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The scorecard was understandably confusing. Two judges had it in favour of Fury while one had it in favour of Ngannou. If the first judge scored the bout 95/94 in favour of Ngannou and the second judge scored it 95/94 in favour of Fury, how did the third judge score the bout 96/93 in favour of Fury especially after he was the one who was knocked down?

Most of the urgency, aggression and intent was by Ngannou because Fury completely underestimated what was going to happen in the ring. Fury looked as though he was a shadow of his former self. He needs to go back to the drawing board before he takes on Usyk otherwise he will lose the fight:
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Quote from: TopTort777 on November 02, 2023, 07:27:10 AM

Imho a lot of people dont understand boxing and its fight evaluation system. Thanks God we have 3 judges there, not just one. A lot of people dont count the number of landed punches, activity in the ring, if the fighter is more active or passive during the fight and etc. All they see is - if one boxer landed a punch and after that his opponent has blood on the face, then he is winner. If one boxer sends his opponent to a knockdown (and it does not matter, if was a real knockdown or the boxer just slipped), then he is 200% fight winner.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on November 02, 2023, 07:27:10 AM

Imho a lot of people dont understand boxing and its fight evaluation system. Thanks God we have 3 judges there, not just one. A lot of people dont count the number of landed punches, activity in the ring, if the fighter is more active or passive during the fight and etc. All they see is - if one boxer landed a punch and after that his opponent has blood on the face, then he is winner. If one boxer sends his opponent to a knockdown (and it does not matter, if was a real knockdown or the boxer just slipped), then he is 200% fight winner.

Most of us don't really study how to judge a fight based on the criteria followed by real judges. We often rely more on our feelings about the fight, and because we have a fighter we support, our decision might be biased, which is why we often claim that our fighter won the fight. However, it's essential to remember that judges' decisions are final. They are experts who do this as their profession, so we shouldn't question them unless they have a bad reputation. Since the fight ended closely, it's likely that there was no rigging of the decision. It seems to be a fair decision.

But I'd like to ask, did Ngannou protest? If not, then we shouldn't continue to make it an issue and move on.

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Imho a lot of people dont understand boxing and its fight evaluation system. Thanks God we have 3 judges there, not just one. A lot of people dont count the number of landed punches, activity in the ring, if the fighter is more active or passive during the fight and etc. All they see is - if one boxer landed a punch and after that his opponent has blood on the face, then he is winner. If one boxer sends his opponent to a knockdown (and it does not matter, if was a real knockdown or the boxer just slipped), then he is 200% fight winner.

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Real boxing is still alive and some say it is getting bigger and better while some say it is dying or slowing down. It's a combination of both because financially boxing stars are getting huge paydays which I believe are just too much, reason why legendary networks like HBO and Showtime are leaving boxing. In terms of PPV buys, boxing numbers are decreasing. I agree with Bob Arum that PPVs as much as possible should be prohibited or at least their prices should be lowered to 50% to 75% of their current rates. Politics in boxing is becoming bigger and it is stopping the big fights from happening. Before, there were only HBO and Showtime and the promoters could work both. Nowadays, there's DAZN, ESPN, and Showtime (soon leaving boxing) and these networks have exclusive deals with promoters establishing their own stars and fanbase.

The entire entertainment industry is changing, with sports being part of it. People are moving away from watching television in favour of shorter, more intense, on-demand entertainment like they get on social media. A lot of people, myself included, often choose to just watch highlights for free, rather than spend long hours watching the entire events live.

Add to that the growing popularity of MMA and celebrity boxing and no wonder the traditional (aka "real") boxing is losing numbers. But I don't think it's at risk of dying out completely. The promotors would have to go more toward building boxers' popularity and selling the story, rather than relying only on the sport's value.

True. There are a lot of entertainment options now for fight fans nowadays. I still watch fights live but only for championship fights that are also not mismatched or late-noticed opponents.

MMA continues to grow big. Even UFC PPV events have higher numbers than many boxing events although big portions of the proceeds usually go to Dana and the UFC. MMA might start to have its own backlash soon once organizations come close to each other and fight fans' demand for some cross-organization fights which would be more difficult to make than boxing's networks and promotional feuds.

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Before the fight, Fury was very confidence and I believed he might not even train well because he thought Francis was not going to be able to endure up to round 10 but it was unfortunate for him that Francis was able to knock him down to our surprised. I hope their is going to be a rematch because we need to see what's popping and what will be the fate of Fury after all his pride and confidence.

