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October 28, 2022, 04:00:24 PM
Liverpool have seemed to be very promising thanks to their performance in their last four group games. It was a horrible start against Napoli by a 4-1 loss and I started questioning their future already. However they still showed their quality and won four games in a row.

However two of these games were against Rangers and they didn't have any problem at all in those games as a result. The other two were against Ajax which were a strong team on paper. But in action, they have had a horrible run in the Champions League. I don't remember the last time I saw them this much weak here. I just want to see Liverpool against bigger teams after the group stage. If we still see some struggle and inconsistency just as in the EPL then I don't think they can make it to the CL title this season.
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October 28, 2022, 03:49:05 PM
Apart from Barcelona moving to the Europa League, it's not just their game that they will win, it's the opponents that we don't know that make it less difficult for them, in this European league there are many other big teams competing after being relegated from the Champions League who didn't qualify.
Barcelona and other teams need to work hard to win the title.
Whatever you believe about Barcelona is still very likely to be wrong in the end. Last season Barcelona were favorites for the title when they met Frankfurt, but they failed because Frankfurt played better. This season is also uncertain, Barcelona has a chance to fail in any competition if their performance is not stable.
I really think that Barcelona is not as strong as I predicted, but maybe it's reasonable because the teams in Group C are strong teams where it is difficult to predict the outcome. I was really surprised because in the end only Real Madrid qualified for the next round.

I will not say that the Barcelona team is not strong. Barcelona's team is strong enough. They have a lot of talented players in their squad. But the problem is that it is very difficult to make predictions about Barcelona's performance. Because there is no consistency in their performance. Barcelona does not perform well against big teams. Barcelona has several weaknesses. It is a shame that a renowned team like Barcelona will be eliminated from the Champions League in the first round. Xavi will definitely want to perform well in the Europa League and La Liga. I think if Barcelona's defence is strong they will be able to win the La Liga title.
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October 28, 2022, 03:47:58 PM
Spanish clubs has shown very poor outing in this season's champions league. They only managed to qualify one team out of four teams that came for the tournament. If you compare this to England where all the four teams would be qualifying, you will understand why people say that England is the most competitive league in Europe. They have proven it once more.
Actually Barcelona and Athletico are very good at playing in La Liga, they are also second and third in the standings. But if you look at sevilla maybe they are in bad form considering they still survive at the bottom of the table. I understand about the English league, there are many great teams like Arsenal, Manchester City and Tottenham Hotspur, they are competing for the top of the standings and each has a small point difference. A little addition at this time Newcastle United are in good form and enter the 4th position of the standings.

That proves that if the only team that has capability to compete with another big clubs is only madrid. Barcelona is still far from a team that can compete with another big clubs in champion league.
Some candidates are also coming from serie a. It seems like serie a has been performing quite better compared with la liga. It can be seen from how many candidates that have been sent to the last 16 by any league.
Barcelona can only win against small clubs. Its mentality doesn't seem good when it will be facing the big clubs with balanced players. You can see the result how barcelona makes 0 shot.
If we talk about Real Madrid of course they are the King of the Champions League with 14 trophies. Even Real Madrid still holds the record of winning the Champions League 3 times in a row in 2016, 2017, and 2018 of course it is very impossible if there is a club who wants to break that record.
The Italian teams that qualified for the next round were Napoli, Inter, and AC Milan. All three are also on fire in series A.
For barcelona they don't care about winning and just seem to play tactics that shouldn't be necessary if the end will still lose.
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October 28, 2022, 03:10:57 PM
Do you believe Bayern and Real Madrid can be eliminated
if i may not believe it because i know both of them are great and strong team, i believe one of them will go to the final of champions league champion this season, at least meet Manchester city or PSG between the two are also quite strong and play well during the champions league
We are difficult who will be eliminated in the champions league they are too great and possible to beat other teams so I can't say for sure they will finish first or not.
But I want to watch their matches as well as possible during the competition, whether the club mentioned or any other club, because in this competition all the best European clubs fight to advance to the final.
Real Madrid, PSG and Man City are in my opinion the best candidates.
So many great clubs participating. We should expect the best from every participating club, watching all will give the best fun of the round of 16. Advancing to the final stage will not just be gratified by how good the clubs are but how well they will be able to utilise what they have.
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October 28, 2022, 03:10:33 PM
Apart from Barcelona moving to the Europa League, it's not just their game that they will win, it's the opponents that we don't know that make it less difficult for them, in this European league there are many other big teams competing after being relegated from the Champions League who didn't qualify.
Barcelona and other teams need to work hard to win the title.
Whatever you believe about Barcelona is still very likely to be wrong in the end. Last season Barcelona were favorites for the title when they met Frankfurt, but they failed because Frankfurt played better. This season is also uncertain, Barcelona has a chance to fail in any competition if their performance is not stable.

