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By the names, the Europa League already looks quite solid, but the problem is in the motivation of the teams. Last year there were also many strong teams in the Europa League but in the end they did not show anything epic and did not even come close to the final. In general, it remains an underdog tournament for which even the title of the Europa League is an outrageous dream, the big clubs by and large ignore this tournament.
It's true, the Europa League is the second tier in Europe after the Champions League, that's what makes them not interested and trying to play optimally when playing here (for big teams). In contrast to teams that are difficult to penetrate the Champions League, they will definitely play to their full potential in this Europa League. Big teams in general only target the Champions League for them to target to become champions. We can see who is the champion from season to season.
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October 28, 2022, 11:10:43 AM
The last match will be decisive in this case because indeed everyone still has a chance even though they have to work hard in the last match later.
But my prediction won't change because I still feel that Tottenham and Sporting deserve 1 and 2 places but for third place of course I expect Frankfurt to come back because they won the Europa League last season and they have to go back there.
What you say is more logical, but I doubt Tottenham's performance for the last game in the Champions League group because they lost their last two matches in the Premier League. And Tottenham's last opponent in the Champions League group was Marseille which was also not so bad in Ligue 1, so the match between Marseille vs Tottenham will be very exciting considering that Marseille will also try their best to win in their last match in the Champions League group.
Marseille is now much worse than Tottenham I think.
Back-to-back defeats in Ligue 1 and Losing to Frankfurt in yesterday's match obviously made them a bit difficult now.

Currently Tottenham actually only need a draw to qualify but of course the runners up will not satisfy them, therefore I believe they will try to win so that in the knockout phase later they do not meet a strong club.
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October 28, 2022, 10:50:23 AM
Does anyone have the same view that the Europa League is now more exciting than the Champions League because now many big clubs are even getting lost in the Europa League after being knocked out of the Champions League. Now there are Barcelona and Juventus who will soon follow Manchester United and Arsenal.
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By the names, the Europa League already looks quite solid, but the problem is in the motivation of the teams. Last year there were also many strong teams in the Europa League but in the end they did not show anything epic and did not even come close to the final. In general, it remains an underdog tournament for which even the title of the Europa League is an outrageous dream, the big clubs by and large ignore this tournament.
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October 28, 2022, 10:42:41 AM
Having said all of that, they still have a chance to win the champions league
Some big clubs are now playing Europa League, they have a good chance to win once Bayern and Real Madrid have been knocked out already. PSG can get it this season
Do you believe Bayern and Real Madrid can be eliminated so easily in the Champions League? Or maybe you don't know Real Madrid that well to say so. Because I don't think that Real Madrid and Bayern Munich will be eliminated easily, because the team that won the Champions League trophy last season and also as the team that won the most trophies in the Champions League in the simplest words is Real Madrid, will not be easy to beat by every opponent in the Champions League because the Champions League is something that Real Madrid is very focused on.
In fact, any team can beat any other, although I find it hard to believe that Brugge can beat Bayern, but again last year, Bayern were knocked out by Villarreal. But most likely in the 1/8 finals we will not see many "high-profile" sensations, because due to the draw procedure, strong teams will have opponents mainly underdogs and the outcome will be clear in almost all pairs. But of course I would like to see at least a few loud couples already at the 1/8 stage.

The Champions League knockout round is very interesting. No team can win if they don't play well. Every team has to play carefully if they want to win. We know Club Brugge is a weak team. But it would be foolish to think that Bayern Munich will easily win against Brugge. Last season we saw the Villarreal team. Despite their poor form in La Liga, they played superbly in the Champions League. And their performance surprised everyone. And so we should be prepared to see any result in the knockout round.
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October 28, 2022, 10:35:35 AM
Without ego and solid teamwork, PSG is very strong for each opponent. I realize that but it is always difficult to change the attitude of these players in a very short time especially when certain players like Mbappe have more capacity in PSG management. Christophe Galtier has to make a really good approach to his star players so they can change his attitude to not put their egos forward when playing. But change is starting to show, meaning Christophe Galtier is starting to find ways to get players to work for the team instead of focusing on individual stats.
Yep, dealing with players' egos will be always a hard thing for the coach. Mauricio Pochettino (the previous coach) has experienced it, he realized it to be one of the biggest problems in PSG squad. Now, the new coach (Christophe Galtier), gradually to have a better approach to dealing with the egos of PSG starts players. I never heard of any issue about Messi's bad attitude, most of the issues about bad attitude problems are from Mbappe and Neymar. These players are always unpredictable and difficult to manage.  Cheesy

