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December 25, 2022, 11:40:01 AM
If Mbappe wants to be compared to Messi or Ronaldo, he has to leave PSG. The league is too weak and league titles there are meaningless.

He wants to go to Madrid, but I feel that the Messi/Ronaldo kind of rivalry will happen between him and Haaland. I hope we see them in the same league soon (preferably Premiership).

The thing with Ronaldo and Messi is also that they lasted 15+ years on an elite, record-breaking levels.
Mbappe and Haaland have just started, they have to play at the same level they are playing now throughout their whole careers to be able to compare to either one of them.
Even though he went to the Premier League, it doesn't mean that Mbappe can be compared to Lionel Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo. Indeed he has very good abilities, but the question is can he continue to be in good consistency and last -+15 years as you say? That is a question that will be answered until Mbappe is playing at the same level after 15 years. I wouldn't say it's impossible, but it would be very difficult to do.
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December 25, 2022, 11:36:12 AM
If Mbappe wants to be compared to Messi or Ronaldo, he has to leave PSG. The league is too weak and league titles there are meaningless.

He wants to go to Madrid, but I feel that the Messi/Ronaldo kind of rivalry will happen between him and Haaland. I hope we see them in the same league soon (preferably Premiership).

The thing with Ronaldo and Messi is also that they lasted 15+ years on an elite, record-breaking levels.
Mbappe and Haaland have just started, they have to play at the same level they are playing now throughout their whole careers to be able to compare to either one of them.
Mbappe has shown extraordinary skills during world cup.
and thers is no doubt about his skills however he will play in PSG and that is his identity
Messi and Ronaldo are amazing but they are growing  old too so young players are coming forth.
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December 25, 2022, 11:09:56 AM
If Mbappe wants to be compared to Messi or Ronaldo, he has to leave PSG. The league is too weak and league titles there are meaningless.

He wants to go to Madrid, but I feel that the Messi/Ronaldo kind of rivalry will happen between him and Haaland. I hope we see them in the same league soon (preferably Premiership).

The thing with Ronaldo and Messi is also that they lasted 15+ years on an elite, record-breaking levels.
Mbappe and Haaland have just started, they have to play at the same level they are playing now throughout their whole careers to be able to compare to either one of them.
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December 25, 2022, 10:58:17 AM
This era has already arrived. If Mbappe had been promoted as it was with the beginning of Messi's career, then he would already have a 3-4 balloon D'Ors.
As for the results, they are also eloquent: in 2022, Mbappe scored 55 goals in 55 games, and Haaland 43 goals in 41 games. With Mbappe's phenomenal World Cup performance and Haaland's excellent goalscoring schedule for City, it's clear who will compete for the top 1 in the coming years.
I think Kylian Mbappe will never match Messi. Messi's football career has such achievements. If any other player wants to achieve that, he has to become an incomparable player. And Kylian Mbappe plays well but I don't like his personal behavior at all, he is a selfish footballer.
Kylian Mbappe is very difficult to match what Messi has achieved, I admit that Kylian Mbappe is one of the most potential young players after the era of Messi and Ronaldo. Maybe Mbappe will be the best player after Messi don't play anymore, but Mbappe has to win the Champions League from now on.
The PSG squad is on the way to the Champions, the player material that PSG has can make it difficult for other clubs to win. Bayern Munich is a challenge for PSG, Mbappe is still a mainstay on PSG front line along with Neymar and Messi. The front line trio owned by PSG must appear like when they defended their country in the World Cup to bring PSG closer to the UCL trophy.
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December 25, 2022, 10:56:39 AM
Mbappe's dream to play in same team with Ronaldo is almost impossible at this time of his career because Mbappe is currently a PSG player and the probability of Ronaldo playing for PSG or Real Madrid before he retires is very low. I doubt it will even happen at this point. If Ronaldo completes a move to the Arab league it might be his last club to play for until he retires so I doubt it is going to happen. The era of Messi and Ronaldo is close to the end and the beginning of a new era for Haaland and Mbappe.
This era has already arrived. If Mbappe had been promoted as it was with the beginning of Messi's career, then he would already have a 3-4 balloon D'Ors.
As for the results, they are also eloquent: in 2022, Mbappe scored 55 goals in 55 games, and Haaland 43 goals in 41 games. With Mbappe's phenomenal World Cup performance and Haaland's excellent goalscoring schedule for City, it's clear who will compete for the top 1 in the coming years.
I think Kylian Mbappe will never match Messi. Messi's football career has such achievements. If any other player wants to achieve that, he has to become an incomparable player. And Kylian Mbappe plays well but I don't like his personal behavior at all, he is a selfish footballer.

