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Quote from: Iranus on December 06, 2022, 07:24:11 PM

Personally, I don't trust Graham Potter. I don't know why Chelsea management sacked an experienced coach like Thomas Tuchel. Chelsea won titles on platforms like the Champions League with a mediocre squad under Tuchel's help. I think if Tuchel was given enough time and funds he would have been able to strengthen and stabilize the Chelsea team.

I'm not underestimating Graham Potter. But Potter has not coached any big club yet. And he didn't even win a major league title. So I have considerable doubts about how much he will be able to strengthen Chelsea.

I don't blame with current Chelsea manager Thomas Tuchel have sacked after inconsistency performance at Primer League started, but have questionable about the replacement for Tuchel with manager less experience in bigger team. There are not any trophies yet in his career during become manager at several teams and I think England nationality make Graham Potter priority to be manager for Chelsea than extended Tuchel until his contract over.

Nowadays Chelsea still have chance at Champion League against with Dortmund, I think if failed make Chelsea lead to quarter final, sacking his position from Chelsea manager should questionable because he was failed at primer league and not enough reason extended him get fail again at Champion League.

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Quote from: martyns on December 06, 2022, 10:34:05 PM

It was indeed his season,but this year seems to be a different season altogether,he hasn't score enough goals as he did last season,although the season has not gotten anywhere yet,but Barcelona's Lewandowski has began to show his goal scoring abilities in the Laliga,and might move ahead of Benzema in winning the goalden boot this year.

Benzema is not playing well this season. In fact he is not completely fit. If Benzema's fitness is right, he could have scored a lot of goals this season too. But he has missed many matches this season due to injuries. And still he is not fully recovered. Lewandowski is likely to be the top scorer this season. He has managed to adapt to the Barcelona team. And consistently performing very well in every match.

Benzema's injury is the reason why he can't play optimally this season. How can he play well like last season when he only spent his time healing the injuries he had.
Something that is difficult for him to experience this season, because of a very basic problem for a football player, namely injury. And what's even more worrying, his absence on the field made Real Madrid's game not optimal either.

Real Madrid coach Ancelotti will have to adjust his match strategy without Benzema this season. Because Benzema's fitness is not good. It is very difficult to say for sure if he will be able to play consistently this season. So Ancelotti will rely on the performances of Vinicius and Rodrygo this season. But if Ancelotti wants to keep his midfield stable, he will definitely need to find an alternative to Luka Modric. If Madrid's midfield is not strong, their performance will not be stable.

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All of decision will be on todd's hand. Todd is the main reason why tuchel got sacked easily. I think that chelsea management will not be sacking the coach like that and give him another chance but that's different with todd caused by todd was thinking if he was playing a foot ball manager game. That being said that if the result from chelsea was so bad caused by it needs the transition. There are rumours about potter will be sacked again but i hope if that will not true at all.
Chelsea needs to slowly rebuild its team again. it needs more time to make it happen. Todd must not become an impatience owner.

It will be a brilliant idea if Chelsea decide to give Potter more time to really get to know and understand the team better, they have to create an atmosphere where the head coach will feel free without fear to impliment his preferred tactics and strategies for the betterment of the team. That being said I believe if Graham Potter is given more time he will be able to transform the team to get the desired results.

I think that it would be impossible to happen. The chelsea management itself was undercontrol by its owner. Any decision that already made by the owner must be executed by the management. This is the big problem for chelsea when players are so difficult to adapt with the situation in the club. That was also making the players may not able to perform so well during the match against another team. It can be seen from how many goals made by chelsea in the last match on EPL which was zero goal.
That must be a shame for a big club like chelsea that was not even able to make a goal against another team. We did know how good chelsea in term of counter attack but since it has under new owner and it has degrade into the mediocre club.
Chelsea has been losing its winner mentality.

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Quote from: martyns on December 06, 2022, 10:34:05 PM

The champions league is going to begin again after the world cup,and we would see which team can come out to win it. Real Madrid did an excellent job last season winning their league and the champions league as Karim Benzema went on to be the highest goal scorer in Lalliga and also winning the Ballon d'or for the year.
It was indeed his season,but this year seems to be a different season altogether,he hasn't score enough goals as he did last season,although the season has not gotten anywhere yet,but Barcelona's Lewandowski has began to show his goal scoring abilities in the Laliga,and might move ahead of Benzema in winning the goalden boot this year.

PSG has a the team to win this year's champions league. Let's just see how they perform against Bayern. If Verratti and Neymer don't get injured then PSG has a big chance. They all have to be top of their game if they're to win it. There are so many top teams in the competition.

