Topic: UEFA Champions League 2024/25 Season - page 117. (Read 55756 times)

However, with Barcelona's position as host, it is quite natural that Barcelona is still the favorite to win this match. But somehow it seems interesting to choose a draw in this match. And I think many of us here are not sure about the choice. Either you have to favor the home team, namely Barcelona, ​​or the visiting team, namely Bayern. Both teams seem to have started the season equally well with their respective new coaches. After replacing Xavi, we know that Hansi Flick has succeeded in bringing positive results for Barcelona in La Liga. And Bayern also experienced the same thing, which experienced another improvement after Tuchel was replaced by Vincent Kompany. But if we talk about playing style then honestly I prefer the style that Hansi Flick created at Barcelona. So I feel quite confident that Barcelona will play very well and make it difficult for their opponents who come to Barcelona's home ground.

The rate for Barcelona seems much lower than Bayern Munich and this can be how people expect to see Bayern Munich wins this match against Barcelona. However, both coaches Flick and Kompaney had good starts so far in the games we saw from them they were much better than we were expected to see from these two.
But still, the fact about Kompany is he is not experienced in the harder games while the main weakness for Barcelona is not having experienced defenders.

PSG will reach the playoffs but they may have to play a few more games in that case. Dembele was absent from the match against Arsenal, this happened due to the player's conflict with Enrique. I think it's bad when a coach allows himself such decisions in such an important match for educational purposes, Enrique said that this sometimes happens when a player does not fulfill his obligations, but now everything is fine, he says that he acted in the interests of the team. By the way, PSG's attack really missed Dembele, but perhaps he is right that discipline in the team is important.

You know when PSG had Messi, neymar, Mbappe these players were consider as the main strength of PSG,  they were the reason for winning of games and league title. PSG still have good players but these players be compare to the three players who are no more in the team. Messi,  neymar and Mbappe were tough force of the team in champions league.  Before the was considered to be one of the tough teams in champions. Winning the champions league have always been very difficult for PSG, making the team very tough with talented players should have been a target for them.

Well the hope they have is still 50:50 at the moment. We cannot be at all confident that this team will be able to easily qualify for the next stage. Different from when we talk about Real Madrid or Man City. then we will confidently say that they will definitely pass to the next stage. PSG, which has lost its spearhead, is becoming increasingly doubtful this season. And maybe PSG really should think about getting a new striker who can be a sharp spearhead on par with Mbappe. So that we no longer have doubts about this team. Against Bayern and Man city is a nightmare for all teams in the champions league. So for PSG this match will really be a difficult match. Unless PSG can win in other matches. So it looks like PSG's position will remain safe if they succeed in doing so.

I don't understand how you are so confident with the team that PSG currently have. Not only Mbappe, but several players left PSG after Luis Enrique took charge of PSG. But the biggest change was Mbappe's move to Real Madrid.  

After Mbappe moved to Real Madrid which player did PSG replace him or which player do they consider as a worthy replacement for Mbappe if you have a correct answer on this I hope you will share here. There is nothing to be so confident about this team. When PSG plays against the big teams in the Champions League, you will see how strong PSG is.

Take a look at the games still awaiting PSG after their Matchday 2 defeat to Arsenal.


Three of the six games will be tough for them, Atletico Madrid, Bayern Munich and Manchester City are tough opponents to beat. PSG chances of automatically qualifying for the next round are very small, the possibility of qualifying via the Play-Off route also depends on the points they are able to collect. They are still superior in Ligue 1, but when they are in the UCL, they will find it difficult to compete with other top teams.

I agree about their spot for the direct qualification because their performance is not good in Champions League which allow them to have spot into the 8 most chances we will have them into top 20 teams which is also decent because their current squad is not experienced, and they needed time for having good depth which will bring good results for them.

Their schedule in Champions League is also not easy because they are having few matches which are surely needed good effort with quality which is not available, but they can manage as they are having good coach which know how to bring good results in these situations.

Playing in Champions League and Domestic league is completely different things because we have too many challenging things in Champions League which make things not easy for few clubs RB Leipzig is also one of the clubs which always have problems in Champions League even their performance in Bundesliga is stable which allow them to have spot into top four which is good.

Now soccer is surely huge game even clubs need huge funds for having quality and skilled players which can give them better results, and we are having not all clubs on same level in finances, but things can take good changes as we are having good development in few clubs which are doing good work for their structure and having good quality in all competitions.

Odds can change before the match is rolled out, especially if both teams experience obstacles before the meeting of the two teams. but for now Barcelona is slightly more favored than Bayern Munich, especially playing at Camp Nou. Barcelona is now not under the care of Xavi Hernandez, who only relies on defense and counterattacks. Flick has a different style, offensive and gives high pressing to his opponent. interestingly, can Flick do it against Bayern Munich. well, it's worth waiting for this match. in the Munich camp, they have a good record from meetings with Barcelona. unfortunately, Kompany must work hard to maintain Munich's dominance so far. not an easy task, especially since Bayern slipped when playing against Aston Villa. although Barcelona's defensive pillar is injured, Flick has other options for that. so far they have played well, this match is a test for them, especially the young Barca players. Barca benefits because Bayern is not as fierce as before, Kane is not too aggressive this season by becoming a goal machine under Kompany. what is clear is that this match is highly anticipated, I can't wait for it.

