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August 18, 2023, 03:01:13 PM

I think the Super Cup is a very important game. UCL champion on one side, UEL champion on the other. Both teams made a very good final. Sevilla endured well and unluckily had to give up on penalties. Manchester City start the season by winning an important trophy. Pep Guardiola once again deserves congratulations for winning the Super Cup.

Yes, I mean we are getting flooded with so many worthless games anyway year round whether that is nationally or internationally, that is why I think that the Super Cup is one of those unnecessary games that makes more sense than others. Is it really necessary? No it isn't but at least there is some reasoning behind letting those two winners of those two trophies play against each other.

For this coming Champions League season I am curious to see how many games Haaland will score during the group stage alone. He is a great player and very grounded. Hopefully he can continue his marvelous journey.
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August 18, 2023, 02:00:01 PM
Playoff period will definitely be great and I am guessing that teams will have a bit of easier period as well. Anyone who loses here goes to groups of europa league if I am not wrong, if that's true then teams will be happy because they will be able to fight at either champions league groups or europa groups but their European competition story still continues instead of going back home.

Obvious the payment structure is very very different, while one of them gets 10+ million, even 20+ million considering all the games, the other is getting like 3-5 million instead. That is why I am sure that teams will try to win no matter what, they will put all their great players as much in as they possibly could to get that win, but if not, it is not end of the world.
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August 18, 2023, 01:25:08 PM
About Haaland in the Champions League, I can say that he has been quite impressive in this tournament also. He scored so many goals here last season. Maybe he couldn't make much impact on the semi finals and the finale but I can't overlook his overall effort just because of that.

Manchester City are playing great as a team. They don't rely on only one player such as Haaland. The semi finals and the finale were great examples for that. It is the truth that Haaland is an important piece of the puzzle. But Guardiola has a system working like a clockwork now. Even when Haaland isn't in-form the rest of the players can make up for that.
The good performance of a striker is not only measured by the goals scored in the matches they play, but I think their performance can also be seen by how much they influence the game. Haaland is a player who can make a positive impact on a game, even if he doesn't score a single goal during the match. That's why Pep Guardiola gives him minutes if he is available in the squad list.
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August 18, 2023, 01:12:19 PM
About Haaland in the Champions League, I can say that he has been quite impressive in this tournament also. He scored so many goals here last season. Maybe he couldn't make much impact on the semi finals and the finale but I can't overlook his overall effort just because of that.

Manchester City are playing great as a team. They don't rely on only one player such as Haaland. The semi finals and the finale were great examples for that. It is the truth that Haaland is an important piece of the puzzle. But Guardiola has a system working like a clockwork now. Even when Haaland isn't in-form the rest of the players can make up for that.
In fact, last season Haaland could not do anything well in the last two matches After that, Haaland's dedication to hope's journey to the final is the best of all. So it is not right to criticize him with the last two matches.
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August 18, 2023, 01:03:49 PM
About Haaland in the Champions League, I can say that he has been quite impressive in this tournament also. He scored so many goals here last season. Maybe he couldn't make much impact on the semi finals and the finale but I can't overlook his overall effort just because of that.

Manchester City are playing great as a team. They don't rely on only one player such as Haaland. The semi finals and the finale were great examples for that. It is the truth that Haaland is an important piece of the puzzle. But Guardiola has a system working like a clockwork now. Even when Haaland isn't in-form the rest of the players can make up for that.
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August 18, 2023, 12:11:14 PM
Regardless of how Haaland performed in the Champions League semi-finals and final last season,I think it would be wise to appreciate his goalscoring record. Haaland played 11 matches last season with Manchester City in the Champions League, and he managed to score 12 goals in 11 matches. Don't you think that's great?

After all, Pep Guardiola doesn't play a game strategy around Haaland so we can see all the players who play are involved in attack. Haaland is a target man, but almost anyone can score goals because Pep Guardiola has that scheme in building attacks instead of relying on one player.

Good stats but still far from Ronaldo's record (if I'm not mistaken, he scored 11 goals even just in the group stage). By the way, after the game with Sevilla, Haaland has a problem with the fact that further he will be under great pressure. He currently has zero goals for City in 5 finals! I think he will be reminded of this before each next final and if this figure continues to grow, it will be sad for him.