Lewandoski is miles ahead of Benzema in goals this season and I don't know how he's going to catch up because Lewy doesn't look like a guy that is taking a break any time soon. Both Madrid and Barça would battle it out for the La Liga but I believe Lewandoski will win the Spanish golden boot without struggle.

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Quote from: martyns on December 06, 2022, 10:34:05 PM

It was indeed his season,but this year seems to be a different season altogether,he hasn't score enough goals as he did last season,although the season has not gotten anywhere yet,but Barcelona's Lewandowski has began to show his goal scoring abilities in the Laliga,and might move ahead of Benzema in winning the goalden boot this year.

Benzema is not playing well this season. In fact he is not completely fit. If Benzema's fitness is right, he could have scored a lot of goals this season too. But he has missed many matches this season due to injuries. And still he is not fully recovered. Lewandowski is likely to be the top scorer this season. He has managed to adapt to the Barcelona team. And consistently performing very well in every match.

Benzema's injury is the reason why he can't play optimally this season. How can he play well like last season when he only spent his time healing the injuries he had.
Something that is difficult for him to experience this season, because of a very basic problem for a football player, namely injury. And what's even more worrying, his absence on the field made Real Madrid's game not optimal either.

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Quote from: martyns on December 06, 2022, 10:34:05 PM

It was indeed his season,but this year seems to be a different season altogether,he hasn't score enough goals as he did last season,although the season has not gotten anywhere yet,but Barcelona's Lewandowski has began to show his goal scoring abilities in the Laliga,and might move ahead of Benzema in winning the goalden boot this year.

Benzema is not playing well this season. In fact he is not completely fit. If Benzema's fitness is right, he could have scored a lot of goals this season too. But he has missed many matches this season due to injuries. And still he is not fully recovered. Lewandowski is likely to be the top scorer this season. He has managed to adapt to the Barcelona team. And consistently performing very well in every match.

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The champions league is going to begin again after the world cup,and we would see which team can come out to win it. Real Madrid did an excellent job last season winning their league and the champions league as Karim Benzema went on to be the highest goal scorer in Lalliga and also winning the Ballon d'or for the year.
It was indeed his season,but this year seems to be a different season altogether,he hasn't score enough goals as he did last season,although the season has not gotten anywhere yet,but Barcelona's Lewandowski has began to show his goal scoring abilities in the Laliga,and might move ahead of Benzema in winning the goalden boot this year.

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If Chelsea can give Graham sometime I think their will be good result. Chelsea has never believed to give a coach chance to see if their will be a good result. Chelsea is too quick to sack their coaches when their performance is poor.

All of decision will be on todd's hand. Todd is the main reason why tuchel got sacked easily. I think that chelsea management will not be sacking the coach like that and give him another chance but that's different with todd caused by todd was thinking if he was playing a foot ball manager game. That being said that if the result from chelsea was so bad caused by it needs the transition. There are rumours about potter will be sacked again but i hope if that will not true at all.
Chelsea needs to slowly rebuild its team again. it needs more time to make it happen. Todd must not become an impatience owner.

It will be a brilliant idea if Chelsea decide to give Potter more time to really get to know and understand the team better, they have to create an atmosphere where the head coach will feel free without fear to impliment his preferred tactics and strategies for the betterment of the team. That being said I believe if Graham Potter is given more time he will be able to transform the team to get the desired results.

Personally, I don't trust Graham Potter. I don't know why Chelsea management sacked an experienced coach like Thomas Tuchel. Chelsea won titles on platforms like the Champions League with a mediocre squad under Tuchel's help. I think if Tuchel was given enough time and funds he would have been able to strengthen and stabilize the Chelsea team.

I'm not underestimating Graham Potter. But Potter has not coached any big club yet. And he didn't even win a major league title. So I have considerable doubts about how much he will be able to strengthen Chelsea.

Yes, I agree with you, the biggest issue I see with the switch from Thomas Tuchel to Graham Potter is that Potter hasn't had much experience with a big club, so he may be a bit rusty as a manager. In my opinion, a coach has to be disciplined and quite strict in order to maintain a big club and big names. Graham's decisions have been shaky from the beginning, and Chelsea have suffered for it.

Since he has not won a game in the last five matches, management is also putting quite a bit of pressure on him.

My hope is that Graham will find out the mistakes and correct them as soon as possible. I think he doesn't have that much time left, as if Chelsea loses some more games, he might be sacked.

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I hope that if Graham Potter is given longer chances in charge of Chelsea he won't let down those who put the faith in him. Because there are still many coaches who in my opinion are better than him now who are more trustworthy.

