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October 18, 2023, 02:38:26 PM
In fact, Manchester City is still performing well in the Champions League at the moment even without Kevin de Bruyne and managed to win the match against Leipzig, who are the strongest rivals in Group G, even though they have experienced 2 defeats in the Premier League this is really a shame, but I am sure Pep Guardiola wont only relying on Kevin de Bruyne, he still has several other key players, but we also don't know to what extent Manchester City will be able to survive without Kevin de Bruyne, but what is clear at the moment is that even though Manchester City has not appeared completely consistent, what is clear is that Pep Guardiola will soon fix things midfield at the club to be able to improve Manchester City current performance.
Pep Guardiola definitely has a backup strategy in carrying out this season in the Champions League and Premier League so that Manchester City can continue to appear strong in all competitions even though key players like Kevin de Bruyne cannot play as hard as they are currently. I am quite sure that Manchester City will not be weak enough this season because Pep Guardiola has a way of placing substitutes in midfield in order to continue to have a better defense and attack line.

Just losing some a few points in the Premier League is not a reason for us to say Manchester City is not performing well anymore in this season.
Manchester City has a coach like Guardiola and he definitely has a good plan for an important tournament like the Champions League in which they want to win the title in this season.  
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October 18, 2023, 02:37:12 PM
I was recounting Manchester United chances of qualifying from the group stage in this season's champions League and honestly the chances of Manchester United is very slim. I do not really understand what is wrong with Manchester United and what really happened to them. Honestly, Manchester United showed strength and commitment in the match against Bayern Munich much they didn't do their best in the match against Galatasary.

It is likely that Manchester United will go empty handed this season. This is because they will go to the Europa League and in the Europa League, there is Liverpool already there waiting to be the champions.

Before this group phase started I thought that Manchester United had a chance to be runner up, but the fact is that to be runner up still seems quite difficult for Manchester United at this moment. So yes, at this moment at least I also think that Manchester United will only finish in third place, and that will make Manchester United play in the Europa League in the knockout phase later . But yes, because there is still a second leg then maybe Manchester United can recover, at least if Manchester United manage to win against Galatasaray and Copenhagen in the remaining matches then maybe Manchester United still have a chance to become runner up. But yes, even if for example Manchester United qualify for the round of 16 and or only finish in third place and continue in the Europa League, basically Manchester United still no chance of going further in the knockout phase.
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October 18, 2023, 02:34:25 PM
I was recounting Manchester United chances of qualifying from the group stage in this season's champions League and honestly the chances of Manchester United is very slim. I do not really understand what is wrong with Manchester United and what really happened to them. Honestly, Manchester United showed strength and commitment in the match against Bayern Munich much they didn't do their best in the match against Galatasary.

It is likely that Manchester United will go empty handed this season. This is because they will go to the Europa League and in the Europa League, there is Liverpool already there waiting to be the champions.
0 Points with 2 matches, the only hope to get points must win with Copenhagen - I guess it's not difficult by playing at Old Trafford.

Actually the opportunity is still there but it is thin to continue to win all the matches, Galatasaray is unlikely to let lose points, especially Bayern Munich who will remain firmly at the top of the group.
I think Man United's situation in the Champion League will be a little difficult.

Maybe it could be that Man United will be thrown into the Europa League.
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October 18, 2023, 02:32:40 PM
I was recounting Manchester United chances of qualifying from the group stage in this season's champions League and honestly the chances of Manchester United is very slim. I do not really understand what is wrong with Manchester United and what really happened to them. Honestly, Manchester United showed strength and commitment in the match against Bayern Munich much they didn't do their best in the match against Galatasary.

It is likely that Manchester United will go empty handed this season. This is because they will go to the Europa League and in the Europa League, there is Liverpool already there waiting to be the champions.
You are correct Manchester united has started this year's UEFA champions league very badly. Losing to Bayern Munich and Galatasaray, this was a group that should have ended with Bayern Munich and Manchester united qualifying but right now Galatasaray has a better chance than them although it's too early to judge, they now have to seriously face their upcoming games and hope they win all then they would have a great chance .
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October 18, 2023, 02:29:17 PM
I was recounting Manchester United chances of qualifying from the group stage in this season's champions League and honestly the chances of Manchester United is very slim. I do not really understand what is wrong with Manchester United and what really happened to them. Honestly, Manchester United showed strength and commitment in the match against Bayern Munich much they didn't do their best in the match against Galatasary.

