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December 05, 2022, 06:04:45 AM
Tuchel would have been the best coach for Chelsea but they missed him by  sacking him. Chelsea does not have patience  , they are always too fast to sack their coach .
You also don't need to judge Chelsea like that because the top officials at the Chelsea club also know how to make the team develop and become better in the hands of their new coach at this time. So just wait and see how the Chelsea team develops in the future because for now Chelsea has to fix everything that is needed so there is no need to judge how things are now. Due to the presence of a new coach into the squad

Chelsea coach Graham Potter is not very experienced. The most renowned club he has coached in his career is Chelsea. So it would be foolish to expect him to bring the Chelsea team to the title, or to improve Chelsea's performance very quickly. We are not sure if Graham Potter will be able to do anything good at all. So I don't have much faith in Graham Potter. Thomas Tuchal was more experienced than Potter. He could not stabilize the team this season. Chelsea need talented players now. I don't think Chelsea's performance will improve if they don't add talented players to the team.
I think Graham Potter should be given a chance. We know Thomas Tuchel is a really good manager, but how do we know if he will be successful if Potter is not given enough opportunity and time? A transfer window will pass and it is Graham Potter's primary task to identify the shortcomings in the team. He will aim to bring Chelsea to the top by bringing important names to these positions and I hope he will be successful in that.
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December 05, 2022, 05:53:11 AM
Tuchel would have been the best coach for Chelsea but they missed him by  sacking him. Chelsea does not have patience  , they are always too fast to sack their coach .
It's not chelsea but todd itself who has been sacking him from the club, the management of chelsea will not try to sack him and give him second chance. The problem is if todd was impatience owned even this become even more impatience compared with abramovich.
Abramovich can wait even longer and give the coach more chance to restructure the club. Chelsea under todd is a very bad thing for now. It's caused by todd was making intervention to the club's decision.
I hope that todd can be more patience waiting for the good result that can be given by the current coach. Potter needs more time to make the club even better compared with before. Chelsea was still in the worst performance now.
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December 04, 2022, 11:50:17 PM
Tuchel would have been the best coach for Chelsea but they missed him by  sacking him. Chelsea does not have patience  , they are always too fast to sack their coach .
You also don't need to judge Chelsea like that because the top officials at the Chelsea club also know how to make the team develop and become better in the hands of their new coach at this time. So just wait and see how the Chelsea team develops in the future because for now Chelsea has to fix everything that is needed so there is no need to judge how things are now. Due to the presence of a new coach into the squad

Chelsea coach Graham Potter is not very experienced. The most renowned club he has coached in his career is Chelsea. So it would be foolish to expect him to bring the Chelsea team to the title, or to improve Chelsea's performance very quickly. We are not sure if Graham Potter will be able to do anything good at all. So I don't have much faith in Graham Potter. Thomas Tuchal was more experienced than Potter. He could not stabilize the team this season. Chelsea need talented players now. I don't think Chelsea's performance will improve if they don't add talented players to the team.
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December 04, 2022, 10:54:14 PM
Tuchel would have been the best coach for Chelsea but they missed him by  sacking him. Chelsea does not have patience  , they are always too fast to sack their coach .
You also don't need to judge Chelsea like that because the top officials at the Chelsea club also know how to make the team develop and become better in the hands of their new coach at this time. So just wait and see how the Chelsea team develops in the future because for now Chelsea has to fix everything that is needed so there is no need to judge how things are now. Due to the presence of a new coach into the squad
What is clear is that the team and all Chelsea staff know the truth, so the decision chosen is probably the best.
Outsiders don't know the exact truth, although in my opinion and maybe others Tuchel is a good coach who in my opinion should be given one last chance, but everything has its heyday.
and it's too early for Graham Potter to build Chelsea and we can only see what happens next.
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December 04, 2022, 10:41:32 PM
Tuchel would have been the best coach for Chelsea but they missed him by  sacking him. Chelsea does not have patience  , they are always too fast to sack their coach .
You also don't need to judge Chelsea like that because the top officials at the Chelsea club also know how to make the team develop and become better in the hands of their new coach at this time. So just wait and see how the Chelsea team develops in the future because for now Chelsea has to fix everything that is needed so there is no need to judge how things are now. Due to the presence of a new coach into the squad
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December 04, 2022, 08:31:54 PM
No club wants their players injured after playing a match for their country. Because clubs spend a lot of money on players. When a player gets injured, it affects their team performance. So it is natural that clubs will not want a player to play for his country. Still it is an honor for every player to achieve something for his country. And so the players try hard to play in the country's jersey. However, players should perform carefully.
Every team will be happy if their players can be called upon to strengthen their country in the Qatar world cup. no team wants to see their players injured in this prestigious event. therefore we really want to see in this world cup that no players are injured and after the world cup ends they can return to their respective clubs in good health.
even apart from injuries, we also don't expect the star players to be affected by their mentality because among them they really want to kiss the world cup trophy but their country doesn't qualify like Belgium.
Before the champions league resumes, of course the players participating in the world cup have time to recover from physical and energy fatigue before the league restarts. I think everything will return perfectly and there is nothing to worry about.

