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August 16, 2023, 04:31:13 PM
There have also been loose rumors that the UEFA itself was considering giving two wild cards to two clubs from the Saudi Professional League, but there was no official source anywhere to be found except for some tweets and less reputed websites. It wouldn't come as a huge surprise and maybe it is a test done by the UEFA to find out whether the Saudis already have bigger plans for their own association or something like that.

I mean why not, it can't hurt and we could finally see what happens when Manchester City plays against a club like Al-Nassr.

If this news have been circulated to other platforms even if those platforms are not reputable ones then there’s an iota of truth in all of this. Those news channel or social media platforms wouldn’t have shared such information if wasn’t rumored to happen or actually in the process of happening.

Having a competitive football game like an inter continent football wouldn’t be a bad idea to me, I just imagine how competitive football will become more and each continent trying to dominate the UEFA competition. What I sensed again is that UEFA doesn’t want the attention of football to be turned to that part, so they’re looking for a way to still attract people to watch them in Europe rather than a divided attention between this two continents.


But it could also have another dangerous effect. A lot of players don't want to leave the European stages because they want to play against the best of the best and the only chance to do that is to play in the UEFA Champions League. That event is a major incentive for players to stay in Europe because they want to build an amazing career for themselves. They also want to earn a lot of money, but that is possible at later stage of their career as we are seeing now. But when the SPL is now getting into the mix of the UEFA Champions League participants, wouldn't that take away an advantage of the European clubs in terms of exclusivity and make players think less negatively about leaving Europe? Do you know what I mean?
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August 16, 2023, 04:24:06 PM
The first 45 minutes of the Super Cup between Manchester City and Sevilla has gone and the second half has started and almost going to the middle and we have seen that Sevilla is leading Manchester City.
I am not seeing the match because I am away from home, but going to the internet to check the score. I was surprised realizing that Kevin is not in Manchester City midfield and I knew that there will be a problem. The squad that Manchester City has brought to this match is something that Sevilla can follow up squarely. So if Sevilla wins this match I will not be so surprised.

If we can say about the first half that Sevilla was lucky to some extent, then in the first 15 minutes of the second half, Sevilla should have made the score 2-0. Right now they are just playing better than City and I don't understand what Guardiola is waiting for - where are the replacements? Or is he thinking of starting to correct the game at 0-2?
As usual, Sevilla is used to losing the Super cup to which ever club. I cannot remember when last Sevilla won the super cup or if they have won it before now. I didn't watch the match but checking the statistics, it seems that Sevilla was lucky to have scored the goal against Manchester City. The possession was like 72% to 28% in favour of Manchester City. The passes completed was very high on Manchester City compared to Sevilla. I was just thinking how Sevilla managed to stretch the match to penalty shoot ours.
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August 16, 2023, 04:18:49 PM
I think that Bruyne's absence due to injury will certainly make Guardiola play some of his other best players, even so this is a prestigious match where the UCL and UEFA champions meet, I'm not sure that the result will be better for Manchester City, I think Sevilla can give a surprise to manhester city, in sports betting manchester is indeed the underdog but that doesn't guarantee victory.

I think the match will be tough and both will play tight so maybe there will be difficulties to score more goals, even if one of them wins, the score will not be much, just a narrow win, even though I am a Manchester City supporter they still have to be careful with surprises from Sevilla and always think that Sevilla is a tough opponent, don't underestimate it because Sevilla could have stolen that narrow victory, but I still bet for Manchester City to win.  Cheesy

Not Just the absence of the Belgium International, the exit of IIkay Gundogan has also been very visible. They let go of a very creative midfielder, but he wasn't replaced with another creative player.
Also Yeah, the injured De Brunye is a minus a to Manchester City and Pep Guardiola, but before the game, Pep Guardiola should have already planned for that shortage.

Tough and Interesting. Seeing how City plays, I double doubt duriy the weekend they'll be able to get a win against Newcastle United.
Manchester city just won the super cup without them, so they can beat Newcastle without kelvin too. Though the game against sevilla was very tough for them, they struggle to win it in the penalty shootout.

Newcastle, is a very strong side no doubt and will give Manchester city a tough time in the weekend.
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August 16, 2023, 03:55:26 PM
I think that Bruyne's absence due to injury will certainly make Guardiola play some of his other best players, even so this is a prestigious match where the UCL and UEFA champions meet, I'm not sure that the result will be better for Manchester City, I think Sevilla can give a surprise to manhester city, in sports betting manchester is indeed the underdog but that doesn't guarantee victory.