It is likely that Manchester United will go empty handed this season. This is because they will go to the Europa League and in the Europa League, there is Liverpool already there waiting to be the champions.

Every body understands nothing,  if you want a good nice idea you can find out directly from Ten Hag. They are heading nowhere with this kind of play they will suffer if they move on to the next level.
They can not qualify successfully on the group with clow clubs like Galatasaray and the other club from Denmark and they wan to do same against clubs that topped their various groups.
By any means they lose out of Champions league and Europa League they Will go all out on qualifying in the Premier League.
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October 18, 2023, 02:13:18 PM
I was recounting Manchester United chances of qualifying from the group stage in this season's champions League and honestly the chances of Manchester United is very slim. I do not really understand what is wrong with Manchester United and what really happened to them. Honestly, Manchester United showed strength and commitment in the match against Bayern Munich much they didn't do their best in the match against Galatasary.

It is likely that Manchester United will go empty handed this season. This is because they will go to the Europa League and in the Europa League, there is Liverpool already there waiting to be the champions.
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October 18, 2023, 02:03:35 PM
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There is no doubt, Bayern Munich will finish easily as group A winners based on the results achieved in the two matches that have been played. I doubt that Manchester United can accompany Bayern Munich to the round of 16, their inconsistent performance makes their chances very slim.
Galatasaray only needs to make Bayern Munich fail to get full points when they visit their home ground, the good performance shown by Galatasaray in the domestic league must be maintained to frustrate Bayern Munich. Galatasaray's chances are better than Manchester United, your prediction is very correct based on the quality of the team and the results obtained in previous matches.
I don't think Manchester United will fail as long as they can improve their performance in the next 4 matches. It is true that Manchester United performed poorly in the first 2 matches, but they still have 4 other opportunities to try to qualify for the round of 16. The doubts don't only come from you, but the supporters also have doubts, but I think they are still worthy of hope.

In group F, Milan and Dortmund also seem to still have a chance of qualifying for the last 16. PSG and Newcastle cannot be expected to consistently win every subsequent match. So all the teams in group F still have the opportunity to win lots of points and improve their position. Every game is tough for all the teams in group F, so I'm not sure who will actually make it out of this group before they finish 5 games.
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October 18, 2023, 02:00:25 PM
I really like Arsenal as well. The progress they have made so far is just marvelous. They are even considered as the 4th biggest contender for the Champions League title by bookies now. However I see one thing in Arsenal that could create a big problem for them when they face bigger challenges in the tournament. That thing is the lack of experienced players in the squad. I mean of course some of their young players have also gained a lot of experience to even lead the team - like Odegaard who is the new captain.

But I think they needed players such as Xhaka as well. They parted ways with him as well in the summer and now they are a very young team. Let's see how far they can make it like this.
Arsenal made it to UEFA Champions League this season and they're exhibiting their very best performance. Gunners are 100% ready to face challenging opponents this season, due to the reason and determination, they won their long-term preeminent rival for EPL title this season with just a thrilled 1 nil winning. That victory really had a positive impacts on the team, Mikel Arteta and his men are ready to boosts their performance in UCL this season. I'm confident they would qualify from from their group, it's not a big deal for Gunners, their main priority is reaching crucial phases in the long run for EPL this season. Martin Odegaard and Bukayo Saka will lead the team to path of glory this season.
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October 18, 2023, 01:48:04 PM
Just like you, I think Bayern Munich will be the leader of group. I agrre with you Manchester United still has a chance to finish second in the group. However I don't think Manchester United will win their remaining four matches. For Manchester United to be second in the group, Copenhagen and Galatasaray must make a lot of mistakes. I think Copenhagen and Galatasaray will not make that many mistakes.
I agree with you strongly, Bayern Munich has the best chance to lead the group with the highest point current in the group. If they win their next match against Galatasaray they need no much effort again to be at the next stage of the league and I'm very optimistic about that as Bayern seem to be giving so much to making sure they get it right at the champions league.

