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October 10, 2024, 10:54:57 AM
Only two matches have been played in the Champions League and the three teams Real Madrid, Manchester City and Bayern will definitely qualify to the round of 16 where only the strongest will survive to the next round. Real Madrid don't always take their group matches that serious but become more serious from the round of 16 on.
They are big clubs, have good tradition, and currently have good squads too, so logically they have good chance to move to a next phase of Champions League. But I never say they will definitely be qualified for a next phase, only based on their quality on the paper assessment. In sports, football in particular, performances on field in actual matches are more important than any paper assessment.

They did not have good starts in Champions League but many matches left in group phase, and they can use these matches to come back, and avoid nightmare of being disqualified too early, after the group phase. Nightmare like that, will cost them a lot in finance and their head coaches will very likely sacked.
Currently the journey to the round of 16 is still very far so anything can happen in their next 6 matches, so far Manchester City and Munich have only won one match and one draw, while the worse thing happened to Madrid with one win and also one defeat, but considering their ability, experience and mentality so far in the UCL, of course the three teams still have a great chance to qualify for the round of 16,  the semi-phase round of the UCL league this season gives us a lot of surprises where some big teams actually have to lose to small teams so indeed the new format of the Champions League gives a slightly different nuance, Team Teams such as Madrid, Manchester City and Munich have always had high targets and that clearly puts a burden on the coaches, especially with the change in the current UCL format actually having an impact on their player injuries because indeed they have a busy schedule their to face.
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October 10, 2024, 10:44:59 AM
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The defense condition of the Bayern Munich team is indeed not good because after I traced all the players who strengthened Bayern Munich this season, it turned out that there were seven players who were injured and five of them were in the center and right back positions. While the other two are in the wing and attacking midfielder positions so that this could certainly be very beneficial for Barcelona besides the match that will be played is also at Barcelona's home ground. However, Barcelona should not be happy about this because in the Champions League, even the slightest mistake can have fatal consequences for the team as a whole.
The situation that Bayern Munich is currently experiencing is certainly very beneficial for Barcelona, ​​especially since Hansi Flick can now play several key players who were previously in the treatment room. The sharpness of Barcelona's front line in breaking through the opponent's goal is also a big threat for Bayern Munich, Kompany must be able to anticipate surprises from Barcelona who are in their best form. The factor of playing at Camp Nou and Hansi Flick's career history as a former Bayern Munich coach makes them more favored in this match.
Such talks have been made before the start of the season, it would be foolish for PSG to regret their squad now. They have seen that earlier with good quality players they could not compete hard with other teams in the Champions League so this season without good quality players how can they compete against the big teams in a tournament like the Champions League. At the beginning of the season I discussed this team that PSG will not do very well in the Champions League tournament. With PSG's current performance, there are doubts about them winning the league title. But if PSG is satisfied with this performance, we have to accept it.
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October 10, 2024, 10:30:56 AM
I hope you can still remember in 2022/23 season, Inter made it to the final with Manchester City and if not for saving grace, City would have lost that match that day because they won the match with 1 goal to ni after huge pressure, it was that performance that made Manchester United to sign Andre Onana till date because of his performance in the Champions League. Sometimes, the things you don't see coming get at you in Champions League.
Even last season can be another testimony because Dortmond make it to the final but been defeated by Real Madrid.
The last two season you were talking about was a season to remember because Manchester City passed through a lot of tough matches before making it to the final, while Inter was lucky with most of the opponents they faced along the line, but it was a good final I must say because Manchester City were very lucky to have won due to high number of chances missed by Lukaku and Martinez of Inter Milan then.

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I believe there wouldn't be a sweet Champions League without Manchester City and Real Madrid but right now, Real Madrid are not even in good health and they can't perform to their optimum level but I can vouch for Manchester City and Barcelona are right now on hot journey to make some trophy. I don't know for Arsenal but I am neutral for them for now and Liverpool might do well in the long run.
The champions league can be competitive even without Manchester City because they don't have enough record in the champions league as Madrid, that is why the absence of Madrid in the competition might look strange, and I don't think it will happen because they do always made it to the champions league.