A rematch would make sense. I'm not sure if it would attract more viewers (and more money) than the first fight, but it has a huge hype potential, it could be marketed as a fight deciding on the future of boxing: if Fury wins, things go back to normal, if he loses - this proves boxing is not a serious sport if someone not specialised in it can just get in and beat the champion.
Fury said in an interview that he wouldn't mind a rematch,

There's no doubt that this rematch will generate significantly more revenue than the first fight. People are already emotionally invested in this rematch due to the controversial outcome of their initial bout. Fury is undoubtedly willing to partake, and Ngannou is unlikely to decline the substantial purse that will likely surpass the earnings from their previous encounter, thanks to his established reputation in the world of boxing. He's proven to be a tough opponent, unlike some of the other boxers whom Fury has easily dispatched.

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but it'll have to be after the fight with Usyk. And I think it would be best if it was done immediately.

This fight is likely gonna happen next year, so most likely the rematch would happen in the 3rd quarter or the last quarter of next year. Nevertheless, this extended period provides both fighters with ample time for rigorous training. It's particularly important for Ngannou, giving him the opportunity to focus on enhancing his stamina and maintaining his power in the later rounds, where he previously lost by a small margin.

if they will sched the rematch next year, i believe, they will still get a very good purse from this fight. as this fight left a lot more questions, this rematch will be an interesting one. this fight itself attracted big names in the sports world with the likes of ronaldo and pacquiao and other boxing legends.
so the promoters will have pocket a lot on this rematch. but the pay cut, they need to discuss about it. but it seems fury is the slight favourite on this possible rematch.

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Before the fight, Fury was very confidence and I believed he might not even train well because he thought Francis was not going to be able to endure up to round 10 but it was unfortunate for him that Francis was able to knock him down to our surprised. I hope their is going to be a rematch because we need to see what's popping and what will be the fate of Fury after all his pride and confidence.

A rematch would make sense. I'm not sure if it would attract more viewers (and more money) than the first fight, but it has a huge hype potential, it could be marketed as a fight deciding on the future of boxing: if Fury wins, things go back to normal, if he loses - this proves boxing is not a serious sport if someone not specialised in it can just get in and beat the champion.
Fury said in an interview that he wouldn't mind a rematch,

There's no doubt that this rematch will generate significantly more revenue than the first fight. People are already emotionally invested in this rematch due to the controversial outcome of their initial bout. Fury is undoubtedly willing to partake, and Ngannou is unlikely to decline the substantial purse that will likely surpass the earnings from their previous encounter, thanks to his established reputation in the world of boxing. He's proven to be a tough opponent, unlike some of the other boxers whom Fury has easily dispatched.

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but it'll have to be after the fight with Usyk. And I think it would be best if it was done immediately.

This fight is likely gonna happen next year, so most likely the rematch would happen in the 3rd quarter or the last quarter of next year. Nevertheless, this extended period provides both fighters with ample time for rigorous training. It's particularly important for Ngannou, giving him the opportunity to focus on enhancing his stamina and maintaining his power in the later rounds, where he previously lost by a small margin.

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Quote from: Wakate on November 01, 2023, 05:19:29 PM

Before the fight, Fury was very confidence and I believed he might not even train well because he thought Francis was not going to be able to endure up to round 10 but it was unfortunate for him that Francis was able to knock him down to our surprised. I hope their is going to be a rematch because we need to see what's popping and what will be the fate of Fury after all his pride and confidence.

A rematch would make sense. I'm not sure if it would attract more viewers (and more money) than the first fight, but it has a huge hype potential, it could be marketed as a fight deciding on the future of boxing: if Fury wins, things go back to normal, if he loses - this proves boxing is not a serious sport if someone not specialised in it can just get in and beat the champion.
Fury said in an interview that he wouldn't mind a rematch, but it'll have to be after the fight with Usyk. And I think it would be best if it was done immediately.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on November 01, 2023, 04:45:41 AM

The only excuse that can be accepted - if Ngannou really claim he won the fight, then he should have knocked out cold Fury. Even if your boxing is better, the fact that you cant show its fully and your opponent is a champ, judges will give him a victory anyway. That knockdown only changed fights result from UD to split. If you want to win a champion, then a knockout is the only solution or total dominance. Ngannou did not show total dominance during 10 rounds. So the result is fair.

