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The condition of Liverpool players is very good. They don't have any major problems with regards to players. So they are able to rotate players well, so that the players are maintained so that not many players are injured. This is much different from the condition of Real Madrid which has many injured players and currently the UCL format has changed, so we can see the current results. Real Madrid was unable to perform well and lost points. Another problem is that Ancelotti does not seem to have full faith in young players such as Endrick and Guller.

Real Madrid are unlucky with this, I don't know if it's just a coincidence, or if the reason for such frequent injuries should be sought within the team, in the training processes, perhaps, but Ancelotti didn't have such problems before. Liverpool are fine with this, all the players are ready to play and therefore I think they have a good advantage. I just remembered last season, when Xavi had a period when at some point almost half the team was injured, and now Flick's team is fine, I think that the loads in training also play a role.

This season, Real Madrid is not in good form. We can see the deterioration of Real Madrid's performance after Mbappe joined the squad. Especially, we cannot see better performance from Bellingham and Rodrygo this season. Mbappe is also not able to perform well as expected. Due to this, Real Madrid's performance is a bit irregular in both the Champions League and La Liga. On the other hand, Barcelona is in great rhythm with the help of Hansi Flick. Although they lost the first match of the Champions League, Barcelona played well in the next three matches and won. Barcelona is also at the top of the table in La Liga.

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That's what we want to hear from Real Madrid about their seriousness in responding to the problem of player recruitment. With stable finances, there is no club that is more stable than Madrid in terms of finances, so there is nothing wrong with spending money to buy some quality players. The January transfer window is very important because many injured core players will make Madrid even more underestimated by other teams in the Champions League competition.

I also think that Real Madrid should be willing to take advantage of the moment in the January transfer market because besides being able to help teams that are experiencing injuries to their important players, Real Madrid this season is really not strong enough in their midfield so they often have difficulty in creating their best passes in every match. So it's not wrong from what you said because Madrid really has to fix some lines that are still weak by relying on new recruitment in January.

After Toni Kroos retired, Real Madrid could not organize the midfield. In fact, they did not try to convince the German player not to retire. I think he should have played for Real Madrid for a few more years. Look, after the German retired, Real Madrid fell behind a lot in the midfield. They also make some mistakes in the defense area and had very surprising results in the Champions League this year. Many people thought that they could be at the top of the Champions League, but if they lose against Liverpool now, they will probably play in the playoffs. This is a Champions League qualifying stage where Real Madrid fell far short of my expectations. Of course, I think they will make transfers to the defense and midfield in the January transfer window to fix these.

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Quote from: naira on November 12, 2024, 06:27:21 PM

That's what we want to hear from Real Madrid about their seriousness in responding to the problem of player recruitment. With stable finances, there is no club that is more stable than Madrid in terms of finances, so there is nothing wrong with spending money to buy some quality players. The January transfer window is very important because many injured core players will make Madrid even more underestimated by other teams in the Champions League competition.

I also think that Real Madrid should be willing to take advantage of the moment in the January transfer market because besides being able to help teams that are experiencing injuries to their important players, Real Madrid this season is really not strong enough in their midfield so they often have difficulty in creating their best passes in every match. So it's not wrong from what you said because Madrid really has to fix some lines that are still weak by relying on new recruitment in January.

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Last seasons hero Carlos Ancelotti is currently the biggest zero we call this is soccer in last season as we have double for the Real Madrid everyone is calling him one of the best but due to injuries and having poor start of the season suddenly things take quick changes, and now he is under huge pressure even on brink of losing his job which could be not ideal for the Real Madrid and boss Ancelotti because he deserves time to fix problems.

One thing I noticed was that real Madrid have a lot of money, but they didn't spend it on new players. They won UCL last time through which they made good money but they didn't spend it on new players. They need to speed some good money in the January transfer windows to bring up some good players to replace their injuries.