If Chelsea can give Graham sometime I think their will be good result. Chelsea has never believed to give a coach chance to see if their will be a good result. Chelsea is too quick to sack their coaches when their performance is poor.

All of decision will be on todd's hand. Todd is the main reason why tuchel got sacked easily. I think that chelsea management will not be sacking the coach like that and give him another chance but that's different with todd caused by todd was thinking if he was playing a foot ball manager game. That being said that if the result from chelsea was so bad caused by it needs the transition. There are rumours about potter will be sacked again but i hope if that will not true at all.
Chelsea needs to slowly rebuild its team again. it needs more time to make it happen. Todd must not become an impatience owner.

It will be a brilliant idea if Chelsea decide to give Potter more time to really get to know and understand the team better, they have to create an atmosphere where the head coach will feel free without fear to impliment his preferred tactics and strategies for the betterment of the team. That being said I believe if Graham Potter is given more time he will be able to transform the team to get the desired results.

Personally, I don't trust Graham Potter. I don't know why Chelsea management sacked an experienced coach like Thomas Tuchel. Chelsea won titles on platforms like the Champions League with a mediocre squad under Tuchel's help. I think if Tuchel was given enough time and funds he would have been able to strengthen and stabilize the Chelsea team.

I'm not underestimating Graham Potter. But Potter has not coached any big club yet. And he didn't even win a major league title. So I have considerable doubts about how much he will be able to strengthen Chelsea.

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Quote from: Juggy777 on December 06, 2022, 07:37:58 AM

to be fair the new coach of Chelsea deserves time at least one proper full season before we start to judge his work,

Whilst i am always in full support of managers needing more time than they more often than not get, i am not so optimistic about Graham Potter no matter the time i think he is afforded. Todd Boehly only fired Tuchel because their ideas were not in line, and not because he found a better manager in Graham, because Tuchel is definitely way much better. He'd definitely be given more time as i do not expect Boehly to become like Roman Abramovich who fires managers like he is changing underwears, so i expect Graham Potter to be given time to buy his own players by next summer and then we'll see how he manages the team, but imo i consider him a coach for a small team, no disrespect to him or what he achieved at Brighton, but i am not expecting him to win any trophies with/for Chelsea.

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Quote from: Fritwakky on December 06, 2022, 10:43:46 AM

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Cristiano Ronaldo joining Chelsea wouldn't be too bad. Because Chelsea are in dire need of a superstar at the moment, if Ronaldo joins, he will get more playing opportunities than Manchester United, meaning Chelsea will focus entirely on Ronaldo. Ronaldo's career at Chelsea will be more profitable than signing Ronaldo.

Chelsea has been facing problems in all of sectors. The attackers were not playing so well to convert any chance become goals, midfield were also feeling so difficult to give pass a dribble for the striker. The defenders were also sometime were making some blunders. The hardest thing to fix when the club has problems in all of positions. There might be a massive change in the club. Tuchel known what he shall do caused by he was a coach who buying so many current players in the chelsea but potter has not clue about what shall he do with the players bought by tuchel. The problem become even worst since todd is always making intervention in the club. Todd must let the club do the best based on its own decision.

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I hope that if Graham Potter is given longer chances in charge of Chelsea he won't let down those who put the faith in him. Because there are still many coaches who in my opinion are better than him now who are more trustworthy.

If Chelsea can give Graham sometime I think their will be good result. Chelsea has never believed to give a coach chance to see if their will be a good result. Chelsea is too quick to sack their coaches when their performance is poor.

All of decision will be on todd's hand. Todd is the main reason why tuchel got sacked easily. I think that chelsea management will not be sacking the coach like that and give him another chance but that's different with todd caused by todd was thinking if he was playing a foot ball manager game. That being said that if the result from chelsea was so bad caused by it needs the transition. There are rumours about potter will be sacked again but i hope if that will not true at all.
Chelsea needs to slowly rebuild its team again. it needs more time to make it happen. Todd must not become an impatience owner.

It will be a brilliant idea if Chelsea decide to give Potter more time to really get to know and understand the team better, they have to create an atmosphere where the head coach will feel free without fear to impliment his preferred tactics and strategies for the betterment of the team. That being said I believe if Graham Potter is given more time he will be able to transform the team to get the desired results.

