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Quote from: ginsan on December 07, 2022, 03:56:18 PM

bayern munich is stronger in the champions league this season, when bayern munich faces psg in the round of 16 for sure these two teams will have the same quality ratio of players in both teams. lionel messi, neymar and mbappe became the spearhead of psg this season and even the psg trio became the most feared trio this season.

I'm still a little doubtful for the Bayern Munich team in the Champions League this season, especially since Bayern Munich has to face PSG, who are clearly still very strong this season. Even though the match can be very exciting and fierce, I doubt Bayern Munich can win the match even though the quality of the players is not that much different from PSG.

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Manchester city will get an easy opponent in the round of 16, of course it is believed that Pep Guardiola will easily win that match because Haaland presence this season has turned Manchester City into a very strong club when Haaland is in action on the front lines. don't forget to see napoli they are a dark horse team who is a serious challenger for big team team.

Manchester City's opponent in the last 16 of the Champions League is RB Leipzig and yes the team is not that strong this season, although sometimes Leipzig can also provide unexpected surprises this season so Manchester City must also be more vigilant about their opponents in the last 16 of the Champions League season. Napoli will face Frankfurt in the last 16 of the Champions League and I'm sure the Napoli team will definitely be able to win the game even if not in such an easy way.

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Personally, I don't trust Graham Potter. I don't know why Chelsea management sacked an experienced coach like Thomas Tuchel. Chelsea won titles on platforms like the Champions League with a mediocre squad under Tuchel's help. I think if Tuchel was given enough time and funds he would have been able to strengthen and stabilize the Chelsea team.

No nothing would had changed as coaches like Thomas Tuchel are very one sided and refuses to adjust their formation to suit things. Thomas Tuchel couldn't change his formation even when things weren't working and kept on playing the same prayers even when they aren't giving the team results. Thomas Tuchel also downgraded all our youths talents and when his first team choices weren't performing, instead of him to acknowledge his mistakes, he kept on making them while insisting he isn't making a mistake not playing this youngsters.
Thomas Tuchel chase alway many young players that were meant to be the future of Chelsea. Graham Potter on the other hands welcomes everybody and watch out for who best suit his version for the club. Graham Potter will succeed at Chelsea, it's just a matter of time. Thomas Tuchel met an inform young blood built by Frank lampard and he just had to guide them to get success from them. Graham is trying to work with players Thomas Tuchel bought that weren't necessary.

Thomas Tuchel was monogamous, it's true. But still he was a very experienced coach. I would say Chelsea management should have given Tuchel enough time and given him a chance. But the Chelsea management has not given Tuchel enough opportunities this season. Was Chelsea's squad strong enough this season? I don't think so. The weakness in the Chelsea team is not only tactical. Their squad also lacks talented players. And because of this Graham Potter has not been able to stabilize this team yet. Graham Potter may be able to stabilize the team, but Chelsea management will definitely need to spend money and build a squad with more talented players.

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Quote from: safari88 on December 07, 2022, 03:37:53 PM

It is of course true that Bayern Munich and PSG have little competition in the relevant competitions. But I don't think that opposition will affect their level in the CL. PSG has had some bad luck that they finished 2nd in the group, although they failed to beat benfica twice. PSG also did well in the group stage of the CL and Bayern also had no problems. Such teams are very experienced, they don't need motivation to recharge themselves for the upcoming matches. I think City will easily go through against RB Leipzig. Bayern-PSG? Yes, that can go both ways. It's a pity that 1 of those 2 teams is already leaving the tournament.