I will be happy if no player gets badly injured in this World Cup. And can join their club very quickly. Because while the football world cup is held every 4 years, club football is played throughout the year. And we enjoy the performance of these players throughout the year.

For clubs, their players are very important. Especially big teams like Real Madrid, Manchester City, PSG and Bayern Munich spend a lot of money on each of their players. At the same time they want to win the Champions League title. So if an important player of the team suffers an injury, their performance will be adversely affected. So we want every player to come back to their club in good health and give them a chance to enjoy our outstanding gameplay.
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December 04, 2022, 06:33:35 PM
I want to ask, what do you think. which new coach is suitable for Chelsea, who was able to bring Cheslea to win the Premier League trophy as well as the Champions League in his first season as a coach, with the players available, plus several injuries, and others underperformed.

I think the answer is simple for this. The right manager for Chelsea has always been Thomas Tuchel. Just because of not meeting some criteria of the board Tuchel was sacked. It wasn't for only the bad start to the season in fact. You can't expect any manager to be too consistent every time in the end. Tuchel achieved great successes with Chelsea as you said. He had a bad start in this one maybe but he could have made things right for the team if he was given a little more time. The fans must also be unhappy about this change now.

Tuchel's situation was similar to Klopp. Klopp is also facing bad times with Liverpool in the league this season despite playing solidly in the Champions League. But Liverpool board must be trusting him fully for the sake of his great achievements with the team so far.
Tuchel would have been the best coach for Chelsea but they missed him by  sacking him. Chelsea does not have patience  , they are always too fast to sack their coach .
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December 04, 2022, 06:28:58 PM
Currently team having by Graham Potter with Brighton Albion I don't sure he can success with Chelsea without any experienced yet with big top team and not get trophy in his career. What have been worry is coming true right now with Chelsea can't win in last five matches and have beaten last three matches in a row at Primer League. I think Chelsea management have give huge pressure for Graham Potter if want long term existing at Chelsea actually Champion League trophy become realistic chance.

Can we just give the manager time, he won his last 5 games before the recent bad run and in those first games he won, it saw use progress from the group stages of the champions league and got clean sheets in the premier league, match after matches. We're working with a new manager so things mightn't just go smoothly as we played. It's a working progress as the manager is constantly monitoring the players to see who best fit his style of play. The manager never had a preseason to train with his squad and let's not jump to judging him. We the fans want to give him time because we believe in the Chelsea spirit.

Chelsea are known for giving coaches their first major breakthrough so if it also happened to Graham Potter I won't be surprised. Before Sarri came to Chelsea, he has never won any major trophy irrespective of managing big clubs, Chelsea gave him his first trophy and made him a search after coach. Graham Potter will definitely win cups with Chelsea it mightn't be this season but this is definitely going to be the building blocks as he'll be using this season to observe his players but still give us something we can hold onto as he gets his own players next season.
I would suggest they give the manager more time to assess the team's performances and work towards improving the squad. I know everyone expects that things will change immediately and consistency will be achieved too but let's be realistic, this results barely come immediately, it takes phases and time to happen so I will urge the club to be a little more patient with the new manager.