I think the match will be tough and both will play tight so maybe there will be difficulties to score more goals, even if one of them wins, the score will not be much, just a narrow win, even though I am a Manchester City supporter they still have to be careful with surprises from Sevilla and always think that Sevilla is a tough opponent, don't underestimate it because Sevilla could have stolen that narrow victory, but I still bet for Manchester City to win.  Cheesy

Not Just the absence of the Belgium International, the exit of IIkay Gundogan has also been very visible. They let go of a very creative midfielder, but he wasn't replaced with another creative player.
Also Yeah, the injured De Brunye is a minus a to Manchester City and Pep Guardiola, but before the game, Pep Guardiola should have already planned for that shortage.

Tough and Interesting. Seeing how City plays, I double doubt duriy the weekend they'll be able to get a win against Newcastle United.
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August 16, 2023, 03:51:29 PM
There have also been loose rumors that the UEFA itself was considering giving two wild cards to two clubs from the Saudi Professional League, but there was no official source anywhere to be found except for some tweets and less reputed websites. It wouldn't come as a huge surprise and maybe it is a test done by the UEFA to find out whether the Saudis already have bigger plans for their own association or something like that.

I mean why not, it can't hurt and we could finally see what happens when Manchester City plays against a club like Al-Nassr.

If this news have been circulated to other platforms even if those platforms are not reputable ones then there’s an iota of truth in all of this. Those news channel or social media platforms wouldn’t have shared such information if wasn’t rumored to happen or actually in the process of happening.

Having a competitive football game like an inter continent football wouldn’t be a bad idea to me, I just imagine how competitive football will become more and each continent trying to dominate the UEFA competition. What I sensed again is that UEFA doesn’t want the attention of football to be turned to that part, so they’re looking for a way to still attract people to watch them in Europe rather than a divided attention between this two continents.

If we can say about the first half that Sevilla was lucky to some extent, then in the first 15 minutes of the second half, Sevilla should have made the score 2-0. Right now they are just playing better than City and I don't understand what Guardiola is waiting for - where are the replacements? Or is he thinking of starting to correct the game at 0-2?

Manchester City have dominated the game again after equalising 1-1. And with the possession and game stats till now, Manchester City have the higher possibility of winning this match than Sevilla. Sevilla created a lot of chances before now and they were unable to utilize them, the pressure is much on them now, so I doubt if they can win this match at the end.
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August 16, 2023, 03:26:51 PM
The first 45 minutes of the Super Cup between Manchester City and Sevilla has gone and the second half has started and almost going to the middle and we have seen that Sevilla is leading Manchester City.
I am not seeing the match because I am away from home, but going to the internet to check the score. I was surprised realizing that Kevin is not in Manchester City midfield and I knew that there will be a problem. The squad that Manchester City has brought to this match is something that Sevilla can follow up squarely. So if Sevilla wins this match I will not be so surprised.

If we can say about the first half that Sevilla was lucky to some extent, then in the first 15 minutes of the second half, Sevilla should have made the score 2-0. Right now they are just playing better than City and I don't understand what Guardiola is waiting for - where are the replacements? Or is he thinking of starting to correct the game at 0-2?
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August 16, 2023, 03:19:21 PM


The match between the winner of UCL gonna face UEL winner soon. Manchester city has been favoring to win the match compared with sevilla. I think that the odds was explaining a lot. Manchester city has been successfully securing the full points while sevilla keeps struggling in the first match of la liga. In my opinion that if manchester city may able to win with small score against sevilla. Sevilla is not yet unstable at this moment. Im not favoring this club to win the match. City is one step ahead compared with sevilla.
City's odd quite good consider how strong this team is last season. City was winning treble winners while sevilla was only winning europa league last season after the club was beating roma in the final.
Im thinking about city gonna win against sevilla. It's very good to see the match between the winners of european competitions will happen soon.

The first 45 minutes of the Super Cup between Manchester City and Sevilla has gone and the second half has started and almost going to the middle and we have seen that Sevilla is leading Manchester City.
I am not seeing the match because I am away from home, but going to the internet to check the score. I was surprised realizing that Kevin is not in Manchester City midfield and I knew that there will be a problem. The squad that Manchester City has brought to this match is something that Sevilla can follow up squarely. So if Sevilla wins this match I will not be so surprised.
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August 16, 2023, 02:49:08 PM


