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August 24, 2023, 02:10:15 PM
It's not their point to win the UCL title, that's not the goal. If they get into the group stages, and play there, it means they are going to make a lot of money from it, this is a club that worths 200 million euros, so getting 20-30 million euro in a single season is a huge amount of income. Think of them making it to the group stages every single year, they would grow like crazy and stay there forever.

The "big" clubs of Europe all have that advantage, they went to group stages every single year constantly, and made money, and grew better and better and eventually stayed there. This is the way to get better, and they are aiming to get some money and pay all the expenses all the season with one more win. If they get just one more win, all of their expenses are paid.

You are right mate, money is the main motivation of some teams like Galatasaray and others in the Champions League. The more matches they win and the higher the round they reach, the more they earn in that season.

Here's a little insight into it: UEFA Champions League Prize money


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Prize money

As of 2021–22, the fixed amount of prize money paid to participating clubs is as follows.[88]

Play-off round: €5,000,000
Base fee for group stage: €15,640,000
Group match victory: €2,800,000
Group match draw: €900,000
Round of 16: €9,600,000
Quarter-finals: €10,600,000
Semi-finals: €12,500,000
Runners-up: €15,500,000
Champions: €20,000,000

This means that, at best, a club can earn €85,140,000 of prize money under this structure, not counting shares of the qualifying rounds, play-off round or the market pool.
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August 24, 2023, 01:55:34 PM
Agree with you, but we don't need to underestimate Galatasaray before getting proof of their performance in the group phase later. Indeed, Galatasaray's chances in the Champions League are not as good as Europe's top teams, but they can be a threat to anyone who underestimates them throughout the match. At least Galatasaray can provide good competition for the Champions League this season if they do qualify for the group stages.

While the same thing seems to be felt by PSV, Copenhagen, and several other teams that excel in the playoffs. All of these teams seem unable to survive in the group stages to qualify for the round of 16, but you never know what surprises await them.

The top 16 will still be filled with strong European teams. those who enter the group stage must try hard to get a position in the last 16. It would be even more exciting if a team that wasn't the favorite could become a dark horse in the last 16. This would represent well-deserved competition for other teams beyond the big favorites to qualify.

is it possible that a team from the Italian League will dominate the Champions League this season, or is it possible that Madrid's competition with Man City will continue? Munich and PSG are also likely to have difficulties this season.
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August 24, 2023, 01:42:14 PM
We always have an order of which teams are the biggest favorites in this competition, Real Madrid is always the name that has a place in the favorites, Manchester City also has a place there, teams like Bayern Munich, Barcelona and others will also be there, especially lately we have seen many clubs improve.
The clubs from Serie A are also now starting to pose a real threat after a few seasons where they seemed to be drowning. The peak of last season they could occupy a strategic place in the final round, and one of them INter Milan who managed to penetrate the final party.
Talking about favorites, we already know the team that will reach the important stages in UEFA Champions League this new season. You're absolutely right about picking Real Madrid, Manchester City, Barcelona and Bayern Munich. The Seria A clubs putting up stunning performance this season in UEFA CL, and other elite competitions. Last season, we had three clubs from Seria A that made it to three finals, and they all got defeated and went home without a single trophy. I guessed this season will be different one, expecting Inter, Juventus and Napoli to pulled a competitive race for UEFA Champions League this season.
Real Madrid have always been at the forefront of the Champions League trophy race, with many saying they are the kings of the Champions League. How could it not be, with 14 titles they won putting them in the top position as the club that won the most titles. In the second position there is the name AC Milan with 7 titles followed by Liverpool and Bayern Munich with 6 titles. Actually there are still many names that have won the Champions League, but over time their performance has declined and they are no longer even considered in the Champions League.
For the team that managed to collect the most Champions League trophies, maybe Real Madrid is on top but in the last few seasons Real Madrid can't be expected to win the Champions League.
This season, seeing Real Madrid's progress improve, there is hope of being able to fight for the trophy again, even though Real Madrid will have to compete with teams from leagues like Mancester City.
Pep Guardiola is very excited or very sure that the team he coaches can win the Champions League again and this will make it difficult for Real Madrid when they will compete for the Champions League.
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August 24, 2023, 01:32:00 PM
It's not their point to win the UCL title, that's not the goal. If they get into the group stages, and play there, it means they are going to make a lot of money from it, this is a club that worths 200 million euros, so getting 20-30 million euro in a single season is a huge amount of income. Think of them making it to the group stages every single year, they would grow like crazy and stay there forever.