There is no doubt that Mbappe is a great player. But Mbappe can't be compared with Messi yet. Mappe played very well, and was able to score a lot of goals. He won a World Cup at just 23 years old and was runner-up once. But Messi probably won 4 Ballon d'Or at the age of 23. But Mbappe is yet to win the Ballon d'Or. So I would say Mbappe needs more time to match Messi.
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December 25, 2022, 10:46:12 AM

I think PSG is more likely to win the game against Bayern Munich. Bayern Munich is no doubt a strong team that has great capable players capable of scoring goals.
But we should take a look at the form which PSG currently is on at the moment. They’ve got bright players who has probably gotten more experienced with the just concluded World Cup. PSG has a lot of stars on its squad. Stars that also has years of experience on their belt.

This will be a great game because Bayern has always been a great team even if lately it is not at the top while PSG is undoubtedly the strongest team at least looking at the team but has not yet won the champions, so I expect that after this world championship its players will come back loaded and with a desire to win, so we will witness a good game.
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December 25, 2022, 10:38:21 AM
Mbappe's dream to play in the same team as Ronaldo is almost impossible at this time of his career because Mbappe is currently a PSG player and the probability of Ronaldo playing for PSG or Real Madrid before he retires is very low. I doubt it will even happen at this point. If Ronaldo completes a move to the Arab league it might be his last club to play for until he retires so I doubt it is going to happen. The era of Messi and Ronaldo is close to the end and the beginning of a new era for Haaland and Mbappe.

This era has already arrived. If Mbappe had been promoted as it was at the beginning of Messi's career, then he would already have a 3-4 balloon D'Ors.
As for the results, they are also eloquent: in 2022, Mbappe scored 55 goals in 55 games, and Haaland 43 goals in 41 games. With Mbappe's phenomenal World Cup performance and Haaland's excellent goalscoring schedule for City, it's clear who will compete for the top 1 in the coming years.
I think Kylian Mbappe will never match Messi. Messi's football career has such achievements. If any other player wants to achieve that, he has to become an incomparable player. And Kylian Mbappe plays well but I don't like his behavior at all, he is a selfish footballer.
One thing is having the talent, another thing is modeling the talent. When one can model his or her talent, he or she becomes a successful example to be copied, with or without modification; that's the true nature of Lionel Messi, and this is the reason Mbappe will never match him. Messi has a total assist of 349 which is more than half of the goals he scores, showing that while he scores, he is happy to see others do the same, same applies to Christiano Ronaldo, but it's a different case for mbappe. Take for instance this season, Messi has provided 5 assists to Mbappé and 3 assists to Neymar, Neymar has provided 3 assists to Mbappé and 2 assists to Messi, but Mbappé has provided 0 assists to Neymar and 0 assists to Messi, telling you that he competes with this guys🤣 lol. Mbappe is a great talent, he only needs to model it.
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December 25, 2022, 09:56:06 AM
I think Kylian Mbappe will never match Messi. Messi's football career has such achievements. If any other player wants to achieve that, he has to become an incomparable player. And Kylian Mbappe plays well but I don't like his personal behavior at all, he is a selfish footballer.
I think that any player has their own achievements and you can't compare whether a was better than b caused by they have different story in the football. The only worthy competitor for mess was ronaldo but both were having their own way but the only problem is their fans were always battling between one to the each other to declare if their favourite player was better than other. You call him as a selfish football but others may have different perspective about him.
So, you were comparing him with your favourite player caused by you hate him?lol
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December 25, 2022, 09:54:04 AM
Yes, many times Real Madrid is not really the favorite in this competition. in fact, last season it was the same. however, they were able to overcome pessimism even though we can say that Real Madrid was very lucky in the last season. in fact, Don Carlo was able to bring his troops to win this competition trophy. and at this time, Madrid again not favored. especially since many of us doubted Benzema's existence because he was prone to injury. however, they remain one of the strong challengers in winning the Champions League trophy this season. maybe, Don Carlo will recruit several players in January to strengthen and sharpen his squad.
I still remember with Real Madrid journey last season from 16 round until final stage never have favored to be the winner, from against with PSG, Chelsea, Manchester City until Liverpool at final stage never have sportsbook favored for Madrid become the winner. Exactly there are all predicting was wrong and Real Madrid success become the Champion League winner after having mentality winning.