Manchester united have a chance to be second, but that is so slim and almost close to impossible, because it will take them to win all four matches which is a 50/50 chances of happening, and the current status of Manchester united does not show they have that form to win all four matches back to back as Galatasaray is not wishing to be kicked out at group stage.

Playing to become the second position in the group with no point at this time will be really difficult except Manchester united will have to rotate players in-between the premier league and the champions league in order to keep them fit and strong enough to perform and give the results they need to be at the second position,if they dedicate more energy to the UCL for now and reduce that they put into premier league, they could get that results but sadly they are not doing well enough at the premier league to take such risk.
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October 18, 2023, 01:30:17 PM
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The important point is what they will do against the biggest title contenders. Especially against Manchester City and Bayern Munich I mean. If they manage to show a strong team performance with the help of their main scorer Bellingham too then I wouldn't be surprised to see Real Madrid adding another CL title to their collection.  Smiley
Hmm, this is just your imagination, and you centered it only on the teams you think can win the title, not considering teams like Arsenal that are in form and have the ability to defeat any team this season because of the talented young players in their squad. Nevertheless, it's your prediction, but remember that there are teams like Barcelona, Inter Milan, and others that are also capable of winning this league.

I really like Arsenal as well. The progress they have made so far is just marvelous. They are even considered as the 4th biggest contender for the Champions League title by bookies now. However I see one thing in Arsenal that could create a big problem for them when they face bigger challenges in the tournament. That thing is the lack of experienced players in the squad. I mean of course some of their young players have also gained a lot of experience to even lead the team - like Odegaard who is the new captain.

But I think they needed players such as Xhaka as well. They parted ways with him as well in the summer and now they are a very young team. Let's see how far they can make it like this.
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October 18, 2023, 01:12:40 PM
Based on their early performances this season, I put PSG at number three and AC Milan at number one with Newcastle at number two. As expected, Newcastle have been performing well in the Champions League but AC Milan have failed to perform at their best. After two matches each, Newcastle are on top of the table followed by PSG on second and AC Milan on third. Each team has one match left and that one match is important for each team. Those who can get full points in the last game will be able to secure the number one or two position in the points table so I see potential for all teams to do well but I want Newcastle and AC Milan ahead.
I don't sure with AC Milan has opportunity finish on 1st or 2nd placed in Champion League group stage, next games PSG become their opponent team after failure with three points achievement in last two matches against Newcastle United and Dortmund. I think PSG still favorite team for first standings position finish and Newcastle United will finish on second place under PSG position. Milan still in poor performance in Champion, although not beaten yet but two matches draw in a row make difficult position lead to knock out round due PSG have winning one match and lead 1 point from Milan.

Lets waiting with next match result between PSG vs Milan, if fail with three points achievement I think Milan opportunity qualify to knock out round almost close exactly if Newcastle United winning over Dortmund.
I agree that it is going to be possible for them but not going to be easy at all. I mean think about it this way, we are talking about a situation where we can see Milan having trouble behind Newcastle and PSG as well, which wouldn't be unlikely.

But, the worst case is they will go back down to Europa and they should be fine there, depending on their draw luck they could go all the way to finals as well. It is not easy to do that but it is also not that hard for a team their talent level as well. Unless they face some team that is much better like Liverpool of course. Milan should instead focus on the league, they should be able to win the title this season if they put their mind into it, and they are doing fine, so it should be possible.
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October 18, 2023, 10:37:25 AM
If you look at the two that have been played, of course it is predicted that Bayern Munich will be the leader of group A. In my opinion, teams like Manchester United, Galatasaray and FC Copenhagen still have the same big chance of qualifying for the last 16 of the UCL. . My prediction is in group A
1 Bayern Munich
2 Galatasaray
3 Manchester United
4 FC Copenhagen

Galatasaray should not be taken lightly, they managed to beat Man United previously. I'm also not sure that Man United can win the remaining four matches, in fact I'm more inclined to make Man United make more mistakes than Galatasaray.
I agree with your scenario, it is difficult for Manchester United to wipe out the remaining four matches in the UCL group phase, because two matches are a little easier to play and win, namely when they face Copenhagen, the rest United have to face Galatasaray and Bayern Munchen again. At the first meeting, United had already received defeat from both clubs, perhaps the most realistic thing for United was to achieve a draw in these two matches.