From my point of view, these two teams have their strengths and weaknesses. PSG has the MNM Trio, Bayern Munich has productive players, each of whose players are capable of scoring goals. PSG sometimes let their guard down in defense, Bayern Munich is quite strong in defense. even on several occasions when the Bayern Munich coach was interviewed, Nagelsmann was a little annoyed if Bayern Munich would meet PSG in the round of 16 later. because in terms of probability, these two teams have the potential to overthrow each other. what is certain is that in the match later, this match will present a match with a hot atmosphere with high game tension. Meanwhile, when PSG were held to a draw by Bencifa. I think Bencifa's defense is quite solid and they tend to play defensively and counterattack when they have the chance.

as for City, they shouldn't have any problems against RB Leipzig. because after all, in strength and readiness City is better than Leipzig. it's just that, they shouldn't underestimate their opponent. because after all, Leipzig has one dangerous striker.

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Quote from: Pokapoka124 on December 07, 2022, 03:20:34 PM

I think that is a pinpointed difference about both managers, Tuchel believes and trusts in his top players and disregarding the youth talents in the team while potter embraces them and is willing to give everyone a chance because who knows how instrumental they could be in the team, I guess that should be the real reason Tuchel was sacked in the first place because I have heard different sides to the story and most people are saying the same thing about Tuchel's poor communication skills and poor tactics.

It's a tricky question because Tuchel became a sophisticated manager and maybe he really paid attention to the top players, even though he used to start out as a Potter and trust young players who were full of desire. It's a question of opportunity, Tuchel has become a top coach and his opportunities have changed, in such conditions the mindset also changes.

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Quote from: safari88 on December 07, 2022, 03:37:53 PM

It is of course true that Bayern Munich and PSG have little competition in the relevant competitions. But I don't think that opposition will affect their level in the CL. PSG has had some bad luck that they finished 2nd in the group, although they failed to beat benfica twice. PSG also did well in the group stage of the CL and Bayern also had no problems. Such teams are very experienced, they don't need motivation to recharge themselves for the upcoming matches. I think City will easily go through against RB Leipzig. Bayern-PSG? Yes, that can go both ways. It's a pity that 1 of those 2 teams is already leaving the tournament.

bayern munich is stronger in the champions league this season, when bayern munich faces psg in the round of 16 for sure these two teams will have the same quality ratio of players in both teams. lionel messi, neymar and mbappe became the spearhead of psg this season and even the psg trio became the most feared trio this season.

Manchester city will get an easy opponent in the round of 16, of course it is believed that Pep Guardiola will easily win that match because Haaland presence this season has turned Manchester City into a very strong club when Haaland is in action on the front lines. don't forget to see napoli they are a dark horse team who is a serious challenger for big team team.

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Quote from: hahay on December 07, 2022, 09:42:18 AM

I don't think Mane's absence will affect Bayern Munich's performance as a whole, because players who can score goals at Bayern Munich are not only Mane. In fact, other players have more and better goals than Mane, so I personally don't think Bayern Munich will be weak just because Mane is injured.
Also, whether or not Mane will be present in the match against PSG, basically it will be a difficult match for both teams because whatever the result can be.

But indeed, at least if Mane can be played in that match then of course it will be better for Bayern Munich than without Mane. But besides that, there will be a transfer window that will open before the start of the Champions League, and with the transfer market before the Champions League starts again, of course Bayern Munich must move quickly to get new players, especially pure strikers.
That way, there is still plenty of time for all teams to improve and strengthen their squad in the transfer window, as they still have time to be able to improve their team's performance after the World Cup.

Sadio Mane’s absence will be felt in the squad, if not for anything his presence alone presents the coach with more options in their attack so his absence will surely be felt but there are still other players that will fill in, in his absence and can still put up good performances for the team but in terms of weakness and strength I don't think the team will be weak without Sadio Mane, they can still play and win games comfortably without him. Sadly, I can’t say the same for his former club, Liverpool.

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It is of course true that Bayern Munich and PSG have little competition in the relevant competitions. But I don't think that opposition will affect their level in the CL. PSG has had some bad luck that they finished 2nd in the group, although they failed to beat benfica twice. PSG also did well in the group stage of the CL and Bayern also had no problems. Such teams are very experienced, they don't need motivation to recharge themselves for the upcoming matches. I think City will easily go through against RB Leipzig. Bayern-PSG? Yes, that can go both ways. It's a pity that 1 of those 2 teams is already leaving the tournament.

