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December 09, 2022, 11:23:18 AM
If we take only marketing goals, then it does not matter how Ronaldo plays. He remains one of the most popular athletes worldwide. Chelsea will buy him for free, which may not be such a stupid decision even if Ronaldo keeps his huge salary. And I don't think that Ronaldo is already that bad (more precisely, he became bad in just a year) - last year he was the top 3 scorer in the Premier League and this year he is retired? Hard to believe.
When it comes to age, you can't do anything when age is no longer by your side, particularly in football game which involves strength, agility, Mental energy, and lot more to play. Looking at his performance in this world, it's clearly seen that he has nothing much to offer in the field Play, and I don't really think that he suits the kind of striker that Chelsea needs right now.

However, buying him is still not that bad since he's on free transfer and there are other striker already in Chelsea.

You are biased - from your words it seems that the entire World Cup he sits on the bench and does nothing, but in fact he earned a penalty + scored it, plus that goal that was recorded (fairly) for Bruno Fernandes was only possible because of Ronaldo's jump. And in general, during the time that he played, he played in the favor of the team. In the end, it's very strange: Ronaldo is criticized for "doing nothing but scoring goals", but when he does not score goals, he is criticized in the same way.
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December 09, 2022, 10:33:49 AM
even Aubameyang has not been able to make a good contribution on the Chelsea front line this season so if Chelsea officially gets Ronaldo I think Aubameyang will be Graham second choice in the second half of this season.
Romours staggering about the Ronaldo move to Chelsea, well I don't have any doubt yet, let's wait for the outcome. Graham potter needs an experience, well position balance striker that is capable of scoring goals for the team. Chelsea need sharp striker, and Pierre Aubameyang doesn't fit in the pattern of the blues. If Cristiano Ronaldo deal is been triggered and he comes to Chelsea, there's every possibility that he's definitely going to be a starter under Graham Potter.
It's still a rumour but i think that will be more suitable of that must be on the transfers discussion thread. Chelsea has been finalizing the deal with nkuku. Chelsea will come back against dortmund with some new players.
I saw that some news about chelsea already planned to bought some new players as preparation against dortmund for the champion league that will behing around february which is still very long.
There are many rumous related with ronaldo but none of these rumours were true except termination of ronaldo's contract by manchester united. Dortmund itself may lose key players are player like jude bellingham may move in january
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December 09, 2022, 09:51:23 AM
If Cristiano Ronaldo deal is been triggered and he comes to Chelsea, there's every possibility that he's definitely going to be a starter under Graham Potter.
Of course he will be a definite starter, Chelsea do not have any striker that is better than him, notwithstanding his age. Quite a lot of people think Ronaldo is slowing down, but i don't think he is, definitely he can't be as sharp as he was 10 years ago, but he is still a productive footballer that is far better in his position than many players younger than he is. Aubameyang can't compare to him in anyway, and Tuchel who was the main reason Aubameyang came to Chelsea is now gone, so tbh he looks lost already and that could be the reason for his poor start to life at Stamford Bridge, if i am to help Chelsea make decisions on who to sign, i will definitely get Ronaldo for one season at least, with a possibility of an extension, it is a smart deal imo.
Christiano Ronaldo is a big name,and even the sound of his name will make defenders scared and play woefully with him on the pitch.But I'm not quite sure the deal is going to be agreed because Ronaldo has had a bad name at Manchester United and that might make premier league coaches scared of signing him.
But if a deal is to be agreed,and the players  at Chelsea should cooperate with him and welcome his coming,then I think Chelsea will be in a good shape.
Aubameyang might be a little bit frustrated with the fact that they signed Ronaldo,and that might lead to his exit from the club.
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December 09, 2022, 08:32:54 AM
Point of correction, watching Real Madrid versus Liverpool live is not everyone's dream do not try to generalize the statement. Based on personal feelings and perception I would rather choose to watch Bayern Munich vs PSG than to watch Real Madrid versus Liverpool. What other interesting things are we going to see in Real Madrid versus Liverpool if not inability to score goals. They have met several times in the Champions League and I have known how the vibe use to be. I don't want to witness it anymore especially this season that Liverpool is not in form
Who says it's not everyone's dream Real Madrid and Liverpool have a lot of fans so of course there will be a lot of watching this match even though it's accompanied by Bayern vs PSG.
Even though Real Madrid and Liverpool often meet in the Champions League, this game is indeed dominated by Real Madrid, but it is possible that the fans will just give up, remember that the Champions League is always different from every year. I know Liverpool are not doing well in the EPL, but for UCL to be able to show its good game, it's no wonder that when it comes to playing against Real Madrid, fans will always expect the best for their game.
Real Madrid is undoubtedly a very strong team. All the players in their team are very tactical. But they have a lot of potential to do well in La-Liga. But there are many good teams in the Champions League who will be very difficult to beat.