The new league format of the champions league actually makes it compulsory that every one has gat to go through the group stage before been able to qualify for the next round of the champions league, i believe strongly PSG is making it through their group stage and you will wonder why, actually, if you look at their opponents so far and even after now, you will agree they have still got some chances of making it pass that stage as beyond that stage they may then have to face tougher teams which will be more challenging and may cost they their further stay in the champions league.

I don't also see much hope for PSG at the Champions league this season unless magic happens. If Arsenal can crash them 2-0 at Emirate Stadium, whereas PSG have been known to be strong both home and away, I don't expect much from them this season. The big teams namely Bayern Munic, Manchester City and Real Madrid will easily overpower them judging from the bad performance they showcased against Arsenal. Assuming they still have Angel Di Maria in the team, then we could have expected some magic.

having psg and real madrid in the same group is a truly strange thing, two potential champions league final teams in the same group, it's certainly not the fault of this new format but it could also happen with the old one, it's still absolutely strange that two teams like this strong are in the same group

I also feel that this time PSG will have quite a hard time getting straight through to the next stage. But that doesn't mean this team can't do it. It's just that they have to work harder to get it. And perhaps it is more likely that PSG will only qualify through the playoffs first. Let's see what matches PSG will face at this stage. The opponents they face will really make PSG lose points. For example, in the 4th match they will face Atletico Madrid, then in the 5th match they will face Bayern Munich and then in the 7th match they will have to face the most difficult opponent, namely Man City. So it will be quite difficult for PSG to get full points in these matches. But because this is the Champions League, it could turn out that our guess is wrong. And even PSG was able to qualify smoothly.

Correct, only Mbappe is the quality player PSG had.

Asensio and Hernandez aren't good anymore, because if they're perform really well, their ex teams will want to keep them. Real Madrid and Bayern Munich are top tier teams, they're not deserved to be compared with PSG.

Dembele isn't even the best player, but he's ego is like Mbappe. It's make sense for Mbappe become selfish person because he's the best player.

Yes you are right, it will be very difficult for Paris Saint Germain to qualify without going through the play off round, and even all teams will not be easy to qualify directly, because the competition is very tight with a league system like this. Goal productivity after completing all matches in the league round may also be a determinant for a team whether they will qualify automatically or have to play in the playoffs. Looking at the existing standings table, we can see that there are also many teams with the same points, only goals make their positions different. 7 teams have the same points of 6 points, 7 other teams also have the same points, namely 4 points. Even from the teams that have 4 points, many teams have the status of favorites. So this competition is indeed very tight.

On a brighter side I agree with him. PSG does not the right players to win the UCL league. Its not that they have a completely terrible players or bad performances. Their players are good enough to keep the team up and running but they need more better players to push the team forward. At least one or two players that can pressure and force the attack effectively.

Absolutely in their individual league they have been invincible, same with Monaco. If PSG cannot play better in the Champions League without Mbape being in the squad then i can barely say that they don't have any player that can be compared to Mbapae in terms of firing in the UCL.

Yes, they are good PSG players at the moment, maybe what he meant was the star players in it like Mbappe, Neymar or Messi while they are currently gone and the last one Mbappe left the team, he is the only star player who has a strong mentality among the others so that PSG's appearance in the UCL is not optimal, they are indeed not in doubt in the local league but in the UCL their chances are getting smaller than usual.

Brest just did what they should have done so far. They haven't failed in more winnable games. Even beating Salzburg in such way surprised me honestly. But still there are 6 games ahead and nearly all of them are tough ones.    It is really difficult to see Brest finishing in top 8 considering this fact. They need to play very extra you know.

I think they will collect 0 point against Leverkusen, Barcelona and Real Madrid. Maybe one point against the rest of the teams there. In that case I don't think 9 points would be enough for top 8 at all.

When a strong team plays against another strong team, the managers of the two teams will try to find out each other's weaknesses. Bayern Munich have some obvious weaknesses that are easy for any manager to plan around. If they can't fix these weaknesses before the Barcelona match, Barcelona will put a lot of pressure on them. 

Everyone is interested in the outcome of the match between Bayern Munich vs Barcelona, but Bayern Munich is not a weak team. In the list of the best teams in the Champions League, Bayern Munich will definitely take place, so if Barcelona wins the match against Bayern Munich, they will have to perform much better than Bayern Munich. But I will always bet on this match for Bayern Munich.

Previous match.

• Brest vs Sturm 2-1 (Sturm is a weak team, and Brest deserved that victory)
• Salzburg vs Brest 0-4 (And Salzburg is also the same as Sturm which has a bad performance)

Upcoming match.

• Brest vs Leverkusen (a difficult match for Brest)
• Sparta vs Brest (Brest still has a chance)
• Barcelona vs Brest (It won't be possible Brest to beat Barcelona)
• Brest vs PSV (Against PSV getting a draw has become the best result for Brest, but it's very difficult)
• Shakhtar vs Brest (a good opportunity for Brest to get additional points)
• Brest vs Madrid (Something that is impossible can hold a draw or defeat Madrid)

From this statement I strongly agree with @stompix because Brest is actually not a team that is equivalent to the elite team at UCL. While some of the teams that will be faced by Brest are big teams that have a lot of experience at UCL. Of the 4 matches mentioned @stompix, surely Brest will lose 12 points and this will be an opportunity for other elite teams to shift Brest's position in the standings.