I personally don't care about Ronaldo's record, because I don't think all great strikers should be compared to Ronaldo. So, the benchmark for Haaland for me is not only about the number of goals, but how can Haaland maintain his consistency to keep playing well to make a big contribution to the success of the team.

Therefore, even though Haaland still cannot surpass Ronaldo's number of goals, but I am sure that this will not make Haaland rated badly. Also at least it's true, even though Haaland is a target man but at least, his teammates don't always rely on Haaland to be able to score goals. Thus, the team will still get good results even if Haaland doesn't score.
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August 18, 2023, 11:50:23 AM
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Pep Guardiola's football approach is usually effective because he knows what he wants for the team and how to attain it. It is usually a good idea for a coach to not rely just on one player in football because it is always productive in the end. What matters most in a team is how to win the game, and if they can win a game with or without any of the players being the key decider or scorer, it will be a victory for the entire team, and that is what counts most now. Even if Haaland does not perform well in every game, his presence on the field is something opponents fear and can still work in favour of the coach on how to defeat his opponent.
That's right, Haaland is not only dangerous because of his ability to score goals, but he can also attract the attention of defenders to mark him tightly which in all likelihood gives space for other players to score goals. We see that scenario a lot in Manchester City games, especially when Haaland really struggles to score.

Of course it's not a problem without a solution, Pep Guardiola has a solution and takes a better approach to win games. In the Manchester City squad, I don't think you can underestimate anyone because basically they can score goals when there's space to shoot.
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August 18, 2023, 11:39:38 AM
Panathinaikos were a surprising team to have advanced to the final qualification round. I was really surprised to see them eliminating Marseille despite getting behind by 2-0 first in the rematch. It looks like Marseille are still not fully ready with their new manager Marcelino. Sad
Marseille's inconsistency during the UCL qualifying round suggests that the team may not have fully embraced the new coach's strategy. I have the same expectation with you to saw marseille would be beating panathinaikos but the unexpected result was just happening with marseille caused by it has been performing so badly against panathinaikos. The club needs more time to adapt to the new coach. Marseille needs to rebuild its chemistry as soon as possible. The club is very close to the

But I think this round will be the end of the road for Panathinaikos. I respect their determination and their motivation must be much higher now. However their opponent is going to be Braga which are doing good so far. I think we will see the quality difference especially in the match Braga's home.

What do you think about it? Can Panathinaikos surprise us twice?  Smiley
Braga looks strong but did you believe if panathinaikos may be lucky enough to be qualified for UCL? panathinaikos can surprise us this. This is definitely true. Marseille was a top club in league 1.
The greece club was able beating one of top club in league 1 which is amazing. Panathi looks very strong right now. A tough game gonna happen between braga vs panathinaikos.
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August 18, 2023, 10:45:47 AM
Regardless of how Haaland performed in the Champions League semi-finals and final last season,I think it would be wise to appreciate his goalscoring record. Haaland played 11 matches last season with Manchester City in the Champions League, and he managed to score 12 goals in 11 matches. Don't you think that's great?

After all, Pep Guardiola doesn't play a game strategy around Haaland so we can see all the players who play are involved in attack. Haaland is a target man, but almost anyone can score goals because Pep Guardiola has that scheme in building attacks instead of relying on one player.

Good stats but still far from Ronaldo's record (if I'm not mistaken, he scored 11 goals even just in the group stage). By the way, after the game with Sevilla, Haaland has a problem with the fact that further he will be under great pressure. He currently has zero goals for City in 5 finals! I think he will be reminded of this before each next final and if this figure continues to grow, it will be sad for him.
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August 18, 2023, 10:39:10 AM
From what I've seen about Haaland's performances for Manchester City in big games is that he doesn't fare well in big games when he plays in them. The same situation that occurred in the Supa Cup matchup against Sevilla, where Haaland made no attempt to score, also transpired in the champions league last season. Is when Manchester City plays against small teams and during games when De Bruyne is there will you find Haaland performing wonders by scoring beautiful goals.
On Saturday, Manchester City is going to play against Newcastle, let's see whether Haaland would make any attempt to score. As for me, he is going to play well in that match because it is going to be a big game.
You are right, Haaland does not play well in big matches. He probably prefers to play in a pressure free manner. Can't play well under extra pressure. We haven't seen a better performance from Haaland in the semi-finals and finals of the Champions League. However, with De Bruyne, Silva and Gundogon in the squad, despite Haaland's lackluster performance, Manchester City's overall performance was very good last season.