I really think that Barcelona is not as strong as I predicted, but maybe it's reasonable because the teams in Group C are strong teams where it is difficult to predict the outcome. I was really surprised because in the end only Real Madrid qualified for the next round.
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October 28, 2022, 03:10:21 PM


I don't agree with you. The Champions League is very competitive. Manchester City and PSG are favorites to win the Champions League title every season. They have a strong squad. Though Manchester City and PSG have yet to win the Champions League. Both the teams have strong squads this season as well. But there is no way to say for sure that they will win the title.

Bayern Munich and Real Madrid have relatively stable squads. And they have been able to continue to perform consistently well. And so it is not possible to predict right now whether PSG or Manchester City will win the title. To me, City, PSG, Munich and Madrid all have the same talent to win the title.
The four teams have real talent but champions league does not rely only on talents but team spirit recent triumph by Madrid has proven that. Man City has failed in the couple of years due to lack of players that can't turn up when they are down and also Pep's poor tactics in the last stages. For PSG, I feel they haven't got a leader but with Ramos and Messi in this current squad they might go a long way. Bayern on the other hand are the biggest threat to Madrid's quest for the UCL but they have a relatively young squad including the squad. Bayern's biggest problem this season is playing without a striker that can guarantee them some number of goals.

This four teams are actually bookmakers favourites but I expect team like Napoli to spring surprises.
For now my pick for the trophy still remain Madrid
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October 28, 2022, 03:01:16 PM
You would actually think that it is impossible for a team other than PSG or Manchester City to win the Champions League. However, we also have a draw, if it goes against you can get all the favorites in a row. Real Madrid had a really tough draw last year, so it was all the better that they managed to win the cup. They play well, have good players but against PSG or Manchester City in form it will be a very difficult story. I'm curious what the bookmakers think of Liverpool's chances, if they get their form back then they have a chance against everyone. If Liverpool play out of form against PSG it will be a hard punishment.
I haven't seen any improvement made by Liverpool, I mean a significant improvement. But it's not impossible Liverpool can do it in this Champions League.
Manchester City have a solid team at the moment which adds to their confidence and will increase. But in the group stage there is no team that is really a balanced opponent for them, I still need to see how far they come when faced with a team that is balanced in strength.
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October 28, 2022, 02:50:10 PM
Barcelona hardly claimed to win the Champions League with such a squad, but the club is now obliged to have the Europa League win as a goal. And the team should make every effort to do this.
With the current Teams nobody can really claim to win the Champions League , even when they have a good squad.
There are so much good teams with great players in there . The whole team must playing good and that for a long time to win the title.
And for Barcelona it will be also hard now to play the Europa League and win it.
If Barcelona want to do well in the Champions League, they need more quality players in their squad. Because to reach the Champions League with the current players is absolutely extraordinary. It is important to add some new midfielders and defense in their team. The exit from the Champions League led to some financial problems
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October 28, 2022, 02:47:12 PM
There is still one game left for all clubs, PSG will 100% finish at the top, meaning they will face a second of another group, and looking at the seconds of the groups, unless they face Liverpool they won't have any type of trouble. And even if they face them, Liverpool is not really doing great this season so they may beat them easily too.

It will as always start at quarter finals, usually top 16 doesn't have shocking results, maybe one game could be shocking out of 8, but usually it will be top of the table teams beating the seconds of the groups. However, after that it's unknown what PSG could do, it's going to get worse and we are going to see them not being at their best for sure.
I am also optimistic to see PSG will be top of the table in the group stage until the last match. PSG will play Juventus in the last match in the group stage, and there I don't think they will miss the best moment to win the match.

