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October 29, 2022, 01:33:30 AM
I will not say that the Barcelona team is not strong. Barcelona's team is strong enough. They have a lot of talented players in their squad. But the problem is that it is very difficult to make predictions about Barcelona's performance. Because there is no consistency in their performance. Barcelona does not perform well against big teams. Barcelona has several weaknesses. It is a shame that a renowned team like Barcelona will be eliminated from the Champions League in the first round. Xavi will definitely want to perform well in the Europa League and La Liga. I think if Barcelona's defence is strong they will be able to win the La Liga title.
Right now, Barcelona is under development, and they are doing good work in La Liga, but sadly they badly fail in Champions League with mostly fans saying in this season Xavi's main focus is La Liga so just because of this they are unable to have positive results in Champions League, but they can improve performance in coming season, and we can expect better results from them but in this season most chances they are looking for champions of Spain with La Liga title even this is not easy because right now Real Madrid is having three points lead and their performance is also solid which is surely big positive point for them and Barcelona has to done amazing job if they want to win any title in coming days.
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October 29, 2022, 12:52:19 AM
There are many big teams joining the Europa League from the group stage of the Champions League this time. I wonder how many of them will care about that tournament and try to win the title.
They should have squandered another chance in the Europa League or they would have received even more boos if they failed only in the early games. Especially clubs like Barcelona, Juventus, and several other big teams that failed in the UCL. In fact, in the European League itself, there are also Arsenal, Man United, Real Betis, Lazio, and other big teams that are currently on fire. This will be more interesting, won't it?

True, Europa League will be more interesting to watch when there are some big names such as the ones you mention above. Juventus is still questionable whether they will be able to go to Europa League or not after failed in the group stage of UCL. Their point is the same as Maccabi while Juventus have to face PSG in the last match. Anyway, even though Europa League is not as popular as UCL, I believe these big teams will try their best to catch the trophy. A trophy is still a trophy, catching it is better then nothing.
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October 28, 2022, 10:11:56 PM
Actually expecting something like that is not too wrong because Lewa is a targetman and Lewa can actually still be hopeful but the problem is that the supply given to Lewa in the last few matches is not very good which makes Lewa unable to play like she should.
As far as I know, Lewandowski is the target man in the Barcelona striker and I admit that. But I also think in the last few games especially against Inter and Bayern, Lewandowski was really struggling to find the ball because the opposing defense cut off the flow of the ball for him. This means that Barcelona's strategy in 4 matches is really easy to read by opponents, especially Bayern Munich.
Xavi's scheme was really readable in this match and they focused more on the defense which was constantly under attack which made it very difficult for Lewandowski to find space and find rhythm as Barcelona's midfield had been dominated by Bayern and Inter in their matches.
Barcelona's strategy can be predicted easily. The play style is always the same. We have seen so many ball possession owned by barcelona but it doesn't have effective strategy. Barcelona looks like only playing the ball at the middle of field. The team that can counter this was a team with balanced players on it just like bayern. Bayern's defensive players are so good and then once barcelona was attacking bayern and it's not all of bayern's attackers will be helping to defend. Some of them will stay waiting for the long pass and then make a counter attack.
I don't know why any barcelona coach is always using the same strategy. The strategy can be predicted easily by another coach.
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October 28, 2022, 07:41:27 PM
There are many big teams joining the Europa League from the group stage of the Champions League this time. I wonder how many of them will care about that tournament and try to win the title.
They should have squandered another chance in the Europa League or they would have received even more boos if they failed only in the early games. Especially clubs like Barcelona, Juventus, and several other big teams that failed in the UCL. In fact, in the European League itself, there are also Arsenal, Man United, Real Betis, Lazio, and other big teams that are currently on fire. This will be more interesting, won't it?

Milan's condition is also not very good now. They still aren't comfortable about moving on to the next round.
The match between Milan and Salzburg will be a decisive match for both. If the draw is, Milan will qualify for the next qualifying round. But if they lose, it will be over. But, Milan should be able to hold and win over Salzburg. On the other hand, in Chelsea vs Dinamo Zagreb, Chelsea has a higher chance of winning. So there will be no problem with this one club.
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October 28, 2022, 07:27:19 PM
There are many big teams joining the Europa League from the group stage of the Champions League this time. I wonder how many of them will care about that tournament and try to win the title.