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Personally, I don't trust Graham Potter. I don't know why Chelsea management sacked an experienced coach like Thomas Tuchel. Chelsea won titles on platforms like the Champions League with a mediocre squad under Tuchel's help. I think if Tuchel was given enough time and funds he would have been able to strengthen and stabilize the Chelsea team.

No nothing would had changed as coaches like Thomas Tuchel are very one sided and refuses to adjust their formation to suit things. Thomas Tuchel couldn't change his formation even when things weren't working and kept on playing the same prayers even when they aren't giving the team results. Thomas Tuchel also downgraded all our youths talents and when his first team choices weren't performing, instead of him to acknowledge his mistakes, he kept on making them while insisting he isn't making a mistake not playing this youngsters.

Thomas Tuchel chase alway many young players that were meant to be the future of Chelsea. Graham Potter on the other hands welcomes everybody and watch out for who best suit his version for the club. Graham Potter will succeed at Chelsea, it's just a matter of time. Thomas Tuchel met an inform young blood built by Frank lampard and he just had to guide them to get success from them. Graham is trying to work with players Thomas Tuchel bought that weren't necessary.

I think that is a pinpointed difference about both managers, Tuchel believes and trusts in his top players and disregarding the youth talents in the team while potter embraces them and is willing to give everyone a chance because who knows how instrumental they could be in the team, I guess that should be the real reason Tuchel was sacked in the first place because I have heard different sides to the story and most people are saying the same thing about Tuchel's poor communication skills and poor tactics.

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Quote from: martyns on December 06, 2022, 10:34:05 PM

The champions league is going to begin again after the world cup,and we would see which team can come out to win it. Real Madrid did an excellent job last season winning their league and the champions league as Karim Benzema went on to be the highest goal scorer in Lalliga and also winning the Ballon d'or for the year.
It was indeed his season,but this year seems to be a different season altogether,he hasn't score enough goals as he did last season,although the season has not gotten anywhere yet,but Barcelona's Lewandowski has began to show his goal scoring abilities in the Laliga,and might move ahead of Benzema in winning the goalden boot this year.

It will start on valentines day if I am not wrong. That means it is about 2+ months away right now, the world cup will end at 18th, most nations are gone by that point, which means that many many players will relax for 2 months until UCL comes back. Of course leagues will start back but for majority of these clubs it's like taking a break and then having a training.

Bayern vs PSG for example, both Bayern and PSG are playing in a league that is far inferior compared to them, and that means we are going to end up with a few games before their game where they will just train and get into match shape, nothing more for them, not really a difficulty to beat their league opponents.

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Quote from: nara1892 on December 07, 2022, 12:15:32 PM

Firing and bringing in a new coach is a risk taken by Chelsea. Don't be surprised when the sacking doesn't produce better results than the sacked coach will become a conversation that will corner Chelsea for making a decision too quickly. Also vice versa if the dismissal produces very good results then they will be given credit for doing something very right.
This has already happened between Thomas Tuchel, Chelsea and Graham Potter. Now the best choice in my opinion is to continue to put faith in Graham Potter. And also give him the opportunity to freely get several injections of new players, even with the limitations that Chelsea are currently experiencing.

With dismissal already a decision for Chelsea's management, indeed there is always someone who is cornered because the dismissal was too short when Chelsea lost in the Champions League, but what management might be dissatisfied with Tuchel even though he is a great coach and gave several titles to Chelsea.
The hope for the future is indeed in Graham Potter, even though there are many twists and turns that Chelsea have experienced in the Premier League, but of course, it all takes a long process, it has just started for Graham Potter, at least in a few seasons he can show Chelsea about other support, indeed it will Potter needed to choose the players he would recruit.

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To restore balance in the squad and drive the team to maintaining consistency of winning games?, and Where are those facts since he was sacked ?, Whatever story that may have caused the sacking, I think that was a wrong decision by the owner and the entire Chelsea management board.