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December 09, 2022, 08:18:07 AM
even Aubameyang has not been able to make a good contribution on the Chelsea front line this season so if Chelsea officially gets Ronaldo I think Aubameyang will be Graham second choice in the second half of this season.
Romours staggering about the Ronaldo move to Chelsea, well I don't have any doubt yet, let's wait for the outcome. Graham potter needs an experience, well position balance striker that is capable of scoring goals for the team. Chelsea need sharp striker, and Pierre Aubameyang doesn't fit in the pattern of the blues. If Cristiano Ronaldo deal is been triggered and he comes to Chelsea, there's every possibility that he's definitely going to be a starter under Graham Potter.
It is true that Aubameyang has not been able to show anything special for Chelsea's game. And that's what makes Chelsea have to have players who can contribute more than the players they have now. Rumors about Cristiano Ronaldo are still quite wild at the moment and all the rumors have not even been confirmed. So let's wait until the World Cup is over for an answer.
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December 09, 2022, 07:44:48 AM
If Cristiano Ronaldo deal is been triggered and he comes to Chelsea, there's every possibility that he's definitely going to be a starter under Graham Potter.
Of course he will be a definite starter, Chelsea do not have any striker that is better than him, notwithstanding his age. Quite a lot of people think Ronaldo is slowing down, but i don't think he is, definitely he can't be as sharp as he was 10 years ago, but he is still a productive footballer that is far better in his position than many players younger than he is. Aubameyang can't compare to him in anyway, and Tuchel who was the main reason Aubameyang came to Chelsea is now gone, so tbh he looks lost already and that could be the reason for his poor start to life at Stamford Bridge, if i am to help Chelsea make decisions on who to sign, i will definitely get Ronaldo for one season at least, with a possibility of an extension, it is a smart deal imo.
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December 09, 2022, 07:32:11 AM
even Aubameyang has not been able to make a good contribution on the Chelsea front line this season so if Chelsea officially gets Ronaldo I think Aubameyang will be Graham second choice in the second half of this season.
Romours staggering about the Ronaldo move to Chelsea, well I don't have any doubt yet, let's wait for the outcome. Graham potter needs an experience, well position balance striker that is capable of scoring goals for the team. Chelsea need sharp striker, and Pierre Aubameyang doesn't fit in the pattern of the blues. If Cristiano Ronaldo deal is been triggered and he comes to Chelsea, there's every possibility that he's definitely going to be a starter under Graham Potter.
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December 09, 2022, 07:28:50 AM
Point of correction, watching Real Madrid versus Liverpool live is not everyone's dream do not try to generalize the statement. Based on personal feelings and perception I would rather choose to watch Bayern Munich vs PSG than to watch Real Madrid versus Liverpool. What other interesting things are we going to see in Real Madrid versus Liverpool if not inability to score goals. They have met several times in the Champions League and I have known how the vibe use to be. I don't want to witness it anymore especially this season that Liverpool is not in form
Who says it's not everyone's dream Real Madrid and Liverpool have a lot of fans so of course there will be a lot of watching this match even though it's accompanied by Bayern vs PSG.
Even though Real Madrid and Liverpool often meet in the Champions League, this game is indeed dominated by Real Madrid, but it is possible that the fans will just give up, remember that the Champions League is always different from every year. I know Liverpool are not doing well in the EPL, but for UCL to be able to show its good game, it's no wonder that when it comes to playing against Real Madrid, fans will always expect the best for their game.
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December 09, 2022, 07:00:14 AM
Point of correction, watching Real Madrid versus Liverpool live is not everyone's dream do not try to generalize the statement. Based on personal feelings and perception I would rather choose to watch Bayern Munich vs PSG than to watch Real Madrid versus Liverpool. What other interesting things are we going to see in Real Madrid versus Liverpool if not inability to score goals. They have met several times in the Champions League and I have known how the vibe use to be. I don't want to witness it anymore especially this season that Liverpool is not in form
I'm just different from you in this regard because I will be very happy to watch both matches this season, because Real Madrid versus Liverpool this season will not be the same as Real Madrid versus Liverpool in the past so I'm just waiting for the best surprise from Liverpool in this season even though Liverpool have not been in their best form this season. Likewise with Bayern Munich vs PSG where I will also watch it because I am sure their match will be very exciting to watch.
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December 09, 2022, 04:08:18 AM
even Aubameyang has not been able to make a good contribution on the Chelsea front line this season so if Chelsea officially gets Ronaldo I think Aubameyang will be Graham second choice in the second half of this season.
It is going to be a really smart move for Chelsea should they sign Ronaldo, the only problem i can forsee now is just the bad image that the media have given Ronaldo, they have made him look like a petulant individual who is concerned only about himself and not his team, that can be the only worry that Chelsea would have in making this deal possible, they would consider that if these reports on Ronaldo are true, then he might bring disunity into their team.