I don't understand and I don't always agree when Chelsea fans begin to criticize Graham Potter for doing badly in Chelsea. When they begin to criticize him I will now ask how well was Chelsea doing this season before they employ Graham Potter  It is obvious that Chelsea was nothing to write home about this season undere Thomas that was why Graham Porter assistance was needed.
They have first forgotten that the coach did not train with the club that means there was no preseason with the club if not the death of Elizabeth that gave him little time to train with a club
If you want the best for Chelsea and Graham Porter we should be able to give him time to adapt to his new club

Sacking Thomas Tuchel by the club and employing Graham Potter was for a reason and I believe if the reason for employing a new coach which I believe is to restore balance in the squad and drive the team to maintaining consistency and winning games so I wouldn't blame the fans if they begin to panic and ask questions or doubt Potter's capabilities because he was employed to improve the team and win games so if he is not doing so then it surely will raise doubts.
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December 04, 2022, 04:36:25 PM
I want to ask, what do you think. which new coach is suitable for Chelsea, who was able to bring Cheslea to win the Premier League trophy as well as the Champions League in his first season as a coach, with the players available, plus several injuries, and others underperformed.

I think the answer is simple for this. The right manager for Chelsea has always been Thomas Tuchel. Just because of not meeting some criteria of the board Tuchel was sacked. It wasn't for only the bad start to the season in fact. You can't expect any manager to be too consistent every time in the end. Tuchel achieved great successes with Chelsea as you said. He had a bad start in this one maybe but he could have made things right for the team if he was given a little more time. The fans must also be unhappy about this change now.

Tuchel's situation was similar to Klopp. Klopp is also facing bad times with Liverpool in the league this season despite playing solidly in the Champions League. But Liverpool board must be trusting him fully for the sake of his great achievements with the team so far.
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December 04, 2022, 04:25:22 PM
I want to ask, what do you think. which new coach is suitable for Chelsea, who was able to bring Cheslea to win the Premier League trophy as well as the Champions League in his first season as a coach, with the players available, plus several injuries, and others underperformed.
note : Potter comes with available players, he cannot add new players. this is a heavy responsibility, maybe that's why Zidane was not interested in becoming the new Chelsea manager after being left by Thomas Tuchel due to the heavy demands of the big Chelsea boss.

So far, Potter is trying to maximize his troops. although the experiment did not go according to plan. however, at least after this world cup break. he can have time to find the right formula for his army later before all Leagues are rolled out again.
note: when Thomas Tuchel was in his first season, Chelsea was in excellent form. he didn't face any serious obstacles, he just needed the implementation of a good strategy, so he was successful in his first season with Chelsea.

Chelsea still has hopes and opportunities in the Domestic League, at least in the top four standings until the end of this season. for the Champions League, at least Chelsea has more chance than Dortmund. the rest, let time answer it.
I would guess that Potter is not the guy, but also nobody brought Chelsea a premier league title so far, it has been years since they won the title, many years, they just won UCL and that is also an amazing thing, between merch sales, the ticket sales, the income from all the way going to finals alone itself, then winning, these were all a lot of money and maybe they are not even spending too much of owners money but what they have in the treasury, and of course some of owners.

I have to say Potter is not a big name manager, so he is not going to be easily doing great, because it's hard to go up a level like that and find success right away.
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December 04, 2022, 02:00:52 PM
Chelsea are known for giving coaches their first major breakthrough so if it also happened to Graham Potter I won't be surprised. Before Sarri came to Chelsea, he has never won any major trophy irrespective of managing big clubs, Chelsea gave him his first trophy and made him a search after coach. Graham Potter will definitely win cups with Chelsea it mightn't be this season but this is definitely going to be the building blocks as he'll be using this season to observe his players but still give us something we can hold onto as he gets his own players next season.

Maybe you are right. Giving Graham Potter a chance to work independently could solve all of Chelsea's problems. But we cannot say for sure. The whole situation of the Chelsea team is unstable now. They are not able to perform well as a team. So it is likely that Graham Potter will make some changes to their squad next season. But first he should fix his match strategy. Consistently good performance is impossible without a proper match strategy.
He must first build this Chelsea from scratch, even from the line-up. Because if you look at it now, they can't be said to be much better than Thomas Tuchel's coaching period. Graham Potter will be given a chance, but will he be able to answer the chance Chelsea is given or not. Because Chelsea fans will definitely put a lot of pressure on when they see their favorite team in a bad condition.