Milan's condition is also not very good now. They still aren't comfortable about moving on to the next round. However the last game is in favour of them actually. Even if they get one point it will be enough for them to qualify for the next round successfully. It is a home game against Salzburg. So far Salzburg have seemed a challenging opponent for Milan and Chelsea both. Milan drew with them by 1-1 before. But I believe that it is time for Milan to defeat them by a satisfying performance.
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October 28, 2022, 07:18:52 PM
Clubs with huge spending on player transfers are in fact now just decorations in the Europa League and of course this is a bit beyond expectations and makes the fans very disappointed.
It's hard to see a significant difference in the plot for them in this case because they are actually quite good at the beginning but there are several phases that make them seem the opposite of what is expected. but all that they have to accept now and don't let them fall out of the Europa League again like last season.

It was a huge disappointment for Barcelona to drop out of the Champions league after their massive spending this season. Everyone thought that with the quality of players they currently have, lifting the Champions league would have been possible. This is a clear proof that big spenders are not always the big winners.

Actually expecting something like that is not too wrong because Lewa is a targetman and Lewa can actually still be hopeful but the problem is that the supply given to Lewa in the last few matches is not very good which makes Lewa unable to play like she should.
With this condition there will actually be worries for Xavi but seeing the condition of Barcelona it will only stay like that because if they change the coach again it will be very difficult for their financial condition.

This will always be the problem of teams that rely on a player to get the needed results. In the case of Barcelona, opponents have began to understand that if the stop the flow of the ball to Robert Lewandowski, the team would become powerless in the attack. So the teams would device ways to block the aerial passes from the wings and chock-up the midfield to ensure that he doesn't get the ball. And Lewandowski don't have the strength to get ball from the midfield or run through the flanks because of his age. That is why Chelsea would always be an unpredictable team because even defenders a potential goalscorers.   

 
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October 28, 2022, 07:00:06 PM

Well, the truth is that this is something that I always said, if Barcelona failed in the UCL, things were going to go downhill, this is something that little by little is happening to them, it's a shame,
Exactly, It's not only a shame but also a real disaster for Barcelona. This club might be considered one of the giant clubs that will be a hard competitor for the UCL this season, moreover with Lewandowski's arrival. But in fact, this may be unexpected, moreover by Barcelona itself. I can't imagine what will happen to their club starting now because not qualified in the UCL 16 round.
Clubs with huge spending on player transfers are in fact now just decorations in the Europa League and of course this is a bit beyond expectations and makes the fans very disappointed.
It's hard to see a significant difference in the plot for them in this case because they are actually quite good at the beginning but there are several phases that make them seem the opposite of what is expected. but all that they have to accept now and don't let them fall out of the Europa League again like last season.
True.

Manchester united will meet barcelona again ... they used to meet at the top level UCL but thesedays it seems they adapting to get used meet in Europa League the second class of european competition , what a shame for both , bad seasons and counting ..
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October 28, 2022, 06:47:44 PM
As far as I know, Lewandowski is the target man in the Barcelona striker and I admit that. But I also think in the last few games especially against Inter and Bayern, Lewandowski was really struggling to find the ball because the opposing defense cut off the flow of the ball for him. This means that Barcelona's strategy in 4 matches is really easy to read by opponents, especially Bayern Munich.
Once Lewandowski is difficult to get the ball and rarely has good chances to score, the problem is on the midfielders.
Xavi always changes the players on the midfield line, he seems still trying to find the best players to put on the midfield line. In my opinion, Kessie and Frenkie de Jong should be the key players in the midfield line. These players must play regularly.

When they played against Bayern Munich, we can clearly see that Bayern Munich midfielders are much better. Bayern midfielders can give passes more accurately, they also can make more shot attempts. Creating more passes and shot attempts are the responsibility of the midfielders. Xavi must improve Barcelona midfield line. To improve it, I expect Xavi to consider Frenkie and Kessie as the main players in that position.