Having said that, Ronaldo is a great goalscorer, and Chelsea need that atm, Aubameyang and Broja are not exceptional footballers, they are very good players, but they cannot produce the goals in numbers that Chelsea require to win trophies, Ronaldo on the ther hand can come into Chelsea and help them win trophies with his goals, i'm pretty sure Todd Boehly would be really considering this move.
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December 09, 2022, 03:58:58 AM
I'm hoping to get a ticket to the Real Madrid vs Liverpool game. Feel like Liverpool will have a good shot this time [even though I do wish we beat them in the Champions League final last year
Watching live the match between Real Madrid vs Liverpool is everyone's dream, I really hope to get tickets to be able to watch the match between Real Madrid vs Liverpool live, because this match is a repeat of last year's final, even though Liverpool have not been able to get a win against Real Madrid. Madrid but I'm optimistic that meeting in the last 16 this year will be a comeback for Liverpool to make history and be able to get rid of real Madrid from the last 16 of the Champions League, although it's difficult but I'm sure Luiz Diaz, Mohammad Salah et al can beat Real Madrid at the meeting later.
Point of correction, watching Real Madrid versus Liverpool live is not everyone's dream do not try to generalize the statement. Based on personal feelings and perception I would rather choose to watch Bayern Munich vs PSG than to watch Real Madrid versus Liverpool. What other interesting things are we going to see in Real Madrid versus Liverpool if not inability to score goals. They have met several times in the Champions League and I have known how the vibe use to be. I don't want to witness it anymore especially this season that Liverpool is not in form
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December 09, 2022, 02:09:46 AM
I don't think Mane's absence will affect Bayern Munich's performance as a whole, because players who can score goals at Bayern Munich are not only Mane. In fact, other players have more and better goals than Mane, so I personally don't think Bayern Munich will be weak just because Mane is injured.
Also, whether or not Mane will be present in the match against PSG, basically it will be a difficult match for both teams because whatever the result can be.
But indeed, at least if Mane can be played in that match then of course it will be better for Bayern Munich than without Mane. But besides that, there will be a transfer window that will open before the start of the Champions League, and with the transfer market before the Champions League starts again, of course Bayern Munich must move quickly to get new players, especially pure strikers.
That way, there is still plenty of time for all teams to improve and strengthen their squad in the transfer window, as they still have time to be able to improve their team's performance after the World Cup.
Sadio Mane’s absence will be felt in the squad, if not for anything his presence alone presents the coach with more options in their attack so his absence will surely be felt but there are still other players that will fill in, in his absence and can still put up good performances for the team but in terms of weakness and strength I don't think the team will be weak without Sadio Mane, they can still play and win games comfortably without him. Sadly, I can’t say the same for his former club, Liverpool.

There is no doubt that Bayern Munich have a replacement for Sadio Mané, but his absence will be felt, that is for sure.
He was brought to Bayern as a replacement for Robert Lewandowski, and although he has not been scoring all the matches for them as Lewandowski did for them, he is certainly playing a significant role in the team.

