. It would've been great if Ngannou won but after interpreting the punch stats I won't call it a robbery.


Real boxing is still alive and some say it is getting bigger and better while some say it is dying or slowing down. It's a combination of both because financially boxing stars are getting huge paydays which I believe are just too much, reason why legendary networks like HBO and Showtime are leaving boxing. In terms of PPV buys, boxing numbers are decreasing. I agree with Bob Arum that PPVs as much as possible should be prohibited or at least their prices should be lowered to 50% to 75% of their current rates. Politics in boxing is becoming bigger and it is stopping the big fights from happening. Before, there were only HBO and Showtime and the promoters could work both. Nowadays, there's DAZN, ESPN, and Showtime (soon leaving boxing) and these networks have exclusive deals with promoters establishing their own stars and fanbase.

There are only a few boxing hardcore so it is the casuals that will fill PPV buys. Celebrities once were used to market fights but currently, some of them are interested in fighting and nothing can stop them from doing that especially since the promoters and networks are also willing to exploit the opportunity. But to those still wanting real fights they can just tune in to DAZN, ESPN, Showtime, etc. because all of these networks usually have events every weekend.

There are different opinions from the vast majority that watch the fight between Tyson Fury and Francis Ngannou. It was an interesting fight match and everyone was tense with the suspense actions exhibited by the fighters. Tyson Fury remain the champ, although most of the audiences booed him, that's doesn't matter. You can expect the panel to announce Francis Ngannou as the winner simply because he gave a super punch that made Fury fall to his knees, ofcourse he didn't tap out or the referee counting for him. If Francis Ngannou wants to win a match fight with Fury, he should knock him out, that's how to win.

The only excuse that can be accepted - if Ngannou really claim he won the fight, then he should have knocked out cold Fury. Even if your boxing is better, the fact that you cant show its fully and your opponent is a champ, judges will give him a victory anyway. That knockdown only changed fights result from UD to split. If you want to win a champion, then a knockout is the only solution or total dominance. Ngannou did not show total dominance during 10 rounds. So the result is fair.

P.S. For that clean elbow that Fury landed, Ngannou should have landed a lowkick in return

There's more to unpack here. The reputation of the entire boxing as a sport was on the line here. If someone who represents mma and who had zero boxing matches before the fight can just step in and defeat the undisputed champion of the sport. A champion who dedicated his life to mastering this one discipline. Then what good is the sport really? Why bother watching boxing if mma fighters are just as good (or better) in this element of fighting and in all the other elements as well?

And I don't think Ngannou needed an official win here. He's already perceived as a winner anyhow.

Uhmm... I really think that fight wasn't rigged.
Tyson fury won for more rounds than he did, how could they have given off a trophy like that to a single KO? ( That wasn't even a KO, that was a knock down).

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well, he's supposed to be proud of his prowess anyways...not disputing that fact, "buh let's call a spade by it name" the referee gave a wonder decision - the panels did too .. just that it doesn't have to tally with everyone's proposal.

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Exactly, fight with Usik will be super risky and will super negatively affect Fury's career. He has to either take fight seriously or continue drinking alcohol and doing coke. Yes, Fury is super talented, he is like a Messi but in boxing, though, this alone won't help him if he is not going to train seriously.

When fight is very close, a newbie probably shouldn't expect to deserve the sympathy of judges because this sport is corrupt but when there is a difference like day and night and judge still says that Fury wins while he got KOed and wasn't really doing anything on the ring, then yeah, it's a moment of cry and sadness, the feeling of injustice. Ngannou needed to win but he knows that it has no meaning to protest it and probably will do more harm than good for him.

just what I also thought of for the decision has been officially made and there's nothing our ranting can do about it to changing the judges verdict. But one thing for sure is that a clear message has been sent in the ring by Francis to the boxing community  that the MMA shouldn't be underrated. Giving those monster  punches fury received staggering to the ground I believe he couldn't believe what hit him. Francis should have to move on for he has already made history and further set a new path for his career as he would always be remembered as the man who knocks down the heavy weight boxing champ on October 28th, 2023.  The fight was just an exhibition fight for the money men and not with an intention to relinquish victory to an MMA fighter.

Yup, he's 37, so he has no time to waste and won't be able to focus on both, MMA and boxing, he'd have to choose one.
But he's not even ranked yet so don't think he could just jump in and fight in official fights against the top boxers. Allowing him to do that would make any boxing federation look silly.
And money-wise, it's not like his every boxing fight will bring the same payout. So I anticipate he might do another exhibition fight with someone from the top (perhaps a rematch with Fury, but this won't be anytime soon) and then go back to MMA, provided he'll be offered high enough contract.
Then again, sticking to boxing could extend the length of his career. If he still wants to compete in his early 40s, it's more doable in boxing than in MMA.

What embarrassment?  This is a deliberate strategy that the coward Fury followed to avoid a rematch with Klitschko, and then trying to avoid a fight with Usyk. Apparently the fight with Ngannou brought Fury back to earth (to the canvas haha) and he realized that a fight with Usik would be too risky. Now I again think that we will not see this fight because Fury will avoid it in all possible ways.

Seeing how he was cheated from winning in the first fight, Francis will be going for the knock out in this fight because with that nobody will be able to deny him the victory. Wilder will loose this fight, because Francis Ngannou will both be feeling pumped from having a good fight against Fury and also angered from having a good fight and still not winning it. Wilder has to work hard if he is going to beat Francis Ngannou because Tyson by his side, he is doing well without even having many boxing experience.

I would say it is not even about the rounds but more about knockdowns, Ngannou had knockdowns, as far as I can remember Fury didn't had any, so I would give the fight to Ngannou. However, that is not even the point, are we going to keep seeing these exhibition games from now on? I mean looking at this years most watched boxing matches, it is KSI vs Fury, it is Logan Paul vs Dillon Danis, it is this fight, I mean these are all exhibition style fights and definitely do not really look like proper fights. I miss the good old days when the top two ranked fighters fought against each other and you were wondering who would win, not just about who had more followers.

I understand marketing is part of the game, but back in the day you would find fighters, and then made marketing around them, not find marketing people and then made them fight. This is starting to feel like boxing has lost all its attention and running its course, it can't sustain like this forever.

Of course it won't change anything, the judges decision is always final. But this result is going to be discussed for many years in my opinion. And there could be different opinions as you have seen in the discussion here. There are fans who think that Francis won, or just like what you said, it could have been at least a draw. But the judges are not going to do that because it will derail the biggest heavyweight fight schedule in December (although this is not going to happen now because of the result of this fight as Fury will need to rest). Everything is about the money, boxing is business and so that judges could be in that two as this sports is corrupt as well.