The "big" clubs of Europe all have that advantage, they went to group stages every single year constantly, and made money, and grew better and better and eventually stayed there. This is the way to get better, and they are aiming to get some money and pay all the expenses all the season with one more win. If they get just one more win, all of their expenses are paid.
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August 24, 2023, 01:23:52 PM

Of course, Galatasaray will have very little chance in the Champions League, even in the group stage. I don't even think that they will get further. It would probably be good for them if they could stay in the Europa League, where they might have a chance to qualify for the final. Nothing good awaits them in the Champions League.
Agree with you, but we don't need to underestimate Galatasaray before getting proof of their performance in the group phase later. Indeed, Galatasaray's chances in the Champions League are not as good as Europe's top teams, but they can be a threat to anyone who underestimates them throughout the match. At least Galatasaray can provide good competition for the Champions League this season if they do qualify for the group stages.

While the same thing seems to be felt by PSV, Copenhagen, and several other teams that excel in the playoffs. All of these teams seem unable to survive in the group stages to qualify for the round of 16, but you never know what surprises await them.
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August 24, 2023, 01:23:36 PM
Galatasaray barely won the match against Molde. Galatasaray managed to win by 3-2 against Molde.  Molde was better at start of the match. From the first minute Molde continued to press Galatasaray defense, Molde had many goal attempts. Yunus Akgün assisted Icardi's magnificent goal in the 29th minute. I feel Galatasaray is getting closer to go to the UEFA Champions League group stage. Because we know how Galatasaray fans will make Molde FK under pressure whole match in the second leg match that Galatasaray will play at home.
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August 24, 2023, 01:15:53 PM
Galatasaray are really strong in terms of attacking line. They can score goals very easily thanks to their quality attackers. Especially Icardi is something else lately. He was very impressive last season so Galatasaray wanted to sign him permanently. He is really worth paying that much money because he still continues from where he left.

His goal by a half volley reminded me of a similar goal he scored in the Turkish Super League also.  Smiley   He has found himself again here and the fans love him a lot at the same time.

When it comes to the defending of Galatasaray that's the problematic part. Even when Torreira returns there could still be problems because the defense line isn't fully reliable.
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August 24, 2023, 01:04:49 PM
We always have an order of which teams are the biggest favorites in this competition, Real Madrid is always the name that has a place in the favorites, Manchester City also has a place there, teams like Bayern Munich, Barcelona and others will also be there, especially lately we have seen many clubs improve.
The clubs from Serie A are also now starting to pose a real threat after a few seasons where they seemed to be drowning. The peak of last season they could occupy a strategic place in the final round, and one of them INter Milan who managed to penetrate the final party.
Talking about favorites, we already know the team that will reach the important stages in UEFA Champions League this new season. You're absolutely right about picking Real Madrid, Manchester City, Barcelona and Bayern Munich. The Seria A clubs putting up stunning performance this season in UEFA CL, and other elite competitions. Last season, we had three clubs from Seria A that made it to three finals, and they all got defeated and went home without a single trophy. I guessed this season will be different one, expecting Inter, Juventus and Napoli to pulled a competitive race for UEFA Champions League this season.
If you look at the preparation of elite clubs this season, Arsenal, PSG, AC Milan can also become strong competitors and challengers in the UCL. If you don't join the Hell group then the journey of these clubs will be relatively easier, but in UCL the mentality of the squad is very influential.