If United finish in third place, then Ten Hag will bring his squad to compete in the Europa League. However, it should be noted that Copenhagen is currently still better than United in Group A, they have one point while Manchester United has none.
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October 18, 2023, 10:36:40 AM
Just like you, I think Bayern Munich will be the leader of group. I agrre with you Manchester United still has a chance to finish second in the group. However I don't think Manchester United will win their remaining four matches. For Manchester United to be second in the group, Copenhagen and Galatasaray must make a lot of mistakes. I think Copenhagen and Galatasaray will not make that many mistakes.

If you look at the two that have been played, of course it is predicted that Bayern Munich will be the leader of group A. In my opinion, teams like Manchester United, Galatasaray and FC Copenhagen still have the same big chance of qualifying for the last 16 of the UCL. . My prediction is in group A
1 Bayern Munich
2 Galatasaray
3 Manchester United
4 FC Copenhagen

Galatasaray should not be taken lightly, they managed to beat Man United previously. I'm also not sure that Man United can win the remaining four matches, in fact I'm more inclined to make Man United make more mistakes than Galatasaray.
There is no doubt, Bayern Munich will finish easily as group A winners based on the results achieved in the two matches that have been played. I doubt that Manchester United can accompany Bayern Munich to the round of 16, their inconsistent performance makes their chances very slim.
Galatasaray only needs to make Bayern Munich fail to get full points when they visit their home ground, the good performance shown by Galatasaray in the domestic league must be maintained to frustrate Bayern Munich. Galatasaray's chances are better than Manchester United, your prediction is very correct based on the quality of the team and the results obtained in previous matches.
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October 18, 2023, 09:47:56 AM
Just like you, I think Bayern Munich will be the leader of group. I agrre with you Manchester United still has a chance to finish second in the group. However I don't think Manchester United will win their remaining four matches. For Manchester United to be second in the group, Copenhagen and Galatasaray must make a lot of mistakes. I think Copenhagen and Galatasaray will not make that many mistakes.

If you look at the two that have been played, of course it is predicted that Bayern Munich will be the leader of group A. In my opinion, teams like Manchester United, Galatasaray and FC Copenhagen still have the same big chance of qualifying for the last 16 of the UCL. . My prediction is in group A
1 Bayern Munich
2 Galatasaray
3 Manchester United
4 FC Copenhagen

Galatasaray should not be taken lightly, they managed to beat Man United previously. I'm also not sure that Man United can win the remaining four matches, in fact I'm more inclined to make Man United make more mistakes than Galatasaray.
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October 18, 2023, 09:32:39 AM
Manchester City until now played without De Bruyne and they can still achieve 3rd position in Premier League and won 2 matches in Champions League. They're already been great so far, even though De Bruyne is currently a Manchester City's heart.

De Bruyne will also get older, it's just a part of regeneration and Manchester City seems quite success since they're still in good form.

It was wonderful that Manchester City were able to play and win without De Bruyne; they should get used to it now, as should other key players in the club, so that when they are out injured or suspended, they can still play and win all of their matches till they return. If it wasn't for Rodri's suspension, which resulted in two losses for Manchester City, I don't think De Bruyne's absence would have had much of an impact. Manchester City will undoubtedly finish higher than the other top clubs in the league and in the Champions League games.

Yes, maybe you are right. 4 more matches will be played. As you said, Manchester United will win these 4 matches and Manchester United will finish on 1st position. But right now, as I said, things are not going well for Manchester United. Casemiro is suspended due to a red card. There are many injured players. Also Manchester United's performance is very unstable.

Even before several of their players were injured and underperforming, Manchester United's previous performance cannot be compared to that of Bayern Munich, and they are far superior to them and will finish ahead of them in the group stage. Manchester United still has a chance to finish second in the group because they have four more matches to play, but I doubt they can beat Bayern Munich in their second leg clash. If they lose or draw a point with Bayern Munich, they will be disqualified from finishing first, and Bayern Munich will almost certainly win their remaining four matches.

