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Quote from: Pulsar77 on December 08, 2022, 01:36:23 PM

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I don't agree with you, Aubameyang is young and he adapts very well to the new team, he already proved it in Barcelona and also when he came to Chelsea. And Ronaldo is pursued by failure, it seemed that he would be able to show his best side in the Portuguese team, but something incomprehensible happened, because he spent almost the entire match with Switzerland on the bench. Perhaps the reason was that he was unhappy that he was replaced in the match with Korea, but I did not understand his dissatisfaction, because this match did not decide anything for Portugal. I think that Ronaldo looks like a problem player now, not many will want to buy him.

How come Aubameyang is young now?

He is 33 years old now. This is quite an old age for a centre-forward truthfully. I know that there are some examples like Benzema who is still showing very impressive performances. But these examples are limited at the same time. I don't see Aubameyang as one of those players now. He was actually like that while he was playing for Barcelona. He started to bring back his old days by scoring many goals. But after joining Chelsea it looks like he is back to where he was at Arsenal. He still has many more matches to play of course so I hope he improves his game.

Besides Chelsea wouldn't have spent a lot of money for Nkunku if they were happy with Aubameyang's performance. The Nkunku deal should be completed soon.

It is doubtful whether Chelsea will get anything better if they add Ronaldo to the team. Because Ronaldo does not have a place in the starting eleven in the national team, due to his poor form. In fact, giving a name can never survive. So the money that Chelsea will buy Ronaldo with, will benefit if they buy two or three other players.

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Quote from: Zanab247 on December 08, 2022, 01:30:48 PM

Benzema still have the strength to perform better than the beginning of this tournament, despite the injury he went for which he is finally well to join their players after the holiday, so that people will stop panicking that he cannot perform well again. I guess, Real Madrid will win this trophy again in this season if they will not make mistakes to release Benzema to other teams by January, because he has a lot of things to help the team to achieve before he leave the team so that his name will be written in golden pen.

This season UEFA's champion leauge will be tough for Real Madrid because a lot of teams are well prepared to fight Real Madrid for the title this season. Teams like PSG, Napoli, Bayern Munich, and Manchester City have the qualities to compete and even beat Real Madrid for the title this season. My opinion is that I am tipping PSG for the tittle.

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Quote from: Altryist on December 08, 2022, 01:13:06 PM

I don't agree with you, Aubameyang is young and he adapts very well to the new team, he already proved it in Barcelona and also when he came to Chelsea. And Ronaldo is pursued by failure, it seemed that he would be able to show his best side in the Portuguese team, but something incomprehensible happened, because he spent almost the entire match with Switzerland on the bench. Perhaps the reason was that he was unhappy that he was replaced in the match with Korea, but I did not understand his dissatisfaction, because this match did not decide anything for Portugal. I think that Ronaldo looks like a problem player now, not many will want to buy him.

How come Aubameyang is young now?

He is 33 years old now. This is quite an old age for a centre-forward truthfully. I know that there are some examples like Benzema who is still showing very impressive performances. But these examples are limited at the same time. I don't see Aubameyang as one of those players now. He was actually like that while he was playing for Barcelona. He started to bring back his old days by scoring many goals. But after joining Chelsea it looks like he is back to where he was at Arsenal. He still has many more matches to play of course so I hope he improves his game.

Besides Chelsea wouldn't have spent a lot of money for Nkunku if they were happy with Aubameyang's performance. The Nkunku deal should be completed soon.

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Real Madrid's victory went as predicted. They can easily finish the resistance given by Frankfurt. Alaba and Benzema were the goalscorers in this win. And once again Benzema can play well, he showed that he still deserves to occupy the position of Real Madrid front line. This is a signal, that Benzema will return to being a frightening figure up front.