Apart from that, during the the Group stage Chelsea still looks quite consistent in the Champions League. However, neither Milan nor Leipzig is still not strong enoughto test Chelsea's consistency this season under new coach Graham Potter.
The round of 16 of the Champions League will bring together the sixteen best teams from various leagues, we see Graham Potter's seriousness in handling Chelsea here
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December 04, 2022, 01:54:00 PM
Manchester City has had a great draw with RB Leipzig now. Then Bayern Munich and PSG have a difficult draw against each other. It was also sensational that Benfice finished first in the group, and who would believe that they managed to win by so many goals? Presumably the next round will be the final station for Benfica. And what can we expect from Liverpool - Real Madrid? Last season's final was pretty boring, and Liverpool just couldn't get into their game. Madrid actually won this game quite easily, having been knocked out for 99% 3 games in a row before. Benzema then saved the title.
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December 04, 2022, 01:42:29 PM
Potter is never the best for Chelsea.When the news came that Chelsea's management have changed their coach,I was shocked because we are talking about Tuchel that has taking the UEFA champions league for Chelsea,and knows the best for Chelsea FC,they brought in a coach that cannot coach a big team well.
I so much believe that Chelsea's board will ever regret sacking Tuchel,because he remains one of the best coaches that Chelsea has ever had.
The new coach has not been at Chelsea long and trains the players as they are at Chelsea, so it is too early to judge whether a coach is good or bad because each coach needs time to prove his ability to train the team to be better. There is no coach who enters the team today, then immediately wins the next day. Coaching is a process to win a championship and it definitely takes a lot of time, so what you rate today for Chelsea, in my opinion, is still inadequate because Chelsea has not replaced a coach for a long time.
I agree that a coach needs time to really understand the team he is holding. However, what Graham Potter showed was a decline. We can see that in the first 3 matches he coached Chelsea, he made a good start. But the longer it takes a series of negative results that he always gets. It was a problem he needed to solve as soon as possible. Chelsea doesn't have much time to stay in this situation as the league goes on. Luckily they were able to reconstruct their strategy in light of this international break.

Whenever we say the case of Graham Potter and Chelsea we should do it with all amount of consideration. This is because Graham Poter has not actually gotten enough time to change the situation of Chelsea, if you look at the case many players are even injured and all of them has not been available to give Potter the selecting options.
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December 04, 2022, 01:25:38 PM
Potter is never the best for Chelsea.When the news came that Chelsea's management have changed their coach,I was shocked because we are talking about Tuchel that has taking the UEFA champions league for Chelsea,and knows the best for Chelsea FC,they brought in a coach that cannot coach a big team well.
I so much believe that Chelsea's board will ever regret sacking Tuchel,because he remains one of the best coaches that Chelsea has ever had.
The new coach has not been at Chelsea long and trains the players as they are at Chelsea, so it is too early to judge whether a coach is good or bad because each coach needs time to prove his ability to train the team to be better. There is no coach who enters the team today, then immediately wins the next day. Coaching is a process to win a championship and it definitely takes a lot of time, so what you rate today for Chelsea, in my opinion, is still inadequate because Chelsea has not replaced a coach for a long time.
I agree that a coach needs time to really understand the team he is holding. However, what Graham Potter showed was a decline. We can see that in the first 3 matches he coached Chelsea, he made a good start. But the longer it takes a series of negative results that he always gets. It was a problem he needed to solve as soon as possible. Chelsea doesn't have much time to stay in this situation as the league goes on. Luckily they were able to reconstruct their strategy in light of this international break.
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December 04, 2022, 11:51:07 AM
Potter is never the best for Chelsea.When the news came that Chelsea's management have changed their coach,I was shocked because we are talking about Tuchel that has taking the UEFA champions league for Chelsea,and knows the best for Chelsea FC,they brought in a coach that cannot coach a big team well.
I so much believe that Chelsea's board will ever regret sacking Tuchel,because he remains one of the best coaches that Chelsea has ever had.
The new coach has not been at Chelsea long and trains the players as they are at Chelsea, so it is too early to judge whether a coach is good or bad because each coach needs time to prove his ability to train the team to be better. There is no coach who enters the team today, then immediately wins the next day. Coaching is a process to win a championship and it definitely takes a lot of time, so what you rate today for Chelsea, in my opinion, is still inadequate because Chelsea has not replaced a coach for a long time.
you are right that it is impossible for a new coach to give his best in a short time and I think Potter needs time to train Chelsea, adjust and even arrange a good formation strategy to make Chelsea better than before