Not any changed with Real Madrid squad in this season except losing Casemiro moved to Manchester United, I think Real Madrid still make us surprised although not favorite team become the winner always have potential lead until final stage and make several come back on second leg match. Left one month later with 16 round begin and Real Madrid vs Liverpool become excited match for watching, could be revans for Liverpool after beating in last final match.
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December 25, 2022, 09:45:09 AM
Mbappe's dream to play in same team with Ronaldo is almost impossible at this time of his career because Mbappe is currently a PSG player and the probability of Ronaldo playing for PSG or Real Madrid before he retires is very low. I doubt it will even happen at this point. If Ronaldo completes a move to the Arab league it might be his last club to play for until he retires so I doubt it is going to happen. The era of Messi and Ronaldo is close to the end and the beginning of a new era for Haaland and Mbappe.

This era has already arrived. If Mbappe had been promoted as it was with the beginning of Messi's career, then he would already have a 3-4 balloon D'Ors.
As for the results, they are also eloquent: in 2022, Mbappe scored 55 goals in 55 games, and Haaland 43 goals in 41 games. With Mbappe's phenomenal World Cup performance and Haaland's excellent goalscoring schedule for City, it's clear who will compete for the top 1 in the coming years.
I think Kylian Mbappe will never match Messi. Messi's football career has such achievements. If any other player wants to achieve that, he has to become an incomparable player. And Kylian Mbappe plays well but I don't like his personal behavior at all, he is a selfish footballer.
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December 25, 2022, 09:35:12 AM

I cannot agree with you. Real Madrid were very lucky to win the title last season. At the same time, Benzema's consistently good performances helped Madrid win the Champions League title. But this season Benzema's fitness is not good. He is unable to stay with the squad due to injury. I think Real Madrid will be eliminated in the semi-finals.

Luck can't make them sequentially beat PSG, Chelsea, and Manchester City who were the most nominated teams to win that title, what helped them is the winning mentality they showed. This season, I think Real Madrid is far from the competition, Manchester City with Halland and PSG with all their stars seem to be the strongest and most passionate teams. However, we should look at the winter transfer market before making a prediction, with the World Cup ended recently, the market this year should be on fire.
Manchester City and PSG are the most likely teams to win the title. Because there are great games from both the teams who are currently performing quite well. The three best attacking players in the PSG team who are currently performing the best. On the other hand, Manchester City's Halland who is scoring great goals.
I was not a football fan. But I started liking football after watching FIFA world cup.
Now I am just learning what is this champions league - I have not watched club football before. But it seems interesting.
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December 25, 2022, 09:34:34 AM
It isn't always about having a strong squad as that without experience is nothing. This isn't the first time Manchester city are having a strong squad, since the takeover by the City Football Group Limited and Pep Guardiola, have always had a strong squad but have failed to win the tournament. Also Real Madrid didn't need a strong squad last season to win the tournament instead they had experience both on and off the field. Mbappe going to real Madrid doesn't guarantee them winning the tournament although it will strengthen their campaign because they now have more speed in the team which they can use against their opponent.
Competition in the Champions League is so tight, the composition of the players owned by many clubs does not guarantee they can win the Champions League, Bayern Munich, PSG and Manchester City had the perfect squad last season. But in fact it was Real Madrid who managed to come out as champions. That is, the strength of the players owned by any club cannot fully guarantee becoming a champion.