P.S. For that clean elbow that Fury landed, Ngannou should have landed a lowkick in return Cheesy

I was so surprised and at the same time impressed even though Francis could not win the fight. Although there had been different agitation that fury was not supposed to be crown the winner looking at the nature of the fight. That was not my interest because the judgement is always determined by the team that in responsible for boxing regularities.

Before the fight, Fury was very confidence and I believed he might not even train well because he thought Francis was not going to be able to endure up to round 10 but it was unfortunate for him that Francis was able to knock him down to our surprised. I hope their is going to be a rematch because we need to see what's popping and what will be the fate of Fury after all his pride and confidence.

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Quote from: inthelongrun on November 01, 2023, 06:39:54 AM

Real boxing is still alive and some say it is getting bigger and better while some say it is dying or slowing down. It's a combination of both because financially boxing stars are getting huge paydays which I believe are just too much, reason why legendary networks like HBO and Showtime are leaving boxing. In terms of PPV buys, boxing numbers are decreasing. I agree with Bob Arum that PPVs as much as possible should be prohibited or at least their prices should be lowered to 50% to 75% of their current rates. Politics in boxing is becoming bigger and it is stopping the big fights from happening. Before, there were only HBO and Showtime and the promoters could work both. Nowadays, there's DAZN, ESPN, and Showtime (soon leaving boxing) and these networks have exclusive deals with promoters establishing their own stars and fanbase.

The entire entertainment industry is changing, with sports being part of it. People are moving away from watching television in favour of shorter, more intense, on-demand entertainment like they get on social media. A lot of people, myself included, often choose to just watch highlights for free, rather than spend long hours watching the entire events live.

Add to that the growing popularity of MMA and celebrity boxing and no wonder the traditional (aka "real") boxing is losing numbers. But I don't think it's at risk of dying out completely. The promotors would have to go more toward building boxers' popularity and selling the story, rather than relying only on the sport's value.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on November 01, 2023, 04:45:41 AM

The only excuse that can be accepted - if Ngannou really claim he won the fight, then he should have knocked out cold Fury. Even if your boxing is better, the fact that you cant show its fully and your opponent is a champ, judges will give him a victory anyway. That knockdown only changed fights result from UD to split. If you want to win a champion, then a knockout is the only solution or total dominance. Ngannou did not show total dominance during 10 rounds. So the result is fair.

P.S. For that clean elbow that Fury landed, Ngannou should have landed a lowkick in return Cheesy

You described an absolutely correct algorithm for how the winner is determined in title fights, but I would not say that the conclusion “everything is fair” is logical. I would say that this is a dirty business (where big brands are needed and not justice) so we have what we have.

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Apparently the fight with Ngannou brought Fury back to earth (to the canvas haha) and he realized that a fight with Usik would be too risky. Now I again think that we will not see this fight because Fury will avoid it in all possible ways.

Exactly, fight with Usik will be super risky and will super negatively affect Fury's career. He has to either take fight seriously or continue drinking alcohol and doing coke.~

Perhaps Fury wants to catch a boar pumped full of nandrolone again and eat it whole Grin

Therefore, he will delay the fight with Usik as long as possible.

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But just imagine though if Francis won the fight,

- possible rematch with Fury which could give me a bigger payday
- derail Fury's fight with Usyk
- and so the hype on his name will continue

However, maybe a draw might be a good score for this fight. But then again, this judges will not allow Francis that score. And it's funny to hear Fury saying that he did not underestimate Francis. But leading up to the fight or even during the fight itself, he thinks that Francis can't hurt him.

Btw, if we look on the score cards, that knockdown in third round only made it 8-10 in Ngannou favour. If there were no knockdown, there will be a UD for Fury. Dont know why people hype so much on this fight. Personally, I am simply more disappointed with Fury performance, than is happy for Ngannou performance. Some say that Ngannou won because he has dropped Fury. But this can be assessed in two ways - Fury stood after that knockdown, which could mean that Ngannou punches aint that fatal for Fury.

The boxing community is disappointed because Fury is having a hard time imposing his skill and power on Ngannou and he is hugging too much when it should be Ngannou who should be holding because he is an MMA where fighters on MMA are used to holding or wrestling a lot, Ngannou is ready to engage but Fury keeps the distance refuse to go toe to toe and worse of all he did not try to get a knock out to even up the knockdown he suffers, so in the end even if Ngannou losses the fight he emerges the winner.
If you look at both fighters, Fury's face is bruised had a black eye and a wounded ego, he is frustrated if you try to read his body language, his alibi is Ngannou's awkwardness when it's really the power.