as we know Chelsea has paid a heavy price for Graham Potter to become Chelsea coach replacing Thomas Tuchel so I think only by giving him time there will definitely be the best results he will show to all Chelsea supporters
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December 04, 2022, 11:43:08 AM
I think, whoever replaces Tuchel, it is basically difficult to compare with the achievement that Tuchel has given Chelsea by winning the Champions League so quickly at that time.
Even if, for example, Todd Boehly recruits a coach who has experience coaching big teams, still, he enters or becomes a new coach when the club situation is not in a good situation. Thus, it will still be difficult for the new coach to be able to provide an extraordinary increase in performance quickly, because success in coaching the previous team still does not guarantee Graham Potter a quick success at Chelsea.

So yeah, basically it's not about choosing the wrong coach to replace Tuchel. But due to what seems to be a mistake, Todd Boehly fired Tuchel like there was something between them, until internal problems between them resulted in the dismissal unilaterally.
Therefore, now Chelsea seems to be experiencing the impact and even Chelsea seems to no longer have a chance to be able to return to the top four in the Premiere League standings.

But at least Chelsea are still a bit lucky because they still have a chance to qualify for the quarter-finals, because in the round of 16 Chelsea will play against Dortmund, which is basically Dortmund, which is also experiencing a decline this season.
So yeah, let's see how far Graham Potter will produce good results for Chelsea, because this is also a form of Todd Boehly's way of building a team.

I heard an interesting version that one of the reasons Tuchel was fired was that he divorced his wife and started a relationship with a girl who is much younger than him. Thus, he lost the respect of the team and the confidence of the players that Tuchel focused on football. Naturally, this was not the only reason, there is always a complex of different reasons, but at a certain moment this also played a role and shifted the scales towards dismissal.
Being the subject of gossip in dressing room, reportedly a lot more tempting xD but which I know another reason is business that doesn't conformable with Boehly. Chelsea, currently have better players, can look more capable of being a big team threat but the last few games before the break, they performed very badly even against Brighton. Is it possible Potter will be able to make Chelsea successful at least in the top 4 positions?
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December 04, 2022, 10:13:16 AM
I think, whoever replaces Tuchel, it is basically difficult to compare with the achievement that Tuchel has given Chelsea by winning the Champions League so quickly at that time.
Even if, for example, Todd Boehly recruits a coach who has experience coaching big teams, still, he enters or becomes a new coach when the club situation is not in a good situation. Thus, it will still be difficult for the new coach to be able to provide an extraordinary increase in performance quickly, because success in coaching the previous team still does not guarantee Graham Potter a quick success at Chelsea.

So yeah, basically it's not about choosing the wrong coach to replace Tuchel. But due to what seems to be a mistake, Todd Boehly fired Tuchel like there was something between them, until internal problems between them resulted in the dismissal unilaterally.
Therefore, now Chelsea seems to be experiencing the impact and even Chelsea seems to no longer have a chance to be able to return to the top four in the Premiere League standings.

But at least Chelsea are still a bit lucky because they still have a chance to qualify for the quarter-finals, because in the round of 16 Chelsea will play against Dortmund, which is basically Dortmund, which is also experiencing a decline this season.
So yeah, let's see how far Graham Potter will produce good results for Chelsea, because this is also a form of Todd Boehly's way of building a team.

I heard an interesting version that one of the reasons Tuchel was fired was that he divorced his wife and started a relationship with a girl who is much younger than him. Thus, he lost the respect of the team and the confidence of the players that Tuchel focused on football. Naturally, this was not the only reason, there is always a complex of different reasons, but at a certain moment this also played a role and shifted the scales towards dismissal.
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December 04, 2022, 08:57:10 AM
Currently team having by Graham Potter with Brighton Albion I don't sure he can success with Chelsea without any experienced yet with big top team and not get trophy in his career. What have been worry is coming true right now with Chelsea can't win in last five matches and have beaten last three matches in a row at Primer League. I think Chelsea management have give huge pressure for Graham Potter if want long term existing at Chelsea actually Champion League trophy become realistic chance.