Sure enough, changes in club ownership and management meant that the big teams were no longer on the favourites. The decline in performance due to a lack of quality players at the club certainly puts the club in a difficult competitive situation.
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August 24, 2023, 01:02:37 PM
This is a repeat result from last year because at that time PSV can able to playing draw at Rangers home ground with scores 2-2 but on the second leg PSV have to lose with slim score and it makes PSV have to failed to advances to the next round so for now PSV position still not secured because possibly those results will be repeated again but indeed PSV performance this season were more better compared to last season so lets see whether they can able to overcomes Rangers on the second leg or not


Yeah, I know what happened. Last year's Rangers won 1-0.
And I hope they don't shit the bed like last year. A donkey does not stumble twice on the same stone.
But definitely, more changes are needed in the next match against Rangers.
The defense must be more organized. They made many mistakes.
Second legs, no excuse to lose.
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August 24, 2023, 12:44:33 PM
Molde FK almost managed to make the match end in a draw, but Galasataray managed to maximize the opportunities that existed in the final minutes of the game. The second leg of the two teams still have the same chance of qualifying but Galasataray certainly doesn't want to fail in front of their own fans later because it won't be fun, so I think Galasataray will qualify for the champions league group phase, because Molde FK is facing a lot of pressure harder in the second leg later than in the first match. Galasataray only needs a draw or win with a narrow score, which is enough for them to compete in the Champions League.
Galasataray is really in high spirit and that is expected from a Turkish top team that have not done so well internationally in recent years. I see them making impact this season if they maintain their scoring and resilience. 

19th week matches played in the Norwegian League. The Turkish League has just started. Galatasaray were therefore at a bit of a disadvantage compared to their opponent and didn't play superior for most of the match. But they won the match because they had experienced players. Mertens, Icardi, Muslera push the team in such matches. Last night's match was one of those matches. Icardi came on the scene unexpectedly and gave Galatasaray a boost with a great goal. The match in Istanbul will undoubtedly be a very exciting one. Galatasaray have the scoring advantage. Now they will want to win the second leg with the strong support of their fans.