I don't know why xavi does not give much play time for kessie, he showed excelent performance with milan and he is even good at feeding his teamates with good balls i think the main Reason they lost against bayern is the use of some players in positions different than their originals, maybe xavi tried something new because they already were eliminated but still playing with kounde and marcos alonso as central defenders is not something you wanna do against a strong team like bayern, barcelona team need major changes a lot of players need to go in my opinion some are not worthy of playing in barcelona.
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October 28, 2022, 05:58:28 PM
As far as I know, Lewandowski is the target man in the Barcelona striker and I admit that. But I also think in the last few games especially against Inter and Bayern, Lewandowski was really struggling to find the ball because the opposing defense cut off the flow of the ball for him. This means that Barcelona's strategy in 4 matches is really easy to read by opponents, especially Bayern Munich.
Once Lewandowski is difficult to get the ball and rarely has good chances to score, the problem is on the midfielders.
Xavi always changes the players on the midfield line, he seems still trying to find the best players to put on the midfield line. In my opinion, Kessie and Frenkie de Jong should be the key players in the midfield line. These players must play regularly.

When they played against Bayern Munich, we can clearly see that Bayern Munich midfielders are much better. Bayern midfielders can give passes more accurately, they also can make more shot attempts. Creating more passes and shot attempts are the responsibility of the midfielders. Xavi must improve Barcelona midfield line. To improve it, I expect Xavi to consider Frenkie and Kessie as the main players in that position.

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October 28, 2022, 05:55:40 PM
Actually expecting something like that is not too wrong because Lewa is a targetman and Lewa can actually still be hopeful but the problem is that the supply given to Lewa in the last few matches is not very good which makes Lewa unable to play like she should.
As far as I know, Lewandowski is the target man in the Barcelona striker and I admit that. But I also think in the last few games especially against Inter and Bayern, Lewandowski was really struggling to find the ball because the opposing defense cut off the flow of the ball for him. This means that Barcelona's strategy in 4 matches is really easy to read by opponents, especially Bayern Munich.
Xavi's scheme was really readable in this match and they focused more on the defense which was constantly under attack which made it very difficult for Lewandowski to find space and find rhythm as Barcelona's midfield had been dominated by Bayern and Inter in their matches.
With this condition there will actually be worries for Xavi but seeing the condition of Barcelona it will only stay like that because if they change the coach again it will be very difficult for their financial condition.
Of course it will be difficult, but there are only two good choices and that is to give him full support or find a replacement.
Finding a replacement at this time is difficult, so like it or not, full support must be done because regardless of their financial condition, which is now under threat, especially with the issue of player salaries, it is quite difficult to compensate Xavi while looking for a new coach.
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October 28, 2022, 05:52:04 PM

Well, the truth is that this is something that I always said, if Barcelona failed in the UCL, things were going to go downhill, this is something that little by little is happening to them, it's a shame,
Exactly, It's not only a shame but also a real disaster for Barcelona. This club might be considered one of the giant clubs that will be a hard competitor for the UCL this season, moreover with Lewandowski's arrival. But in fact, this may be unexpected, moreover by Barcelona itself. I can't imagine what will happen to their club starting now because not qualified in the UCL 16 round.
Clubs with huge spending on player transfers are in fact now just decorations in the Europa League and of course this is a bit beyond expectations and makes the fans very disappointed.
It's hard to see a significant difference in the plot for them in this case because they are actually quite good at the beginning but there are several phases that make them seem the opposite of what is expected. but all that they have to accept now and don't let them fall out of the Europa League again like last season.
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October 28, 2022, 05:40:47 PM

Well, the truth is that this is something that I always said, if Barcelona failed in the UCL, things were going to go downhill, this is something that little by little is happening to them, it's a shame,
Exactly, It's not only a shame but also a real disaster for Barcelona. This club might be considered one of the giant clubs that will be a hard competitor for the UCL this season, moreover with Lewandowski's arrival. But in fact, this may be unexpected, moreover by Barcelona itself. I can't imagine what will happen to their club starting now because not qualified in the UCL 16 round.