About the opponents they will face in the last 16, I don't think it's necessary to think about it now because some position changes will occur in the last match. It might be lucky if PSG don't meet difficult opponents like Milan, Inter or Liverpool, but it's always possible to meet one of them (if all these teams qualify).
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October 28, 2022, 02:46:46 PM
You would actually think that it is impossible for a team other than PSG or Manchester City to win the Champions League. However, we also have a draw, if it goes against you can get all the favorites in a row. Real Madrid had a really tough draw last year, so it was all the better that they managed to win the cup. They play well, have good players but against PSG or Manchester City in form it will be a very difficult story. I'm curious what the bookmakers think of Liverpool's chances, if they get their form back then they have a chance against everyone. If Liverpool play out of form against PSG it will be a hard punishment.

I don't agree with you. The Champions League is very competitive. Manchester City and PSG are favorites to win the Champions League title every season. They have a strong squad. Though Manchester City and PSG have yet to win the Champions League. Both the teams have strong squads this season as well. But there is no way to say for sure that they will win the title.

Bayern Munich and Real Madrid have relatively stable squads. And they have been able to continue to perform consistently well. And so it is not possible to predict right now whether PSG or Manchester City will win the title. To me, City, PSG, Munich and Madrid all have the same talent to win the title.
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October 28, 2022, 02:38:18 PM
Do you believe Bayern and Real Madrid can be eliminated
if i may not believe it because i know both of them are great and strong team, i believe one of them will go to the final of champions league champion this season, at least meet Manchester city or PSG between the two are also quite strong and play well during the champions league
We are difficult who will be eliminated in the champions league they are too great and possible to beat other teams so I can't say for sure they will finish first or not.
But I want to watch their matches as well as possible during the competition, whether the club mentioned or any other club, because in this competition all the best European clubs fight to advance to the final.
Real Madrid, PSG and Man City are in my opinion the best candidates.
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October 28, 2022, 02:36:51 PM
There is still one game left for all clubs, PSG will 100% finish at the top, meaning they will face a second of another group, and looking at the seconds of the groups, unless they face Liverpool they won't have any type of trouble. And even if they face them, Liverpool is not really doing great this season so they may beat them easily too.

It will as always start at quarter finals, usually top 16 doesn't have shocking results, maybe one game could be shocking out of 8, but usually it will be top of the table teams beating the seconds of the groups. However, after that it's unknown what PSG could do, it's going to get worse and we are going to see them not being at their best for sure.

I will so sorry for Liverpool if they face PSG
Finally at the end it will end in tears for Liverpool fan's
PSG did well to maintain number one, even if benfica challenge them very well
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October 28, 2022, 02:24:13 PM
You would actually think that it is impossible for a team other than PSG or Manchester City to win the Champions League. However, we also have a draw, if it goes against you can get all the favorites in a row. Real Madrid had a really tough draw last year, so it was all the better that they managed to win the cup. They play well, have good players but against PSG or Manchester City in form it will be a very difficult story. I'm curious what the bookmakers think of Liverpool's chances, if they get their form back then they have a chance against everyone. If Liverpool play out of form against PSG it will be a hard punishment.
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October 28, 2022, 02:13:34 PM
Barcelona hardly claimed to win the Champions League with such a squad, but the club is now obliged to have the Europa League win as a goal. And the team should make every effort to do this.
With the current Teams nobody can really claim to win the Champions League , even when they have a good squad.
There are so much good teams with great players in there . The whole team must playing good and that for a long time to win the title.
And for Barcelona it will be also hard now to play the Europa League and win it.
The Champions League and Europa League competitions cannot be predicted who will win the title, even if PSG, Real Madrid or Manchester City have a good squad it is not necessarily they will win it, there is still a long struggle during this season so that they can survive until to the final to reach the championship he won, because every team has great quality of play even the unexpected so these two competitions they will continue to compete.

Apart from Barcelona moving to the Europa League, it's not just their game that they will win, it's the opponents that we don't know that make it less difficult for them, in this European league there are many other big teams competing after being relegated from the Champions League who didn't qualify.
Barcelona and other teams need to work hard to win the title.
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October 28, 2022, 01:54:20 PM
There is still one game left for all clubs, PSG will 100% finish at the top, meaning they will face a second of another group, and looking at the seconds of the groups, unless they face Liverpool they won't have any type of trouble. And even if they face them, Liverpool is not really doing great this season so they may beat them easily too.