Benzema still have the strength to perform better than the beginning of this tournament, despite the injury he went for which he is finally well to join their players after the holiday, so that people will stop panicking that he cannot perform well again. I guess, Real Madrid will win this trophy again in this season if they will not make mistakes to release Benzema to other teams by January, because he has a lot of things to help the team to achieve before he leave the team so that his name will be written in golden pen.

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Quote from: Falconer on December 08, 2022, 10:43:36 AM

If previously Chelsea could consider Aubameyang whose quality is not comparable to Ronaldo's, then I think Chelsea can also consider Ronaldo for at least 2 seasons. Short-term contract shouldn't be much of a problem for Chelsea and Ronaldo so I think he's still good for the Premier League especially for teams that need a striker.

But I don't know if Chelsea are interested in signing Ronaldo or not, but his attitude with Manchester United at the end of his contract seems to have been Chelsea's consideration before offering him a contract. So Ronaldo's current situation is really difficult, but he's still a striker worth relying on.

I don't agree with you, Aubameyang is young and he adapts very well to the new team, he already proved it in Barcelona and also when he came to Chelsea. And Ronaldo is pursued by failure, it seemed that he would be able to show his best side in the Portuguese team, but something incomprehensible happened, because he spent almost the entire match with Switzerland on the bench. Perhaps the reason was that he was unhappy that he was replaced in the match with Korea, but I did not understand his dissatisfaction, because this match did not decide anything for Portugal. I think that Ronaldo looks like a problem player now, not many will want to buy him.

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When it comes to age, you can't do anything when age is no longer by your side, particularly in football game which involves strength, agility, Mental energy, and lot more to play. Looking at his performance in this world, it's clearly seen that he has nothing much to offer in the field Play, and I don't really think that he suits the kind of striker that Chelsea needs right now.

However, buying him is still not that bad since he's on free transfer and there are other strikers already in Chelsea.

On second thought, I think we should consider poor form of Ronaldo as a lack of cooperation with his teammates, not just his age because, in my opinion, Ronaldo's age didn't affect his ability to score goals neither did his age affect his strength and pace on the pitch but I think he's been through a lot lately being a human that has affected his ability to do things they way he ought to do when on the field of play.

Can Ronaldo do well as a Chelsea striker? Yes, he can because he will be welcomed by the fans and the management and the players of Chelsea will love to work with him because just like Manchester City players who will rather not score goals to ensure that Haaland scores a goal in every match Ronaldo will not be under much pressure to get the ball always before he can score goals because his teammates at Chelsea will be doing much of assistance for him to easily score goals.

I speculate on your point above Ronaldo is a little selfish, he is more concerned with individual titles than team achievements. Of course he did, Ronaldo is a player with big ambitions, he always wants to be the best. As long as Messi is still actively playing, Ronaldo will always try to be superior to Messi, even though in reality he cannot surpass some of what Messi has achieved, he will always try to be better than his competitors.

The reason he wants to continue playing in the Champions League is because Messi is there, but if Ronaldo wants to add to his collection of Champions League titles at his current age, Bayern Munich is the right place for him.

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If we take only marketing goals, then it does not matter how Ronaldo plays. He remains one of the most popular athletes worldwide. Chelsea will buy him for free, which may not be such a stupid decision even if Ronaldo keeps his huge salary. And I don't think that Ronaldo is already that bad (more precisely, he became bad in just a year) - last year he was the top 3 scorer in the Premier League and this year he is retired? Hard to believe.

When it comes to age, you can't do anything when age is no longer by your side, particularly in football game which involves strength, agility, Mental energy, and lot more to play. Looking at his performance in this world, it's clearly seen that he has nothing much to offer in the field Play, and I don't really think that he suits the kind of striker that Chelsea needs right now.

However, buying him is still not that bad since he's on free transfer and there are other strikers already in Chelsea.

On second thought, I think we should consider poor form of Ronaldo as a lack of cooperation with his teammates, not just his age because, in my opinion, Ronaldo's age didn't affect his ability to score goals neither did his age affect his strength and pace on the pitch but I think he's been through a lot lately being a human that has affected his ability to do things they way he ought to do when on the field of play.