Real Madrid is superior in terms of experience and the winning mentality they have is difficult to beat, especially if they have reached the semi-finals and finals.

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Also don't underestimate Bayern Munich, although they haven't won the title as much as Real Madrid still they're a force in the tournament and always one of the favorites. Even with losing Luwadusaksi to Barcelona, they're still one of the top scorers of the tournament meaning they don't need Luwadusaksi to win the tournament as much as people are thinking. They now have Mane which contribute alot to any team that he's playing in both off and on the ball.
Bayern Munich has always been a strong challenger in the Champions League, they always appear consistently even though in the last few seasons it has been difficult to come out as champions. Mane is Bayern Munich's strength in the attacking position, he is more productive than when he played at Liverpool, even without Robert Lewandowski who was sold to Barcelona, Bayern Munich is increasingly consistent and appears quite strong.

It's a big mistake when people underestimate the strength that Bayern Munich has this season, because the competition will only give birth to one champion but that doesn't mean that other clubs are weak and aren't strong challengers.
Bayern Munich is a team that is a great opponent against any big team. All the players in the team play a very responsible game and have a great understanding among all. Currently, one of the best players in the team has joined Sadio Mane who will be able to perform well if he adapts to the players in the team.
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December 25, 2022, 09:33:39 AM
Mbappe's dream to play in same team with Ronaldo is almost impossible at this time of his career because Mbappe is currently a PSG player and the probability of Ronaldo playing for PSG or Real Madrid before he retires is very low. I doubt it will even happen at this point. If Ronaldo completes a move to the Arab league it might be his last club to play for until he retires so I doubt it is going to happen. The era of Messi and Ronaldo is close to the end and the beginning of a new era for Haaland and Mbappe.

This era has already arrived. If Mbappe had been promoted as it was with the beginning of Messi's career, then he would already have a 3-4 balloon D'Ors.
As for the results, they are also eloquent: in 2022, Mbappe scored 55 goals in 55 games, and Haaland 43 goals in 41 games. With Mbappe's phenomenal World Cup performance and Haaland's excellent goalscoring schedule for City, it's clear who will compete for the top 1 in the coming years.
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December 25, 2022, 09:29:16 AM

I cannot agree with you. Real Madrid were very lucky to win the title last season. At the same time, Benzema's consistently good performances helped Madrid win the Champions League title. But this season Benzema's fitness is not good. He is unable to stay with the squad due to injury. I think Real Madrid will be eliminated in the semi-finals.

Luck can't make them sequentially beat PSG, Chelsea, and Manchester City who were the most nominated teams to win that title, what helped them is the winning mentality they showed. This season, I think Real Madrid is far from the competition, Manchester City with Halland and PSG with all their stars seem to be the strongest and most passionate teams. However, we should look at the winter transfer market before making a prediction, with the World Cup ended recently, the market this year should be on fire.
Manchester City and PSG are the most likely teams to win the title. Because there are great games from both the teams who are currently performing quite well. The three best attacking players in the PSG team who are currently performing the best. On the other hand, Manchester City's Halland who is scoring great goals.
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December 25, 2022, 09:27:57 AM
Since the round of 16 will take place over two leg, it is difficult to guess which team between them will qualify for the next round considering PSG and Bayern Munich are teams that have equally good strengths. In terms of chances, I have the same view as you that Paris Saint Germain has a greater chance of going to the next round than Bayern Munich.
Of course what I say is not a reference because anything can happen when the match is played for both leg.
Bayern Munich goalkeeper Manuel Neuer is injured which is a major drawback for the team. PSG is seeing its players like Messi and Mbappe in their best performance this season which should push the chances of PSG a lot. It is quite difficult to guess the winner since Bayern could trash their opponents quite easily whenever they are playing good but I guess PSG will not let them do that the Barca way Roll Eyes
Although it is not certain whether he will be able to appear or not on 15 February 2023, apart from Manuel Neuer there are several Bayern Munich players who are injured including Sadio Mane, Lucas Hernandez and Goretzka. This situation can certainly be an opportunity for Paris Saint Germain to reap full points at home.
In the Bayern Munich camp, especially Julian Nagelsmann, who will certainly prepare a special strategy to face PSG if before the match takes place his mainstay players cannot appear.