Today game between Barcelona and Bayern Munich shows the level that Barcelona are, I really think Barcelona did a mistake allowing Aubameyang leave, he is a world class players he proves that in Germany when he was playing with Dortmund were he pair very well with lawendowski, when Barcelona signed the Poland international I thought xavi will partner them together but laporta couldn't resist the offer from Chelsea's, ~
It is only your speculation/assumption.
Even if Lewandowski-Aubameyang played together today, it can't guarantee Barcelona to win. Barcelona has a complicated problem, it is not only in the attacking line. You need to realize how Barcelona defenders and midfielders perform poorly nowadays. It is the opposite with Bayern Munich, they are very solid and strong both in the midfield and defense line.


Honestly, I think the issue of ego in the PSG team is rather blown out of proportion by the media. The team ego alter isn't as bad as we perceived. Messi is a well known calm player and Neymar Jnr is relatively cool too; he just want to enjoy football. I think the contract of Mbappe is the reason for the pressure in the team, he's under pressure to be the star man hence the fuss recently. Manchester City have been a strong team for years, they haven't been able to win the UEFA Champion's League and we cannot attribute their failure to ego problem. I think it is same with PSG, on a good day and on paper they should be able to win the competition but  it's not always like that.
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October 28, 2022, 10:29:21 AM

uniting egos and making chemistry between star players is indeed very difficult, but so far PSG have worked well despite some results and the team's performance in some matches was not optimal, but on the UCL stage they have ensured themselves to qualify for the round of 16.

about many predicting that they will not go further or can not become champions because of the lack of chemistry in this team I think it's a mistake, they have very good quality players and anything is still possible, I think a team that has quality slick players and games currently have the same chances in the UCL this season, so does PSG.
In this case it is true but on the other hand we must also be aware that with PSG's compactness now actually compared to some other big clubs in the Champions League it is clear that it is a little difficult in my opinion.

PSG is still having a bit of trouble, apart from their normal cooperation, they also have a pretty heavy burden for the players, of course, especially since they have great players who can actually go further.
But sometimes their confidence is too high which causes them to be eliminated early.



Yes indeed, because even playing twice against Benfica in the group stage in fact PSG is still difficult to win. Moreover, in the round of 16, quarter-finals and the next round, PSG will play against top teams who are indeed title candidates.
With such a performance, of course, PSG will still find it difficult to reach the Champions League final. But that doesn't mean PSG completely lost the opportunity because after all, PSG have a chance to reach the final match but to get there is certainly not easy not only for PSG but also for all teams.
The games are getting more and more difficult and of course when the group stage ends it will be even more difficult because apart from only having 2 chances in this they also don't know who to face and last season PSG had to lose quite embarrassingly actually because it was only a few minutes before the match ended they had to lose that time and now of course this has to be minimized.
Now there are several big clubs that have already secured tickets to the knockout phase so PSG should be wary of the big clubs now.

They are dominated by experienced players and can still be said to be great players so their chances should be more than imagined but what is happening is the opposite for now.
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October 28, 2022, 10:28:31 AM
What Xavi is thinking is that Barcelona should focus more on the La Liga now that they will be playing in Europa League.In Europa League they will play mostly against opponents which are not as strong as them in terms of quality and most likely they will go very far there,personally I believe they will win this year Europa League and now that the odd of them should be really big as soon as they go there I am planning to bet some money on them.

They lost in this group not against Bayern but against Inter which they were supposed to win,they couldn't even in their home ground and now their main focus should be the La Liga as they are getting 3 points a lot of times there and they have only lost them against Real lately.