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Quote from: arimamib on December 06, 2022, 11:59:02 AM

Bringing in players who are already registered in the Champions League with other clubs cannot help Chelsea, they can only play in the domestic league, while the Champions League must wait for next season. Ronaldo is very likely to be played in the Champions League because the club that Ronaldo defended before did not qualify for the Champions League. This situation can be used by Chelsea to increase their strength to compete in the Champions League. Ronaldo really can't do much and isn't as sharp as he used to be, but his experience and skills can help Chelsea go a step further.

yes it is very profitable for Chelsea to improve their quality in the champions league arena. this possibility will come true if ronaldo agrees to the proposal from chelsea. Chelsea need someone who is more experienced in the champions league to realize their hopes of becoming ucl champions this season. Chelsea will face representatives from Germany for the round of 16 where dortmund will be their opponents. If Chelsea don't improve in the winter window, maybe Chelsea will have a little trouble when they face Dortmund. Dortmund is a team that hinders big team teams in the champions league especially this season dortmund has players on the rise like Bellingham of course that will make it difficult for Chelsea to win 3 points.

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Quote from: Juggy777 on December 06, 2022, 07:37:58 AM

to be fair the new coach of Chelsea deserves time at least one proper full season before we start to judge his work, and currently I feel that both team’s are equal but if I had to pick one team out of these two for proceeding to the next round then I would pick Dortmund because Jude Bellingham is playing for them.

Lastly getting Ronaldo would be a huge blunder on Chelsea’s part, because these day’s he play’s less and causes more distraction by his off field activities hence they should avoid this transfer and try for other player’s who’ll be committed to their coach/club.

Every new coach surely needs sometime for having better results and surely this is also for Graham Potter but sadly his situation is not good because he is currently down in Premier League and have no enough chances into Champions League which are not good but if he can manage then surely losing in this season is surely not going to hurt them with they can do improved performance in coming season but for this all management needs to have few favors as well because without their favor new coach can't do any positive development.

But, as we are having rumours about Ronaldo possible transfer then surely look like things are not good for them as they want to achieve something good in this season as well, and they will go with this gamble as well even they all know how things ended into Manchester United with coach which is also not good for the Ronaldo.

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I don't think that any transfer can seriously change the chances of the teams (unless of course it's Haaland + Mbappe, but they hardly want Chelsea plus they can no longer play for another club in the Champions League this season). Maybe we will see Ronaldo's move that has been talked about so much? He's not showing anything special this season, but he has a certain Champions League magic associated with him.

Don't undermine the power of transfer. It bring new challenges, new spirits, new strengths and new expectations. It must not be Haaland type of transfers but any good player with the determination to make some difference will do many wonders.
Chelsea has been having many injury problems after some of their good defenders left the club like Rudiger. Chelsea need good players from January window.

Chelsea already done good job in last summer window but sadly due to change of coach things not going into their way, so now they are struggling in Premier League badly and have average performance into Champions League with Graham Potter is surely now looking for some improvement which needs few players which can work with in his strategy hopefully now in this coming winter transfer window they will be able to have few players which help them for increasing their performance and quality for the better results which is not easy because we have few teams those are doing amazing job and now allowing opponents to have positive results, but this window is surely vital for many clubs for both type results like negative or positive no one can predict, but surely things could be entertaining for the soccer community.

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The competition days are getting closer and closer. It's a shame it's only February, but then again we have something to look forward to. The CL competition is of course currently being overshadowed by the World Cup that is currently being played. When the new year starts, the focus of teams will go back to the CL. There are a number of teams that are evenly matched, but the draw of the next round is quite decisive. And then get the draw again. The final will be played in Paris, so if PSG make it to the final it will have a huge advantage as it will be a home game. Then you first have to beat Bayern Munich, not that easy either. But Mbappe is in top form.

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I don't think that any transfer can seriously change the chances of the teams (unless of course it's Haaland + Mbappe, but they hardly want Chelsea plus they can no longer play for another club in the Champions League this season). Maybe we will see Ronaldo's move that has been talked about so much? He's not showing anything special this season, but he has a certain Champions League magic associated with him.

Bringing in players who are already registered in the Champions League with other clubs cannot help Chelsea, they can only play in the domestic league, while the Champions League must wait for next season. Ronaldo is very likely to be played in the Champions League because the club that Ronaldo defended before did not qualify for the Champions League. This situation can be used by Chelsea to increase their strength to compete in the Champions League. Ronaldo really can't do much and isn't as sharp as he used to be, but his experience and skills can help Chelsea go a step further.

I was not aware about this law of UEFA because if they have anything like this surely it's going to help Cristiano Ronaldo and Chelsea for having better result in this season and with this option most chances in January window we will be having him into Chelsea without any doubt because right now Graham Potter is looking for the player like him who give them good performance and quality so with the arrival of Ronaldo into Chelsea they can do better things.