The boxing community may eventually move past what happened if Fury manages to defeat Usyk in their unification match. It wasn't entirely clear that Fury lost that game; it was a closely contested match, and either fighter could have emerged victorious. That's the nature of boxing, my friend – not everything unfolds as we expect. Even if the boxing community is somewhat dissatisfied, I'm confident that some experts still believe Fury won the fight.

I think the boxing community will move on, but it might take some time though even if he defeats Usyk in December or next year. But for sure the aura of his invincibility has been questioned right now as he narrowly defeated a MMA boxer, getting knock down in the process.

Also to add, just one punch will change everything, like when Francis scored that knock down, Fury changes his style and again, almost upset because he was change off guard by how Francis shows him in this fight and acknowledge that it was a tough fight for him.

Fury could easily whip up an excuse, like not taking the fight seriously because it wasn't for a championship. The world of boxing is full of surprises, and some of it might just be for the fans' entertainment, building up the hype for a potential rematch. It's a business, after all, and you never really know if the outcome is genuine.

But should they go head-to-head again in a rematch, I'm certain Fury will be better prepared and show respect for Ngannou's power. It's a match that's likely to happen because big money is already guaranteed to be made, regardless of the outcome of Fury's bout against Usyk.

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But just imagine though if Francis won the fight,

- possible rematch with Fury which could give me a bigger payday
- derail Fury's fight with Usyk
- and so the hype on his name will continue

However, maybe a draw might be a good score for this fight. But then again, this judges will not allow Francis that score. And it's funny to hear Fury saying that he did not underestimate Francis. But leading up to the fight or even during the fight itself, he thinks that Francis can't hurt him.

Btw, if we look on the score cards, that knockdown in third round only made it 8-10 in Ngannou favour. If there were no knockdown, there will be a UD for Fury. Dont know why people hype so much on this fight. Personally, I am simply more disappointed with Fury performance, than is happy for Ngannou performance. Some say that Ngannou won because he has dropped Fury. But this can be assessed in two ways - Fury stood after that knockdown, which could mean that Ngannou punches aint that fatal for Fury.

The boxing community is disappointed because Fury is having a hard time imposing his skill and power on Ngannou and he is hugging too much when it should be Ngannou who should be holding because he is an MMA where fighters on MMA are used to holding or wrestling a lot, Ngannou is ready to engage but Fury keeps the distance refuse to go toe to toe and worse of all he did not try to get a knock out to even up the knockdown he suffers, so in the end even if Ngannou losses the fight he emerges the winner.
If you look at both fighters, Fury's face is bruised had a black eye and a wounded ego, he is frustrated if you try to read his body language, his alibi is Ngannou's awkwardness when it's really the power.

The boxing community may eventually move past what happened if Fury manages to defeat Usyk in their unification match. It wasn't entirely clear that Fury lost that game; it was a closely contested match, and either fighter could have emerged victorious. That's the nature of boxing, my friend – not everything unfolds as we expect. Even if the boxing community is somewhat dissatisfied, I'm confident that some experts still believe Fury won the fight.

I think the boxing community will move on, but it might take some time though even if he defeats Usyk in December or next year. But for sure the aura of his invincibility has been questioned right now as he narrowly defeated a MMA boxer, getting knock down in the process.

Also to add, just one punch will change everything, like when Francis scored that knock down, Fury changes his style and again, almost upset because he was change off guard by how Francis shows him in this fight and acknowledge that it was a tough fight for him.

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But just imagine though if Francis won the fight,

- possible rematch with Fury which could give me a bigger payday
- derail Fury's fight with Usyk
- and so the hype on his name will continue

However, maybe a draw might be a good score for this fight. But then again, this judges will not allow Francis that score. And it's funny to hear Fury saying that he did not underestimate Francis. But leading up to the fight or even during the fight itself, he thinks that Francis can't hurt him.

Btw, if we look on the score cards, that knockdown in third round only made it 8-10 in Ngannou favour. If there were no knockdown, there will be a UD for Fury. Dont know why people hype so much on this fight. Personally, I am simply more disappointed with Fury performance, than is happy for Ngannou performance. Some say that Ngannou won because he has dropped Fury. But this can be assessed in two ways - Fury stood after that knockdown, which could mean that Ngannou punches aint that fatal for Fury.

