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October 27, 2022, 01:32:34 PM
It's like we are seeing the same scenario for two seasons especially.

Some big teams are unexpectedly eliminated in the Champions League and they continue on their way in the Europa League. This time there are teams like Barcelona, Atletico Madrid, Juventus and Ajax for example. Atletico Madrid might not even qualify for the Europa League though depending on the results on the final week. There is Sevilla there also but I don't see it interesting because they are known by the Europa League more actually. Because they won the title there so many times.  Grin
it was a surprise that happened in the ucl this season. how impossible it is for Barcelona not to qualify for the next round and of course no one thought they had to play in the Europa League but in reality it all happened. well one fate maybe we will see group E where we will see an opportunity from Ac milan to qualify for the next round in the life and death match against Rb salzburg because if AC milan loses then the euro league will await them and vice versa. This season's champions league was full of surprises in the group phase where Barcelona, ​​Juventus, and Ajax had to go home first due to loss after loss. PSG, Bayern, Manchester City and Real Madrid are still the strongest candidates in the UCL and I think the knockout round will be quite an interesting spectacle.
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October 27, 2022, 01:25:47 PM
Barcelona has not let it down in this match. It is also not entirely fair to give an accurate analysis of this match, as Inter Milan had already won 4-0 beforehand and so Barcelona already knew that they were eliminated from the Champions League. Then I can imagine that the necessary motivation problems have started to arise. Maybe it is good for Barcelona to play in the Europa League, they can certainly win that tournament, but they are not the top favourite. I would like to see Barcelona - Arsenal.

Despite having a lot of talented players in Barcelona, ​​they are not performing as well as expected. Their match strategy is very weak. A change in match strategy is required. There are a lot of problems within the Barcelona team. Slowly Xavi is trying to stabilize and strengthen his team. The Barcelona team needs more time to strengthen. Although Barcelona had a strong squad, they were not favourites for the Champions League. But I thought they could qualify for the knockout round. However, disappointing the fans, Barcelona is eliminated from the first round. This is very sad.
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October 27, 2022, 01:25:21 PM
Real Madrid stars play very well compared to Barcelona stars. A few days ago, Real Madrid and Barcelona played, and Barcelona beat 3-1goal.
UEFA champion League 2022/2023 Real Madrid, Manchester City, Barcelona, ​​PSG, Arsenal and many other good teams are among the best teams. But I think Real Madrid and Manchester City are the most likely to win this Champions League.
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October 27, 2022, 01:16:46 PM
Barcelona has not let it down in this match. It is also not entirely fair to give an accurate analysis of this match, as Inter Milan had already won 4-0 beforehand and so Barcelona already knew that they were eliminated from the Champions League. Then I can imagine that the necessary motivation problems have started to arise. Maybe it is good for Barcelona to play in the Europa League, they can certainly win that tournament, but they are not the top favourite. I would like to see Barcelona - Arsenal.
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October 27, 2022, 01:15:01 PM
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Very sad indeed, because Barcelona was not able to give their best in the Champions League group phase this season, as well as last season. Actually, when Inter Milan won yesterday against Viktoria Plzen, Barcelona's position was also eliminated to go to the next round, coupled with Barcelona who lost at home against Bayern Munich, it was clear that Barcelona had to go home disappointed and forget about Champions League this season.
Seeing how bad the results of Barcelona this season, lost their big names and unable to advance to the next round, very bad achievements following the results they received. Barcelona players are now a young force in Xavi Hernandez's long -term project, and of course it takes time to build and make the team more developed.