That's what we want to hear from Real Madrid about their seriousness in responding to the problem of player recruitment. With stable finances, there is no club that is more stable than Madrid in terms of finances, so there is nothing wrong with spending money to buy some quality players. The January transfer window is very important because many injured core players will make Madrid even more underestimated by other teams in the Champions League competition.

Real Madrid, who ended the season by only signing Kylian Mbappé this year, is struggling with many injuries. Maybe they can make transfers to replace some players who are injured for a long time. For example, they can get a player instead of Carvajal. Since he ended the season, he will not play any more this season. Also, since the Champions League is very important for Real Madrid, they will have set their minds on being successful on this platform. They are also doing well in the Spanish league, but they are behind Barcelona. However, they were completely disappointing in the Champions League.

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Quote from: Luzin on November 12, 2024, 10:46:05 PM

The condition of Liverpool players is very good. They don't have any major problems with regards to players. So they are able to rotate players well, so that the players are maintained so that not many players are injured. This is much different from the condition of Real Madrid which has many injured players and currently the UCL format has changed, so we can see the current results. Real Madrid was unable to perform well and lost points. Another problem is that Ancelotti does not seem to have full faith in young players such as Endrick and Guller.

Real Madrid are unlucky with this, I don't know if it's just a coincidence, or if the reason for such frequent injuries should be sought within the team, in the training processes, perhaps, but Ancelotti didn't have such problems before. Liverpool are fine with this, all the players are ready to play and therefore I think they have a good advantage. I just remembered last season, when Xavi had a period when at some point almost half the team was injured, and now Flick's team is fine, I think that the loads in training also play a role.

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Quote from: Smartvirus on November 12, 2024, 06:37:00 PM

Given the current state of the team, anyone who doesn’t know Real Madrid so much could easily speculate such. Maybe we have a new generation of players on the team, competing amongst themselves rather than playing like a United team but, they often get the job done when it comes to the UCL. Real Madrid sure do give it there all and you can expect that in every UCL game. I was greatly surprised how they came from 2 goals behind to beat Dortmund 4:2. Only Real Madrid could be said to be capable of such. Even with a minute on the clock, Real Madrid could do the unbelievable just to qualify. I wouldn’t underestimate them in the UCL. For the Laliga, it’s a different story.

Exactly, I still see Real Madrid as the strongest team in Champions League. They might be not smooth in qualification, but I believe they will qualify for playoff and then they will slowly improve to become a champion.

Unfortunately Real Madrid need to face two strong teams which are Liverpool and Atalanta, don't be surprised if Real Madrid will not win in that two match.

Never underestimate Real Madrid except their journey have been stopped.

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Quote from: tusandii on November 12, 2024, 10:25:58 PM

Real Madrid has lost points in the 2 matches they played, they really need points in the remaining matches because if they continue to lose I'm not sure Madrid can secure a place in the top 8, but I think maybe this match will end in a draw or Liverpool will suffer a narrow defeat, but even though losing it doesn't have a big impact on Liverpool because he has not tasted defeat in the UCL so far.

The condition of Liverpool players is very good. They don't have any major problems with regards to players. So they are able to rotate players well, so that the players are maintained so that not many players are injured. This is much different from the condition of Real Madrid which has many injured players and currently the UCL format has changed, so we can see the current results. Real Madrid was unable to perform well and lost points. Another problem is that Ancelotti does not seem to have full faith in young players such as Endrick and Guller.

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Real Madrid will face Liverpool upcoming match in UEFA Champion League and crucial match for Madrid after defeating by Milan last match, must secure three points if won't loss opportunity reach the top eight place get qualify to knock out round.
In other side, Liverpool have impressive performance in Champion League after winning 4 of 4 matches and leading the first position awhile. Most incredible performance of Liverpool they have faster counter attack and Madrid get difficult how to anticipation when their defend players support for moving up.

Madrid have advantage due the international break after some players got injury, Rodrygo, Militao and Valquez have injured and seems not have opportunity will play when facing Liverpool or Carlo Ancelotti have prepare youth players for filling the central defender and right defender position.