The boxing community is disappointed because Fury is having a hard time imposing his skill and power on Ngannou and he is hugging too much when it should be Ngannou who should be holding because he is an MMA where fighters on MMA are used to holding or wrestling a lot, Ngannou is ready to engage but Fury keeps the distance refuse to go toe to toe and worse of all he did not try to get a knock out to even up the knockdown he suffers, so in the end even if Ngannou losses the fight he emerges the winner.
If you look at both fighters, Fury's face is bruised had a black eye and a wounded ego, he is frustrated if you try to read his body language, his alibi is Ngannou's awkwardness when it's really the power.

The boxing community may eventually move past what happened if Fury manages to defeat Usyk in their unification match. It wasn't entirely clear that Fury lost that game; it was a closely contested match, and either fighter could have emerged victorious. That's the nature of boxing, my friend – not everything unfolds as we expect. Even if the boxing community is somewhat dissatisfied, I'm confident that some experts still believe Fury won the fight.

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But just imagine though if Francis won the fight,

- possible rematch with Fury which could give me a bigger payday
- derail Fury's fight with Usyk
- and so the hype on his name will continue

However, maybe a draw might be a good score for this fight. But then again, this judges will not allow Francis that score. And it's funny to hear Fury saying that he did not underestimate Francis. But leading up to the fight or even during the fight itself, he thinks that Francis can't hurt him.

Btw, if we look on the score cards, that knockdown in third round only made it 8-10 in Ngannou favour. If there were no knockdown, there will be a UD for Fury. Dont know why people hype so much on this fight. Personally, I am simply more disappointed with Fury performance, than is happy for Ngannou performance. Some say that Ngannou won because he has dropped Fury. But this can be assessed in two ways - Fury stood after that knockdown, which could mean that Ngannou punches aint that fatal for Fury.

The boxing community is disappointed because Fury is having a hard time imposing his skill and power on Ngannou and he is hugging too much when it should be Ngannou who should be holding because he is an MMA where fighters on MMA are used to holding or wrestling a lot, Ngannou is ready to engage but Fury keeps the distance refuse to go toe to toe and worse of all he did not try to get a knock out to even up the knockdown he suffers, so in the end even if Ngannou losses the fight he emerges the winner.
If you look at both fighters, Fury's face is bruised had a black eye and a wounded ego, he is frustrated if you try to read his body language, his alibi is Ngannou's awkwardness when it's really the power.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on November 01, 2023, 09:31:16 AM

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But just imagine though if Francis won the fight,

- possible rematch with Fury which could give me a bigger payday
- derail Fury's fight with Usyk
- and so the hype on his name will continue

However, maybe a draw might be a good score for this fight. But then again, this judges will not allow Francis that score. And it's funny to hear Fury saying that he did not underestimate Francis. But leading up to the fight or even during the fight itself, he thinks that Francis can't hurt him.

Btw, if we look on the score cards, that knockdown in third round only made it 8-10 in Ngannou favour. If there were no knockdown, there will be a UD for Fury. Dont know why people hype so much on this fight. Personally, I am simply more disappointed with Fury performance, than is happy for Ngannou performance. Some say that Ngannou won because he has dropped Fury. But this can be assessed in two ways - Fury stood after that knockdown, which could mean that Ngannou punches aint that fatal for Fury.

It wasn't really making Nganno the winner in that fight after that one knockdown.
Nevertheless, people watching that fight think Ngannou won and I think the Ngannou's hype continues as Hearn is already interested to see Francis fight against AJ while there are rumors saying Ngannou is up to fight Wilder soon.

That knockdown definitely made Francis more popular and is now capitalizing on that popularity the fact that he was also introduced in the fight as a former UFC champ. His value had grown.

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But just imagine though if Francis won the fight,

- possible rematch with Fury which could give me a bigger payday
- derail Fury's fight with Usyk
- and so the hype on his name will continue

However, maybe a draw might be a good score for this fight. But then again, this judges will not allow Francis that score. And it's funny to hear Fury saying that he did not underestimate Francis. But leading up to the fight or even during the fight itself, he thinks that Francis can't hurt him.

Btw, if we look on the score cards, that knockdown in third round only made it 8-10 in Ngannou favour. If there were no knockdown, there will be a UD for Fury. Dont know why people hype so much on this fight. Personally, I am simply more disappointed with Fury performance, than is happy for Ngannou performance. Some say that Ngannou won because he has dropped Fury. But this can be assessed in two ways - Fury stood after that knockdown, which could mean that Ngannou punches aint that fatal for Fury.