They Forgot that in live there ups and down times and same is applicable to coaching, I never sided the sack of Thomas Tuchel one day, that issues should have been resolved with the team or the management of Chelsea and with time everything would move back smoothly for the club entirely.

Of course Chelsea's new owners choose him, he will get a lot of opportunities. He will probably be given funds to shop for players later in January. I think Chelsea's development is still pretty good, sacking him will only add more problems for Chelsea. Because I actually know, there are no achievements that come instantly, everything requires a process. Chelsea are doing pretty well in the UCL so I think their chances of qualifying are the same as Dortmund.

Firing and bringing in a new coach is a risk taken by Chelsea. Don't be surprised when the sacking doesn't produce better results than the sacked coach will become a conversation that will corner Chelsea for making a decision too quickly. Also vice versa if the dismissal produces very good results then they will be given credit for doing something very right.
This has already happened between Thomas Tuchel, Chelsea and Graham Potter. Now the best choice in my opinion is to continue to put faith in Graham Potter. And also give him the opportunity to freely get several injections of new players, even with the limitations that Chelsea are currently experiencing.

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Quote from: Franctoshi on December 05, 2022, 04:36:37 PM

To restore balance in the squad and drive the team to maintaining consistency of winning games?, and Where are those facts since he was sacked ?, Whatever story that may have caused the sacking, I think that was a wrong decision by the owner and the entire Chelsea management board.

They Forgot that in live there ups and down times and same is applicable to coaching, I never sided the sack of Thomas Tuchel one day, that issues should have been resolved with the team or the management of Chelsea and with time everything would move back smoothly for the club entirely.

Of course Chelsea's new owners choose him, he will get a lot of opportunities. He will probably be given funds to shop for players later in January. I think Chelsea's development is still pretty good, sacking him will only add more problems for Chelsea. Because I actually know, there are no achievements that come instantly, everything requires a process. Chelsea are doing pretty well in the UCL so I think their chances of qualifying are the same as Dortmund.

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I don't think that any transfer can seriously change the chances of the teams (unless of course it's Haaland + Mbappe, but they hardly want Chelsea plus they can no longer play for another club in the Champions League this season). Maybe we will see Ronaldo's move that has been talked about so much? He's not showing anything special this season, but he has a certain Champions League magic associated with him.

@KTChampions to be fair the new coach of Chelsea deserves time at least one proper full season before we start to judge his work, and currently I feel that both team’s are equal but if I had to pick one team out of these two for proceeding to the next round then I would pick Dortmund because Jude Bellingham is playing for them.

Lastly getting Ronaldo would be a huge blunder on Chelsea’s part, because these day’s he play’s less and causes more distraction by his off field activities hence they should avoid this transfer and try for other player’s who’ll be committed to their coach/club.

If Potter doesn't change the trajectory Chelsea took under Tuchel, he won't have another season. These are the modern realities - you do not have time to "prepare", you must immediately show at least some result, and if it is good, you have a chance to work further to show an even better result.

Signing Ronaldo will most likely be a marketing ploy, but with all his age he has not lost his sense of goal and he still has a shot, so in some games even without playing all 90 minutes he can be useful.

I think Chelsea would be foolish to sign Cristiano Ronaldo at this moment. Because Cristiano Ronaldo is not performing well at the moment, one of the examples of which is that he was not included in the starting XI of his home country Portugal's World Cup match. Because Portugal's coach knows that Cristiano Ronaldo's legendary style of play no longer exists.

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Quote from: Juggy777 on December 06, 2022, 07:37:58 AM

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I don't think that any transfer can seriously change the chances of the teams (unless of course it's Haaland + Mbappe, but they hardly want Chelsea plus they can no longer play for another club in the Champions League this season). Maybe we will see Ronaldo's move that has been talked about so much? He's not showing anything special this season, but he has a certain Champions League magic associated with him.