Even too many speculations about his career and age factor but still we can expect better performance from him because he has already done good for the Manchester United, and he was top scorer in last season but sadly having not good playing time under new coach Ten Haq which create problems for the both, and now he is out of the club.

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Indeed, Chelsea performed well in the UCL. They have a chance to win like Tuchel. But with the current conditions I doubt it. I don't think current players can compete with Man City, Munich or other big clubs. In 1/16 they will play Dortmund. I don't underestimate Chelsea, but Dortmund can always surprise. Chelsea must be vigilant. Even though that game is still a long way off, there is a chance Chelsea make a big transfer maybe that could change the chances of getting to the Final.

I don't think that any transfer can seriously change the chances of the teams (unless of course it's Haaland + Mbappe, but they hardly want Chelsea plus they can no longer play for another club in the Champions League this season). Maybe we will see Ronaldo's move that has been talked about so much? He's not showing anything special this season, but he has a certain Champions League magic associated with him.

Even though Chelsea signed Ronaldo, it would not be enough to make Chelsea get better results in the Champions League. It is better for Chelsea to think about other player options that might be able to improve performance for the team and here coach Graham Potter must be tested with his observations in order to get the players that are really needed at Chelsea, otherwise they will find it difficult to adapt to other teams.

Cristiano Ronaldo joining Chelsea wouldn't be too bad. Because Chelsea are in dire need of a superstar at the moment, if Ronaldo joins, he will get more playing opportunities than Manchester United, meaning Chelsea will focus entirely on Ronaldo. Ronaldo's career at Chelsea will be more profitable than signing Ronaldo.

Who can guarantee this with the young striker options own or even being target by Chelsea? We need to look again at the contribution that Chelsea needs at this time. Can Cristiano Ronaldo cover the contribution of several less effective Chelsea front line positions, that will be a big consideration for Graham Potter to bring him to Chelsea. I'm much more sure that Chelsea will choose players with far more mature quality and stamina

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Indeed, Chelsea performed well in the UCL. They have a chance to win like Tuchel. But with the current conditions I doubt it. I don't think current players can compete with Man City, Munich or other big clubs. In 1/16 they will play Dortmund. I don't underestimate Chelsea, but Dortmund can always surprise. Chelsea must be vigilant. Even though that game is still a long way off, there is a chance Chelsea make a big transfer maybe that could change the chances of getting to the Final.

I don't think that any transfer can seriously change the chances of the teams (unless of course it's Haaland + Mbappe, but they hardly want Chelsea plus they can no longer play for another club in the Champions League this season). Maybe we will see Ronaldo's move that has been talked about so much? He's not showing anything special this season, but he has a certain Champions League magic associated with him.

Bringing in players who are already registered in the Champions League with other clubs cannot help Chelsea, they can only play in the domestic league, while the Champions League must wait for next season. Ronaldo is very likely to be played in the Champions League because the club that Ronaldo defended before did not qualify for the Champions League. This situation can be used by Chelsea to increase their strength to compete in the Champions League. Ronaldo really can't do much and isn't as sharp as he used to be, but his experience and skills can help Chelsea go a step further.

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Even though Chelsea signed Ronaldo, it would not be enough to make Chelsea get better results in the Champions League. It is better for Chelsea to think about other player options that might be able to improve performance for the team and here coach Graham Potter must be tested with his observations in order to get the players that are really needed at Chelsea, otherwise they will find it difficult to adapt to other teams.

Cristiano Ronaldo joining Chelsea wouldn't be too bad. Because Chelsea are in dire need of a superstar at the moment, if Ronaldo joins, he will get more playing opportunities than Manchester United, meaning Chelsea will focus entirely on Ronaldo. Ronaldo's career at Chelsea will be more profitable than signing Ronaldo.

I don't think Ronaldo is the answer to Chelsea's needs. even if Ronaldo will play for Chelsea, I'm not sure he will be able to boost the performance of the Blues. the only move Potter had to take was to improve the mentality of his troops and re-strategize before all Leagues were rolled out again.

Let's see, Ronaldo with his Portugal. the only goal he could create was from the penalty spot. he has entered 37 years of age, his productivity and sharpness have decreased even though his stamina is still fairly prime.

To bring Chelsea to the next round is not easy, at least Potter has to learn a lot from what Tuchel did while still coaching Chelsea. it doesn't matter if he learns from his former Chelsea coach, and works on his weaknesses. at least, the champions league schedule still has a time lag before being rolled out again.
Potter still has plenty of time, even if Chelsea fall short in the champions league. then the target of finishing in the top four of the domestic league is an obligation. otherwise, his fate will be like previous Chelsea coaches.

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