It seems like Liverpool will have a better chance because apart from being hosts, we know Liverpool will also benefit because Real Madrid will also be playing without several of their mainstay players who are currently injured. Real Madrid's defense looks like it will really be in trouble if Ancelotti really doesn't make the best solution for it. But the young players who are prepared could surprise us with a performance that might be quite good. There is a slight doubt that I feel about Real Madrid. But Ancelotti usually always has a solution for every problem Real Madrid faces every season. And it would be very bad if Real Madrid dropped points again. At least Real Madrid must be able to hold Liverpool to a draw in this match. But if Real Madrid wins then it could be a comeback for Real Madrid in the UCL.

I still doubt Madrid's performance in this match because Liverpool is very hot this season, and they're ready to burn whoever crosses their path, which might make it very difficult for Real Madrid to walk away with three points. I could remember how I had so much confidence in Madrid in their last match against Milan, but I got disappointed and lost my bet because Milan was able to win Madrid easily in Bernabeu, talk more of Madrid playing away with a club that's topping the table of their domestic league.

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Real Madrid's journey in the Champions League looks so difficult this season, they face clubs that are quite tough to qualify for the last 16, if they experience a 3rd defeat, their position will be even more threatened because they have to fight again in the play-off round, it will make Real Madrid's schedule even tighter this season. I also don't think Liverpool will back down to Real Madrid in this match and if they can beat Real Madrid, it will reduce the competition in the UCL if Real Madrid does not qualify when they have to compete in the play-off round.

It will not be that interesting if Real Madrid leaves UCL in this early stage, but don't you think that it would be good news for other clubs because the mighty has fallen. However, I don't think that it will be possible for Real Madrid not to qualify into the next round, because I believe Ancelotti will take this match very serious and his players very personal. When it comes to very important matches like this, Real Madrid knows how to smuggle their way out to victory. But the problem now is that will Liverpool fold their arms and accept defeat at home.

Well that's the question right now with Liverpool's impressive performance this season, it's clear they really want to beat the strong candidate for the Champions League on the other hand Real Madrid has lost points in the 2 matches they played, they really need points in the remaining matches because if they continue to lose I'm not sure Madrid can secure a place in the top 8, but I think maybe this match will end in a draw or Liverpool will suffer a narrow defeat, but even though losing it doesn't have a big impact on Liverpool because he has not tasted defeat in the UCL so far.

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Real Madrid will face Liverpool upcoming match in UEFA Champion League and crucial match for Madrid after defeating by Milan last match, must secure three points if won't loss opportunity reach the top eight place get qualify to knock out round.
In other side, Liverpool have impressive performance in Champion League after winning 4 of 4 matches and leading the first position awhile. Most incredible performance of Liverpool they have faster counter attack and Madrid get difficult how to anticipation when their defend players support for moving up.

Madrid have advantage due the international break after some players got injury, Rodrygo, Militao and Valquez have injured and seems not have opportunity will play when facing Liverpool or Carlo Ancelotti have prepare youth players for filling the central defender and right defender position.

It seems like Liverpool will have a better chance because apart from being hosts, we know Liverpool will also benefit because Real Madrid will also be playing without several of their mainstay players who are currently injured. Real Madrid's defense looks like it will really be in trouble if Ancelotti really doesn't make the best solution for it. But the young players who are prepared could surprise us with a performance that might be quite good. There is a slight doubt that I feel about Real Madrid. But Ancelotti usually always has a solution for every problem Real Madrid faces every season. And it would be very bad if Real Madrid dropped points again. At least Real Madrid must be able to hold Liverpool to a draw in this match. But if Real Madrid wins then it could be a comeback for Real Madrid in the UCL.

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Quote from: KTChampions on November 12, 2024, 05:51:02 PM

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It will not be that interesting if Real Madrid leaves UCL in this early stage, but don't you think that it would be good news for other clubs because the mighty has fallen. However, I don't think that it will be possible for Real Madrid not to qualify into the next round, because I believe Ancelotti will take this match very serious and his players very personal. When it comes to very important matches like this, Real Madrid knows how to smuggle their way out to victory. But the problem now is that will Liverpool fold their arms and accept defeat at home.