It will as always start at quarter finals, usually top 16 doesn't have shocking results, maybe one game could be shocking out of 8, but usually it will be top of the table teams beating the seconds of the groups. However, after that it's unknown what PSG could do, it's going to get worse and we are going to see them not being at their best for sure.
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October 28, 2022, 01:51:13 PM
Barcelona hardly claimed to win the Champions League with such a squad, but the club is now obliged to have the Europa League win as a goal. And the team should make every effort to do this.
With the current Teams nobody can really claim to win the Champions League , even when they have a good squad.
There are so much good teams with great players in there . The whole team must playing good and that for a long time to win the title.
And for Barcelona it will be also hard now to play the Europa League and win it.
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October 28, 2022, 01:35:01 PM
Do you believe Bayern and Real Madrid can be eliminated
if i may not believe it because i know both of them are great and strong team, i believe one of them will go to the final of champions league champion this season, at least meet Manchester city or PSG between the two are also quite strong and play well during the champions league
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October 28, 2022, 01:34:53 PM
The Champions League knockout round is very interesting. No team can win if they don't play well. Every team has to play carefully if they want to win. We know Club Brugge is a weak team. But it would be foolish to think that Bayern Munich will easily win against Brugge. Last season we saw the Villarreal team. Despite their poor form in La Liga, they played superbly in the Champions League. And their performance surprised everyone. And so we should be prepared to see any result in the knockout round.

You're right. Of course, you should not underestimate a team like Club Brugge, but you have to note that they are clear underdogs against top teams like FC Bayern, Manchester City or Real Madrid. And I can't see them beating any of the previously mentioned teams in the round of 16 (maybe in one of the two legs, but they won't make it to the quarter finals imho).

Brugge is of course playing the CL season of their life and you should never rule out surprises, but I think they will only make it to the next round if they get a weaker draw. If it is one of the top teams they are out.

If I had to decide which two teams would be in the final based on the group stage matches so far, it would be PSG and FC Bayern.

But let's see. The road is still quite long and probably everything will be different in the end anyway. Brugge for CL final.  Cheesy
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October 28, 2022, 01:29:50 PM
This season is different from last season, the chemistry between their star players is good and the three support each other. Then you need to review the standings and their last 5 match before you say bad. For me, 3 wins, 2 draws, 14 goals, 6 conceded and they are the leader of the group is something good compared to other teams like Barcelona, ​​Juventus or Real Madrid.

PSG are one of the favorites in the Champions League and you shouldn't underestimate them compared to other popular teams. Manchester City, Real Madrid, Bayern Munich, PSG are the top 4 teams in the Champions League at the moment and I don't think it's good to underestimate them.
PSG have quite good performance in this season and have bigger chance can be leader group standing finish if last match win from Juventus, little doubted although have impressive performance at group stage if finish 2nd standing possibility have bigger team waiting at 16 round for PSG. Can't imagine if PSG finished at 2nd standing and have to face with 1st standing finish team like Manchester City, Bayern or Real Madrid. I doubted against with big top team above have chance for PSG can lead to next round in Champion League.

Until 5 matches at group stage only have both team with perfect performance and success win all games, Napoli and Bayern are the team have collected perfect achievement with 15 points and still unbeaten team so far, left one match I think only with Bayern have chance can collected with perfect points at group stage matches.
Mbappe started to build team harmony and must have noticed the ball coming back to him as he played like this. Every shot from PSG's forward trio makes their fans smile. Maccabi should be commended for brave and good plays. They did not play defensively in almost any match in the group. I especially liked that they beat Juve 2-0 and make them got eliminated. Maccabi's understanding of the game that beautifies the match, the men are playing bravely, they could lean on the defense and cool the match, they did not do that, they made us watch the match with a nice pace. They scored 2 goals but conceded 7. Yes, Messi, Neymar, Mbappe made a show, but Maccabi also made us watch this show with their courageous game. Meanwhile, they made serious attacks against PSG.
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October 28, 2022, 12:36:55 PM
Honestly, I think the issue of ego in the PSG team is rather blown out of proportion by the media. The team ego alter isn't as bad as we perceived.
Of course, things are sometimes not reported as they are and it is exaggerated by the media. But in some ways, I agree that the ego between the star players must also exist.

Manchester City have been a strong team for years, they haven't been able to win the UEFA Champion's League and we cannot attribute their failure to ego problem. I think it is same with PSG, on a good day and on paper they should be able to win the competition but  it's not always like that.
I believe the problems experienced by Manchester City and PSG are not the same. I don't like to call all PSG players better and quality because they don't have them. Compared to Manchester City, the quality of PSG's players is lower, especially in midfield. I had to admit that weakness instead of having to agree with everything. About the title it's a matter of time, I think they're very well prepared for it.
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