Newcastle's match is very important. There are no big star players in the Newcastle team. But the bonding between the players in this team is the strongest of any team in the Premier League. And so, without De Bruyne and Silva, it cannot be said for sure whether Manchester City's performance will be good in this match. I wouldn't be surprised if Newcastle wins this match.
Regardless of how Haaland performed in the Champions League semi-finals and final last season,I think it would be wise to appreciate his goalscoring record. Haaland played 11 matches last season with Manchester City in the Champions League, and he managed to score 12 goals in 11 matches. Don't you think that's great?

After all, Pep Guardiola doesn't play a game strategy around Haaland so we can see all the players who play are involved in attack. Haaland is a target man, but almost anyone can score goals because Pep Guardiola has that scheme in building attacks instead of relying on one player.

Although Haaland did not play well in the semi-final and final, Haaland contributed a lot to Manchester City's Champions League final qualification and title win. Haaland was able to perform well in the group stage matches. He managed to score in almost every match.

Guardiola was well aware that Haaland would be blocked by every defender. For this he applied a different strategy. Guardiola didn't rely on Haaaland for scores. Every player in midfield and attack tried to score. This made it easier for other players in the team to score when the opposing defenders were busy blocking Haaland. This is why I think Haaland's contribution to Manchester City's title win is high.
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August 18, 2023, 10:25:46 AM
Regardless of how Haaland performed in the Champions League semi-finals and final last season,I think it would be wise to appreciate his goalscoring record. Haaland played 11 matches last season with Manchester City in the Champions League, and he managed to score 12 goals in 11 matches. Don't you think that's great?

After all, Pep Guardiola doesn't play a game strategy around Haaland so we can see all the players who play are involved in attack. Haaland is a target man, but almost anyone can score goals because Pep Guardiola has that scheme in building attacks instead of relying on one player.

Pep Guardiola's football approach is usually effective because he knows what he wants for the team and how to attain it. It is usually a good idea for a coach to not rely just on one player in football because it is always productive in the end. What matters most in a team is how to win the game, and if they can win a game with or without any of the players being the key decider or scorer, it will be a victory for the entire team, and that is what counts most now. Even if Haaland does not perform well in every game, his presence on the field is something opponents fear and can still work in favour of the coach on how to defeat his opponent.
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August 18, 2023, 10:06:30 AM
Regardless of how Haaland performed in the Champions League semi-finals and final last season,I think it would be wise to appreciate his goalscoring record. Haaland played 11 matches last season with Manchester City in the Champions League, and he managed to score 12 goals in 11 matches. Don't you think that's great?

After all, Pep Guardiola doesn't play a game strategy around Haaland so we can see all the players who play are involved in attack. Haaland is a target man, but almost anyone can score goals because Pep Guardiola has that scheme in building attacks instead of relying on one player.

That scheme where anyone can score goals shows that the team is solid all round one and does not suffer if a player misses a match,there is no key player in such game play although there are the attackers there who in theory should score more goals than other players,I very much like this philosophy of playing football.

As for Haaland I am pretty confident he will be the top scorer in this upcoming season of the Champions League,he is a goal machine and in a team like Manchester City who usually dominates the games it is only natural for him to have more chances scoring goal than when he was playing for Dortmund for example.

Pep Guardiola's influence at Manchester City is what has made me a true fan of this team since his arrival. I certainly agree that Pep Guardiola's philosophy of play has greatly benefited Manchester City, this is evident from the many titles they have won since the two parties agreed to work together until now.

As for the key players, I think Pep Guardiola has them. De Bruyne, Bernardo Silva, Grealish are the masterminds of the Manchester City attack, and you can see a lot of difference when one or all of those players are not involved. Manchester City's performance will not be as good as expected without this player, but they are still able to dominate well.