But for big clubs, this is a step back for them, considering that there are still other clubs that rely on young players, but look quite consistent until now in the Champions League.
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October 27, 2022, 01:05:54 PM
Last night when the score was already 3 - 0 I had turned off the television because I was very sure that Inter Milan would win and be the runner up of the group. This is the second time in a row Barcelona have dropped into the Europa League, after last season they also suffered the same fate.
It really hurts but I'm sure they have fought for a place despite the disappointing result. I didn't expect Barcelona to have to drop out of the Champions League so quickly, but I really know they are in the most difficult group based on the quality of the team. The result was disappointing, but I really saw an improvement in the quality of the players they had even though their defense was still very weak against big teams.
I think Xavi hasn't even been Barcelona manager for a year and he's already sent them down from the Champions League to the Europa League TWICE. which he said Generation manager.
barcelona now it's Ball possession and number of passes always wins, but 0 shots on goal. Definition of "win unnecessarily, play beautiful number one"
Actually Barca did 1 shout on goal, but still it is very sad, especially for Barcelona, which was always famous for the excellent game in the attack, when Havi was still a game and assisted Messi with the Iniesta.
Barca game looks very strange in the attack loolks like this is a real crisis of ideas in the attack by Barcelona.
Well, somewhere the young talent of Fati immediately disappeared, along with the Dembele. In general, there is nothing to do with such a game in the attack in the playoff.
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October 27, 2022, 12:27:18 PM
Management that is not too good actually has been felt from the previous few seasons but it is getting better in my opinion. Barcelona's problem is quite complicated right now so we can't really blame just one party because of course something like this has become a common mistake.
It is also difficult for them to change management now because of course this is still related to financial conditions.
I don't know what's wrong with Barcelona's management, I think it's good as expected but the results of his campaign this season are not very impressive. Barcelona failed to advance to the last 16 of the Champions League actually not because they don't have good management, it's because 3 out of 4 teams in the group are strong teams and I think people shouldn't ignore that.

The problem is not as complicated as I think, I really see things differently from their performance in Laliga where Barcelona are able to maintain a consistent game with only 3 points away from the leader of the table. This season's Champions League is difficult for Barcelona, ​​the same may be recognized by all the teams in the group but if Barcelona are ready on all fronts then the result may not be the same.
Indeed, in this case we also cannot ignore the fact that in their group there are Bayern and Inter but it is clear in terms of actual performance that Barcelona is more superior than Inter.
Their consistency was disrupted when some of their core players were injured and it became a bit complicated when Xavi couldn't make up for this with the existing players so their balance was a little shaky with the hectic schedule and some big games that had to be passed in the midst of their condition not being 100 percent strong because of some problems. their players leave.

But that doesn't matter now because they have nothing to say now and have to accept that their place is the Europa League.
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October 27, 2022, 12:11:40 PM
It really was a tough group. Barcelona is a better team than Inter, but it isn't sensational that they are not going through to the knockouts.
Last year it was Benfica that was ahead of them (with Bayern topping the group once again) and that was something that a club of such stature should be avoiding.

They will be one of the favorites to win the EL for sure, and that was not the case last season.
The match always changes the facts that happen on the field even though Barcelona this season still can't beat Inter Milan which incidentally is stronger than Inter Milan but that's where the champions league side is unexpected and a big surprise that we know the results now.

Even though the Champions League competition ends and the Europa League ends, Barcelona must continue to fight there, many other big teams have to enter here so it is possible that Barcelona will experience difficult things again, and it seems like 3 representatives of LaLiga will leave the Europa League to continue Their mission is to win the trophy.
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October 27, 2022, 12:11:08 PM
I think Xavi hasn't even been Barcelona manager for a year and he's already sent them down from the Champions League to the Europa League TWICE. which he said Generation manager.
barcelona now it's Ball possession and number of passes always wins, but 0 shots on goal. Definition of "win unnecessarily, play beautiful number one"
There are times to play beautifully without the need to score more goals against the opponent, for example like in the last match for the Champions League group. If a team has confirmed itself to qualify for the round of 16, then in the last match it's time to play beautifully even though they don't get another win. Because the main thing that the team must aim for is a win to put the team in a position it deserves and wants, not in a position like the one occupied by Barcelona now.
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October 27, 2022, 12:02:14 PM
Last night when the score was already 3 - 0 I had turned off the television because I was very sure that Inter Milan would win and be the runner up of the group. This is the second time in a row Barcelona have dropped into the Europa League, after last season they also suffered the same fate.
It really hurts but I'm sure they have fought for a place despite the disappointing result. I didn't expect Barcelona to have to drop out of the Champions League so quickly, but I really know they are in the most difficult group based on the quality of the team. The result was disappointing, but I really saw an improvement in the quality of the players they had even though their defense was still very weak against big teams.
I think Xavi hasn't even been Barcelona manager for a year and he's already sent them down from the Champions League to the Europa League TWICE. which he said Generation manager.
barcelona now it's Ball possession and number of passes always wins, but 0 shots on goal. Definition of "win unnecessarily, play beautiful number one"
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October 27, 2022, 11:58:43 AM
When the group matches didn't start yet I was pretty confident about Barcelona to qualify for next stage with Bayern Munich. I was even indecisive about whether they would finish as leader.  Grin  Because Bayern Munich didn't start the Bundesliga well and they were lacking a striker. But now things are completely the opposite.