Maybe you will turn out to be right about their winning the Europa League title this season. However there is another fact that they didn't care about the Europa League too much last season. Even Frankfurt were able eliminate them at one point.

Maybe it was due to Barcelona's not making many transfers and spending too high amount of money. Because of this they must have played comfortably. But on the other hand, they need as much money as possible to fix their financial problems. Of course they are getting money from sponsorships etc. also. But that money wouldn't be enough for them to have a much more stable finance. They need success and prizes as a result. Winning the La Liga title will still be their priority but maybe this time they will care about the Europa League quite much also.
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October 28, 2022, 10:21:53 AM
Having said all of that, they still have a chance to win the champions league
Some big clubs are now playing Europa League, they have a good chance to win once Bayern and Real Madrid have been knocked out already. PSG can get it this season
Do you believe Bayern and Real Madrid can be eliminated so easily in the Champions League? Or maybe you don't know Real Madrid that well to say so. Because I don't think that Real Madrid and Bayern Munich will be eliminated easily, because the team that won the Champions League trophy last season and also as the team that won the most trophies in the Champions League in the simplest words is Real Madrid, will not be easy to beat by every opponent in the Champions League because the Champions League is something that Real Madrid is very focused on.

In fact, any team can beat any other, although I find it hard to believe that Brugge can beat Bayern, but again last year, Bayern were knocked out by Villarreal. But most likely in the 1/8 finals we will not see many "high-profile" sensations, because due to the draw procedure, strong teams will have opponents mainly underdogs and the outcome will be clear in almost all pairs. But of course I would like to see at least a few loud couples already at the 1/8 stage.
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October 28, 2022, 10:02:15 AM
Having said all of that, they still have a chance to win the champions league
Some big clubs are now playing Europa League, they have a good chance to win once Bayern and Real Madrid have been knocked out already. PSG can get it this season
Rather than PSG, Bayern Munich have a better chance of achieving it this season in my opinion. Bayer Munich until the fifth game has not lost even though. The club they faced was not a small club, but the club they beat Barcelona and Inter Milan.

Then, let's look at PSG. During the matches in the group stage, they only won 3 times and drew 2 times from 5 matches. If we look at the names of PSG players, it's impossible that they only managed to win 3 times.
In my opinion, mentally in the Champions League, PSG are not as strong as Bayern Munich.
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October 28, 2022, 09:48:54 AM

Tottenham are top of the Champions League group D standings but Tottenham position can still be evicted by their rivals. Until the fifth matchday Tottenham were only one point ahead of Sporting and Frankfurt, while Antonio Conte side were only two points ahead of Marseille. Everything can still happen in Group D, Tottenham will face Marseille, who is at the bottom of the table, the situation in Group D makes all four teams have a chance to qualify for the last 16.

Tottenham must not lose against Marseille on the last matchday in the group stage, Antonio Conte's men only need a draw to secure a ticket to the last 16. While in other matches, Sporting and Frankfurt will beat each other for a ticket to the last 16, if Sporting or Frankfurt can win the match while Tottenham lose to Marseille, Antonio Conte men will certainly be eliminated from the Champions League.