Can we just give the manager time, he won his last 5 games before the recent bad run and in those first games he won, it saw use progress from the group stages of the champions league and got clean sheets in the premier league, match after matches. We're working with a new manager so things mightn't just go smoothly as we played. It's a working progress as the manager is constantly monitoring the players to see who best fit his style of play. The manager never had a preseason to train with his squad and let's not jump to judging him. We the fans want to give him time because we believe in the Chelsea spirit.

Chelsea are known for giving coaches their first major breakthrough so if it also happened to Graham Potter I won't be surprised. Before Sarri came to Chelsea, he has never won any major trophy irrespective of managing big clubs, Chelsea gave him his first trophy and made him a search after coach. Graham Potter will definitely win cups with Chelsea it mightn't be this season but this is definitely going to be the building blocks as he'll be using this season to observe his players but still give us something we can hold onto as he gets his own players next season.

He should be given enough time yes lol
It is better they Indentify the errors in what he does and kind of players he uses
He may likely end like Sarri that job is too big for him he is best with a small job
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December 04, 2022, 08:52:28 AM
Potter is never the best for Chelsea.When the news came that Chelsea's management have changed their coach,I was shocked because we are talking about Tuchel that has taking the UEFA champions league for Chelsea,and knows the best for Chelsea FC,they brought in a coach that cannot coach a big team well.
I so much believe that Chelsea's board will ever regret sacking Tuchel,because he remains one of the best coaches that Chelsea has ever had.
The new coach has not been at Chelsea long and trains the players as they are at Chelsea, so it is too early to judge whether a coach is good or bad because each coach needs time to prove his ability to train the team to be better. There is no coach who enters the team today, then immediately wins the next day. Coaching is a process to win a championship and it definitely takes a lot of time, so what you rate today for Chelsea, in my opinion, is still inadequate because Chelsea has not replaced a coach for a long time.
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December 04, 2022, 08:07:57 AM
Sincerely I also think so that bringing in Graham Potter was not such a good idea after all. They would have been more patient with Thomas Tuchel and supported him to get the team back on track but they opted to go for Potter who showed promising signs at the beginning of his take over and slowly declined and the team are back to losing games again. We shall see how things turn out when the league resumes.
Currently team having by Graham Potter with Brighton Albion I don't sure he can success with Chelsea without any experienced yet with big top team and not get trophy in his career. What have been worry is coming true right now with Chelsea can't win in last five matches and have beaten last three matches in a row at Primer League. I think Chelsea management have give huge pressure for Graham Potter if want long term existing at Chelsea actually Champion League trophy become realistic chance.

Its looks domestic league bit difficult reach to top standing after remaining many points with Arsenal, but Chelsea still have opportunity to win Champion League and learned more what the best achievement from current Chelsea manager Tuchel success in the first season with Chelsea become the winner in Champion League.

I want to ask, what do you think. which new coach is suitable for Chelsea, who was able to bring Cheslea to win the Premier League trophy as well as the Champions League in his first season as a coach, with the players available, plus several injuries, and others underperformed.
note : Potter comes with available players, he cannot add new players. this is a heavy responsibility, maybe that's why Zidane was not interested in becoming the new Chelsea manager after being left by Thomas Tuchel due to the heavy demands of the big Chelsea boss.

So far, Potter is trying to maximize his troops. although the experiment did not go according to plan. however, at least after this world cup break. he can have time to find the right formula for his army later before all Leagues are rolled out again.
note: when Thomas Tuchel was in his first season, Chelsea was in excellent form. he didn't face any serious obstacles, he just needed the implementation of a good strategy, so he was successful in his first season with Chelsea.

Chelsea still has hopes and opportunities in the Domestic League, at least in the top four standings until the end of this season. for the Champions League, at least Chelsea has more chance than Dortmund. the rest, let time answer it.
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