The match between the winner of UCL gonna face UEL winner soon. Manchester city has been favoring to win the match compared with sevilla. I think that the odds was explaining a lot. Manchester city has been successfully securing the full points while sevilla keeps struggling in the first match of la liga. In my opinion that if manchester city may able to win with small score against sevilla. Sevilla is not yet unstable at this moment. Im not favoring this club to win the match. City is one step ahead compared with sevilla.
City's odd quite good consider how strong this team is last season. City was winning treble winners while sevilla was only winning europa league last season after the club was beating roma in the final.
Im thinking about city gonna win against sevilla. It's very good to see the match between the winners of european competitions will happen soon.
I think that Bruyne's absence due to injury will certainly make Guardiola play some of his other best players, even so this is a prestigious match where the UCL and UEFA champions meet, I'm not sure that the result will be better for Manchester City, I think Sevilla can give a surprise to manhester city, in sports betting manchester is indeed the underdog but that doesn't guarantee victory.

I think the match will be tough and both will play tight so maybe there will be difficulties to score more goals, even if one of them wins, the score will not be much, just a narrow win, even though I am a Manchester City supporter they still have to be careful with surprises from Sevilla and always think that Sevilla is a tough opponent, don't underestimate it because Sevilla could have stolen that narrow victory, but I still bet for Manchester City to win.  Cheesy
Sevilla were able to score a goal in the first half and they have a good defence. Manchester City are constantly attacking, but I think they risk conceding another goal. It is still hard to say who will win this match, because there is still a second half to go, but Sevilla are still in the lead, although Manchester City are constantly in possession of the ball.
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August 16, 2023, 02:35:05 PM
to be honest, I don't like the idea at all! they already have their own Champions League, why on earth should they have access to a competition that is not part of their jurisdiction?
that's why it would be interesting to find a news from uefa on this topic

I don't like the idea, lets keep the champions league to Europe and Europe only, I personally don't like all this new rules they keep adding to the football that we knew, it's spoiling it and if UEFA does this then they have spoiled football and I'll be in support of the Super league to replace the champions league because they would have taken the prestige of the league by allowing those farmers with their money to come and spoil everything. They'll just bribe the referee with their oil billion and spoil the good game. Also this means they can get younger players as they're participating in champions league which is one of the reasons young players are refusing to go to Saudi because that means they can't play on the big stages (champions league). Thought we have club world cup that they can participate in.

So guys the UEFA super cup is today and it's almost time, who do y'all have your money on, Manchester city is currently the strongest team in the world after doing the triple which includes the English premier league, FA cup and the UEFA champions league that certainly not an easy thing to do certainly.  Sevilla the opposition is undisputably the best team to play in the Europa league in the last decade and they are fearless especially when the face a top team.

My bet is also on Manchester city to win, Sevilla aren't Arsenal that they can frustrate Manchester city by holding them to a draw and winning at penalty shootout. Arsenal plays Manchester city in the premier league regularly so they can always pull some shockers but Sevilla are foreigners and Manchester city will treat them as such. Also this is the first Manchester city super cup and I don't think they're ready to lose it especially not after losing the community shield to Arsenal. Currently they're losing 1-0 in favor of Sevilla and it's the 35th minute but all hopes aren't lost yet as Manchester city are dominating the game (as expected) and Manchester city are still in the game but hopefully they don't flop at their first super cup competition.
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August 16, 2023, 02:06:39 PM
If UEFA will be accepting it and it must change its name as Union of European and Middle East Football Associations. It doesn't even make sense to see how saudi wanna ask UEFA to include saudi pro league team in UCL.

wild card = money? This probably a hoax being made by media but it will make sense if saudi pro league club will able to participate in AFC champion league elite(ACLE) which has been introduced recently by AFC.

update:

I got the source of that news https://www.corrieredellosport.it/news/calcio/calcio-estero/saudi-league/2023/08/15-111686909/clamoroso_gli_arabi_vogliono_giocare_la_champions_league


here I was referring to this news, it shocked me sincerely, it would be interesting to know what uefa itself thinks of this possibility

I have never seen or heard such news. But if the news is true then I think the Champions League authorities will not agree to this. Because the Champions League has something to say about self-esteem.

to be honest, I don't like the idea at all! they already have their own Champions League, why on earth should they have access to a competition that is not part of their jurisdiction?
that's why it would be interesting to find a news from uefa on this topic

There have also been loose rumors that the UEFA itself was considering giving two wild cards to two clubs from the Saudi Professional League, but there was no official source anywhere to be found except for some tweets and less reputed websites. It wouldn't come as a huge surprise and maybe it is a test done by the UEFA to find out whether the Saudis already have bigger plans for their own association or something like that.

I mean why not, it can't hurt and we could finally see what happens when Manchester City plays against a club like Al-Nassr.

