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August 25, 2023, 12:37:19 AM
I also see Manchester City as the clear favorite, but I don't think it's right to say that now and my other favorites are Arsenal and Bayern Munich. Arsenal are about to turn into a better team than last season. Harry Kane and Kim Min-jae can bring Bayern Munich back to their old days. I think the squad depth and quality of teams like PSG, Real Madrid and Barcelona are not enough to be successful in this division. Of course, it's not right to talk about these things now, but I think that's the outlook for now. Also, I'm curious about Napoli and Osimhen's performance, they were great last season. I wonder if they will be able to maintain the same consistency this season.
Real Madrid were champions of the Champions League two seasons ago, even when they were not so favored because their player material was old enough for that time but they answered doubts that they were kings in the Champions League, and with current player material such as how their midfielder Jude Bellingham is adapting so quickly, it seems unreasonable to underestimate them, and where this season will be the last season for their coach Carlo Ancelotti at Real Madrid he will fight to give the best for the Spanish club. It is not for any club to underestimate Real Madrid in the Champions League including Manchester City even though this English club has better player material.
Napoli in the Champions League will undergo a new return, Qualifying for the last 16 may not be an obstacle for them but getting to the quarterfinals like last season or even better will still be a question for this Italian club.
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August 25, 2023, 12:15:55 AM
I also see Manchester City as the clear favorite, but I don't think it's right to say that now and my other favorites are Arsenal and Bayern Munich. Arsenal are about to turn into a better team than last season. Harry Kane and Kim Min-jae can bring Bayern Munich back to their old days. I think the squad depth and quality of teams like PSG, Real Madrid and Barcelona are not enough to be successful in this division. Of course, it's not right to talk about these things now, but I think that's the outlook for now. Also, I'm curious about Napoli and Osimhen's performance, they were great last season. I wonder if they will be able to maintain the same consistency this season.
If you have Manchester City as champions league favourites, you must consider Real Madrid as your champions league favourites. You won't get all the players Manchester City had last season but you won't find them at Manchester City this season. Karim Benzema has left Real Madrid This may be why you don't consider Real Madrid among the Champions League favourites, but Real Madrid have made a number of changes in other positions despite not having appointed a replacement for Karim Benzema. With all the players that Real Madrid has so far, Real Madrid certainly has the potential to do well in the Champions League. Like last season, I will place Real Madrid as Champions League favorites this season as well.
Manchester City and Real Madrid are big clubs who are always the favorites to win the UCL, Manchester City success last season has again placed it as one of the favorite teams this season. Manchester City still have great squad depth despite a slight change in the transfer market, Gundogan departure has been replaced by the arrival of Kovacic, overall Guardiola current squad still places them as a team to watch out for in the UCL.

Real Madrid have no doubts about their quality, Benzema departure has left a void for a reliable goalscorer, but Bellingham's arrival has eased those worries with impressive performances in both of his La Liga games. The changes that have occurred in the Real Madrid squad will not greatly affect their performance in the UCL and La Liga, Real Madrid performance is still very consistent, they have had a new idol since Bellingham put on a good performance. I am not excluding Real Madrid in the race for the UCL title this season, Ancelotti team is still able to provide competition even without the presence of Benzema.
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August 25, 2023, 12:06:02 AM
The opportunity does exist for Manchester City to add another title in the Champions League this season, but it's still too early to talk about now because we haven't seen how all the teams that entered the Champions League will look like this season. There will definitely be surprises in the Champions League this season and all teams really have to work harder when competing in the Champions League because strong teams are not only in England, but also from other countries this season.
I've my nominations for clubs that exhibits good chances of lifting the trophy. However I will not disclosed that information yet, because we're yet to discover the performance from these competitive clubs, besides it's still early to decides the winner. When it comes to UEFA Champions League, I don’t expect these clubs to be reluctant in their performance, everyone wants the CL trophy which is up for grab from any elite competitive club. Like you said, Manchester City are the reigning champions, but I don't expect the cityzens to win two times in a row, it's impossible for an English club to do that,  because it would be that Pep Guardiola wants to repeat history.

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August 24, 2023, 10:59:58 PM
The opportunity does exist for Manchester City to add another title in the Champions League this season, but it's still too early to talk about now because we haven't seen how all the teams that entered the Champions League will look like this season. There will definitely be surprises in the Champions League this season and all teams really have to work harder when competing in the Champions League because strong teams are not only in England, but also from other countries this season.