Can Ronaldo do well as a Chelsea striker? Yes, he can because he will be welcomed by the fans and the management and the players of Chelsea will love to work with him because just like Manchester City players who will rather not score goals to ensure that Haaland scores a goal in every match Ronaldo will not be under much pressure to get the ball always before he can score goals because his teammates at Chelsea will be doing much of assistance for him to easily score goals.

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Quote from: Falconer on December 08, 2022, 10:43:36 AM

Quote from: Franctoshi on December 08, 2022, 09:23:01 AM

When it comes to age, you can't do anything when age is no longer by your side, particularly in football game which involves strength, agility, Mental energy, and lot more to play. Looking at his performance in this world, it's clearly seen that he has nothing much to offer in the field Play, and I don't really think that he suits the kind of striker that Chelsea needs right now.

However, buying him is still not that bad since he's on free transfer and there are other striker already in Chelsea.

If previously Chelsea could consider Aubameyang whose quality is not comparable to Ronaldo's, then I think Chelsea can also consider Ronaldo for at least 2 seasons. Short-term contract shouldn't be much of a problem for Chelsea and Ronaldo so I think he's still good for the Premier League especially for teams that need a striker.

But I don't know if Chelsea are interested in signing Ronaldo or not, but his attitude with Manchester United at the end of his contract seems to have been Chelsea's consideration before offering him a contract. So Ronaldo's current situation is really difficult, but he's still a striker worth relying on.

Aubameyang signing was pure tuchel interference in the previous transfers window as tuchel and aubameyang are known have a pretty good relationship between the two. Apart from that, we can see Ronaldo, who has a different quality than Aubameyang, will be Chelsea's target in this transfer season window.

even Aubameyang has not been able to make a good contribution on the Chelsea front line this season so if Chelsea officially gets Ronaldo I think Aubameyang will be Graham second choice in the second half of this season.

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Quote from: Franctoshi on December 08, 2022, 09:23:01 AM

When it comes to age, you can't do anything when age is no longer by your side, particularly in football game which involves strength, agility, Mental energy, and lot more to play. Looking at his performance in this world, it's clearly seen that he has nothing much to offer in the field Play, and I don't really think that he suits the kind of striker that Chelsea needs right now.

However, buying him is still not that bad since he's on free transfer and there are other striker already in Chelsea.

If previously Chelsea could consider Aubameyang whose quality is not comparable to Ronaldo's, then I think Chelsea can also consider Ronaldo for at least 2 seasons. Short-term contract shouldn't be much of a problem for Chelsea and Ronaldo so I think he's still good for the Premier League especially for teams that need a striker.

But I don't know if Chelsea are interested in signing Ronaldo or not, but his attitude with Manchester United at the end of his contract seems to have been Chelsea's consideration before offering him a contract. So Ronaldo's current situation is really difficult, but he's still a striker worth relying on.

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Quote from: fachant on December 08, 2022, 10:25:52 AM

Hope to enjoy a great match between PSG and Bayern Munich after the World Cup.

It is going to be a great match of course, but with quite a lot of pressure, especially for PSG who can't afford to be eliminated in the RO16 for the second season running, they will also have it at the back of their minds that after last season's elimination, their fans really had a go at them, and some players were booed even in their own stadium, the dissatisfaction from the fans was so evident that it threatened to break up the team, with some players looking to leave, but good thing they stuck together and are now a much stronger team than they were last season. Having said that, it is one of those games that is unpredictable, but if i am to just randomly pick a winner, then i'd say PSG would go through, they look to me like a much stronger force than Bayern Munich this season, and the front three of Messi, Neymar and Mbappe might prove too strong for Bayern Munich.