Barcelona are just in a really interesting situation. They are doing good in the La Liga when we take the results they have got in general so far. But they just can't reflect the same performance on bigger matches in the Champions League. They collected only one point against Bayern Munich and Inter in total. Can you imagine how horrible statistics this is? I wonder what Xavi is thinking about this situation. But clearly he doesn't intend to change anything in the team for now.

It's true, what happened to Barcelona was very surprising in the UCL this season, even last month someone said that Inter Milan would not be able to qualify for the knockout round, but my prediction can still be proven, because at that time I saw the distance between Inter and Barcelona. not far. The defeat experienced by Barcelona will certainly be an important lesson for Xavi, because his players still have many weaknesses which could be these weaknesses also occur in La-Liga in the future.
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October 27, 2022, 11:48:25 AM
Last night when the score was already 3 - 0 I had turned off the television because I was very sure that Inter Milan would win and be the runner up of the group. This is the second time in a row Barcelona have dropped into the Europa League, after last season they also suffered the same fate.
I just stop to watch it after intermilan has been scoring the second goal to the plzen. The worst achievement by xavi. Why the hell people are still calling him as a good coach. that doesn't even make sense to see that. I remember when some barcelona's players were mocking that wanted to buy them all just like kounde. This guy was mocking chelsea and thiago was doing the same once he was seeing barcelona can't achieve the full points against intermilan.
Just caused by lewandoski became top scorer in the la liga and it doesn't mean the club will get trophies. Top scorer was nothing if your team was not even winning a single trophy.  Grin

Lol, even I won't be sure to watch it for the Inter match, because of course Inter will win against Plzen yesterday, because Inter are also playing at home which of course Inter will win the match. Therefore, I was even sure long before the match started, that Barcelona would be eliminated as happened for Juventus. They both have had problems with the wrong coach, because if I consider the squad they have they should have gone further in the Champions League this season. But sadly, their coach is a complete mess because even though Xavi did well in La Liga but Xavi didn't succeed in the Champions League, and for Allegri it was a very chaotic coach.

But regarding Barcelona and Juventus, it seems that they still have different fates in this European tournament, because Barcelona has been eliminated in the Champions League but Barcelona is certain to continue to play in the Europa League. But for Juventus, because currently Juventus' points are still the same as Maccabi Haifa, it is still uncertain whether Juventus will continue to the Europa League or not.
If in the last match Maccabi Haifa, for example, got points and Juventus lost, then of course Juventus would be completely eliminated from the European competition. But because PSG and Benfica will certainly still be competing to win the group, then of course PSG and Benfica still have a chance to win and if that happens then Juventus will continue to advance to the Europa League.
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October 27, 2022, 11:33:28 AM
It's like we are seeing the same scenario for two seasons especially.

Some big teams are unexpectedly eliminated in the Champions League and they continue on their way in the Europa League. This time there are teams like Barcelona, Atletico Madrid, Juventus and Ajax for example. Atletico Madrid might not even qualify for the Europa League though depending on the results on the final week. There is Sevilla there also but I don't see it interesting because they are known by the Europa League more actually. Because they won the title there so many times.  Grin
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October 27, 2022, 11:28:15 AM
Last night when the score was already 3 - 0 I had turned off the television because I was very sure that Inter Milan would win and be the runner up of the group. This is the second time in a row Barcelona have dropped into the Europa League, after last season they also suffered the same fate.
I just stop to watch it after intermilan has been scoring the second goal to the plzen. The worst achievement by xavi. Why the hell people are still calling him as a good coach. that doesn't even make sense to see that. I remember when some barcelona's players were mocking that wanted to buy them all just like kounde. This guy was mocking chelsea and thiago was doing the same once he was seeing barcelona can't achieve the full points against intermilan.
Just caused by lewandoski became top scorer in the la liga and it doesn't mean the club will get trophies. Top scorer was nothing if your team was not even winning a single trophy.  Grin
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October 27, 2022, 11:14:46 AM
Management that is not too good actually has been felt from the previous few seasons but it is getting better in my opinion. Barcelona's problem is quite complicated right now so we can't really blame just one party because of course something like this has become a common mistake.
It is also difficult for them to change management now because of course this is still related to financial conditions.
I don't know what's wrong with Barcelona's management, I think it's good as expected but the results of his campaign this season are not very impressive. Barcelona failed to advance to the last 16 of the Champions League actually not because they don't have good management, it's because 3 out of 4 teams in the group are strong teams and I think people shouldn't ignore that.

