A draw would not be surprising, but it would not be good for Madrid. I think Liverpool will still be safe even with a draw. but a different situation will happen to Madrid who will try hard to get a win. Madrid did not get good enough results in the Champions League, they will definitely try to get the best results in the remaining matches even though they have to fight very hard. it is clear that it will not be easy to win at Liverpool's home with Liverpool's current performance. a big challenge for Ancelotti and proves how Madrid's strength is not yet exhausted.
If Liverpool draws with Real Madrid, then Ancelotti must prepare additional energy to advance to the last 16 through the play-offs. If Real Madrid loses, then Liverpool should be considered as the favorite candidate to win the title this season. We realize that there is a lot at stake for Los Blancos in the match, and the course of the match is certain to be troublesome for both teams. With the new match taking place after the international break, it is still very difficult to predict the readiness of both teams. What is clear for now, Ancelotti and Arne Slot hope that their players who defend the country can return in good condition. 
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Liverpool vs Madrid (draw)
It cannot be said that Real Madrid is performing very well at the moment, so Liverpool can win the Champions League match against Real Madrid as Liverpool are currently in the best form. The result of the match will either go in favor of Real Madrid or it will go in favor of Liverpool but I don't think the result of this match will be a draw. When a strong team performs poorly on a regular basis and their position drops to the bottom of the points table due to poor performance, they can do anything to get back into the good position. Looking forward to a great comeback from Real Madrid. Of course, we will expect Real Madrid to make a strong return to the Champions League with the match against Liverpool and we are looking forward to that.Both teams have so far had inversely proportional performances but still they will try their best to win the match later, especially Madrid, Ancelotti should soon be able to find the right formula to overcome the incohesion of their current front line and also the weak defense.
I think this match might benefit Real Madrid if they are able to beat Liverpool because Real Madrid currently really needs points in every match to continue to climb to the top rankings, on the other hand if Liverpool experiences their first defeat in this match it will not affect them because Liverpool is still in the top 8 so even though Liverpool has the advantage of playing at home maybe Liverpool will not try to put too much pressure on Real Madrid they can save their energy because the journey in the UCL is still very long.
All I see happening in this game is a fierce attempt by both teams to get a goal or probably win each other in this game, because literally one team is in form more than the other but Madrid is very experienced and thst is an advantage on its own they could leverage on so it's going to be a tough game and whosoever wins was just the lucky one for that day and not because they are better than the other, Liverpool's home advantage is another thing Madrid will actually struggle to deal with because Liverpool wouldn't want to suffer a loss at home and slot has been very precised about his champions League tactics to get the best off every game so a draw wouldn't come as a surprise.A draw would not be surprising, but it would not be good for Madrid. I think Liverpool will still be safe even with a draw. but a different situation will happen to Madrid who will try hard to get a win. Madrid did not get good enough results in the Champions League, they will definitely try to get the best results in the remaining matches even though they have to fight very hard. it is clear that it will not be easy to win at Liverpool's home with Liverpool's current performance. a big challenge for Ancelotti and proves how Madrid's strength is not yet exhausted.
The matches against Liverpool and Atalanta will certainly be difficult for Real Madrid, but Real Madrid has a good squad to hope to win the match. Real Madrid is currently missing several players due to injury, but considering that the match schedule is still very long, there is time for these players to recover.
Maybe there needs to be some refreshing in the Real Madrid squad, such as maximizing some young players, but I don't see Ancelotti having the inclination to do that. Many of Real Madrid's young players are on the bench, even though they also have good quality. Ancelotti must be able to give them time to play, this will make them better.
That's right, it won't be easy especially now that Madrid are still faced with the loss of players due to injuries which makes the situation even worse for now.Maybe there needs to be some refreshing in the Real Madrid squad, such as maximizing some young players, but I don't see Ancelotti having the inclination to do that. Many of Real Madrid's young players are on the bench, even though they also have good quality. Ancelotti must be able to give them time to play, this will make them better.
When they need full points to make their position no worse than now they are faced with several internal problems that make Madrid seem like they are having trouble breathing for now because looking at the current situation, their 3 core players in defense are all injured where Alaba is still not recovered, Carvajal is injured until the end of the season and Militao is affected by ACL which will definitely miss another match at Madrid for a long time.