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Quote from: Slow death on December 08, 2022, 09:44:17 AM

ronaldo's situation is not good, he is not even being featured in this world cup in the portuguese team, he is not managing to score many goals and for a striker that is simply something very bad, looking at him on the field sometimes it looks like he's not a striker, and I'm not exaggerating, I'm serious, that with the poor performance he's having in this world cup, there's no doubt that if there were any European teams interested in him then at this time they must be losing interest because he's not he is managing to score a lot of goals,

Cristiano Ronaldo hasn't better performance in World Cup with 1 goal scored trough penalty kick from 4 matches with Portugal at World Cup 2022 I don't think any Champion League team participants want to signing him, although have been free agent I don't think easy for Cristiano Ronaldo get contract with team still in 16 round of Champion League. He has underperformance at World Cup and difficult give more contribution for his national team not only less scoring goals but also he has bad statistic with Portugal without any assists created.

Still possibility and easy for Cristiano Ronaldo reach contract with team participant in Europe League but he needs cut off salary more than 30% until 50%, difficult for any team want to pay him based on salary received with Manchester United except he has join with Saudi Arabia team.

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Quote from: safari88 on December 07, 2022, 04:37:53 PM

It is of course true that Bayern Munich and PSG have little competition in the relevant competitions. But I don't think that opposition will affect their level in the CL. PSG has had some bad luck that they finished 2nd in the group, although they failed to beat benfica twice. PSG also did well in the group stage of the CL and Bayern also had no problems. Such teams are very experienced, they don't need motivation to recharge themselves for the upcoming matches. I think City will easily go through against RB Leipzig. Bayern-PSG? Yes, that can go both ways. It's a pity that 1 of those 2 teams is already leaving the tournament.

When PSG and Bayern Munich meet, their match will be really competitive. Bayern Munich is performing well, but one of their team players, Sadio Mane, is injured, which will have some impact on the team in that match. On the other hand, PSG's three attacking players are in good form with their national team. Hope to enjoy a great match between PSG and Bayern Munich after the World Cup.

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Quote from: Franctoshi on December 08, 2022, 09:23:01 AM

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If we take only marketing goals, then it does not matter how Ronaldo plays. He remains one of the most popular athletes worldwide. Chelsea will buy him for free, which may not be such a stupid decision even if Ronaldo keeps his huge salary. And I don't think that Ronaldo is already that bad (more precisely, he became bad in just a year) - last year he was the top 3 scorer in the Premier League and this year he is retired? Hard to believe.

When it comes to age, you can't do anything when age is no longer by your side, particularly in football game which involves strength, agility, Mental energy, and lot more to play. Looking at his performance in this world, it's clearly seen that he has nothing much to offer in the field Play, and I don't really think that he suits the kind of striker that Chelsea needs right now.

However, buying him is still not that bad since he's on free transfer and there are other striker already in Chelsea.

However, the main problem for Ronaldo is that he is too ambitious to achieve the highest achievement and with such great ambition, Ronaldo will never be able to accept if he is too often on the bench. Even though each coach also has his own strategy which of course will make some players unable to play in all the matches, when they don't match the strategy used at that time.
Also, if Ronaldo still really has good gameplay then of course Ronaldo will continue to be played as a starter, no matter how old he is because if Ronaldo fits the strategy implemented then of course the coach will also continue to play him.

But what has happened lately, even Ronaldo does not always play the full 90 minutes or play from the bench, when compared to Messi the situation is very different because Messi can still be relied on by the team in every match.
Therefore, if there are no more big teams who are going to sign Ronaldo, then it would be better for Ronaldo to retire, because it will only be useless if Ronaldo continues to force it but in the end Ronaldo will only be on the bench more often.