I also see Manchester City as the clear favorite, but I don't think it's right to say that now and my other favorites are Arsenal and Bayern Munich. Arsenal are about to turn into a better team than last season. Harry Kane and Kim Min-jae can bring Bayern Munich back to their old days. I think the squad depth and quality of teams like PSG, Real Madrid and Barcelona are not enough to be successful in this division. Of course, it's not right to talk about these things now, but I think that's the outlook for now. Also, I'm curious about Napoli and Osimhen's performance, they were great last season. I wonder if they will be able to maintain the same consistency this season.
If you have Manchester City as champions league favourites, you must consider Real Madrid as your champions league favourites. You won't get all the players Manchester City had last season but you won't find them at Manchester City this season. Karim Benzema has left Real Madrid This may be why you don't consider Real Madrid among the Champions League favourites, but Real Madrid have made a number of changes in other positions despite not having appointed a replacement for Karim Benzema. With all the players that Real Madrid has so far, Real Madrid certainly has the potential to do well in the Champions League. Like last season, I will place Real Madrid as Champions League favorites this season as well.
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August 24, 2023, 10:24:02 PM
Molde was also attacking a lot to be honest. Nonetheless, Galatasaray ultimately triumphed due to their superior accuracy and goal conversion rate.  A good confident performance in the first leg and I believe they will carry the confidence forward in the second leg with one goal advantage.

Galatasaray got an important win against Molde. However, like everyone else, I didn't like Galatasaray's performance but the important thing was to win and Galatasaray did that. Also, the big teams are the ones that win even when they play badly. That's why it was more important to win this game than anything else. Galatasaray are a team that have a habit of playing in the Champions League. We've been away from this level because we've had a bit of a bad performance recently. I hope we can return to the Champions League with a lot of ambition and remind everyone of our glory days.

I would not mind how good or bad the overall performance is from galatasaray. As a bettor and winning against molde is more than enough to make me feel so happy with it. Molde was in a difficult position as it must be playing away with losing an aggregate against galatasaray.
The next game gonna happen in NEF stadyumu. It will be an easy game for galatasaray as long as the defenders keep perform consistently. The defensive line is the main weakness from galatasaray.
This club conceded so many goals due to the inconsistency from the defenders. The match against zalgiris was making me aware if galatasaray lack of good defenders at this moment.
The club just needs to repeat the same result as the first leg and galatasaray will be able to be qualified for UCL soon.
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August 24, 2023, 09:11:37 PM
Talking about favorites, we already know the team that will reach the important stages in UEFA Champions League this new season. You're absolutely right about picking Real Madrid, Manchester City, Barcelona and Bayern Munich. The Seria A clubs putting up stunning performance this season in UEFA CL, and other elite competitions. Last season, we had three clubs from Seria A that made it to three finals, and they all got defeated and went home without a single trophy. I guessed this season will be different one, expecting Inter, Juventus and Napoli to pulled a competitive race for UEFA Champions League this season.
Real Madrid have always been at the forefront of the Champions League trophy race, with many saying they are the kings of the Champions League. How could it not be, with 14 titles they won putting them in the top position as the club that won the most titles. In the second position there is the name AC Milan with 7 titles followed by Liverpool and Bayern Munich with 6 titles. Actually there are still many names that have won the Champions League, but over time their performance has declined and they are no longer even considered in the Champions League.
Real Madrid's reign as the champions league king will eventually be a thing of the past. That spot would be taken by another qualified team that is serious about winning the champions league. To carry out it in the future, I am seeing Manchester City. They have won the champions league for the first time, but before Pep Guardiola leaves Manchester City for another club, they will lift the champion league again.
I anticipate seeing teams like Manchester City, Bayern Munich, Barcelona, and AC Milan in the upcoming seasons as they fight for multiple chances to win the UEFA Champions title. As a result, Real Madrid won't always be considered the Champions League's king just because of their numerous victories in the eyes of many. The title of "King of the Champions League" would then pass to another club. 