Atalanta is not a big club but their goal productivity is very good because they can always score goals thanks to the neat cooperation that is always shown, Liverpool is also currently in very good condition even though Liverpool has a bad h2h record against Madrid but still they are not an easy opponent. Madrid must fight extra in their unstable condition but are demanded for full points, of course this will make the pressure for Madrid increase slightly but they must pass in order to still be considered a big club in the Champions League.
I checked the odds for the match between Liverpool v Real Madrid and as it turns out, Liverpool is the overwhelming favorite. But even so, I personally do not consider about Liverpool who will play at home because obviously, at this moment Liverpool is still in a very good trend compared to Real Madrid. But at least, we also cannot at all underestimate Real Madrid, because we also realize that Real Madrid is a team that has a good winning mentality. Although in the previous match Real Madrid lost 1-3 against Milan, but I believe the performance and results that will occur in the match against Liverpool later will be very likely to have very different results. But even so, the results on paper may also still be possible to happen about Liverpool who may then manage to continue their positive trend.
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1.97 - 3.80 - 3.55
I don't see any particularly "overwhelming" imbalance in the odds. Liverpool are in great shape and playing at home, while Real Madrid have literally no defense (everyone is injured). And even in these circumstances, Liverpool's chances of winning are almost 50%. For me the game looks random (because Real doesn't have much motivation) but Real can win even in such conditions.
I think this match might benefit Real Madrid if they are able to beat Liverpool because Real Madrid currently really needs points in every match to continue to climb to the top rankings, on the other hand if Liverpool experiences their first defeat in this match it will not affect them because Liverpool is still in the top 8 so even though Liverpool has the advantage of playing at home maybe Liverpool will not try to put too much pressure on Real Madrid they can save their energy because the journey in the UCL is still very long.
All I see happening in this game is a fierce attempt by both teams to get a goal or probably win each other in this game, because literally one team is in form more than the other but Madrid is very experienced and thst is an advantage on its own they could leverage on so it's going to be a tough game and whosoever wins was just the lucky one for that day and not because they are better than the other, Liverpool's home advantage is another thing Madrid will actually struggle to deal with because Liverpool wouldn't want to suffer a loss at home and slot has been very precised about his champions League tactics to get the best off every game so a draw wouldn't come as a surprise. 
Liverpool vs Madrid (draw)
It cannot be said that Real Madrid is performing very well at the moment, so Liverpool can win the Champions League match against Real Madrid as Liverpool are currently in the best form. The result of the match will either go in favor of Real Madrid or it will go in favor of Liverpool but I don't think the result of this match will be a draw. When a strong team performs poorly on a regular basis and their position drops to the bottom of the points table due to poor performance, they can do anything to get back into the good position. Looking forward to a great comeback from Real Madrid. Of course, we will expect Real Madrid to make a strong return to the Champions League with the match against Liverpool and we are looking forward to that.Recently i have checked the odds for this match and Liverpool is the favourite but i still considers this is hard match for Liverpool but all of the players will playing with their national team in International break and if there is no injured players probably Liverpool can beat Real Madrid
Liverpool vs Madrid (draw)
It cannot be said that Real Madrid is performing very well at the moment, so Liverpool can win the Champions League match against Real Madrid as Liverpool are currently in the best form. The result of the match will either go in favor of Real Madrid or it will go in favor of Liverpool but I don't think the result of this match will be a draw. When a strong team performs poorly on a regular basis and their position drops to the bottom of the points table due to poor performance, they can do anything to get back into the good position. Looking forward to a great comeback from Real Madrid. Of course, we will expect Real Madrid to make a strong return to the Champions League with the match against Liverpool and we are looking forward to that.Currently now, I don't really think Real Madrid can win Liverpool because of their current performance though is not like they have a poor performance but rather it's not good enough to win Liverpool because Liverpool has won 4-5 of their last matches which means they are inform. But judging with their last five matches, I think Real Madrid has win them 4 times and a draw so to me I don't think Real Madrid will or can still bit them I mean it's just like beating someone in a fight for 4 times and thinking you will still beat the person next time forgetting the person is growing, re-strategizing and preparing for the next fight. Is actually going to be a tough match though but Real Madrid Champions league experience is something I can't really explain.