On the journey of wining the champions league this season, I am considering many teams because of the performances we have seen so far.
Bayern Munich, Liverpool, Manchester City, Barcelona, Arsenal, and Inter Milan. I didn't add Madrid because I know that they are already the favorites to win the competition, but their team's performance is not up to standard this season which I think they will not go far in the champions league this season.
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October 10, 2024, 10:24:50 AM
Only two matches have been played in the Champions League and the three teams Real Madrid, Manchester City and Bayern will definitely qualify to the round of 16 where only the strongest will survive to the next round. Real Madrid don't always take their group matches that serious but become more serious from the round of 16 on.
They are big clubs, have good tradition, and currently have good squads too, so logically they have good chance to move to a next phase of Champions League. But I never say they will definitely be qualified for a next phase, only based on their quality on the paper assessment. In sports, football in particular, performances on field in actual matches are more important than any paper assessment.

They did not have good starts in Champions League but many matches left in group phase, and they can use these matches to come back, and avoid nightmare of being disqualified too early, after the group phase. Nightmare like that, will cost them a lot in finance and their head coaches will very likely sacked.
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October 10, 2024, 10:13:01 AM
I saw the schedule of the 3rd match of the Champions League this season, from all the matches that exist, there are 2 matches that caught my attention and maybe this is the biggest match in the 3rd match, namely the match between Real Madrid vs Borussia Dortmund and the match between Barcelona vs Bayern Munich. Talking about the match between Real Madrid vs Borussia Dortmund, they are the clubs that competed in the final last season which ended with Real Madrid's victory with a score of 2-0 at that time and Real Madrid was able to secure the Champions League title. This match will be difficult, but for the favorite status, Real Madrid still holds it. While Borussia Dortmund will try hard to avenge their defeat last season.
Real Madrid have lost points in the previous match, so playing at home is a fixed price for Los Blancos, of course in the next match Madrid need points so as not to continue to lag behind.

While Dortmund are still in first place with the most goals scored... and we already know how the previous final match they have met maybe history will repeat itself where Real Madrid will win at home.
For the Barcelona vs Bayern Munich match... Haven't analyzed it yet... I'd like to see it after the international break... Why could one of them be injured that could affect the game.
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October 10, 2024, 09:22:14 AM
Guys, what do you think about this season? Do you think we will see an unusual club making it to the CL title? Or will it be one of the clubs among Real Madrid, Manchester City and Bayern MunichHuh

Yeah I'm considering all the remaining clubs as unusual or whatever you can call it. Because if you have noticed for quite many years, these clubs have been stepping forward. Especially the king of the competition Real Madrid.  Grin  This year, I see Arsenal being given more chance than Bayern Munich for the title for example. They would be pretty unusual considering they have 0 CL titles achieved.

However I feel like once again one of the 3 clubs I mentioned at the beginning will win it again.

If we refer to the current standings, maybe the champion this season is not from the three teams you mentioned. Because the top 7 teams that have collected perfect points so far are Borussia Dortmund, Brest, Benfica, Leverkusen, Liverpool, Aston Villa & Juventus. But we also need to remember that the 3 teams you mentioned are not ordinary teams, they can make a surprise at any time with the squad they have.
Only two matches have been played in the Champions League and the three teams Real Madrid, Manchester City and Bayern will definitely qualify to the round of 16 where only the strongest will survive to the next round. Real Madrid don't always take their group matches that serious but become more serious from the round of 16 on.

It is Bayern and Manchester City that I know do take all their matches very serious and i you are a weak team; they can humiliate you without mercy just like what Bayern did in their first match. I believe that these two clubs apart from Bayern will win their next match because Bayern is playing with a strong opponent Barcelona.
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October 10, 2024, 09:07:42 AM
If we refer to the current standings, maybe the champion this season is not from the three teams you mentioned. Because the top 7 teams that have collected perfect points so far are Borussia Dortmund, Brest, Benfica, Leverkusen, Liverpool, Aston Villa & Juventus. But we also need to remember that the 3 teams you mentioned are not ordinary teams, they can make a surprise at any time with the squad they have.