Real Madrid won many titles in the Champions League for which they were called the kings of the Champions League. But currently we have seen Manchester City become champions last season only because of Pep Guardiola. Also this season maybe real madrid won't be in that position to be champion but manchester city will try hard to win uefa again. Moreover, both Barcelona and Bayern Munich are strong teams this season and have become even stronger with the transfer of their players.  However, it is difficult to predict which team will win the Champions League title in the coming season with many strong teams. But I think Real Madrid should not be looked at differently because they are called the king of the Champions League because they will also hope to do well this season. We have seen Real Madrid play the best in the Champions Leagues and they are strong enough to win the Champions League.
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August 24, 2023, 06:50:39 PM
Talking about favorites, we already know the team that will reach the important stages in UEFA Champions League this new season. You're absolutely right about picking Real Madrid, Manchester City, Barcelona and Bayern Munich. The Seria A clubs putting up stunning performance this season in UEFA CL, and other elite competitions. Last season, we had three clubs from Seria A that made it to three finals, and they all got defeated and went home without a single trophy. I guessed this season will be different one, expecting Inter, Juventus and Napoli to pulled a competitive race for UEFA Champions League this season.
Real Madrid have always been at the forefront of the Champions League trophy race, with many saying they are the kings of the Champions League. How could it not be, with 14 titles they won putting them in the top position as the club that won the most titles. In the second position there is the name AC Milan with 7 titles followed by Liverpool and Bayern Munich with 6 titles. Actually there are still many names that have won the Champions League, but over time their performance has declined and they are no longer even considered in the Champions League.
Real Madrid's reign as the champions league king will eventually be a thing of the past. That spot would be taken by another qualified team that is serious about winning the champions league. To carry out it in the future, I am seeing Manchester City. They have won the champions league for the first time, but before Pep Guardiola leaves Manchester City for another club, they will lift the champion league again.
I anticipate seeing teams like Manchester City, Bayern Munich, Barcelona, and AC Milan in the upcoming seasons as they fight for multiple chances to win the UEFA Champions title. As a result, Real Madrid won't always be considered the Champions League's king just because of their numerous victories in the eyes of many. The title of "King of the Champions League" would then pass to another club. 
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August 24, 2023, 06:32:22 PM
The opportunity does exist for Manchester City to add another title in the Champions League this season, but it's still too early to talk about now because we haven't seen how all the teams that entered the Champions League will look like this season. There will definitely be surprises in the Champions League this season and all teams really have to work harder when competing in the Champions League because strong teams are not only in England, but also from other countries this season.

I also see Manchester City as the clear favorite, but I don't think it's right to say that now and my other favorites are Arsenal and Bayern Munich. Arsenal are about to turn into a better team than last season. Harry Kane and Kim Min-jae can bring Bayern Munich back to their old days. I think the squad depth and quality of teams like PSG, Real Madrid and Barcelona are not enough to be successful in this division. Of course, it's not right to talk about these things now, but I think that's the outlook for now. Also, I'm curious about Napoli and Osimhen's performance, they were great last season. I wonder if they will be able to maintain the same consistency this season.
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August 24, 2023, 06:16:35 PM
The opportunity does exist for Manchester City to add another title in the Champions League this season, but it's still too early to talk about now because we haven't seen how all the teams that entered the Champions League will look like this season. There will definitely be surprises in the Champions League this season and all teams really have to work harder when competing in the Champions League because strong teams are not only in England, but also from other countries this season.
The big teams playing in the champions league this season have definitely prepared their best strength to be able to provide stronger competition in the grub phase matches later. In exactly 7 days, we will see the grub phase drawing being carried out and there is always a hellish grub or grub filled by big teams.

It's not just English league teams that are counted as strong teams in the Champions League, But teams from Serie A and also Laliga and the Bundesliga will be included in it. Barcelona, ​​Real Madrid, Manchester United and Manchester City as well Bayern Munich and Psg still have the same opportunities and all teams will show their best strength in the grub phase later.
English teams are mostly doing good in Champions League group rounds but after these things never been same like we have in last season few Italian sides were also at their best and Spanish teams are also having enough quality which is helping them for having better results this time we are going to have another good season from the Italian sides as well because in last season we have improved performance from them with all three finals were involved by Italian sides now they are having changes which will give them positive change for the better results.

Bayern Munich is seasoned team in Champions League and their performance never been bad with this season is surely going to be interesting for them as well PSG is surely still finding their rhythm for the better results, hopefully things will be also improved for them and their success with Mbappé is going to stay here for another season.

I was thinking the same way about the English teams and I think the teams in the premier league usually got much better performance than other teams even if they spent more money. The reason is mostly because of the quality of the league we see in the French league just PSG is investing and spending money Also they don't have a good competitor there while in the premier league, there is a close race and all the teams are racing for the champions league ticket which can make them ready for this tournament.
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August 24, 2023, 05:53:29 PM
If Real get Mbappe, then Real-Bayern-City will be the favorites (maybe in that order due to the KDB injury). With PSG everything is clear, but why do you underestimate Bayern? They got Kane and their lineup looks balanced.
As for Mbappe, who can greatly change the balance of power, it remains to wait 6 days to find out where he will spend the season. PSG's plans to sell him for 250 million caused nothing but laughter in Madrid.