Liverpool vs Madrid (draw)
It cannot be said that Real Madrid is performing very well at the moment, so Liverpool can win the Champions League match against Real Madrid as Liverpool are currently in the best form. The result of the match will either go in favor of Real Madrid or it will go in favor of Liverpool but I don't think the result of this match will be a draw. When a strong team performs poorly on a regular basis and their position drops to the bottom of the points table due to poor performance, they can do anything to get back into the good position. Looking forward to a great comeback from Real Madrid. Of course, we will expect Real Madrid to make a strong return to the Champions League with the match against Liverpool and we are looking forward to that.If Liverpool will be the one to kick Real Madrid ass out of UCL this season, if they win them during their clash, Liverpool would be happy and willing to do that to get rid of them, and create a better opportunity for themselves in the long run. However, Real Madrid will not joke with this match, because it might be the match to determine their fate in the league. It will be a disgrace that Madrid didn't qualify from the group stage and there will be no hope for them seeing themselves as champions this season.
Liverpool vs Madrid (draw)
It cannot be said that Real Madrid is performing very well at the moment, so Liverpool can win the Champions League match against Real Madrid as Liverpool are currently in the best form. The result of the match will either go in favor of Real Madrid or it will go in favor of Liverpool but I don't think the result of this match will be a draw. When a strong team performs poorly on a regular basis and their position drops to the bottom of the points table due to poor performance, they can do anything to get back into the good position. Looking forward to a great comeback from Real Madrid. Of course, we will expect Real Madrid to make a strong return to the Champions League with the match against Liverpool and we are looking forward to that.
~Snip
Now Madrid only have to focus on the remaining matches because looking at the current schedule 2 of the 4 matches that will be carried out in weeks 5 and 6 will clearly be troublesome for them considering the opponents they have to face are Liverpool and Atalanta so even though Play off is an option for now but still they have to get points especially after 2 defeats which are quite painful making them currently in a less favorable position in the standings.Madrid still have a lot to make some schemes and of course the momentum must be built from scratch after several painful defeats at the Bernabeu.
Do not let the minus results always get them because after all even though the play offs now they can still get but of course they also still need points to tell that they are also still one of the clubs that are indeed favorites in the championship.
Maybe there needs to be some refreshing in the Real Madrid squad, such as maximizing some young players, but I don't see Ancelotti having the inclination to do that. Many of Real Madrid's young players are on the bench, even though they also have good quality. Ancelotti must be able to give them time to play, this will make them better.
And for the young players you mentioned, actually last season Ancelotti used a strategy where young players would appear more in the domestic league and the main players would rest completely to focus on the UCL. But this season is very different because Ancelotti has a different strategy unlike last season and he is aware that using young players in the UCL is not a good choice because his emotions are not yet stable.
The matches against Liverpool and Atalanta will certainly be difficult for Real Madrid, but Real Madrid has a good squad to hope to win the match. Real Madrid is currently missing several players due to injury, but considering that the match schedule is still very long, there is time for these players to recover.
There is no denying that Real Madrid still have a good squad, but the problem lies in the squad depth due to several key players being injured. Real Madrid will have a hard time bringing home a win at Anfield as Liverpool are still in top form in two different competitions, they are also the only team to have managed to get full points in the UCL. Atalanta can also make things difficult for Real Madrid, especially since they have never lost in their last 6 matches when playing at their home base. Real also lost three players during their win over Osasuna, making it even more difficult for Ancelotti to formulate a strategy.
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Now Madrid only have to focus on the remaining matches because looking at the current schedule 2 of the 4 matches that will be carried out in weeks 5 and 6 will clearly be troublesome for them considering the opponents they have to face are Liverpool and Atalanta so even though Play off is an option for now but still they have to get points especially after 2 defeats which are quite painful making them currently in a less favorable position in the standings.Madrid still have a lot to make some schemes and of course the momentum must be built from scratch after several painful defeats at the Bernabeu.
Do not let the minus results always get them because after all even though the play offs now they can still get but of course they also still need points to tell that they are also still one of the clubs that are indeed favorites in the championship.
It is true that now there is no other way for Real Madrid other than they have to focus on the match they are going to play and of course Real Madrid as last season's champions of course must show their prowess if they are a team that will be ready to compete again with other strong teams in the UCL and Indeed, it would be better if Real Madrid won all the matches which would ultimately make Real Madrid's name even better.