I hope you can still remember in 2022/23 season, Inter made it to the final with Manchester City and if not for saving grace, City would have lost that match that day because they won the match with 1 goal to ni after huge pressure, it was that performance that made Manchester United to sign Andre Onana till date because of his performance in the Champions League. Sometimes, the things you don't see coming get at you in Champions League.

I believe there wouldn't be a sweet Champions League without Manchester City and Real Madrid but right now, Real Madrid are not even in good health and they can't perform to their optimum level but I can vouch for Manchester City and Barcelona are right now on hot journey to make some trophy. I don't know for Arsenal but I am neutral for them for now and Liverpool might do well in the long run.
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October 10, 2024, 08:38:28 AM
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The H2H is clear, Bayern Munich get more victories than Barcelona. and even Barcelona always seems to have difficulty when facing Bayern Munich.

It's just that, look at the current conditions, Lewandowski as the top scorer in Bayern Munich at that time is now in Barcelona, ​​as well as Hansi Flcik, in Barcelona's position. While for now, Bayern Munich is still adapting to Kompany. So I think, this time, Barcelona might be leading.
For me H2H can indeed be a reference for us to predict the results of the match. But the problem is the two teams actually have the same advantages and disadvantages.
Bayern Munich has a weakness in the defense despite having a strong attacking player but it will not be equal to what is expected and can provide an opportunity for Barcelona to provide resistance.
While Barcelona does have Lewandowski but also has a little problem with the goalkeeper who is absent and can have a bad impact because of Ter Stegen one of the best goalkeepers today.

So that in the upcoming matches there will only be 2 possibilities between Munich winning or ending in a draw.
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October 10, 2024, 08:28:53 AM
I saw the schedule of the 3rd match of the Champions League this season, from all the matches that exist, there are 2 matches that caught my attention and maybe this is the biggest match in the 3rd match, namely the match between Real Madrid vs Borussia Dortmund and the match between Barcelona vs Bayern Munich. Talking about the match between Real Madrid vs Borussia Dortmund, they are the clubs that competed in the final last season which ended with Real Madrid's victory with a score of 2-0 at that time and Real Madrid was able to secure the Champions League title. This match will be difficult, but for the favorite status, Real Madrid still holds it. While Borussia Dortmund will try hard to avenge their defeat last season.
The match between Real and Borussia Dortmund intuitively brings us back to the Champions League final, Borussia will want to show that they are better than Real, and perhaps due to problems with the players in defense they will be able to play much better and score a few goals, especially since now Dortmund's attack scores a lot of goals. But the match between Barcelona and Bayern will be more attractive for me, I will watch this match and it seems to me that Flick is more experienced and therefore I expect that Barcelona can win.
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October 10, 2024, 08:19:31 AM
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The defense condition of the Bayern Munich team is indeed not good because after I traced all the players who strengthened Bayern Munich this season, it turned out that there were seven players who were injured and five of them were in the center and right back positions. While the other two are in the wing and attacking midfielder positions so that this could certainly be very beneficial for Barcelona besides the match that will be played is also at Barcelona's home ground. However, Barcelona should not be happy about this because in the Champions League, even the slightest mistake can have fatal consequences for the team as a whole.
The situation that Bayern Munich is currently experiencing is certainly very beneficial for Barcelona, ​​especially since Hansi Flick can now play several key players who were previously in the treatment room. The sharpness of Barcelona's front line in breaking through the opponent's goal is also a big threat for Bayern Munich, Kompany must be able to anticipate surprises from Barcelona who are in their best form. The factor of playing at Camp Nou and Hansi Flick's career history as a former Bayern Munich coach makes them more favored in this match.
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October 10, 2024, 08:02:18 AM
I guess this could be the first interesting season after the championship achieved by Chelsea in the 2020/2021 season.  Smiley  Because the top title contenders haven't made the best start at all.