As their match against PSG is really pivotal, I really hope that the team will be able to perform well even without Sadio Mané. I think what they can do is play Choupo-Moting in the central position and play Thomas Muller right behind him and maybe play Jamal Musiala and Serge Gnabry in the wing positions.


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December 08, 2022, 07:41:20 PM
If we take only marketing goals, then it does not matter how Ronaldo plays. He remains one of the most popular athletes worldwide. Chelsea will buy him for free, which may not be such a stupid decision even if Ronaldo keeps his huge salary. And I don't think that Ronaldo is already that bad (more precisely, he became bad in just a year) - last year he was the top 3 scorer in the Premier League and this year he is retired? Hard to believe.
When it comes to age, you can't do anything when age is no longer by your side, particularly in football game which involves strength, agility, Mental energy, and lot more to play. Looking at his performance in this world, it's clearly seen that he has nothing much to offer in the field Play, and I don't really think that he suits the kind of striker that Chelsea needs right now.

However, buying him is still not that bad since he's on free transfer and there are other striker already in Chelsea.
I believe Chelsea can consider Ronaldo for at least two seasons if they were previously able to consider Aubameyang, whose caliber is not equal to Ronaldo's. I believe that Ronaldo is still an excellent fit for the Premier League, especially for teams in need of a striker. A short-term deal shouldn't provide too much of a challenge for Chelsea and Ronaldo. Tuchel's intervention in the Aubameyang deal during the last transfer window was obvious because the two are known to get along well. Aside from that, it is certain that Chelsea would want Ronaldo during this transfer window since he possesses a different quality than Aubameyang.
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December 08, 2022, 07:31:35 PM
I'm hoping to get a ticket to the Real Madrid vs Liverpool game. Feel like Liverpool will have a good shot this time [even though I do wish we beat them in the Champions League final last year
Watching live the match between Real Madrid vs Liverpool is everyone's dream, I really hope to get tickets to be able to watch the match between Real Madrid vs Liverpool live, because this match is a repeat of last year's final, even though Liverpool have not been able to get a win against Real Madrid. Madrid but I'm optimistic that meeting in the last 16 this year will be a comeback for Liverpool to make history and be able to get rid of real Madrid from the last 16 of the Champions League, although it's difficult but I'm sure Luiz Diaz, Mohammad Salah et al can beat Real Madrid at the meeting later.
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December 08, 2022, 07:13:53 PM
I'm hoping to get a ticket to the Real Madrid vs Liverpool game. Feel like Liverpool will have a good shot this time [even though I do wish we beat them in the Champions League final last year
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December 08, 2022, 06:58:56 PM

On second thought, I think we should consider poor form of Ronaldo as a lack of cooperation with his teammates, not just his age because, in my opinion, Ronaldo's age didn't affect his ability to score goals neither did his age affect his strength and pace on the pitch but I think he's been through a lot lately being a human that has affected his ability to do things they way he ought to do when on the field of play.

Can Ronaldo do well as a Chelsea striker? Yes, he can because he will be welcomed by the fans and the management and the players of Chelsea will love to work with him because just like Manchester City players who will rather not score goals to ensure that Haaland scores a goal in every match Ronaldo will not be under much pressure to get the ball always before he can score goals because his teammates at Chelsea will be doing much of assistance for him to easily score goals.