Real Madrid laughing over it is a show of disregard and disrespect to PSG. At least if the price is too much for them, they can negotiate about it with them instead of replying with laughter. That money might be way too big since it’s far above his market value but for a player like Mbappe, he’s worth any price being slated for him currently. I just imagine the so much confidence and wins he’ll bring into the Real Madrid team which is worth more than the money PSG is asking for. It is clear that PSG just want to reap high profit from Mbappe and I see nothing wrong in that. They’ve groomed the player well and given him all he needed while staying at the club with them all this years. They should also reap from his benefits before leaving the club.
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August 24, 2023, 05:49:16 PM

Of course, Galatasaray will have very little chance in the Champions League, even in the group stage. I don't even think that they will get further. It would probably be good for them if they could stay in the Europa League, where they might have a chance to qualify for the final. Nothing good awaits them in the Champions League.
Agree with you, but we don't need to underestimate Galatasaray before getting proof of their performance in the group phase later. Indeed, Galatasaray's chances in the Champions League are not as good as Europe's top teams, but they can be a threat to anyone who underestimates them throughout the match. At least Galatasaray can provide good competition for the Champions League this season if they do qualify for the group stages.

While the same thing seems to be felt by PSV, Copenhagen, and several other teams that excel in the playoffs. All of these teams seem unable to survive in the group stages to qualify for the round of 16, but you never know what surprises await them.

to be honest i still don't understand why the turkey teams are not teams with great financial power and performance in european competitions, for example in the champions league the turkish teams haven't gotten far, i don't even know if any turkey team has managed to win the european champions league for the last 20 years or if they ever won the european champions league, I googled it and didn't see anything about the great teams in turkey having managed to win the european champions league, so i must assume they never won the european champions league european champions league, but i wonder why turkey teams are not on the same level with other teams from big european countries when turkey is a rich country?

my only assumption is that the government of turkey does not pay much attention to soccer, if they create more good policies that facilitate the development of soccer then Turkish teams would have more money, because what I have seen is that the very skilled players that go to turkey, they go when there are no other better options in other big clubs in europe, i.e. the turkish league is a bit similar to the arab league, they don't attract many good young players who are in a great european team, it is necessary that the guys who manage soccer see this and change this scenario



the second leg games will be very unpredictable, with the favorites on paper being in a bad situation, braga for example won in the first leg by a very small goal difference, galatasarey is the same thing. psv got a draw, so these 3 teams have great risks of not being able to pass to another stage, they will have very difficult games in the second leg
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August 24, 2023, 05:48:58 PM
The top 16 will still be filled with strong European teams. those who enter the group stage must try hard to get a position in the last 16. It would be even more exciting if a team that wasn't the favorite could become a dark horse in the last 16. This would represent well-deserved competition for other teams beyond the big favorites to qualify.

is it possible that a team from the Italian League will dominate the Champions League this season, or is it possible that Madrid's competition with Man City will continue? Munich and PSG are also likely to have difficulties this season.

If Real get Mbappe, then Real-Bayern-City will be the favorites (maybe in that order due to the KDB injury). With PSG everything is clear, but why do you underestimate Bayern? They got Kane and their lineup looks balanced.
As for Mbappe, who can greatly change the balance of power, it remains to wait 6 days to find out where he will spend the season. PSG's plans to sell him for 250 million caused nothing but laughter in Madrid.
With the current squad at Real Madrid, I think they are one of the favorites alongside Bayern and Manchester United to win this season's UEFA Champions League title
Mbappe's reported move to Real Madrid this summer I think might not happen anytime soon because of the fact that the France national team captain is in advanced talks with the PSG management to extend his contract with the club. However, Real Madrid current squad has the ability to win the European title without signing Mbappe
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August 24, 2023, 05:47:41 PM
Molde was also attacking a lot to be honest. Nonetheless, Galatasaray ultimately triumphed due to their superior accuracy and goal conversion rate.  A good confident performance in the first leg and I believe they will carry the confidence forward in the second leg with one goal advantage.