Not just about Pep Guardiola but in Manchester City they had a revolution after he joined this team. Because having a good coach like Guardiola can't be the reason for a team to have a good performance like Manchester City, I think their reason for them is to have more investment in their team, Manchester City bought many superstar players and hired players like Haaland while other teams can't use the money they have in the right moment,
This Manchester City can even be the first hope for the Premier League and Champions League in the next season. 

Strength comes when Manchester city has a lot of quality players and Pep Guardioa comes with additional strength to provide a more precise strategy which in the end really gave something big last season with 3 titles at once which they got to make the fans and club officials proud.
I admit that the management or officials of this club have a very good strategy of investing money in high-quality players like Haaland, who until now Manchstr city is still very favored to get the champions league trophy because everyone knows how this club performed after Pep Guardiola trained the players Manchstr city.
But even though Manchstr city is superior, it looks like it will have a little trouble this season because lots of clubs have experienced improvements, one of which is Bayern Munich, which has a superstar player at the moment.
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August 18, 2023, 10:02:45 AM

Regardless of how Haaland performed in the Champions League semi-finals and final last season,I think it would be wise to appreciate his goalscoring record. Haaland played 11 matches last season with Manchester City in the Champions League, and he managed to score 12 goals in 11 matches. Don't you think that's great?

After all, Pep Guardiola doesn't play a game strategy around Haaland so we can see all the players who play are involved in attack. Haaland is a target man, but almost anyone can score goals because Pep Guardiola has that scheme in building attacks instead of relying on one player.

Not infrequently each coach applies a different strategy in every match that will be played by his team, especially in crucial matches such as what happened in City's match in the semifinal and final match. in these two crucial matches, Haaland was unable to score a single goal for his team. but his contribution to his teammates is huge, let's take a look at Bernardo Silva's goal moment. At that time, Haaland was under heavy guard from the opposing team. However, he was able to outwit and make room for his other teammates to move freely and score goals. proven, City won the game over Madrid.

Referring to what you said about Pep's system, we totally agree that even though Haaland is actually a Target Man, his teammates are involved in building attacks. hence, Pep tends to use a 3-2-4-1 system. the pattern applied by Pep is very effective and every player can score goals if they have the opportunity and opportunity. So, back to Haaland's discussion, the fact is that not every striker will always score goals in crucial matches. it could be, the coach makes a strategy scenario like I said at the beginning. but for sure, Haaland is a great striker and very hungry for goals. this season, he has the potential to become the top scorer in both the domestic league and the champions league.
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August 18, 2023, 09:08:42 AM
Panathinaikos were a surprising team to have advanced to the final qualification round. I was really surprised to see them eliminating Marseille despite getting behind by 2-0 first in the rematch. It looks like Marseille are still not fully ready with their new manager Marcelino. Sad

But I think this round will be the end of the road for Panathinaikos. I respect their determination and their motivation must be much higher now. However their opponent is going to be Braga which are doing good so far. I think we will see the quality difference especially in the match Braga's home.

What do you think about it? Can Panathinaikos surprise us twice?  Smiley
Although Panathinaikos surprised in the previous qualifying round by eliminating Marseille, this time there is a tendency they will not succeed in doing the same thing twice. It must be realized that their next opponent is SC Braga which is a regular team in the champion league from Portugal and often SC Braga is at almost the same level as Porto or Sporting.

There is no doubt that SC Braga will win this time and if I place a bet on this match, it is clear that I will bet on SC Braga's victory. Apart from that, it's a different story if Panathinaikos manages to hold SC Braga's series and takes them to the penalty shootout as before. Most likely Panathinaikos will qualify in this way, but if we talk about 90 minutes of normal time, I think their hopes are very slim.
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August 18, 2023, 08:52:21 AM
Regardless of how Haaland performed in the Champions League semi-finals and final last season,I think it would be wise to appreciate his goalscoring record. Haaland played 11 matches last season with Manchester City in the Champions League, and he managed to score 12 goals in 11 matches. Don't you think that's great?