It is really difficult to repeat what Chelsea did of course. In their way I mean. Because they were defending their opponents like hell with Tuchel.  Grin  Nobody saw the title coming for them at first.

I'm looking at the teams which might have a chance for writing this scenario in a different way. Maybe Arsenal? Or Liverpool? I guess Arsenal would be much more unexpected.

instead, analyzing the results of these last matches I would say that the level of play seems the same to me, that is, the teams that are weak always risk succumbing, while the strong ones are strong and that's it, so in terms of entertainment nothing has changed, they do just to increase the number of games to play!
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October 10, 2024, 07:56:56 AM
I guess this could be the first interesting season after the championship achieved by Chelsea in the 2020/2021 season.  Smiley  Because the top title contenders haven't made the best start at all.

It is really difficult to repeat what Chelsea did of course. In their way I mean. Because they were defending their opponents like hell with Tuchel.  Grin  Nobody saw the title coming for them at first.

I'm looking at the teams which might have a chance for writing this scenario in a different way. Maybe Arsenal? Or Liverpool? I guess Arsenal would be much more unexpected.
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October 10, 2024, 07:49:54 AM
Predicting the draw may not be a good option because this two clubs has always not been on favour of draw matches and is been a while I saw them play draw, so is mostly very rare cases to see Bayern Munich and Barcelona play a draw match because it always end against against one side, so actually I'm only saying this based on how it has always been for them but since there has been a lot of new development on this season from the both sides your prediction could also be true because Bayern Munich will be doing a lot of management on there defense that day because they still have an unresolved issue.
There is nothing wrong with saying that there will be a draw at the end of the match even though I agree that the past meetings between these two teams have always ended in one side, referring to H2H Bayern Munich has the advantage but currently the conditions are different Barcelona in the hands of Hansi Flick knows a little more about Bayern Munich's weaknesses,

Yeah it was based on the fact i stated earlier that makes me feel that predicting draw may not work out, I actually understand the reasons why you believe that things may likely work out differently this time but sometimes even if there are some fact that shows equality between two teams but whenever it involves a very high and prestigious clubs like Bayern Munich and Barcelona playing draw will be difficult, however I agree with you that Barcelona knows there weakest strategy because of Hansi Flick who was ones a Bayern Munich favourite coach for sometime, so he is likely to no the ways and the areas to pin down Bayern Munich because a coach who has been into a club for a long time should be able to no how things work and also how to decode there pattern.
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October 10, 2024, 07:00:49 AM
I saw the schedule of the 3rd match of the Champions League this season, from all the matches that exist, there are 2 matches that caught my attention and maybe this is the biggest match in the 3rd match, namely the match between Real Madrid vs Borussia Dortmund and the match between Barcelona vs Bayern Munich. Talking about the match between Real Madrid vs Borussia Dortmund, they are the clubs that competed in the final last season which ended with Real Madrid's victory with a score of 2-0 at that time and Real Madrid was able to secure the Champions League title. This match will be difficult, but for the favorite status, Real Madrid still holds it. While Borussia Dortmund will try hard to avenge their defeat last season.

Indeed, in the 3rd match of the Champions League, of course many people will be focused on Barcelona's match against Bayern and Real Madrid's match against Dortmund because in my opinion those matches are also matches that really need to be watched. because of course in that match we will see a strong team fighting a strong team and of course in that match there will be tight competition. Of course, in the 3rd match of the Champions League, we will definitely see other strong clubs such as Manchester City and Arsenal, but of course the opponents that Manchester City will face will certainly not be comparable to Manchester City's performance as well as Arsenal, whose opponents are certainly not comparable to Arsenal. So yes of course it's absolutely true. So Dortmund's matches against Real Madrid and Barcelona's matches against Bayern are certainly worthy the favorite matches.