@KTChampions to be fair the new coach of Chelsea deserves time at least one proper full season before we start to judge his work, and currently I feel that both team’s are equal but if I had to pick one team out of these two for proceeding to the next round then I would pick Dortmund because Jude Bellingham is playing for them.

Lastly getting Ronaldo would be a huge blunder on Chelsea’s part, because these day’s he play’s less and causes more distraction by his off field activities hence they should avoid this transfer and try for other player’s who’ll be committed to their coach/club.

If Potter doesn't change the trajectory Chelsea took under Tuchel, he won't have another season. These are the modern realities - you do not have time to "prepare", you must immediately show at least some result, and if it is good, you have a chance to work further to show an even better result.

Signing Ronaldo will most likely be a marketing ploy, but with all his age he has not lost his sense of goal and he still has a shot, so in some games even without playing all 90 minutes he can be useful.

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Quote from: 1kodumtek7 on December 07, 2022, 08:21:39 AM

The Champions League is after the World Cup yes but there is still going to be a long time until the matches to start. Teams will just hope not to see lasting injuries due to the World Cup. Because it would affect some favourite teams really deeply and we might see surprising results after that.

Bayern Munich are already in a worrying condition now. Because Mane is out for a long time due to a really bad injury. His return might be even mid February which means it is doubtful if he can play against PSG in the first leg. The team physiotherapists would do their best of course but we will see. In his absence Bayern Munich might be less productive. But it is still difficult to be sure of them as they are an unpredictable team.

I don't think Mane's absence will affect Bayern Munich's performance as a whole, because players who can score goals at Bayern Munich are not only Mane. In fact, other players have more and better goals than Mane, so I personally don't think Bayern Munich will be weak just because Mane is injured.
Also, whether or not Mane will be present in the match against PSG, basically it will be a difficult match for both teams because whatever the result can be.

But indeed, at least if Mane can be played in that match then of course it will be better for Bayern Munich than without Mane. But besides that, there will be a transfer window that will open before the start of the Champions League, and with the transfer market before the Champions League starts again, of course Bayern Munich must move quickly to get new players, especially pure strikers.
That way, there is still plenty of time for all teams to improve and strengthen their squad in the transfer window, as they still have time to be able to improve their team's performance after the World Cup.

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It was indeed his season,but this year seems to be a different season altogether,he hasn't score enough goals as he did last season,although the season has not gotten anywhere yet,but Barcelona's Lewandowski has began to show his goal scoring abilities in the Laliga,and might move ahead of Benzema in winning the goalden boot this year.

Benzema is not playing well this season. In fact he is not completely fit. If Benzema's fitness is right, he could have scored a lot of goals this season too. But he has missed many matches this season due to injuries. And still he is not fully recovered. Lewandowski is likely to be the top scorer this season. He has managed to adapt to the Barcelona team. And consistently performing very well in every match.

Benzema's injury has been preventing him to perform so well this season. He has not yet fully recovered and that's why ancelotti didn't wanna try to play him for full time against another team. Benzema needs more time to recover from his injury. that's why real madrid needs to fine a good substitution for him when he was not able performing with real madrid. Real madrid needs a good striker like benzema. real madrid already considered some names but real needs to make sure if one of them have meet criteria like benzema.
This is the most difficult situation for now when benzema was getting injured. Real madrid needs a good striker that can handle any chance to be goals like him

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Quote from: Iranus on December 06, 2022, 07:24:11 PM

Personally, I don't trust Graham Potter. I don't know why Chelsea management sacked an experienced coach like Thomas Tuchel. Chelsea won titles on platforms like the Champions League with a mediocre squad under Tuchel's help. I think if Tuchel was given enough time and funds he would have been able to strengthen and stabilize the Chelsea team.

No nothing would had changed as coaches like Thomas Tuchel are very one sided and refuses to adjust their formation to suit things. Thomas Tuchel couldn't change his formation even when things weren't working and kept on playing the same prayers even when they aren't giving the team results. Thomas Tuchel also downgraded all our youths talents and when his first team choices weren't performing, instead of him to acknowledge his mistakes, he kept on making them while insisting he isn't making a mistake not playing this youngsters.