After all, Pep Guardiola doesn't play a game strategy around Haaland so we can see all the players who play are involved in attack. Haaland is a target man, but almost anyone can score goals because Pep Guardiola has that scheme in building attacks instead of relying on one player.

That scheme where anyone can score goals shows that the team is solid all round one and does not suffer if a player misses a match,there is no key player in such game play although there are the attackers there who in theory should score more goals than other players,I very much like this philosophy of playing football.

As for Haaland I am pretty confident he will be the top scorer in this upcoming season of the Champions League,he is a goal machine and in a team like Manchester City who usually dominates the games it is only natural for him to have more chances scoring goal than when he was playing for Dortmund for example.

Pep Guardiola's influence at Manchester City is what has made me a true fan of this team since his arrival. I certainly agree that Pep Guardiola's philosophy of play has greatly benefited Manchester City, this is evident from the many titles they have won since the two parties agreed to work together until now.

As for the key players, I think Pep Guardiola has them. De Bruyne, Bernardo Silva, Grealish are the masterminds of the Manchester City attack, and you can see a lot of difference when one or all of those players are not involved. Manchester City's performance will not be as good as expected without this player, but they are still able to dominate well.


Not just about Pep Guardiola but in Manchester City they had a revolution after he joined this team. Because having a good coach like Guardiola can't be the reason for a team to have a good performance like Manchester City, I think their reason for them is to have more investment in their team, Manchester City bought many superstar players and hired players like Haaland while other teams can't use the money they have in the right moment,
This Manchester City can even be the first hope for the Premier League and Champions League in the next season. 

I think Pep Guardiola is the main reason for the success of Manchester City winning trophies,  he is a good coach and well experienced that understands football.  Pep Guardiola knows how to use his players well, he understands the positions that every of his players can be fit into to perform well. Manchester City have good players and Pep Guardiola contributes to the performance of this players, he brings out the best from this players . With Pep Guardiola as the coach of Manchester City it is very possible Manchester City can still dominate the Champions league this season again because they look so extraordinary.
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August 18, 2023, 07:21:08 AM
Regardless of how Haaland performed in the Champions League semi-finals and final last season,I think it would be wise to appreciate his goalscoring record. Haaland played 11 matches last season with Manchester City in the Champions League, and he managed to score 12 goals in 11 matches. Don't you think that's great?

After all, Pep Guardiola doesn't play a game strategy around Haaland so we can see all the players who play are involved in attack. Haaland is a target man, but almost anyone can score goals because Pep Guardiola has that scheme in building attacks instead of relying on one player.

That scheme where anyone can score goals shows that the team is solid all round one and does not suffer if a player misses a match,there is no key player in such game play although there are the attackers there who in theory should score more goals than other players,I very much like this philosophy of playing football.

As for Haaland I am pretty confident he will be the top scorer in this upcoming season of the Champions League,he is a goal machine and in a team like Manchester City who usually dominates the games it is only natural for him to have more chances scoring goal than when he was playing for Dortmund for example.

Pep Guardiola's influence at Manchester City is what has made me a true fan of this team since his arrival. I certainly agree that Pep Guardiola's philosophy of play has greatly benefited Manchester City, this is evident from the many titles they have won since the two parties agreed to work together until now.

As for the key players, I think Pep Guardiola has them. De Bruyne, Bernardo Silva, Grealish are the masterminds of the Manchester City attack, and you can see a lot of difference when one or all of those players are not involved. Manchester City's performance will not be as good as expected without this player, but they are still able to dominate well.


Not just about Pep Guardiola but in Manchester City they had a revolution after he joined this team. Because having a good coach like Guardiola can't be the reason for a team to have a good performance like Manchester City, I think their reason for them is to have more investment in their team, Manchester City bought many superstar players and hired players like Haaland while other teams can't use the money they have in the right moment,
This Manchester City can even be the first hope for the Premier League and Champions League in the next season. 
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August 18, 2023, 05:49:15 AM
Regardless of how Haaland performed in the Champions League semi-finals and final last season,I think it would be wise to appreciate his goalscoring record. Haaland played 11 matches last season with Manchester City in the Champions League, and he managed to score 12 goals in 11 matches. Don't you think that's great?