Some groups still have the opportunity to shift positions, not only in group D. Milan, for example, they must be able to win the last game to ensure their position remains safe in position 2. Because, if the last game loses, Salzburg can still replace its position. These two groups will be the most exciting in the hunt for tickets to the knockout phase. I hope Milan is able to give victory for their fans.
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October 28, 2022, 09:48:29 AM
The PSG club has the most expensive and successful players at the current club level.But I think they don't have good chemistry.As a result, they are not able to do well in the UEFA Champions League even with so many famous stars.I think some of the responsibility for this failure lies with the PSG coach.Because he may not have created a good understanding among all the players.But the decision that PSG management has taken now is a very good one.The coach they want to hire for their team is a very successful coach.Hopefully, if he joins the PNG team, there will be a good chemistry between all the players in the PSG team.
PSG is a really high quality team, I told my friend a few days back when we were discussing the French league. They are all brilliant on their own, and everyone knows their place in the organization. And while they perform their jobs effectively, they don't complement one another as a squad when it comes to things like shifting from left to right as a unit or staying compact defensively to maintain shape.
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October 28, 2022, 09:38:48 AM
Having said all of that, they still have a chance to win the champions league
Some big clubs are now playing Europa League, they have a good chance to win once Bayern and Real Madrid have been knocked out already. PSG can get it this season
Do you believe Bayern and Real Madrid can be eliminated so easily in the Champions League? Or maybe you don't know Real Madrid that well to say so. Because I don't think that Real Madrid and Bayern Munich will be eliminated easily, because the team that won the Champions League trophy last season and also as the team that won the most trophies in the Champions League in the simplest words is Real Madrid, will not be easy to beat by every opponent in the Champions League because the Champions League is something that Real Madrid is very focused on.
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October 28, 2022, 09:24:33 AM
The PSG club has the most expensive and successful players at the current club level.But I think they don't have good chemistry.As a result, they are not able to do well in the UEFA Champions League even with so many famous stars.I think some of the responsibility for this failure lies with the PSG coach.Because he may not have created a good understanding among all the players.But the decision that PSG management has taken now is a very good one.The coach they want to hire for their team is a very successful coach.Hopefully, if he joins the PNG team, there will be a good chemistry between all the players in the PSG team.

First of all i don't think that PSG has the most successful players in their squad overall. I think that Real Madrid has players that have won the champions league more often than the ones of PSG. I also don't really think that we should blame the coach of PSG for the fact that his team is not performing on a level that you can expect if you just look at the individual class of it's players. The new coach just started recently so i definitely think that the management of PSG is to blame for the bad chemistry in the squad. They are just throwing out the money that they receive from the sheikh to buy the biggest names out there but they have no idea how to build a working team. That is the reason why they did not win a CL trophy yet.

Having said all of that, they still have a chance to win the champions league
Some big clubs are now playing Europa League, they have a good chance to win once Bayern and Real Madrid have been knocked out already. PSG can get it this season
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October 28, 2022, 09:08:10 AM
Tottenham Hotspur will have to wait until the last match of the group stage to ensure qualification for the Champions League knockout stages. Tottenham actually had a chance to secure a ticket early when they hosted Sporting CP at their headquarters if Kane's goal was not disallowed.

Kane's goal disallowed incident caused various reactions until Conte received a red card for his strong protest against the referee. But this is the dramatic in a football game, the referee has made an inviolable decision even though sometimes VAR technology cannot detect 100% of the incident on the field.

Tottenham "forced" to fight again until the last game. In the final match, Harry Kane will not lose when he plays away to Marseille on the last matchday of the group phase next week. This means, Tottenham only need to achieve a draw or get one point to secure a ticket to the next round.
Tottenham are top of the Champions League group D standings but Tottenham position can still be evicted by their rivals. Until the fifth matchday Tottenham were only one point ahead of Sporting and Frankfurt, while Antonio Conte side were only two points ahead of Marseille. Everything can still happen in Group D, Tottenham will face Marseille, who is at the bottom of the table, the situation in Group D makes all four teams have a chance to qualify for the last 16.

Tottenham must not lose against Marseille on the last matchday in the group stage, Antonio Conte's men only need a draw to secure a ticket to the last 16. While in other matches, Sporting and Frankfurt will beat each other for a ticket to the last 16, if Sporting or Frankfurt can win the match while Tottenham lose to Marseille, Antonio Conte men will certainly be eliminated from the Champions League.
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October 28, 2022, 08:53:34 AM
By the way, the most interesting next matches in group D, the 4 clubs still have a chance to qualify. Very interesting to watch later on matchday 6, I personally favorite Tottenham and Eintracht Frankfurt to qualify. What is your opinion about group D?
Group D is currently the most exciting of all. 1st place Tottenham with 8 points after an extreme overtime yesterday and a not given goal by kane in minute 95 and a red card for trainer Conte. Eintracht Frankfurt with a strong game yesterday against Marseille, it was the first Champions League home win in the club's history. Lissabon with 7 pionts and last one Marseille with 6 points. That means every Team can win the group at the last matchday, crazy.