I feel sorry for Lewa because he is a player that if it's worth it, but that happens when they go to a club that doesn't support them, it's almost the same thing that happened to CR7, if CR7 had stayed at Juve everyone would be fine.
Oh, so sad to know the fact, moreover about CR7 which is very hard for him this time. Maybe it will be better and really different if he chose Man City at that time, not Man United. But, this is happening and ongoing. Both should face what they have taken decision.
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October 28, 2022, 05:30:06 PM
Actually expecting something like that is not too wrong because Lewa is a targetman and Lewa can actually still be hopeful but the problem is that the supply given to Lewa in the last few matches is not very good which makes Lewa unable to play like she should.
As far as I know, Lewandowski is the target man in the Barcelona striker and I admit that. But I also think in the last few games especially against Inter and Bayern, Lewandowski was really struggling to find the ball because the opposing defense cut off the flow of the ball for him. This means that Barcelona's strategy in 4 matches is really easy to read by opponents, especially Bayern Munich.

With this condition there will actually be worries for Xavi but seeing the condition of Barcelona it will only stay like that because if they change the coach again it will be very difficult for their financial condition.
Of course it will be difficult, but there are only two good choices and that is to give him full support or find a replacement.
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October 28, 2022, 05:23:48 PM
I will not say that the Barcelona team is not strong. Barcelona's team is strong enough. They have a lot of talented players in their squad. But the problem is that it is very difficult to make predictions about Barcelona's performance. Because there is no consistency in their performance. Barcelona does not perform well against big teams. Barcelona has several weaknesses. It is a shame that a renowned team like Barcelona will be eliminated from the Champions League in the first round. Xavi will definitely want to perform well in the Europa League and La Liga. I think if Barcelona's defence is strong they will be able to win the La Liga title.
The main problem I identify with Barcelona in the Champions League is that they rely heavily on Lewandowski for make goal, secondly they don't have good options for defenders when their main players are injured. Nobody thought they would fail in the early stages (group stage), but that's how it is.

I suspect Xavi is really worried about his future now especially if Barcelona also fail in the Europa League, Laliga or Copa del Rey. If Xavi fails for all those titles, then I don't know why Laporta wants to keep him longer. I admit he is great, but the team needs to win and the title.
Actually expecting something like that is not too wrong because Lewa is a targetman and Lewa can actually still be hopeful but the problem is that the supply given to Lewa in the last few matches is not very good which makes Lewa unable to play like she should.
With this condition there will actually be worries for Xavi but seeing the condition of Barcelona it will only stay like that because if they change the coach again it will be very difficult for their financial condition.
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October 28, 2022, 04:28:09 PM
if i may not believe it because i know both of them are great and strong team, i believe one of them will go to the final of champions league champion this season, at least meet Manchester city or PSG between the two are also quite strong and play well during the champions league
It was the same last season, but both failed last season because a lot of unexpected things happened and everyone who doesn't count Real Madrid in terms of the Champions League, I think it's a mistake. Because last season Real Madrid were almost defeated by several teams, but in the end they managed to become champions, right? It's about the calculation of a strong team that has the potential to win, because I'm also not saying Manchester city or PSG are weak teams, because they have both shown how strong they are this season.
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October 28, 2022, 04:24:38 PM
I will not say that the Barcelona team is not strong. Barcelona's team is strong enough. They have a lot of talented players in their squad. But the problem is that it is very difficult to make predictions about Barcelona's performance. Because there is no consistency in their performance. Barcelona does not perform well against big teams. Barcelona has several weaknesses. It is a shame that a renowned team like Barcelona will be eliminated from the Champions League in the first round. Xavi will definitely want to perform well in the Europa League and La Liga. I think if Barcelona's defence is strong they will be able to win the La Liga title.
The main problem I identify with Barcelona in the Champions League is that they rely heavily on Lewandowski for make goal, secondly they don't have good options for defenders when their main players are injured. Nobody thought they would fail in the early stages (group stage), but that's how it is.