Galatasaray got an important win against Molde. However, like everyone else, I didn't like Galatasaray's performance but the important thing was to win and Galatasaray did that. Also, the big teams are the ones that win even when they play badly. That's why it was more important to win this game than anything else. Galatasaray are a team that have a habit of playing in the Champions League. We've been away from this level because we've had a bit of a bad performance recently. I hope we can return to the Champions League with a lot of ambition and remind everyone of our glory days.
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August 24, 2023, 05:32:46 PM
The top 16 will still be filled with strong European teams. those who enter the group stage must try hard to get a position in the last 16. It would be even more exciting if a team that wasn't the favorite could become a dark horse in the last 16. This would represent well-deserved competition for other teams beyond the big favorites to qualify.

is it possible that a team from the Italian League will dominate the Champions League this season, or is it possible that Madrid's competition with Man City will continue? Munich and PSG are also likely to have difficulties this season.

If Real get Mbappe, then Real-Bayern-City will be the favorites (maybe in that order due to the KDB injury). With PSG everything is clear, but why do you underestimate Bayern? They got Kane and their lineup looks balanced.
As for Mbappe, who can greatly change the balance of power, it remains to wait 6 days to find out where he will spend the season. PSG's plans to sell him for 250 million caused nothing but laughter in Madrid.
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August 24, 2023, 03:51:10 PM
Agree with you, but we don't need to underestimate Galatasaray before getting proof of their performance in the group phase later. Indeed, Galatasaray's chances in the Champions League are not as good as Europe's top teams, but they can be a threat to anyone who underestimates them throughout the match. At least Galatasaray can provide good competition for the Champions League this season if they do qualify for the group stages.
Yep. Don't underestimate any team in UCL, we often got a surprise by small teams in this competition. Although those small teams have no many popular players, it doesn't mean they are easy to be defeated. Galatasaray actually has several popular players in their attacking line, I'm sure no team will underestimate them. Although Galatasaray isn't a favorite team, but they are not impossible to make difficulties for any team to get a win and not qualify for the next round.

While the same thing seems to be felt by PSV, Copenhagen, and several other teams that excel in the playoffs. All of these teams seem unable to survive in the group stages to qualify for the round of 16, but you never know what surprises await them.
In theory those small teams seem impossible to survive or qualify for the next round. However, it is a football match, there is always a chance for a surprise. A strong team can be defeated by a smaller team if they can't play as as a cohesive (solid) team.

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August 24, 2023, 03:47:58 PM
We always have an order of which teams are the biggest favorites in this competition, Real Madrid is always the name that has a place in the favorites, Manchester City also has a place there, teams like Bayern Munich, Barcelona and others will also be there, especially lately we have seen many clubs improve.
The clubs from Serie A are also now starting to pose a real threat after a few seasons where they seemed to be drowning. The peak of last season they could occupy a strategic place in the final round, and one of them INter Milan who managed to penetrate the final party.
Talking about favorites, we already know the team that will reach the important stages in UEFA Champions League this new season. You're absolutely right about picking Real Madrid, Manchester City, Barcelona and Bayern Munich. The Seria A clubs putting up stunning performance this season in UEFA CL, and other elite competitions. Last season, we had three clubs from Seria A that made it to three finals, and they all got defeated and went home without a single trophy. I guessed this season will be different one, expecting Inter, Juventus and Napoli to pulled a competitive race for UEFA Champions League this season.
Real Madrid have always been at the forefront of the Champions League trophy race, with many saying they are the kings of the Champions League. How could it not be, with 14 titles they won putting them in the top position as the club that won the most titles. In the second position there is the name AC Milan with 7 titles followed by Liverpool and Bayern Munich with 6 titles. Actually there are still many names that have won the Champions League, but over time their performance has declined and they are no longer even considered in the Champions League.
For the team that managed to collect the most Champions League trophies, maybe Real Madrid is on top but in the last few seasons Real Madrid can't be expected to win the Champions League.
This season, seeing Real Madrid's progress improve, there is hope of being able to fight for the trophy again, even though Real Madrid will have to compete with teams from leagues like Mancester City.
Pep Guardiola is very excited or very sure that the team he coaches can win the Champions League again and this will make it difficult for Real Madrid when they will compete for the Champions League.
If you say Real madrid had a better performance it seems a little wrong and if you see after losing Benzema Madrid was not able to perform optimally to give a better performance than last season and I doubt if you really really favor Manchstr city even if only because of haaland but does not mean to have a guarantee to be able to get back to the champion league title.
This season many club have seen their performance decline in their domestic league competition, they look a little bad, but if for the champions league there is no certainty how this top flight club can perform even better.
But I just hope that every season there are always new clubs that can get champions league trophy like Arsenal.
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August 24, 2023, 03:24:43 PM
It's not their point to win the UCL title, that's not the goal. If they get into the group stages, and play there, it means they are going to make a lot of money from it, this is a club that worths 200 million euros, so getting 20-30 million euro in a single season is a huge amount of income. Think of them making it to the group stages every single year, they would grow like crazy and stay there forever.