Yes it is, actually for guess which team will qualify is also very difficult, group D is the most different among other groups maybe same strong teams or..... Well I think those who didn't qualify also don't feel too sad, their efforts in this group to compete for qualification at the UCL very incredible, fans might also be happy to see it so the appearance of the 4 clubs in this event was very worthy to watch.
Very interesting to discuss on matchday 6 later, Marseille vs Tottenham and Lisbon vs Frankfurt. On paper Tottenham and Lisbon have great potential to qualify, but in football not that simple maybe we will see a surprise or nothing.
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October 28, 2022, 08:19:32 AM
Tottenham are always a disgrace to the English side in the champions league, they had the easiest of the group and you would think they will dominate the group easily but yet they haven't secured themselves in the next round of the competition. I would be expecting them to defeat Marseille as they have been very poor in their last 5 games. Tottenham won them in the first leg so this should be easy. Marseille should exit the champions league quietly and focus on their local league if they won't to participate in the champions league next season.
The injury storm suffered by The Lilywhites was the concrete reason they got bad results from the previous game, Conte did not have the right options to rotate players in the squad, even the substitutes they had not as good as the injured players, this will be a tough task for the coach, considering there are still many important matches that they have to face in the future.
In the Champions League Tottenham have not confirmed a ticket to the last 16, currently they have eight points and a difference of one point from Sporting CP and Frankfurt as their competitors. Tottenham only need one point to qualify for the last 16, but to become group winners, they must be able to secure full points away from home in week six.

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Tottenham hasn't been doing so well lately but considering they understand that their chances of topping the groups depends on how determined they'll be against the Marseille side in the upcoming game then I believe they should convincingly win as they did in the first leg with two or more goals.
Capital two goals when entertaining Marseille at home is a positive result for Tottenham, this will be an opportunity to become champions of the group in the Champions League, however Tottenham must play carefully, because Marseille could be a surprise.
The injury storm experienced by Tottenham, will be utilized by coach Igor Tudor, this will be a special concern for Konte in preparing for the match that will take place at the Velodrom Stade Orange.
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October 28, 2022, 08:17:12 AM
The PSG club has the most expensive and successful players at the current club level.But I think they don't have good chemistry.As a result, they are not able to do well in the UEFA Champions League even with so many famous stars.I think some of the responsibility for this failure lies with the PSG coach.Because he may not have created a good understanding among all the players.But the decision that PSG management has taken now is a very good one.The coach they want to hire for their team is a very successful coach.Hopefully, if he joins the PNG team, there will be a good chemistry between all the players in the PSG team.

First of all i don't think that PSG has the most successful players in their squad overall. I think that Real Madrid has players that have won the champions league more often than the ones of PSG. I also don't really think that we should blame the coach of PSG for the fact that his team is not performing on a level that you can expect if you just look at the individual class of it's players. The new coach just started recently so i definitely think that the management of PSG is to blame for the bad chemistry in the squad. They are just throwing out the money that they receive from the sheikh to buy the biggest names out there but they have no idea how to build a working team. That is the reason why they did not win a CL trophy yet.
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October 28, 2022, 07:57:50 AM
The PSG club has the most expensive and successful players at the current club level.But I think they don't have good chemistry.As a result, they are not able to do well in the UEFA Champions League even with so many famous stars.I think some of the responsibility for this failure lies with the PSG coach.Because he may not have created a good understanding among all the players.But the decision that PSG management has taken now is a very good one.The coach they want to hire for their team is a very successful coach.Hopefully, if he joins the PNG team, there will be a good chemistry between all the players in the PSG team.
The problem is some players like mbappe is always making so much noise in the club. I remember when he was always blaming coach and another player in PSG. The problems were coming from so many ways. It seems like that PSG is slowly but surely building its chemistry again. It can be seen from how many goals already made by PSG in the second leg of champion league qualifier. So many great players in the same club didn't mean chemistry can be built easily caused by they have their own ego to perform even better and public can pay more attention just like what have done by mbappe. This player is thinking if the club rely with him. that's why he was doing what he wants in PSG.
Actually the negative news about Mbappe is slightly exaggerated.
Even though there are some actions that are right but not all of them are true because thanks to the media that brought up this news he looked bad.