The upcoming match between Real Madrid and Dortmund will certainly be exciting, fierce and tight and of course it will definitely be a little confusing regarding the result of that match, but what you say is true because it looks like Real Madrid is still the favorite to win that match and I personally also predict that that match Real Madrid will succeed in beating Dortmund. Yes, of course Dortmund definitely doesn't want to repeat another defeat like in last season's UCL Final and what is certain is that I can't wait for that match because of course in that match we will see how Nuri Sahin's troops struggle to avenge their defeat last season.
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October 10, 2024, 04:28:39 AM
I believe, Barcelona does not always lose when facing Bayern Munich, and vice versa. Barcelona current form is in a unique situation, Hansi Flick continues to try to give opportunities to young players in every game, but they have not made any mistakes like when they beat Alaves. The key to Barcelona success this season is being in the right hands, the team's improving condition is the capital for them to end the series of bad results when facing Bayern Munich. On the other hand, Bayern Munich's condition is very unstable, they are without a win in their last three matches, losing to Aston Villa and conceding three goals at Frankfurt headquarters indicates that Munich defense is not in good shape.
The defense condition of the Bayern Munich team is indeed not good because after I traced all the players who strengthened Bayern Munich this season, it turned out that there were seven players who were injured and five of them were in the center and right back positions. While the other two are in the wing and attacking midfielder positions so that this could certainly be very beneficial for Barcelona besides the match that will be played is also at Barcelona's home ground. However, Barcelona should not be happy about this because in the Champions League, even the slightest mistake can have fatal consequences for the team as a whole.
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October 10, 2024, 03:57:20 AM
I saw the schedule of the 3rd match of the Champions League this season, from all the matches that exist, there are 2 matches that caught my attention and maybe this is the biggest match in the 3rd match, namely the match between Real Madrid vs Borussia Dortmund and the match between Barcelona vs Bayern Munich. Talking about the match between Real Madrid vs Borussia Dortmund, they are the clubs that competed in the final last season which ended with Real Madrid's victory with a score of 2-0 at that time and Real Madrid was able to secure the Champions League title. This match will be difficult, but for the favorite status, Real Madrid still holds it. While Borussia Dortmund will try hard to avenge their defeat last season.
My prediction is Real Madrid vs Dortmund will end in draw, while Barcelona vs Bayern Munich, Barcelona will win.

Dortmund is currently on shape and Real Madrid lost Carvajal, Militao and Vinicius, so I think both are equal.

Bayern Munich currently lost two important players which are Kane and Musiala, although Barcelona also lost many players, but as we can see in the last few match, Barcelona still able to win. Which mean the substitute players can play as good as the players that currently injured.
Real Madrid have lost some of their core players so it does raise a lot of doubts if they can overcome Dortmund's resistance later, but even so of course Ancelotti may have prepared a special strategy in covering up their weaknesses after losing some key players such as Carvajal, Militao, Vinicius and also anticipate Dortmund game  in the match, so far Madrid has lost many of its star players while Dortmund I thinks there are still weaknesses that Madrid can take advantage of later because of their inconsistent performance so far, I think both teams will play with the same ambition to win the match so that a draw is the most realistic thing to happen in end match.
The Barcelona vs Munich match is one of the matches that I am most waiting for, although so far Munich has a good record when meeting Barcelona, however, the condition of the two teams, which I think is quite balanced and also consistent at the moment, allows us maybe to see an exciting and tight match later.
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October 10, 2024, 03:23:30 AM
Have you seen the last five games between these sides? Bayern Munich had won all the last five fixtures they've played against Barcelona, maybe you didn't get a proper look at it? It'll be interesting truthfully. Flick will have a hard time against Vincent Kompany? That is laughable. Same Bayern Munich and Vincent Kompany that had a hard time beating Aston Villa? They might be young and lacking experience but games like this are what leads to players growing confidence. I don not see Bayern Munich winning this game, what I see is Barcelona getting a win or sharing the spoils from this game. They just have to score,take the chances they have and defend together.
If we look at the meeting record, it is true that Barcelona has always lost when facing Bayern Munich in their last 5 meetings, but this happened in the past and there is no guarantee that it will happen again. However, it is true that Bayern Munich has a good meeting record capital which will be something that will improve their morale. But on the other hand, Barcelona will also be motivated to break the negative results that they always get when facing Bayern Munich. Hansi Flick will also definitely have a target where he must break Barcelona's bad record. On the other hand, Vincent Kompany also definitely wants to continue Bayern Munich's good record when facing this La Liga team.
I believe, Barcelona does not always lose when facing Bayern Munich, and vice versa. Barcelona current form is in a unique situation, Hansi Flick continues to try to give opportunities to young players in every game, but they have not made any mistakes like when they beat Alaves. The key to Barcelona success this season is being in the right hands, the team's improving condition is the capital for them to end the series of bad results when facing Bayern Munich. On the other hand, Bayern Munich's condition is very unstable, they are without a win in their last three matches, losing to Aston Villa and conceding three goals at Frankfurt headquarters indicates that Munich defense is not in good shape.