If that's the point, I think it's all about pleasing the sheikhs of Manchester City and the PIF group. in short, always a matter of money! and what money!!




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August 16, 2023, 01:43:01 PM
So guys the UEFA super cup is today and it's almost time, who do y'all have your money on, Manchester city is currently the strongest team in the world after doing the triple which includes the English premier league, FA cup and the UEFA champions league that certainly not an easy thing to do certainly.  Sevilla the opposition is undisputably the best team to play in the Europa league in the last decade and they are fearless especially when the face a top team.

I would have not written them off if they were facing another team that's not Manchester city regardless of the ability of the team.  Manchester city is a team that would break the will and spirit of any team. It's hard to be resilient against such team so my money is on Manchester city winning. So guys which team are you rooting for.
I would put Man City above Sevilla, as you say Man City is the best team in the world at the moment I agree. Reportedly Kevin De Bruyne will not be able to play in this match, because he is currently injured, maybe De Bruyne will rest for the next few matches. The H2H record between Man City vs Sevilla was won 4 times by City, I think this winning trend will continue in this match.

Since this is the final match, I predict both clubs will play carefully. But the match will finish in normal time and will not reach the penalty round, this is just a personal assumption, Sevilla could turn things around by coming out victorious.
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August 16, 2023, 01:23:55 PM
So guys the UEFA super cup is today and it's almost time, who do y'all have your money on, Manchester city is currently the strongest team in the world after doing the triple which includes the English premier league, FA cup and the UEFA champions league that certainly not an easy thing to do certainly.  Sevilla the opposition is undisputably the best team to play in the Europa league in the last decade and they are fearless especially when the face a top team.

I would have not written them off if they were facing another team that's not Manchester city regardless of the ability of the team.  Manchester city is a team that would break the will and spirit of any team. It's hard to be resilient against such team so my money is on Manchester city winning. So guys which team are you rooting for.
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August 16, 2023, 12:54:34 PM
Most likely the reason is the underestimation of the opponent, although after the defeat in the first match Marseille should have been more attentive. Returning to the game in extra time gave Panathinaikos some kind of psychological advantage, and penalty shootouts are always a lottery. It is very unexpected to see Marseille fail to make it to the group stage. Now Panathinaikos will face Braga, another very difficult opponent.
I saw a very serious difference between their play in the first leg and this second leg, they should have been able to do the same as this match in the first leg, but unfortunately they couldn't do it so it was a loss that in the end they had to be eliminated.
I agree with you that they probably underestimated their opponents, especially in the first leg. I understand home and away status does matter, but when you look at what they did in this match, they should be able to do it in their away matches as well.
I feel like there are situations where even the best teams could end up losing to worse teams and thats how football is played. I get that it is not going to be easy to handle like that but as long as it's possible, there will always be a chance. I think Marseille goes to europa this way don't they? If thats the case then I am sure that they are going to be fine and there won't be any problems at all. I think it's something that matters a lot and we should be considering them doing a lot better there.

Any team that doesn't do well in UCL would be a lot more glad that they are at europa. Of course financially that's terrible, they do need that kind of money to go there and play in order to make that money, and then be third in their group and go to europa that way.
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August 16, 2023, 12:40:11 PM
I didn't see a thread for UEFA Super Cup so I would like to discuss the Manchester City - Sevilla game here.

What do you think about this game? Would we see a surprising result or Manchester City would just continue doing what they do the best?

Above all else you should know that De Bruyne has just got injured and it is a serious one. He is expected to be out for at least 4 months.  Sad  This is pretty bad news for Manchester City. Of course they are still a very strong team compared to their opponent. But we can't overlook 2 things here:

- De Bruyne is like the heart of Manchester City. His passes and shots are really unique that his absence will be felt quite much.
- Sevilla are the king of the Europa League so in this game Manchester City had better not underestimate them.

I'm favouring Manchester  City to win anyway of course. But the score might be a close one like 2-1.
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August 16, 2023, 12:29:07 PM
For me yesterday we saw two very big surprises, the first one its the obvious one, Marseille losing the qualification against Panatinaikos, i ahve to say they have pretty abd luck, they lose the qualy in the last minute and also in extra time they make  goal and was not allowed.

The second one was the victory of AEK against DInamo zagreb. Dinamo its really strong on this stages, i dont know what happen.

Marseille could only win in 90 normal time in second leg, while Panathinaikos had won in the first leg and made the result a draw in 90 normal time. So the match continued to extra time and up to the penalty shootout but unfortunately, Marseille lost on penalties, if Marseille won on penalties, then of course Marseille would qualify. But yes, after all the final result has been obtained and Marseille must fall and congratulations of course to Panathinaikos who managed to qualify.