They got hype since imagine a world boxing champion has been defeated by a former UFC fighter with no boxing recorded win. That win is really impressive since no one ever think that Ngannou has really chance to win against Fury since many thought Fury's experience is more greater than his opponent and he can easily dispatch Ngannou on this fight but unexpected sightings happened which make the fans shock about the result they see. Ngannou successfully defeat the champion that's why he's been so hype up on media or anywhere since that win is really amazing one. Many boxing fans take that as huge achievement gotten by Ngannou and for sure for Fury fans that lose haunt them and maybe some can't accept that but fight ended already then Ngannou is the winner on that match.

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Quote from: btc_angela on November 01, 2023, 08:00:55 AM

But just imagine though if Francis won the fight,

- possible rematch with Fury which could give me a bigger payday
- derail Fury's fight with Usyk
- and so the hype on his name will continue

However, maybe a draw might be a good score for this fight. But then again, this judges will not allow Francis that score. And it's funny to hear Fury saying that he did not underestimate Francis. But leading up to the fight or even during the fight itself, he thinks that Francis can't hurt him.

Btw, if we look on the score cards, that knockdown in third round only made it 8-10 in Ngannou favour. If there were no knockdown, there will be a UD for Fury. Dont know why people hype so much on this fight. Personally, I am simply more disappointed with Fury performance, than is happy for Ngannou performance. Some say that Ngannou won because he has dropped Fury. But this can be assessed in two ways - Fury stood after that knockdown, which could mean that Ngannou punches aint that fatal for Fury.

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Quote from: xLays on October 30, 2023, 11:31:57 PM

Some of you think Francis should have won, but the match should have been a draw IMO. He did okay, but not well enough to win. It just one round. Tyson Fury won every round according to the judges, even though he wasn't his best. But, the result won't change, so let's move on. It's all about the money!

Francis Ngannou performance was extremely impressive against the Champion. Tyson Fury was surprised and find the match to be really a big challenge to a fighter of his status, though he didn't relent and reciprocate in the appropriate directions. Most of the viewers tagged the match as rigged but I don't think so. The system favours Tyson Fury which was quite understandable, but we can't rush into conclusion for the final results, if Francis Ngannou was this very good as they described him to be, why didn't he knockout Tyson Fury? Ofcourse he can't because it's impossible to knockout such a good fighter.

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Quote from: xLays on October 30, 2023, 11:31:57 PM

Some of you think Francis should have won, but the match should have been a draw IMO. He did okay, but not well enough to win. It just one round. Tyson Fury won every round according to the judges, even though he wasn't his best. But, the result won't change, so let's move on. It's all about the money!

No matter what you say as long as Francis didn't win the fight, the fans will not gonna accept it because even the boxing legends are there watching the fight and most of them have said that Francis won and one of the Judges still chose to be fair rather than saving the face of the boxing industry. But the important thing is, he got the payment he deserved and still had the chance to fight anyone again in their weight division and he will still gonna make a huge profit from that for sure than he makes in the UFC.

But just imagine though if Francis won the fight,

- possible rematch with Fury which could give me a bigger payday
- derail Fury's fight with Usyk
- and so the hype on his name will continue

However, maybe a draw might be a good score for this fight. But then again, this judges will not allow Francis that score. And it's funny to hear Fury saying that he did not underestimate Francis. But leading up to the fight or even during the fight itself, he thinks that Francis can't hurt him.

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Quote from: pawel7777 on October 31, 2023, 05:54:18 PM

There's more to unpack here. The reputation of the entire boxing as a sport was on the line here. If someone who represents mma and who had zero boxing matches before the fight can just step in and defeat the undisputed champion of the sport.

That's what Ngannou did, he beat Fury, nothing can change the actual result, we all watched that on TV.

Quote from: pawel7777 on October 31, 2023, 05:54:18 PM

A champion who dedicated his life to mastering this one discipline.

C'mon, Fury with dedication and discipline? Doesn't match well together. Fury has never been dedicated or disciplined boxer, he is just a born talent who happens to be capable to beat those who really dedicate their life to boxing, Fury is a legend.

Quote from: pawel7777 on October 31, 2023, 05:54:18 PM

And I don't think Ngannou needed an official win here. He's already perceived as a winner anyhow.

Probably, Ngannou didn't need an official win because he showed the world that he beat the number one boxer. He earned respect that he was demanding, people recognize him!

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