The problem is not as complicated as I think, I really see things differently from their performance in Laliga where Barcelona are able to maintain a consistent game with only 3 points away from the leader of the table. This season's Champions League is difficult for Barcelona, ​​the same may be recognized by all the teams in the group but if Barcelona are ready on all fronts then the result may not be the same.
Maybe because they are not mentally ready to face higher pressures. Because certainly the pressure in La Liga and the Champions League will be different. Overall Barcelona are better than last season, yes I see that is an improvement even though they still can't talk much and make it to the last 16 in the Champions League. They still need to process to create the team they want, because it will not be instant when creating a team like that.
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October 27, 2022, 11:14:16 AM
Does anyone have the same view that the Europa League is now more exciting than the Champions League because now many big clubs are even getting lost in the Europa League after being knocked out of the Champions League. Now there are Barcelona and Juventus who will soon follow Manchester United and Arsenal.

Barcelona, who spent a lot of money in the transfer market last season, couldn't show consistent changes, now there is La Liga that they can't let go. Even then it feels difficult because Real Madrid will always defend.
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October 27, 2022, 11:14:05 AM
It really was a tough group. Barcelona is a better team than Inter, but it isn't sensational that they are not going through to the knockouts.
Last year it was Benfica that was ahead of them (with Bayern topping the group once again) and that was something that a club of such stature should be avoiding.

They will be one of the favorites to win the EL for sure, and that was not the case last season.
Barcelona did have a chance to surprise us all after they previously appeared surprising at the end of last season, many said that Xavi had managed to rebuild a capable squad especially after Lewa arrival to the camp nou but in fact now everything has been refuted after barcelona returned to UEL, lost competing with teams as big as Inter Milan and Munich I don't think can be the reason for Barcelona's failure because so far Barcelona is not a mediocre team so far, I think maybe the current failure is a lesson for xavi to continue to improve Barcelona so that it can return to being a champions league competitor and also La Liga later.
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October 27, 2022, 11:13:06 AM
I didn't expect Barcelona to win anyway, I didn't specify who would win, yes you are right. However, Bayern Munich was the side that scored the most goals in the match, predicting that there would be many goals in the match. Thus, Barcelona said goodbye to the champions league a little early. The Inter match was very good, I watched it towards the end, Lukaku came back from injury and he looks really in form. He's a very productive striker for Inter if he doesn't get injured again.
Many people do not believe about the end result of Barcelona's struggle this season in the Champions League after they spent a lot of money to strengthen his team this season. They have quality players but the results don't prove they are good in the competition, but this is something that is common in the most difficult competitions. However, I'm not really happy because now Laliga only leaves 1 representative in the Champions League who has qualified for the round of 16, namely Real Madrid because Barcelona, ​​Atletico Madrid and Sevilla have failed.

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October 27, 2022, 11:00:57 AM
You're right, I believe it's time for management to stop showing Xavi any respect and take necessary action by firing him. It is clear that he is unable to guide the team to any success. Barcelona's reputation is fading daily. It is inappropriate for such a club. Let the management get  a new manager as soon as we can. Barcelona is now not on the same level as Bayern Munich, I never thought they could beat Bayern Munich.

Lawandosky, meanwhile, decided where to go. He ought to be used to it by now. Not even him can save Barcelona.
Xavi's enthusiasm when he managed to bring Barcelona back to the championship track last season is still big enough now that they really don't see anything else.
But with their current record of 2 times in the Europa League there should be no reason to keep worshiping him even though he can be said to be still quite good in La Liga, but his current achievements are still a setback and no different from last season.
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October 27, 2022, 10:59:32 AM
It really was a tough group. Barcelona is a better team than Inter, but it isn't sensational that they are not going through to the knockouts.
Last year it was Benfica that was ahead of them (with Bayern topping the group once again) and that was something that a club of such stature should be avoiding.

They will be one of the favorites to win the EL for sure, and that was not the case last season.
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