Let's say Real doesn't make it into the top 8 and they have to play preliminary playoffs. But what place do you think they will take? If 9-10, then they will play against the team that took 23-24 place. If 11-13, then against the team from 21-22 place, etc.

It depends on the results of the remaining 4 games. A win is needed to improve their ranking in the standings, but the problem is they will face Liverpool in the next game. If they lose at Anfield, they will fall into the relegation zone. They will also face Atalanta who are in top form, Madrid chances of getting 3 points are very small because Atalanta have been impressive and very productive this season.

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What are the chances of Real finishing so low that they will get a really strong team (+ which will have two lucky days haha)? I think this probability is measured in a few percent.

In my opinion, Madrid chances of finishing in a better position are very small based on their performance and the opponents they face in the next 4 matches.

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Quote from: Ahli38 on November 12, 2024, 08:03:21 PM

Yes, that's right and on the other hand, the position as host will really benefit Liverpool in this match. And of course it would be a bad result for Real Madrid if they failed to get full points again. A draw could happen in this match but that will not be good enough for Real Madrid who have suffered two defeats from 4 matches this season in the Champions League.

And I noticed that Real Madrid won more often when they used their classic formation, namely 4-3-3. And when this formation is used, Vini Jr actually seems to always be the hero for Real Madrid. Because the last time this formation was used was in two matches, namely the matches against Dortmund and Osasuna, we saw Vini Jr score a hat trick in both matches. And what's even stranger is that Mbappe didn't score a goal in the two matches using this formation.

Real Madrid will face Liverpool upcoming match in UEFA Champion League and crucial match for Madrid after defeating by Milan last match, must secure three points if won't loss opportunity reach the top eight place get qualify to knock out round.
In other side, Liverpool have impressive performance in Champion League after winning 4 of 4 matches and leading the first position awhile. Most incredible performance of Liverpool they have faster counter attack and Madrid get difficult how to anticipation when their defend players support for moving up.

Madrid have advantage due the international break after some players got injury, Rodrygo, Militao and Valquez have injured and seems not have opportunity will play when facing Liverpool or Carlo Ancelotti have prepare youth players for filling the central defender and right defender position.

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Quote from: Silence Scream on November 11, 2024, 02:11:41 PM

The fact that the match will be played in England will put Real Madrid at a disadvantage. However, I think they will be psychologically ready since Real Madrid goes to away games a lot. In addition, Ancelotti will be able to establish order in the team after the unsuccessful results they have had in recent games. If they win against Liverpool, the dose of criticism against Ancelotti may be reduced. Therefore, the Liverpool match will be one of the critical games for Ancelotti.

Yes, that's right and on the other hand, the position as host will really benefit Liverpool in this match. And of course it would be a bad result for Real Madrid if they failed to get full points again. A draw could happen in this match but that will not be good enough for Real Madrid who have suffered two defeats from 4 matches this season in the Champions League.

And I noticed that Real Madrid won more often when they used their classic formation, namely 4-3-3. And when this formation is used, Vini Jr actually seems to always be the hero for Real Madrid. Because the last time this formation was used was in two matches, namely the matches against Dortmund and Osasuna, we saw Vini Jr score a hat trick in both matches. And what's even stranger is that Mbappe didn't score a goal in the two matches using this formation.

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Quote from: uchegod-21 on November 12, 2024, 06:30:18 PM

Has people really analysed that Real Madrid chances of qualifying the top 8 is very limited? It will not just sound well if they don't qualify expressly. Right from the beginning of this season's champions league under the new format, I have never seen Real Madrid at the top. Maybe something is cooking, something that will suprise many.