Just like you, I think Bayern Munich will be the leader of group. I agrre with you Manchester United still has a chance to finish second in the group. However I don't think Manchester United will win their remaining four matches. For Manchester United to be second in the group, Copenhagen and Galatasaray must make a lot of mistakes. I think Copenhagen and Galatasaray will not make that many mistakes.
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October 18, 2023, 08:25:09 AM
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If you mean that Union Berlin couldn't challenge Real Madrid in regards to the number of chances both teams produced, then you are correct. But it was still very close for Real Madrid to drop 2 points against Union Berlin. These smaller teams aren't without chances to at least keep a point in those games against Real Madrid and Napoli, but for Madrid the most important game was the one against Napoli in Italy. That game was like tossing a coin as Napoli could have won it as well. They were equally performing the whole game and Madrid had a bit more luck. It may have some consequences for Napoli if they make a mistake against one of the weaker teams.

In fact, Real Madrid really struggled to win the match against Union Berlin, in fact they had to wait for 90+4 to score 1 goal. The match against Napoli was certainly tougher, but Real Madrid also struggled to win the match. They still have 4 games and I don't think Real Madrid will be able to win them all without mistakes. But whatever it is, Real Madrid is the favorite to qualify for the round of 16.

This week Real Madrid will visit the Ramón Sánchez Pizjuán Stadium for a La Liga match. Then Madrid will visit the Municipal de Braga Stadium for the 3rd match of the Champions League group stage. The players will of course lack rest time, especially as several players are also called up to the national team for EURO qualifiers or other competitions. I think it will have an impact on the team's performance because of fatigue.

The game against Napoli was probably their qualification for the round of 16 already because that was the game when most expected them to potentially not win all 3 points, but now that it ended with a win and since the Union Berlin game also ended with 3 points for them, it is unlikely that they will get into similar situations during the next games. There is no need to win against Napoli at home as a draw would probably be enough and the two games against Braga won't be a failure either. The big pressure is already gone.
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October 18, 2023, 07:38:11 AM
In fact, Manchester City is still performing well in the Champions League at the moment even without Kevin de Bruyne and managed to win the match against Leipzig, who are the strongest rivals in Group G, even though they have experienced 2 defeats in the Premier League this is really a shame, but I am sure Pep Guardiola wont only relying on Kevin de Bruyne, he still has several other key players, but we also don't know to what extent Manchester City will be able to survive without Kevin de Bruyne, but what is clear at the moment is that even though Manchester City has not appeared completely consistent, what is clear is that Pep Guardiola will soon fix things midfield at the club to be able to improve Manchester City current performance.
Pep Guardiola definitely has a backup strategy in carrying out this season in the Champions League and Premier League so that Manchester City can continue to appear strong in all competitions even though key players like Kevin de Bruyne cannot play as hard as they are currently. I am quite sure that Manchester City will not be weak enough this season because Pep Guardiola has a way of placing substitutes in midfield in order to continue to have a better defense and attack line.
The backup strategy was not going well like what it's planned. Manchester city lack of good attacking midfielders. The creativity of midfielders dropped so hard caused by city was losing some important players. There was still rodri but it's likely that if manchester city will not be playing like last season caused by the club was missing de bruyne. Rodri is good, but the club needs someone who can play as good as de bruyne. There has been speculation that Pep is considering purchasing Dani Olmo from Leipzig as a replacement for De Bruyne, however, I personally believe that this plan is quite far from becoming a reality.
There have been also many clubs linked to him. Despite the city's impressive achievement of winning the treble last season, the probability of them obtaining Olmo remains quite small.