Head to Head PSG and Bayern Munich in this competition last season ended in a draw with a record of both winning 1 win, namely 0-1 PSG win at home to Bayern and 2-3 Bayern win at home to PSG.
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December 25, 2022, 09:12:06 AM

I cannot agree with you. Real Madrid were very lucky to win the title last season. At the same time, Benzema's consistently good performances helped Madrid win the Champions League title. But this season Benzema's fitness is not good. He is unable to stay with the squad due to injury. I think Real Madrid will be eliminated in the semi-finals.

Luck can't make them sequentially beat PSG, Chelsea, and Manchester City who were the most nominated teams to win that title, what helped them is the winning mentality they showed. This season, I think Real Madrid is far from the competition, Manchester City with Halland and PSG with all their stars seem to be the strongest and most passionate teams. However, we should look at the winter transfer market before making a prediction, with the World Cup ended recently, the market this year should be on fire.

Yes, many times Real Madrid is not really the favorite in this competition. in fact, last season it was the same. however, they were able to overcome pessimism even though we can say that Real Madrid was very lucky in the last season. in fact, Don Carlo was able to bring his troops to win this competition trophy. and at this time, Madrid again not favored. especially since many of us doubted Benzema's existence because he was prone to injury. however, they remain one of the strong challengers in winning the Champions League trophy this season. maybe, Don Carlo will recruit several players in January to strengthen and sharpen his squad.

Likewise with Manchester City, Pep Guardiola is currently trying to bring in Jude Bellingham from Dotmund. Don't miss Bayern Munich, which is always rumored with some big stars. for PSG, their squad is already very strong up front, but it is possible that Galtier will bring in some attacking midfielders to sharpen their strength. yes, we'll see after this winter transfer window has opened. all the teams that we mention here, have the potential to win the trophy in this competition.
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December 25, 2022, 09:10:42 AM
In my opinion, Real Madrid won't give up to try signing Mbappe. He is the most potential striker, especially after Mbappe performed brilliantly in the world cup tournament. Sure, PSG won't let Mbappe to leave before the season ends. Real Madrid only has a chance to make an offer after Mbappe finishes this season with PSG. As far as I know, Mbappe still has a dream to be a part of Real Madrid squad. It is his dream since he was a kid, he won't forget about it.

His dream was to play with Ronaldo and not just to play for Real Madrid, if Madrid really needs Mbappe service then they should give Ronaldo another chance to play for the club even though it's just for 1/2 years and use that time to draw Mbappe to the club. Mbappe lost interest in Real Madrid because his idol isn't playing for the club anymore and the disrespect the club showed to Ronaldo. Now Mbappe is losing interest in PSG as well because they didn't give him what they promised and the club is putting the whole attention on Messi.