Given the current state of the team, anyone who doesn’t know Real Madrid so much could easily speculate such. Maybe we have a new generation of players on the team, competing amongst themselves rather than playing like a United team but, they often get the job done when it comes to the UCL. Real Madrid sure do give it there all and you can expect that in every UCL game. I was greatly surprised how they came from 2 goals behind to beat Dortmund 4:2. Only Real Madrid could be said to be capable of such. Even with a minute on the clock, Real Madrid could do the unbelievable just to qualify. I wouldn’t underestimate them in the UCL. For the Laliga, it’s a different story.

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A draw would not be surprising, but it would not be good for Madrid. I think Liverpool will still be safe even with a draw. but a different situation will happen to Madrid who will try hard to get a win. Madrid did not get good enough results in the Champions League, they will definitely try to get the best results in the remaining matches even though they have to fight very hard. it is clear that it will not be easy to win at Liverpool's home with Liverpool's current performance. a big challenge for Ancelotti and proves how Madrid's strength is not yet exhausted.

If Liverpool draws with Real Madrid, then Ancelotti must prepare additional energy to advance to the last 16 through the play-offs. If Real Madrid loses, then Liverpool should be considered as the favorite candidate to win the title this season. We realize that there is a lot at stake for Los Blancos in the match, and the course of the match is certain to be troublesome for both teams. With the new match taking place after the international break, it is still very difficult to predict the readiness of both teams. What is clear for now, Ancelotti and Arne Slot hope that their players who defend the country can return in good condition.

Real Madrid's journey in the Champions League looks so difficult this season, they face clubs that are quite tough to qualify for the last 16, if they experience a 3rd defeat, their position will be even more threatened because they have to fight again in the play-off round, it will make Real Madrid's schedule even tighter this season. I also don't think Liverpool will back down to Real Madrid in this match and if they can beat Real Madrid, it will reduce the competition in the UCL if Real Madrid does not qualify when they have to compete in the play-off round.

It will not be that interesting if Real Madrid leaves UCL in this early stage, but don't you think that it would be good news for other clubs because the mighty has fallen. However, I don't think that it will be possible for Real Madrid not to qualify into the next round, because I believe Ancelotti will take this match very serious and his players very personal. When it comes to very important matches like this, Real Madrid knows how to smuggle their way out to victory. But the problem now is that will Liverpool fold their arms and accept defeat at home.

Real Madrid leaving Champions League competition at this stage is possible seeing how the team is struggling and the number or games they have lost so far but then their possible exit will be beneficial for other teams to shine since they are the biggest and best team in the champions League competition so more good teams will be lucky to shine when Real Madrid is finally out.

Real Madrid team has a good way of getting shocking results when we least expect no doubt and their coach Ancelotti knows how to do the job but then you agree that this season the Real Madrid team is not having the performance they used to have in the champions League competition and that is the major reason why I don't think they will be able to defeat a team like Liverpool team whose performance this season is one of the finest in the champions League competition game so far this season, I think Real Madrid should come back and tey again next season because Liverpool will not let them shine not this time.

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It will not be that interesting if Real Madrid leaves UCL in this early stage, but don't you think that it would be good news for other clubs because the mighty has fallen. However, I don't think that it will be possible for Real Madrid not to qualify into the next round, because I believe Ancelotti will take this match very serious and his players very personal. When it comes to very important matches like this, Real Madrid knows how to smuggle their way out to victory. But the problem now is that will Liverpool fold their arms and accept defeat at home.

Let's say Real doesn't make it into the top 8 and they have to play preliminary playoffs. But what place do you think they will take? If 9-10, then they will play against the team that took 23-24 place. If 11-13, then against the team from 21-22 place, etc.
What are the chances of Real finishing so low that they will get a really strong team (+ which will have two lucky days haha)? I think this probability is measured in a few percent.

Has people really analysed that Real Madrid chances of qualifying the top 8 is very limited? It will not just sound well if they don't qualify expressly. Right from the beginning of this season's champions league under the new format, I have never seen Real Madrid at the top. Maybe something is cooking, something that will suprise many.