Pep needs also to prepare another plan for the team. Haaland can't do that alone. I know that haaland is a great striker, but it's impossible to see him play like last season without someone who was helping him like de bruyne.
De bruyne was consistently assisting him last season. Haaland is struggling to score against the opponent. We are still more than 1 month away from the winter transfer window.
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October 18, 2023, 06:03:21 AM
Based on their early performances this season, I put PSG at number three and AC Milan at number one with Newcastle at number two. As expected, Newcastle have been performing well in the Champions League but AC Milan have failed to perform at their best. After two matches each, Newcastle are on top of the table followed by PSG on second and AC Milan on third. Each team has one match left and that one match is important for each team. Those who can get full points in the last game will be able to secure the number one or two position in the points table so I see potential for all teams to do well but I want Newcastle and AC Milan ahead.
I don't sure with AC Milan has opportunity finish on 1st or 2nd placed in Champion League group stage, next games PSG become their opponent team after failure with three points achievement in last two matches against Newcastle United and Dortmund. I think PSG still favorite team for first standings position finish and Newcastle United will finish on second place under PSG position. Milan still in poor performance in Champion, although not beaten yet but two matches draw in a row make difficult position lead to knock out round due PSG have winning one match and lead 1 point from Milan.

Lets waiting with next match result between PSG vs Milan, if fail with three points achievement I think Milan opportunity qualify to knock out round almost close exactly if Newcastle United winning over Dortmund.
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October 18, 2023, 05:42:10 AM
I would have expected Milan to be the leader in Group F. Because I really liked their game against Newcastle in the first match. They could have just been better at finishing. I expected them to improve this side against Dortmund however that match also ended in a 0-0 draw. Milan are just in 3rd place with 0 goals scored and conceded.  Grin

Newcastle's show against PSG was really too much. Technically their squad quality is way below PSG but team performance changes everything. If Newcastle collect at least 4 points from Dortmund then they can even finish the group as the leader.

My prediction was that PSG would be the group champion of this group and AC Milan would be second. But now it seems unlikely that this will happen. The Newcastle team is changing all accounts. Newcastle are now at the top of the table after a draw with Milan in the first leg and a big win over PSG in the second. Dortmund, on the other hand, is at the bottom of the points table.

The most inexperienced team in this group is Newcastle. Still they are able to perform well. And their match strategy is excellent. I think the team will be able to qualify for the knockout round. But it is very difficult to predict which team will finish second in the table at the moment. I consider PSG as favorites for second place in the table.
Based on their early performances this season, I put PSG at number three and AC Milan at number one with Newcastle at number two. As expected, Newcastle have been performing well in the Champions League but AC Milan have failed to perform at their best. After two matches each, Newcastle are on top of the table followed by PSG on second and AC Milan on third. Each team has one match left and that one match is important for each team. Those who can get full points in the last game will be able to secure the number one or two position in the points table so I see potential for all teams to do well but I want Newcastle and AC Milan ahead.
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October 18, 2023, 05:33:28 AM
Manchester City until now played without De Bruyne and they can still achieve 3rd position in Premier League and won 2 matches in Champions League. They're already been great so far, even though De Bruyne is currently a Manchester City's heart.

De Bruyne will also get older, it's just a part of regeneration and Manchester City seems quite success since they're still in good form.
Yes, Manchester City is still performing well even without De Bruyne, thanks to other quality midfielders like Julian Alvarez and Phil Foden who are in excellent form. However, Manchester City is involved in several competitions, including the Community Shield, UEFA Super Cup, FA Cup, EFL Carabao Cup, Premier League, and the Champions League. So, De Bruyne's return is crucial for Manchester City's ambitions.
Overall, Man City has a relatively good performance even though they are playing without Kevin De Bruyne. But if we look at their last 4 matches, Man City seems to have experienced a decline in performance, and I think this is a problem that Guardiola must immediately address. Kevin De Bruyne is one of Man City's key players, and it is very likely that Man City will be a lot stronger when Kevin De Bruyne can play again.
Unfortunately, De Bruyne will most likely return to the field around December or even in the middle of the season. Because it is in accordance with the news circulating. After the operation he underwent. De Bruyne is likely to be out for around 4 months. So as long as De Bruyne is still absent, Guardiola still has to keep his squad strong without the player's presence. And yes, currently Man City seems to be having more difficulty maintaining their best performance. Or it could be said that Man City's consistency is starting to falter at this time.

But even though Man City has experienced a decline in performance, this club will still be able to maintain their superiority in every competition they currently face. Because in fact, even though De Bruyne returns to the field, it is not certain that De Bruyne will immediately return to his best performance. He definitely has to adapt to his condition after the injury.
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