Haaland and Mbappe will dominate the space for the next 10/15 years just as Ronaldo and Messi did. Real Madrid needs to get Mbappe before another club does (most especially the premier league clubs) because if we're to get both stars at the league then all focused will shift over there. Remember same thing happened when Ronaldo signed for Real Madrid. The English premier league are becoming dominate now and soon all attention will be shifted to that side.
Mbappe's dream to play in same team with Ronaldo is almost impossible at this time of his career because Mbappe is currently a PSG player and the probability of Ronaldo playing for PSG or Real Madrid before he retires is very low. I doubt it will even happen at this point. If Ronaldo completes a move to the Arab league it might be his last club to play for until he retires so I doubt it is going to happen. The era of Messi and Ronaldo is close to the end and the beginning of a new era for Haaland and Mbappe.
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December 25, 2022, 09:01:33 AM
It's difficult for Leipzig now especially now that their striker Nkunku is definitely going to Chelsea with his new deal and of course this leaves quite an obvious hole in attack and it will be difficult if they don't look for a replacement now.
On the other hand I don't even have the slightest doubt against Manchester City at this stage because their probabilities are strong so I think this will be a real win even though I agree don't underestimate Leipzig.
January transfer window is surely going to have big impact on many teams with the transfer of Nkunku is surely big setback for the Leipzig which were doing amazing stuff and having good chance for the next season will be also in Champions League but now surely things could be different specially as now they are also going to face Manchester City which is currently one of the best club in the world and having one of the best attack in UEFA as well.

Now most chances Manchester City is clearly having chance for the qualifying into next round because Nkunku was the best player in this side, and they already play good against Real Madrid but with this change performance level could be different, and we have to wait for their next movement.
Actually, when I saw Madrid's performance against Leipzig and they won, I didn't expect anything because when I saw Madrid lose, it wasn't too much of a problem for them, but I quite agree if I say losing Nkunku is a setback for Leipzig, especially since they actually still need this player but they just let it go.

Now Manchester City's condition is very strong and for Leipzig they must find a new striker who is worthy enough to fill the void and must strengthen the defense too of course because indeed they will definitely be pressed hard if it is not like that.
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December 25, 2022, 09:00:57 AM
The reason that PSG is not the favorite for the title now has everything to do with the draw in which they play against Bayern Munich. Manchester City plays against RB Leipzig, which explains the divergent odds. If PSG manage to get through this round unscathed, then both teams will be back on the same odds. I always like to see outsiders at a tournament, maybe we should count Napoli among the outsiders. Apart from them and the favourites, I don't see any surprises happening in this season of the CL. But we will know more in February.
It is easier for Manchester City to meet against RB Leipzig than other great teams that have met each other and of course a difficult match for other teams including PSG, Manchester city is easier to face RB and will qualify for the next round  Wink

Leipzig are not a tough opponent for Manchester City. A relatively weak team is Leipzig. But there is no way to ignore this team. Smaller teams often win against bigger teams in the Champions League. Last season we saw Villarreal's great performances. And so if Manchester City want to qualify for the next round then they must play well. If they don't play well or make any tactical mistakes, they won't be able to win against Leipzig.
yes, that's the chance for the Manchester City club to qualify for the next round if they beat Leipzig, in contrast to other teams that face great teams and of course it takes more energy to come out victorious, for example PSG vs Bayern Munich and Real Madrid vs Liverpool are also very difficult matches and it's also worth watching, I'm sure Manchester City will play well against Leipzig later and qualify for the next round  Wink
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December 25, 2022, 08:32:56 AM
Since the round of 16 will take place over two leg, it is difficult to guess which team between them will qualify for the next round considering PSG and Bayern Munich are teams that have equally good strengths. In terms of chances, I have the same view as you that Paris Saint Germain has a greater chance of going to the next round than Bayern Munich.
Of course what I say is not a reference because anything can happen when the match is played for both leg.
Bayern Munich goalkeeper Manuel Neuer is injured which is a major drawback for the team. PSG is seeing its players like Messi and Mbappe in their best performance this season which should push the chances of PSG a lot. It is quite difficult to guess the winner since Bayern could trash their opponents quite easily whenever they are playing good but I guess PSG will not let them do that the Barca way Roll Eyes
I personally doubt when PSG will be against bayern. Based from head to heat between PSG and Bayern seem like both were equal. Bayern have to protect messi and mbappe as the main player who will be a treat for bayern's goal keeper. We saw how good the performance from messi and mbappe during the world cup. I have expected the same thing to happen when PSG will be against bayern next year but i think that mbappe may possibly move to the another club before the derby between PSG against bayern.
Bayern has a very good strategy to protect messi. I hope bayern will win from this derby https://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/history/h2h/50037/52747/
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