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October 10, 2024, 03:05:37 AM
I saw the schedule of the 3rd match of the Champions League this season, from all the matches that exist, there are 2 matches that caught my attention and maybe this is the biggest match in the 3rd match, namely the match between Real Madrid vs Borussia Dortmund and the match between Barcelona vs Bayern Munich. Talking about the match between Real Madrid vs Borussia Dortmund, they are the clubs that competed in the final last season which ended with Real Madrid's victory with a score of 2-0 at that time and Real Madrid was able to secure the Champions League title. This match will be difficult, but for the favorite status, Real Madrid still holds it. While Borussia Dortmund will try hard to avenge their defeat last season.
My prediction is Real Madrid vs Dortmund will end in draw, while Barcelona vs Bayern Munich, Barcelona will win.

Dortmund is currently on shape and Real Madrid lost Carvajal, Militao and Vinicius, so I think both are equal.

Bayern Munich currently lost two important players which are Kane and Musiala, although Barcelona also lost many players, but as we can see in the last few match, Barcelona still able to win. Which mean the substitute players can play as good as the players that currently injured.
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October 10, 2024, 02:40:38 AM
I saw the schedule of the 3rd match of the Champions League this season, from all the matches that exist, there are 2 matches that caught my attention and maybe this is the biggest match in the 3rd match, namely the match between Real Madrid vs Borussia Dortmund and the match between Barcelona vs Bayern Munich. Talking about the match between Real Madrid vs Borussia Dortmund, they are the clubs that competed in the final last season which ended with Real Madrid's victory with a score of 2-0 at that time and Real Madrid was able to secure the Champions League title. This match will be difficult, but for the favorite status, Real Madrid still holds it. While Borussia Dortmund will try hard to avenge their defeat last season.
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October 10, 2024, 02:08:18 AM
If we look at the meeting record, it is true that Barcelona has always lost when facing Bayern Munich in their last 5 meetings, but this happened in the past and there is no guarantee that it will happen again. However, it is true that Bayern Munich has a good meeting record capital which will be something that will improve their morale. But on the other hand, Barcelona will also be motivated to break the negative results that they always get when facing Bayern Munich. Hansi Flick will also definitely have a target where he must break Barcelona's bad record. On the other hand, Vincent Kompany also definitely wants to continue Bayern Munich's good record when facing this La Liga team.
With a good meeting record, Bayern Munich has much more confidence to face Barcelona and I think what happened in the past will have quite an influence on the meeting of these two teams this season, apart from Barcelona who has developed a lot this season compared to previous seasons but Bayern Munich also experienced the same thing so of course I think Bayern Munich has a very big chance to be able to win the match against Barcelona again this season.
But with the development of Barcelona's performance this season, it is likely that they will not lose with an embarrassing score again. lol
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