On the other hand, now there is more power than Mbappe because indeed he was given other freedoms at the club so that this kind of thing is actually inevitable.

About Mbappe it looks bad, but after they can return to play well and compact between Neymar and Mbappe. So I think the problems that occur between them and of course with the team as a whole, the problem is not as bad as imagined. Because after all, if their problems are very bad then of course it will be difficult for them to reconcile and it will be difficult for them to play with good cooperation.
But in reality they are still easy to control and problems in the team can still be resolved quickly. Therefore, I think the problems that occur will still not affect their performance in the Champions League because after all, the Champions League is their main target which of course they will work hard to be even better in the Champions League this season.


uniting egos and making chemistry between star players is indeed very difficult, but so far PSG have worked well despite some results and the team's performance in some matches was not optimal, but on the UCL stage they have ensured themselves to qualify for the round of 16.

about many predicting that they will not go further or can not become champions because of the lack of chemistry in this team I think it's a mistake, they have very good quality players and anything is still possible, I think a team that has quality slick players and games currently have the same chances in the UCL this season, so does PSG.
In this case it is true but on the other hand we must also be aware that with PSG's compactness now actually compared to some other big clubs in the Champions League it is clear that it is a little difficult in my opinion.

PSG is still having a bit of trouble, apart from their normal cooperation, they also have a pretty heavy burden for the players, of course, especially since they have great players who can actually go further.
But sometimes their confidence is too high which causes them to be eliminated early.



Yes indeed, because even playing twice against Benfica in the group stage in fact PSG is still difficult to win. Moreover, in the round of 16, quarter-finals and the next round, PSG will play against top teams who are indeed title candidates.
With such a performance, of course, PSG will still find it difficult to reach the Champions League final. But that doesn't mean PSG completely lost the opportunity because after all, PSG have a chance to reach the final match but to get there is certainly not easy not only for PSG but also for all teams.
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October 28, 2022, 07:56:58 AM
This season is different from last season, the chemistry between their star players is good and the three support each other. Then you need to review the standings and their last 5 match before you say bad. For me, 3 wins, 2 draws, 14 goals, 6 conceded and they are the leader of the group is something good compared to other teams like Barcelona, ​​Juventus or Real Madrid.

PSG are one of the favorites in the Champions League and you shouldn't underestimate them compared to other popular teams. Manchester City, Real Madrid, Bayern Munich, PSG are the top 4 teams in the Champions League at the moment and I don't think it's good to underestimate them.
PSG have quite good performance in this season and have bigger chance can be leader group standing finish if last match win from Juventus, little doubted although have impressive performance at group stage if finish 2nd standing possibility have bigger team waiting at 16 round for PSG. Can't imagine if PSG finished at 2nd standing and have to face with 1st standing finish team like Manchester City, Bayern or Real Madrid. I doubted against with big top team above have chance for PSG can lead to next round in Champion League.

Until 5 matches at group stage only have both team with perfect performance and success win all games, Napoli and Bayern are the team have collected perfect achievement with 15 points and still unbeaten team so far, left one match I think only with Bayern have chance can collected with perfect points at group stage matches.
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October 28, 2022, 07:42:30 AM
The PSG club has the most expensive and successful players at the current club level.But I think they don't have good chemistry.As a result, they are not able to do well in the UEFA Champions League even with so many famous stars.
This season is different from last season, the chemistry between their star players is good and the three support each other. Then you need to review the standings and their last 5 match before you say bad. For me, 3 wins, 2 draws, 14 goals, 6 conceded and they are the leader of the group is something good compared to other teams like Barcelona, ​​Juventus or Real Madrid.

PSG are one of the favorites in the Champions League and you shouldn't underestimate them compared to other popular teams. Manchester City, Real Madrid, Bayern Munich, PSG are the top 4 teams in the Champions League at the moment and I don't think it's good to underestimate them.
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