After all, Pep Guardiola doesn't play a game strategy around Haaland so we can see all the players who play are involved in attack. Haaland is a target man, but almost anyone can score goals because Pep Guardiola has that scheme in building attacks instead of relying on one player.

That scheme where anyone can score goals shows that the team is solid all round one and does not suffer if a player misses a match,there is no key player in such game play although there are the attackers there who in theory should score more goals than other players,I very much like this philosophy of playing football.

As for Haaland I am pretty confident he will be the top scorer in this upcoming season of the Champions League,he is a goal machine and in a team like Manchester City who usually dominates the games it is only natural for him to have more chances scoring goal than when he was playing for Dortmund for example.

Pep Guardiola's influence at Manchester City is what has made me a true fan of this team since his arrival. I certainly agree that Pep Guardiola's philosophy of play has greatly benefited Manchester City, this is evident from the many titles they have won since the two parties agreed to work together until now.

As for the key players, I think Pep Guardiola has them. De Bruyne, Bernardo Silva, Grealish are the masterminds of the Manchester City attack, and you can see a lot of difference when one or all of those players are not involved. Manchester City's performance will not be as good as expected without this player, but they are still able to dominate well.
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August 18, 2023, 05:45:56 AM
Panathinaikos were a surprising team to have advanced to the final qualification round. I was really surprised to see them eliminating Marseille despite getting behind by 2-0 first in the rematch. It looks like Marseille are still not fully ready with their new manager Marcelino. Sad

But I think this round will be the end of the road for Panathinaikos. I respect their determination and their motivation must be much higher now. However their opponent is going to be Braga which are doing good so far. I think we will see the quality difference especially in the match Braga's home.

What do you think about it? Can Panathinaikos surprise us twice?  Smiley

Okay, when I saw this post, my first reaction was who the hell is Panathinaikos? And why are they playing in the Champions League competition? And how the hell is Marseille getting beaten by them? But I think we can say that it is not because Panathinaikos is a really good team or performing really well. I think it is because Marseille is just not being able to perform well enough. And of course it was not a convincing win from Panathinaikos. But in the end I win is a win and we have to give credit to them for that. It’s like just because Argentina was able to win the World Cup via penalties, we can say that Argentina did not deserve it.

But I also agree that this is probably going to be the end of their miraculous journey. Braga is going to be a big opponent for Panathinaikos. But of course, nothing is a hundred percent certain.
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August 18, 2023, 05:34:41 AM
But I think this round will be the end of the road for Panathinaikos. I respect their determination and their motivation must be much higher now. However their opponent is going to be Braga which are doing good so far. I think we will see the quality difference especially in the match Braga's home.

What do you think about it? Can Panathinaikos surprise us twice?  Smiley

Most likely this round is Panathinaikos last step in the UCL because the bookies are very much on Braga side with smaller odds, we can see in the image below that SC Braga gets @1.65 odds while Panathinaikos has @5.4.


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But what makes this match interesting is that this opportunity is the first meeting for the two teams in history, they have never met before even in a friendly match, so, of course the result of the match will be very difficult to predict, it doesn't mean that Panathinaikos with their big odds will lose easily. About surprising us a second time? it's possible, nothing is impossible in football.
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August 18, 2023, 05:17:24 AM
Panathinaikos were a surprising team to have advanced to the final qualification round. I was really surprised to see them eliminating Marseille despite getting behind by 2-0 first in the rematch. It looks like Marseille are still not fully ready with their new manager Marcelino. Sad

But I think this round will be the end of the road for Panathinaikos. I respect their determination and their motivation must be much higher now. However their opponent is going to be Braga which are doing good so far. I think we will see the quality difference especially in the match Braga's home.

What do you think about it? Can Panathinaikos surprise us twice?  Smiley
They will face Braga in 2 decisive matches (leg 1 & leg 2), it is definitely not an easy opponent, although perhaps in strength it is weaker than the opponent they faced before, Marseille. Now both clubs will go all out to win a ticket to the Champions League group stage, and believe me both will do everything possible to win this match.
The first leg will see them as guests of Braga, and it's likely that they'll be more defensive in this one, and if they can they'll steal an early goal and then go all out.
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