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Quote from: doomloop on November 12, 2024, 09:56:31 AM

Last seasons hero Carlos Ancelotti is currently the biggest zero we call this is soccer in last season as we have double for the Real Madrid everyone is calling him one of the best but due to injuries and having poor start of the season suddenly things take quick changes, and now he is under huge pressure even on brink of losing his job which could be not ideal for the Real Madrid and boss Ancelotti because he deserves time to fix problems.

One thing I noticed was that real Madrid have a lot of money, but they didn't spend it on new players. They won UCL last time through which they made good money but they didn't spend it on new players. They need to speed some good money in the January transfer windows to bring up some good players to replace their injuries.

That's what we want to hear from Real Madrid about their seriousness in responding to the problem of player recruitment. With stable finances, there is no club that is more stable than Madrid in terms of finances, so there is nothing wrong with spending money to buy some quality players. The January transfer window is very important because many injured core players will make Madrid even more underestimated by other teams in the Champions League competition.

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Quote from: Frankolala on November 12, 2024, 11:17:49 AM

It will not be that interesting if Real Madrid leaves UCL in this early stage, but don't you think that it would be good news for other clubs because the mighty has fallen. However, I don't think that it will be possible for Real Madrid not to qualify into the next round, because I believe Ancelotti will take this match very serious and his players very personal. When it comes to very important matches like this, Real Madrid knows how to smuggle their way out to victory. But the problem now is that will Liverpool fold their arms and accept defeat at home.

Let's say Real doesn't make it into the top 8 and they have to play preliminary playoffs. But what place do you think they will take? If 9-10, then they will play against the team that took 23-24 place. If 11-13, then against the team from 21-22 place, etc.
What are the chances of Real finishing so low that they will get a really strong team (+ which will have two lucky days haha)? I think this probability is measured in a few percent.

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Quote from: doomloop on November 12, 2024, 09:56:31 AM

Last seasons hero Carlos Ancelotti is currently the biggest zero we call this is soccer in last season as we have double for the Real Madrid everyone is calling him one of the best but due to injuries and having poor start of the season suddenly things take quick changes, and now he is under huge pressure even on brink of losing his job which could be not ideal for the Real Madrid and boss Ancelotti because he deserves time to fix problems.

Hahaha, that sounds so Hilariou.
The ex-hero has now become the zero. Real Madrid are in serious trouble all of their crucial players have been injured, and that's why their performances are not too good. Carlos Angelotti is a good coach he knows everything about Real Madrid but in this season theirs, a lot of injuries happen to players and that's why Carlos Angelotti tactics did not work properly. Real Madrid needs to bring up some new players in the January transfer windows; otherwise it will be so hard for them to compete in leagues such as the UEFA champions league etc.

One thing I noticed was that real Madrid have a lot of money, but they didn't spend it on new players. They won UCL last time through which they made good money but they didn't spend it on new players. They need to speed some good money in the January transfer windows to bring up some good players to replace their injuries.

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Quote from: Frankolala on November 12, 2024, 11:17:49 AM

It will not be that interesting if Real Madrid leaves UCL in this early stage, but don't you think that it would be good news for other clubs because the mighty has fallen. However, I don't think that it will be possible for Real Madrid not to qualify into the next round, because I believe Ancelotti will take this match very serious and his players very personal. When it comes to very important matches like this, Real Madrid knows how to smuggle their way out to victory. But the problem now is that will Liverpool fold their arms and accept defeat at home.

I doubt if Real Madrid will resign to fate in the group stage because if they are not able to advance further, it's gonna kill their morale even in their league games such that the season will just become a very big disaster for them and it might affect them till next season. Madrid is a big club with lots of big players so it will be very shameful for them not to qualify for the next stages. Ancelotti is a professional coach and i believe he knows what he's doing and Real Madrid is a team that you can't completely say they are not in form because when you are about to think they are not in form, that's when they pull surprises. The challenges they're facing currently is as a result of the injuries they are faced with but i trust Ancelotti to apply the right techniques that will make the team become stronger again. Liverpool is in a very good look now but they can still bow to Madrid and get defeated.

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