I suspect Xavi is really worried about his future now especially if Barcelona also fail in the Europa League, Laliga or Copa del Rey. If Xavi fails for all those titles, then I don't know why Laporta wants to keep him longer. I admit he is great, but the team needs to win and the title.
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October 28, 2022, 04:24:32 PM
There is still one game left for all clubs, PSG will 100% finish at the top, meaning they will face a second of another group, and looking at the seconds of the groups, unless they face Liverpool they won't have any type of trouble. And even if they face them, Liverpool is not really doing great this season so they may beat them easily too.
It's always those under looked second placed teams to kick out the so-called favorites. Last season was an exception because Real Madrid did the job themselves, being the record UCL champions. But, even then the biased media kept treating them as underdogs until final whistle of the competition.



If Barcelona want to do well in the Champions League, they need more quality players in their squad. Because to reach the Champions League with the current players is absolutely extraordinary. It is important to add some new midfielders and defense in their team. The exit from the Champions League led to some financial problems
Not just quality players, there is also need for team spirit and winning mentality among them. Look at PSG and Manchester City. They have had quality players for years now, and yet they always fell short in Champion's League.
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October 28, 2022, 04:22:58 PM
So many great clubs participating. We should expect the best from every participating club, watching all will give the best fun of the round of 16. Advancing to the final stage will not just be gratified by how good the clubs are but how well they will be able to utilise what they have.
We already know some clubs have made it to the last 16 but some are still fighting to qualify because there is one more game in the group stage.
They will certainly start the struggle again in the last 16 by utilizing the home and away playing system from whoever the club is, of course, they will take advantage of what they have, including great players, the strategy is run smoothly, and there is a coach who can bring the club even further so that's it all a pleasure for football lovers, especially those who are fans of each club.
The last 16 will be moving again for all the teams that qualify.
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October 28, 2022, 04:15:46 PM
I don't agree with you. The Champions League is very competitive. Manchester City and PSG are favorites to win the Champions League title every season. They have a strong squad. Though Manchester City and PSG have yet to win the Champions League. Both the teams have strong squads this season as well. But there is no way to say for sure that they will win the title.

Bayern Munich and Real Madrid have relatively stable squads. And they have been able to continue to perform consistently well. And so it is not possible to predict right now whether PSG or Manchester City will win the title. To me, City, PSG, Munich and Madrid all have the same talent to win the title.
Manchester City and PSG are favorite team to win Champion League title almost every season with complicated player composition have, but unpredictable with Real Madrid won UCL trophy last season, I doubted with several predicting and favorite Manchester City or PSG depend both team never won any Champion League trophy yet. Have competent squad is most important but another important is the mentality  winning needed by PSG or Manchester City if want to win Champion League tittle.

I have predicting about the Champion League winner in this season most close to choose between Bayern Munich or Real Madrid, probably with Bayern Munich have 100% ration winning at group stage and success won 5 of 5 games, left one match against Inter Milan to make perfect achievement points at group stage.
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October 28, 2022, 04:01:37 PM
You would actually think that it is impossible for a team other than PSG or Manchester City to win the Champions League. However, we also have a draw, if it goes against you can get all the favorites in a row. Real Madrid had a really tough draw last year, so it was all the better that they managed to win the cup. They play well, have good players but against PSG or Manchester City in form it will be a very difficult story. I'm curious what the bookmakers think of Liverpool's chances, if they get their form back then they have a chance against everyone. If Liverpool play out of form against PSG it will be a hard punishment.
I haven't seen any improvement made by Liverpool, I mean a significant improvement. But it's not impossible Liverpool can do it in this Champions League.
Manchester City have a solid team at the moment which adds to their confidence and will increase. But in the group stage there is no team that is really a balanced opponent for them, I still need to see how far they come when faced with a team that is balanced in strength.


Liverpool needs consisetency in all tournaments and not to be just hot and cold in all tournaments. Man City is the main favorite for me to win the champions league next to Bayern Munich and PSG. Kloop needs to fix all segements as soon as possible so they can try and attack the title
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