The "big" clubs of Europe all have that advantage, they went to group stages every single year constantly, and made money, and grew better and better and eventually stayed there. This is the way to get better, and they are aiming to get some money and pay all the expenses all the season with one more win. If they get just one more win, all of their expenses are paid.
So, if you look at the descriptions, all teams want to target the UCL Trophy because in this case they are able to make historical records for the club. For example PSG where they target the UCL Trophy every season but they fail miserably. They don't even think about money too much in this regard because they have a larger income stream from other sectors.

The Champions League is the most prestigious league and every team wants to win a trophy to prove to the world that they are the strongest team that season. Big teams who have strong finances certainly don't think about money in this competition.
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August 24, 2023, 03:17:25 PM
It's not their point to win the UCL title, that's not the goal. If they get into the group stages, and play there, it means they are going to make a lot of money from it, this is a club that worths 200 million euros, so getting 20-30 million euro in a single season is a huge amount of income. Think of them making it to the group stages every single year, they would grow like crazy and stay there forever.

The "big" clubs of Europe all have that advantage, they went to group stages every single year constantly, and made money, and grew better and better and eventually stayed there. This is the way to get better, and they are aiming to get some money and pay all the expenses all the season with one more win. If they get just one more win, all of their expenses are paid.

You make an excellent point, and the cash generated by qualifying for the Champions League group stage is sufficient for them to put in all of their efforts and still return the following season after season. The Champions League is a competition for the best clubs in Europe, and if they are allowed to compete in it, they have worked far more than other clubs who will only be able to compete in the Europa League.

Even if I were in their situation, I would do the same thing and always return for the money because I know that no matter how hard I work, I will not make it to the final round of the tournament. It's all okay because they can still earn money by qualifying for the competition. Given their team's calibre, I won't mind them always coming for the money rather than the competition. 
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August 24, 2023, 02:58:25 PM
It's not their point to win the UCL title, that's not the goal. If they get into the group stages, and play there, it means they are going to make a lot of money from it, this is a club that worths 200 million euros, so getting 20-30 million euro in a single season is a huge amount of income. Think of them making it to the group stages every single year, they would grow like crazy and stay there forever.

The "big" clubs of Europe all have that advantage, they went to group stages every single year constantly, and made money, and grew better and better and eventually stayed there. This is the way to get better, and they are aiming to get some money and pay all the expenses all the season with one more win. If they get just one more win, all of their expenses are paid.

Only the costs are much higher than the revenue from being knocked out of the Champions League. Imagine that the team still scored enough goals in the group stage, it is after all necessary to give a bonus to those players who scored. There are a lot of other factors, staff, flights for them, etc., there is probably even more spent there, despite the fact that the club is small in terms of importance
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August 24, 2023, 02:38:57 PM

Of course, Galatasaray will have very little chance in the Champions League, even in the group stage. I don't even think that they will get further. It would probably be good for them if they could stay in the Europa League, where they might have a chance to qualify for the final. Nothing good awaits them in the Champions League.
Agree with you, but we don't need to underestimate Galatasaray before getting proof of their performance in the group phase later. Indeed, Galatasaray's chances in the Champions League are not as good as Europe's top teams, but they can be a threat to anyone who underestimates them throughout the match. At least Galatasaray can provide good competition for the Champions League this season if they do qualify for the group stages.

While the same thing seems to be felt by PSV, Copenhagen, and several other teams that excel in the playoffs. All of these teams seem unable to survive in the group stages to qualify for the round of 16, but you never know what surprises await them.
Galatasaray looks really weak as a squad compared to other teams in the UEFA champions league, this has always been the case. This year, the squad is deeper and we are in the second year of formation, with the same coach and players who left with almost the same staff. Galatasaray, but the bone squad still continues. If it comes out in the group stages, of course, it will be very good, but I think the probability is a little low, depending on the next opponents, if there is an average group, Galatasaray may be lucky for the last sixteen.
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