About Dinamo Zagreb, it seems that they only maximize at half time. Because after all, in the statistics also seen that Dinamo Zagreb who managed to win 1-0 at half time, it seemed to make Dinamo Zagreb reduce the intensity of its attacks in the second half. But unfortunately, AEK Athens can rise in the second half by having better dominance and managed to make two goals also in the second half. But even so, at least this is still the first leg which of course there is still a second leg which Dinamo Zagreb might be able to turn things around.
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August 16, 2023, 12:17:51 PM
I just have news that has me a little shocked! Saudi Arabia wants to ask UEFA that a team from the Saudi League Pro can be included in the next Champions league, through a "wild card" that I honestly did not understand what a wild card was, do you have any news on the matter? is it a hoax that runs on the web?

If UEFA will be accepting it and it must change its name as Union of European and Middle East Football Associations. It doesn't even make sense to see how saudi wanna ask UEFA to include saudi pro league team in UCL.

wild card = money? This probably a hoax being made by media but it will make sense if saudi pro league club will able to participate in AFC champion league elite(ACLE) which has been introduced recently by AFC.

update:

I got the source of that news https://www.corrieredellosport.it/news/calcio/calcio-estero/saudi-league/2023/08/15-111686909/clamoroso_gli_arabi_vogliono_giocare_la_champions_league


There have also been loose rumors that the UEFA itself was considering giving two wild cards to two clubs from the Saudi Professional League, but there was no official source anywhere to be found except for some tweets and less reputed websites. It wouldn't come as a huge surprise and maybe it is a test done by the UEFA to find out whether the Saudis already have bigger plans for their own association or something like that.

I mean why not, it can't hurt and we could finally see what happens when Manchester City plays against a club like Al-Nassr.
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August 16, 2023, 11:35:36 AM
I just have news that has me a little shocked! Saudi Arabia wants to ask UEFA that a team from the Saudi League Pro can be included in the next Champions league, through a "wild card" that I honestly did not understand what a wild card was, do you have any news on the matter? is it a hoax that runs on the web?
I have never seen or heard such news. But if the news is true then I think the Champions League authorities will not agree to this. Because the Champions League has something to say about self-esteem.
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August 16, 2023, 11:24:22 AM
I just have news that has me a little shocked! Saudi Arabia wants to ask UEFA that a team from the Saudi League Pro can be included in the next Champions league, through a "wild card" that I honestly did not understand what a wild card was, do you have any news on the matter? is it a hoax that runs on the web?

If UEFA will be accepting it and it must change its name as Union of European and Middle East Football Associations. It doesn't even make sense to see how saudi wanna ask UEFA to include saudi pro league team in UCL.

wild card = money? This probably a hoax being made by media but it will make sense if saudi pro league club will able to participate in AFC champion league elite(ACLE) which has been introduced recently by AFC.

update:

I got the source of that news https://www.corrieredellosport.it/news/calcio/calcio-estero/saudi-league/2023/08/15-111686909/clamoroso_gli_arabi_vogliono_giocare_la_champions_league
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August 16, 2023, 10:45:53 AM
For me yesterday we saw two very big surprises, the first one its the obvious one, Marseille losing the qualification against Panatinaikos, i ahve to say they have pretty abd luck, they lose the qualy in the last minute and also in extra time they make  goal and was not allowed.

The second one was the victory of AEK against DInamo zagreb. Dinamo its really strong on this stages, i dont know what happen.
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August 16, 2023, 10:18:57 AM
Dinamo Zagreb lost 2-1 at home to AEK and lost a big advantage for the away game. AEK scored in the 90th minute of the match which was tied in the last minutes and got an important result for themselves in the away match.
Dinamo Zagreb was leading in the first half, things seemed to be OK before AEK Athens got the draw in the second half and a late goal made Zagreb be in an awkward position in the next match in Athens.

The match between Sparta Prague and Copenhagen was very competitive. Both teams gave everything to get through the round, but in a match where only one team would advance, Copenhagen advanced. In the match, which ended 1-1 in normal time and 3-3 in extra time, Copenhagen won 4-2 on penalties.
Copenhagen passed this stage with difficulty vs Sparta Prague. Penalties were in their side this time. They will face Rakow next, not an important opponent but definitely they will not be an easy one. Rangers also had a hard time qualifying and Panathinaikos kicked Marseille from the competition Lips sealed
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