Ronaldo is definitely not the same Ronaldo we know for many years, he has become very slow and not clinical in front of goal. Talking about team work and cooperation I would say he is still a team player and cooperates with his teammates. From my point of view I think his age is playing a major role in his lack of goals and struggling with his form. I think Ronaldo is close to retirement and much should not be expected from him.
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December 08, 2022, 04:34:45 PM
Firing and bringing in a new coach is a risk taken by Chelsea. Don't be surprised when the sacking doesn't produce better results than the sacked coach will become a conversation that will corner Chelsea for making a decision too quickly. Also vice versa if the dismissal produces very good results then they will be given credit for doing something very right.
This has already happened between Thomas Tuchel, Chelsea and Graham Potter. Now the best choice in my opinion is to continue to put faith in Graham Potter. And also give him the opportunity to freely get several injections of new players, even with the limitations that Chelsea are currently experiencing.
With dismissal already a decision for Chelsea's management, indeed there is always someone who is cornered because the dismissal was too short when Chelsea lost in the Champions League, but what management might be dissatisfied with Tuchel even though he is a great coach and gave several titles to Chelsea.
The hope for the future is indeed in Graham Potter, even though there are many twists and turns that Chelsea have experienced in the Premier League, but of course, it all takes a long process, it has just started for Graham Potter, at least in a few seasons he can show Chelsea about other support, indeed it will Potter needed to choose the players he would recruit.
Actually, if you look at some of the reports in the media, it's not a matter of whether you are satisfied or not, but it's true that Tuchel and Todd have a slightly different opinion, moreover, maybe we know that Tuchel was very comfortable in the Abramovich era, but in reverse in the Todd era.
There will definitely be some things that can't be fixed when a management reshuffle occurs.
But indeed this is only limited to wild speculation that is happening there, while the truth is clearly unknown, especially with their current separated conditions, so I don't think anyone will reconfirm this.
Chelsea now just have to focus and have to be able to heal some of their core players because that will likely make a difference later.
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December 08, 2022, 03:16:11 PM
I speculate on your point above Ronaldo is a little selfish, he is more concerned with individual titles than team achievements. Of course he did, Ronaldo is a player with big ambitions, he always wants to be the best. As long as Messi is still actively playing, Ronaldo will always try to be superior to Messi, even though in reality he cannot surpass some of what Messi has achieved, he will always try to be better than his competitors.

The reason he wants to continue playing in the Champions League is because Messi is there, but if Ronaldo wants to add to his collection of Champions League titles at his current age, Bayern Munich is the right place for him.

 

I agree he tends to be competitive at times but that doesn't mean he is selfish, he is human the desire to demand more from himself, that's a good inspiration alone for any player out there.

As for Bayern Munich being the right call for Cristiano Ronaldo I would also say yes but they're currently saying no to him after several attempt's of his agent trying to push him innit that club. They agree he is a good professional but tactics, age and building around yougins are much more importanta.

Me Prayers for his truthfully is to win the FIFA World Cup with Portugal currently, he has been poor but it's so fast hoe they forget Ronaldo has been the only hope for Portugal for years, same as United last season.
It's pretty disheartening that some players in the club and old player's are forcefully chasing him out and wants him to sit on the bench.
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December 08, 2022, 03:10:37 PM
It is doubtful whether Chelsea will get anything better if they add Ronaldo to the team. Because Ronaldo does not have a place in the starting eleven in the national team, due to his poor form. In fact, giving a name can never survive. So the money that Chelsea will buy Ronaldo with, will benefit if they buy two or three other players.
Can we really say that over one match! Like, Portugal has played 4 games so far in the world cup and Ronaldo has featured in all 4 games, only coming out the bench just once and that's was in the knockout against Korea and someone, he's not a first team player no more, that's hilarious to me.

Ronaldo in Chelsea, I don't think he would do badly. His got all the motivatioms he could get. A team hedged on him, a team aging in all the leagues he loves, the world looking on him with expectations and that's enough to make him want to improve on his performance, help the tea and make his fans proud. He could still do that.
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December 08, 2022, 02:56:32 PM
Thomas Tuchel was monogamous, it's true. But still he was a very experienced coach. I would say Chelsea management should have given Tuchel enough time and given him a chance. But the Chelsea management has not given Tuchel enough opportunities this season. Was Chelsea's squad strong enough this season? I don't think so. The weakness in the Chelsea team is not only tactical. Their squad also lacks talented players. And because of this Graham Potter has not been able to stabilize this team yet. Graham Potter may be able to stabilize the team, but Chelsea management will definitely need to spend money and build a squad with more talented players.
To say that the manager who won the UCL for you, and overachieved in any category should have some understanding of what the formation and tactics should be. If Chelsea management believed that Tuchel was too strict, then they should have been happy that he is, because it worked, they won the UCL, I think that alone should be good enough reason to wait at least a whole year before firing a manager.

If they saw him for like 5-6 games or something and it didn't look great and fired him, then it was already decided. I know that they probably had Potter in mind beforehand and that means they were looking for any reason to fire Tuchel no matter what happened and fired him right away after few and results.
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