Galatasaray victory in the first leg, of course, will make Galatasaray able to play more comfortably in the second leg later. The reason is, in the second leg later Galatasaray will also play at home and moreover, Galatasaray position has won on aggregate with a score of 3-2. With such good results, Galatasaray doesn't need to keep pushing to win in the second leg later. Because of course, Galatasaray still has another focus for good results as well in the domestic league. So yes, it is quite plausible that maybe Galatasaray will not force to win in the second leg later, because a draw is enough for Galatasaray to qualify.
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August 24, 2023, 12:25:38 PM
We always have an order of which teams are the biggest favorites in this competition, Real Madrid is always the name that has a place in the favorites, Manchester City also has a place there, teams like Bayern Munich, Barcelona and others will also be there, especially lately we have seen many clubs improve.
The clubs from Serie A are also now starting to pose a real threat after a few seasons where they seemed to be drowning. The peak of last season they could occupy a strategic place in the final round, and one of them INter Milan who managed to penetrate the final party.
Talking about favorites, we already know the team that will reach the important stages in UEFA Champions League this new season. You're absolutely right about picking Real Madrid, Manchester City, Barcelona and Bayern Munich. The Seria A clubs putting up stunning performance this season in UEFA CL, and other elite competitions. Last season, we had three clubs from Seria A that made it to three finals, and they all got defeated and went home without a single trophy. I guessed this season will be different one, expecting Inter, Juventus and Napoli to pulled a competitive race for UEFA Champions League this season.
Real Madrid have always been at the forefront of the Champions League trophy race, with many saying they are the kings of the Champions League. How could it not be, with 14 titles they won putting them in the top position as the club that won the most titles. In the second position there is the name AC Milan with 7 titles followed by Liverpool and Bayern Munich with 6 titles. Actually there are still many names that have won the Champions League, but over time their performance has declined and they are no longer even considered in the Champions League.
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August 24, 2023, 12:11:33 PM
Maccabi Haifa against Young Boys ended goalless and maybe this was the most boring match among the others last night. Maccabi Haifa who was favored to win but instead appeared disappointing in front of his fans. Perhaps what stood out the most in this match was the sheer number of yellow cards received by players from the two clubs. Meanwhile, the other match between Braga and Panathinaikos was at least quite exciting, although from the start I suspected that Braga would win this match. Panathinaikos had caught up in the injury time minute but the 2 goal advantage from Braga was unable to catch up to Panathinaikos, so the first leg victory belonged to Braga.
About the match Maccabi Haifa vs Young Boys indeed it's clearly boring because since the beginning of match Young Boys only aiming draw result and it proven from their statistics that Young Boys had zero shot on target because they were too focus to their defense and i have to says their target were accomplished because Young Boys didn't lose at Maccabi Haifa home ground and second leg will be more easy for them because as a host Young Boys had good chances to beat Maccabi Haifa and eleminate them because at home Young Boys has impressive records that since september last year Young Boys had unbeatable status in all competitions so i am sure they will be more comfortable to playing and possibly will be the winner of this match
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August 24, 2023, 11:06:45 AM
We always have an order of which teams are the biggest favorites in this competition, Real Madrid is always the name that has a place in the favorites, Manchester City also has a place there, teams like Bayern Munich, Barcelona and others will also be there, especially lately we have seen many clubs improve.
The clubs from Serie A are also now starting to pose a real threat after a few seasons where they seemed to be drowning. The peak of last season they could occupy a strategic place in the final round, and one of them INter Milan who managed to penetrate the final party.
Talking about favorites, we already know the team that will reach the important stages in UEFA Champions League this new season. You're absolutely right about picking Real Madrid, Manchester City, Barcelona and Bayern Munich. The Seria A clubs putting up stunning performance this season in UEFA CL, and other elite competitions. Last season, we had three clubs from Seria A that made it to three finals, and they all got defeated and went home without a single trophy. I guessed this season will be different one, expecting Inter, Juventus and Napoli to pulled a competitive race for UEFA Champions League this season.
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August 24, 2023, 10:38:49 AM
In as much as it is too early to predict which club that'll win the UEFA Champions League competition this season, I think it is also worthy to note that not this season's Champions League competition will be different from that of last season and I don't expect Manchester City to breeze past every club they'll be meeting this season like the did in the last campaign.
Real Madrid is a stronger team now than last season and that's because of the quality that was added to the side by the signing of Jude Bellingham. Bayern Munich in the other hand has also recruited Harry Kane to their side meaning that they now have someone who can play the role of Robert Lewandowski in the club once more. it'll be a keenly contested one this season

IMO, I can't speculate too far because I can't confirm the strength and consistency map of each club that will take part in this competition. after all, the domestic league has just started, we can't even be sure of the consistency of each team mentioned in this post. Madrid had two good matches, but they have yet to find a comparable opponent to measure how strong the team is and how consistent the new arrivals are.

City, remains the strongest competitor for the opponents they will meet in this competition later. even though De Bruyne has been injured, they still have a substitute as another option. Bayern, now has a striker who can be counted on as a goal scorer. Tuchel will focus on his team's squad, to win various trophies including the Champions League competition.