Thomas Tuchel chase alway many young players that were meant to be the future of Chelsea. Graham Potter on the other hands welcomes everybody and watch out for who best suit his version for the club. Graham Potter will succeed at Chelsea, it's just a matter of time. Thomas Tuchel met an inform young blood built by Frank lampard and he just had to guide them to get success from them. Graham is trying to work with players Thomas Tuchel bought that weren't necessary.

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The Champions League is after the World Cup yes but there is still going to be a long time until the matches to start. Teams will just hope not to see lasting injuries due to the World Cup. Because it would affect some favourite teams really deeply and we might see surprising results after that.

Bayern Munich are already in a worrying condition now. Because Mane is out for a long time due to a really bad injury. His return might be even mid February which means it is doubtful if he can play against PSG in the first leg. The team physiotherapists would do their best of course but we will see. In his absence Bayern Munich might be less productive. But it is still difficult to be sure of them as they are an unpredictable team.

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Quote from: dataispower on December 07, 2022, 04:25:24 AM

Quote from: martyns on December 06, 2022, 10:34:05 PM

The champions league is going to begin again after the world cup,and we would see which team can come out to win it. Real Madrid did an excellent job last season winning their league and the champions league as Karim Benzema went on to be the highest goal scorer in Lalliga and also winning the Ballon d'or for the year.
It was indeed his season,but this year seems to be a different season altogether,he hasn't score enough goals as he did last season,although the season has not gotten anywhere yet,but Barcelona's Lewandowski has began to show his goal scoring abilities in the Laliga,and might move ahead of Benzema in winning the goalden boot this year.

PSG has a the team to win this year's champions league. Let's just see how they perform against Bayern. If Verratti and Neymer don't get injured then PSG has a big chance. They all have to be top of their game if they're to win it. There are so many top teams in the competition.

Lewandoski is miles ahead of Benzema in goals this season and I don't know how he's going to catch up because Lewy doesn't look like a guy that is taking a break any time soon. Both Madrid and Barça would battle it out for the La Liga but I believe Lewandoski will win the Spanish golden boot without struggle.

Bayern Munich is also one of the candidates in winning the Champions League title this season, also don't forget Manchester City who are also playing well even with their young striker they just brought in from Borussia Dortmund who is so ferocious in front of goal. It's only the last 16, so I think we'll see the real strength of the teams that are in the Champions League this season when the competition has started to narrow down to the quarter-finals. Also we don't know how the team has changed after returning from this international break. There will be players who are forced to be absent due to injury and there are also those who will bring in new players during the January transfer window.

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Quote from: Ayers on December 06, 2022, 10:20:44 PM

Yes, I agree with you, the biggest issue I see with the switch from Thomas Tuchel to Graham Potter is that Potter hasn't had much experience with a big club, so he may be a bit rusty as a manager. In my opinion, a coach has to be disciplined and quite strict in order to maintain a big club and big names. Graham's decisions have been shaky from the beginning, and Chelsea have suffered for it.

Since he has not won a game in the last five matches, management is also putting quite a bit of pressure on him.

My hope is that Graham will find out the mistakes and correct them as soon as possible. I think he doesn't have that much time left, as if Chelsea loses some more games, he might be sacked.

In fact, I think Graham Potter performance with Chelsea looked better in the Champions League because fans had doubts when he was appointed as Tuchel replacement due to his lack of experience in the Champions League, but all doubts seemed to be swept away by Chelsea performance in the Champions League. Graham Potter only needs support to bring Chelsea to become the strongest team in the Champions League.

Chelsea, whose finances are good after ownership belonged to Todd Boehly last season, will be very ambitious in the January transfer market, because there are many rumors circulating that Chelsea might bring in Ronaldo to strengthen the squad in the Champions League.

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