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Quote from: KTChampions on December 08, 2022, 09:07:30 AM

If we take only marketing goals, then it does not matter how Ronaldo plays. He remains one of the most popular athletes worldwide. Chelsea will buy him for free, which may not be such a stupid decision even if Ronaldo keeps his huge salary. And I don't think that Ronaldo is already that bad (more precisely, he became bad in just a year) - last year he was the top 3 scorer in the Premier League and this year he is retired? Hard to believe.

ronaldo's situation is not good, he is not even being featured in this world cup in the portuguese team, he is not managing to score many goals and for a striker that is simply something very bad, looking at him on the field sometimes it looks like he's not a striker, and I'm not exaggerating, I'm serious, that with the poor performance he's having in this world cup, there's no doubt that if there were any European teams interested in him then at this time they must be losing interest because he's not he is managing to score a lot of goals, and it makes no sense to take a striker who does not score many goals, ronalo is in a position where he can only go to arabia or retire because I very much doubt he will be able to play in europe in some great team, I don't know what happened to him, since this new coach appeared Ronaldo has not been the same as in the past, what happened to him?

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bayern munich is stronger in the champions league this season, when bayern munich faces psg in the round of 16 for sure these two teams will have the same quality ratio of players in both teams. lionel messi, neymar and mbappe became the spearhead of psg this season and even the psg trio became the most feared trio this season.

I'm still a little doubtful for the Bayern Munich team in the Champions League this season, especially since Bayern Munich has to face PSG, who are clearly still very strong this season. Even though the match can be very exciting and fierce, I doubt Bayern Munich can win the match even though the quality of the players is not that much different from PSG.

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Manchester city will get an easy opponent in the round of 16, of course it is believed that Pep Guardiola will easily win that match because Haaland presence this season has turned Manchester City into a very strong club when Haaland is in action on the front lines. don't forget to see napoli they are a dark horse team who is a serious challenger for big team team.

Manchester City's opponent in the last 16 of the Champions League is RB Leipzig and yes the team is not that strong this season, although sometimes Leipzig can also provide unexpected surprises this season so Manchester City must also be more vigilant about their opponents in the last 16 of the Champions League season. Napoli will face Frankfurt in the last 16 of the Champions League and I'm sure the Napoli team will definitely be able to win the game even if not in such an easy way.

Napoli have performed well ahead of the World Cup. As some of Napoli's players have played in the World Cup, their performance may change. But I am also sure with you that Napoli will win the next match in a big way. And their good performance will continue.

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Quote from: SatoPrincess on December 07, 2022, 04:40:16 PM

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I don't think Mane's absence will affect Bayern Munich's performance as a whole, because players who can score goals at Bayern Munich are not only Mane. In fact, other players have more and better goals than Mane, so I personally don't think Bayern Munich will be weak just because Mane is injured.
Also, whether or not Mane will be present in the match against PSG, basically it will be a difficult match for both teams because whatever the result can be.

But indeed, at least if Mane can be played in that match then of course it will be better for Bayern Munich than without Mane. But besides that, there will be a transfer window that will open before the start of the Champions League, and with the transfer market before the Champions League starts again, of course Bayern Munich must move quickly to get new players, especially pure strikers.
That way, there is still plenty of time for all teams to improve and strengthen their squad in the transfer window, as they still have time to be able to improve their team's performance after the World Cup.

Sadio Mane’s absence will be felt in the squad, if not for anything his presence alone presents the coach with more options in their attack so his absence will surely be felt but there are still other players that will fill in, in his absence and can still put up good performances for the team but in terms of weakness and strength I don't think the team will be weak without Sadio Mane, they can still play and win games comfortably without him. Sadly, I can’t say the same for his former club, Liverpool.

Sadio Mane an incredibly good experienced footballer. He spent most of his football career at Liverpool. Now he has joined Bayern Munich and has shown good performances ahead of the World Cup. Perhaps Sadio Mane is currently injured which will affect the Bayern Munich club.

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Quote from: KTChampions on December 08, 2022, 09:07:30 AM

If we take only marketing goals, then it does not matter how Ronaldo plays. He remains one of the most popular athletes worldwide. Chelsea will buy him for free, which may not be such a stupid decision even if Ronaldo keeps his huge salary. And I don't think that Ronaldo is already that bad (more precisely, he became bad in just a year) - last year he was the top 3 scorer in the Premier League and this year he is retired? Hard to believe.