Barcelona, ​​will try to be different with some of the new arrivals and at the same time their young players. their goal, to go as far as they can go. Seria A team, I don't know but they also have to be considered. it could be, if Napoli will appear far more competitive even though several of its players left in this summer's transfer window. likewise with Milan, Inter and others.
and yep, don't underestimate the several teams that have just returned to competing in this league. Arsenal and Manchester United will probably be able to tackle the more favored teams. Newcastle is no exception, Edie Howe's squad will participate in the competition to achieve the best results in this competition. well, I hope that the Champions League this time will offer and present exciting matches than in the previous competition.
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August 24, 2023, 09:38:36 AM
The opportunity does exist for Manchester City to add another title in the Champions League this season, but it's still too early to talk about now because we haven't seen how all the teams that entered the Champions League will look like this season. There will definitely be surprises in the Champions League this season and all teams really have to work harder when competing in the Champions League because strong teams are not only in England, but also from other countries this season.
Any team that competes in the Champions League is regarded as the strongest, most capable, and best-performing squad in its respective league. Since being eligible for the Champions League indicates that a team is among the champs in their league, none of them would think less of the other because they can compete and lift the Champions League trophy like the others.
Teams that haven't won the Champions League trophy in a while would like to make another attempt to do so this season, while those that haven't in the past would like to compete for the Champions League title(increasing the level of competition in the Champions League this year).  I can't wait to see how Manchester City and the rest would dig out their match result this time around
In as much as it is too early to predict which club that'll win the UEFA Champions League competition this season, I think it is also worthy to note that not this season's Champions League competition will be different from that of last season and I don't expect Manchester City to breeze past every club they'll be meeting this season like the did in the last campaign.
Real Madrid is a stronger team now than last season and that's because of the quality that was added to the side by the signing of Jude Bellingham. Bayern Munich in the other hand has also recruited Harry Kane to their side meaning that they now have someone who can play the role of Robert Lewandowski in the club once more. it'll be a keenly contested one this season
We always have an order of which teams are the biggest favorites in this competition, Real Madrid is always the name that has a place in the favorites, Manchester City also has a place there, teams like Bayern Munich, Barcelona and others will also be there, especially lately we have seen many clubs improve.
The clubs from Serie A are also now starting to pose a real threat after a few seasons where they seemed to be drowning. The peak of last season they could occupy a strategic place in the final round, and one of them INter Milan who managed to penetrate the final party.
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August 24, 2023, 07:34:16 AM
If Kevin De Bruyne, Jhon Stones, Bernardo Silva have to be sidelined until September, the Man City squad will automatically not be strengthened by these three players in the Champions League Group Phase. I think the only option now for Pep Guardiola is to add to his squad in the remaining transfer window, Guardiloa said that the Club will take an important decision to deal with the current situation. I think this is an indication that City will recruit new players, and of course they will find their target players easy.

I predict Man City without the presence of these three players in the UCL will be a little different, because the competition demands experienced players and has a winning mentality like them.

Ok but the Manchester City style is very challenging and players usually need quite some time to perfectly adapt to it. I remember when they bought Grealish for so much money and everyone expected him to be perfect from day 1, but that didn't happen. He really needed time to find his optimal performance level and also spend some time sitting on the bench at first. That's why transfers for crucial positions in such a team is not easily done and I wonder which players are available at all.
I heard a news that Barcelona wants to add Jao Chancelo to the team from Man City. If Barcelona can really add this player to the squad, the team's defense will be incredibly strong. I think that will create an opportunity to perform well in the Champions League.

It seems like Barcelona is serious about getting him and I think it is a good choice because he really is a good player. It's surprising me that his former clubs are not in it to keep him for long, and it was also said now that his price decreased significantly because Manchester City wants to get rid of him. If Barcelona can sign him for a low transfer fee and pay him a reasonable salary without getting into trouble, he would be a good choice and he has the quality to also help Barcelona in the Champions League games. But that is still one of the interesting questions how Barcelona will do in the CL.
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August 24, 2023, 06:11:00 AM
The opportunity does exist for Manchester City to add another title in the Champions League this season, but it's still too early to talk about now because we haven't seen how all the teams that entered the Champions League will look like this season. There will definitely be surprises in the Champions League this season and all teams really have to work harder when competing in the Champions League because strong teams are not only in England, but also from other countries this season.
Any team that competes in the Champions League is regarded as the strongest, most capable, and best-performing squad in its respective league. Since being eligible for the Champions League indicates that a team is among the champs in their league, none of them would think less of the other because they can compete and lift the Champions League trophy like the others.
Teams that haven't won the Champions League trophy in a while would like to make another attempt to do so this season, while those that haven't in the past would like to compete for the Champions League title(increasing the level of competition in the Champions League this year).  I can't wait to see how Manchester City and the rest would dig out their match result this time around
In as much as it is too early to predict which club that'll win the UEFA Champions League competition this season, I think it is also worthy to note that not this season's Champions League competition will be different from that of last season and I don't expect Manchester City to breeze past every club they'll be meeting this season like the did in the last campaign.
Real Madrid is a stronger team now than last season and that's because of the quality that was added to the side by the signing of Jude Bellingham. Bayern Munich in the other hand has also recruited Harry Kane to their side meaning that they now have someone who can play the role of Robert Lewandowski in the club once more. it'll be a keenly contested one this season
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August 24, 2023, 05:59:57 AM
Maccabi Haifa against Young Boys ended goalless and maybe this was the most boring match among the others last night. Maccabi Haifa who was favored to win but instead appeared disappointing in front of his fans. Perhaps what stood out the most in this match was the sheer number of yellow cards received by players from the two clubs. Meanwhile, the other match between Braga and Panathinaikos was at least quite exciting, although from the start I suspected that Braga would win this match. Panathinaikos had caught up in the injury time minute but the 2 goal advantage from Braga was unable to catch up to Panathinaikos, so the first leg victory belonged to Braga.

But from all of that, maybe Molde's match against Galatasaray was the most exciting and even the hosts took the lead in the early minutes. But not long ago Galatasaray outperformed the goal before halftime. Molde had hope in the second half and they managed to even the score 2-2, but towards the end of the match came a dramatic victory for the guest Galatasaray who scored his 3rd goal and at the same time closed the victory for them in this first leg away.
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August 24, 2023, 05:59:32 AM
The opportunity does exist for Manchester City to add another title in the Champions League this season, but it's still too early to talk about now because we haven't seen how all the teams that entered the Champions League will look like this season. There will definitely be surprises in the Champions League this season and all teams really have to work harder when competing in the Champions League because strong teams are not only in England, but also from other countries this season.
Any team that competes in the Champions League is regarded as the strongest, most capable, and best-performing squad in its respective league. Since being eligible for the Champions League indicates that a team is among the champs in their league, none of them would think less of the other because they can compete and lift the Champions League trophy like the others.
Teams that haven't won the Champions League trophy in a while would like to make another attempt to do so this season, while those that haven't in the past would like to compete for the Champions League title(increasing the level of competition in the Champions League this year).  I can't wait to see how Manchester City and the rest would dig out their match result this time around
Now we are living in new era of the soccer which winning trophy is never been easy without huge investments and here all clubs are not lucky enough to have success and investments as they wanted in recent time mostly clubs which are having quality players and enough sources are able to secure their success but still UEFA Champions League is one of the prestigious event in soccer world and best teams from the Europe are participating in this event.

This season again is going to be very competitive because situation is very interesting with many top teams are having quality players which are creating good entertainment for the title race even still many pundits are surely Manchester City and Bayern Munich are going to be tough teams to watch but few clubs from Italy and Spain are also going to have surprises because they are also on better run and improved performance.
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August 24, 2023, 05:54:35 AM
I think it is still early to bet on Champions League matches from this round. I'm speaking for myself at least because there are still so many teams that I don't have any idea about. I tried to bet on such teams in the past and it didn't end up well for me.  Grin  It feels safer to bet on the matches of more known teams than these for me.

This is the last season with the current Champions League format indeed. I wish it didn't change because I find the new one ridiculous. You are in a league-like system but you don't even play with all the teams there. I don't know how fair this system is going to be but let's see. If it doesn't work out well they would return to the previous version I guess.
It is always advisable to only bet on the teams that you know their capability. So that is the reason some people do not bet in the early stage of every competition until they have seen all the teams play before they know their abilities. But I still want you to understand one thing which I consider very well whenever I am betting on the Champions League games. That thing I want you to consider is that every team that qualifies for champions League is a good team, especially if they are from the top countries of Europe such as England, Italy, Spain, Germany
So, it is not right for you to underrate any team in the Champions League, put this into practice when predicting your matches.
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