When it comes to age, you can't do anything when age is no longer by your side, particularly in football game which involves strength, agility, Mental energy, and lot more to play. Looking at his performance in this world, it's clearly seen that he has nothing much to offer in the field Play, and I don't really think that he suits the kind of striker that Chelsea needs right now.

However, buying him is still not that bad since he's on free transfer and there are other striker already in Chelsea.

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I think that is a pinpointed difference about both managers, Tuchel believes and trusts in his top players and disregarding the youth talents in the team while potter embraces them and is willing to give everyone a chance because who knows how instrumental they could be in the team, I guess that should be the real reason Tuchel was sacked in the first place because I have heard different sides to the story and most people are saying the same thing about Tuchel's poor communication skills and poor tactics.

It's a tricky question because Tuchel became a sophisticated manager and maybe he really paid attention to the top players, even though he used to start out as a Potter and trust young players who were full of desire. It's a question of opportunity, Tuchel has become a top coach and his opportunities have changed, in such conditions the mindset also changes.

All coaches must have criteria for the players they choose, that also happened to Thomas Tuchel and Graham Potter. What's different is that maybe they're out of luck when they get bad results from players they trust. This is something that is normal in the world of football, even a top coach will definitely experience ups and downs during his coaching period as well as for an player.

Lately, Chelsea has received a lot of scrutiny from several parties, whether it's because of team management problems which are considered unable to fully restore Chelsea's identityor even team performance that doesn't meet expectations. But what is clear is that Chelsea managed to finish as winners of Group E in the Champions League competition, even though with a record of four wins from a total of six matches, that was a good start.

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If Potter doesn't change the trajectory Chelsea took under Tuchel, he won't have another season. These are the modern realities - you do not have time to "prepare", you must immediately show at least some result, and if it is good, you have a chance to work further to show an even better result.

Signing Ronaldo will most likely be a marketing ploy, but with all his age he has not lost his sense of goal and he still has a shot, so in some games even without playing all 90 minutes he can be useful.

I think Chelsea would be foolish to sign Cristiano Ronaldo at this moment. Because Cristiano Ronaldo is not performing well at the moment, one of the examples of which is that he was not included in the starting XI of his home country Portugal's World Cup match. Because Portugal's coach knows that Cristiano Ronaldo's legendary style of play no longer exists.

If we take only marketing goals, then it does not matter how Ronaldo plays. He remains one of the most popular athletes worldwide. Chelsea will buy him for free, which may not be such a stupid decision even if Ronaldo keeps his huge salary. And I don't think that Ronaldo is already that bad (more precisely, he became bad in just a year) - last year he was the top 3 scorer in the Premier League and this year he is retired? Hard to believe.

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Quote from: Altryist on December 07, 2022, 05:04:40 PM

Quote from: Pokapoka124 on December 07, 2022, 04:20:34 PM

I think that is a pinpointed difference about both managers, Tuchel believes and trusts in his top players and disregarding the youth talents in the team while potter embraces them and is willing to give everyone a chance because who knows how instrumental they could be in the team, I guess that should be the real reason Tuchel was sacked in the first place because I have heard different sides to the story and most people are saying the same thing about Tuchel's poor communication skills and poor tactics.

It's a tricky question because Tuchel became a sophisticated manager and maybe he really paid attention to the top players, even though he used to start out as a Potter and trust young players who were full of desire. It's a question of opportunity, Tuchel has become a top coach and his opportunities have changed, in such conditions the mindset also changes.

All coaches must have criteria for the players they choose, that also happened to Thomas Tuchel and Graham Potter. What's different is that maybe they're out of luck when they get bad results from players they trust. This is something that is normal in the world of football, even a top coach will definitely experience ups and downs during his coaching period as well as for an player.

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