Real Madrid's next opponent will certainly not be easy to beat because of course Liverpool is currently performing very well and of course Real Madrid needs strength and good strategy to be able to fight Liverpool, but of course if you look at Real Madrid's last match in Laliga against Osasuna. I see that Real Madrid's performance is getting better so I'm sure it will be an exciting match. and against Atalanta I am also sure that Real Madrid will be able to overcome it.
Yes, with the defeat experienced by Real Madrid, of course this is very painful, but I hope Ancelotti can make Real Madrid better so that it can heal the feelings of Real Madrid fans who are sad because in the UCL this season Real Madrid's performance did not match Real Madrid fans' expectations.
PSG and Bayern Munich are both leading their domestic leagues. PSG is at the top of Ligue 1, where they are yet to be beaten, and Bayern Munich is leading in Bundesliga. But what is noticeable is that none of them has used their domestic success in demonstrating dominance in Champions League in this season. But then, it is considered to be a tougher competition. Because the level of pressure and the quality of opponents is higher. Therefore, superior performance in the domestic league does not always guarantee success in European competition.
Neither of both teams have been able to demonstrate their domestic dominance in the champions League because practically they are tow different leagues with varrying form of competitiveness at this point, if I am to even examine them and their strength I wouldn't be making much reference to their domestic performance knowing how well that is very different from the champion's league and even within them the level of prioritization they attach to each of these leagues at the levels they are at. So you are very correct to say that superiority in the domestic league doesn't equate same performance in the champions League.It is clear that both teams failed to implement strategies and adapt when facing the Champions League. The pressure given in the Champions League is very different from the domestic league, so the results obtained by both teams in the domestic league are not directly proportional when playing in the Champions League.
PSG and Bayern Munich are both leading their domestic leagues. Simply because in terms of talent and player resources, they are always far superior to the domestic league teams.
As for the Champions League, the quality of the teams here is even much higher than theirs. I'm not just talking about the financial aspect but also the smart management of the team's leadership. For example, PSG has the finances but they cannot recruit a truly qualified coach. If compared to Real Madrid, the team always has a talented coach. If PSG had recruited coach Zidane, the story in the Champions League would have been different.
In short, PSG and Bayern Munich still lack the necessary elements to become stronger in this arena.
As for the Champions League, the quality of the teams here is even much higher than theirs. I'm not just talking about the financial aspect but also the smart management of the team's leadership. For example, PSG has the finances but they cannot recruit a truly qualified coach. If compared to Real Madrid, the team always has a talented coach. If PSG had recruited coach Zidane, the story in the Champions League would have been different.
In short, PSG and Bayern Munich still lack the necessary elements to become stronger in this arena.
You are right, the strategy owned by the coach may be the main cause so that both teams, PSG and Bayern Munich, were unable to perform well in the Champions League. But if you take Real Madrid as an example, because this season it seems that Real Madrid is quite struggling in the Champions League, even though Madrid has an experienced coach, namely Ancelloti, but this season Real Madrid has performed less than satisfactory, in the domestic league even though it is in second place in the standings, but Real Madrid's points obtained are far behind Barcelona, as well as the position in the UCL which is not far from Bayern Munich. FC Barcelona is the best example that we can see this season, because besides their success in the domestic league, Barcelona also performed quite well in the UCL, under the guidance of Hansi Flick, Barcelona was able to adapt and perform well in the domestic league and the Champions League.
PSG and Bayern Munich are both leading their domestic leagues. PSG is at the top of Ligue 1, where they are yet to be beaten, and Bayern Munich is leading in Bundesliga. But what is noticeable is that none of them has used their domestic success in demonstrating dominance in Champions League in this season. But then, it is considered to be a tougher competition. Because the level of pressure and the quality of opponents is higher. Therefore, superior performance in the domestic league does not always guarantee success in European competition.
Neither of both teams have been able to demonstrate their domestic dominance in the champions League because practically they are tow different leagues with varrying form of competitiveness at this point, if I am to even examine them and their strength I wouldn't be making much reference to their domestic performance knowing how well that is very different from the champion's league and even within them the level of prioritization they attach to each of these leagues at the levels they are at. So you are very correct to say that superiority in the domestic league doesn't equate same performance in the champions League.PSG and Bayern Munich are both leading their domestic leagues. Simply because in terms of talent and player resources, they are always far superior to the domestic league teams.
As for the Champions League, the quality of the teams here is even much higher than theirs. I'm not just talking about the financial aspect but also the smart management of the team's leadership. For example, PSG has the finances but they cannot recruit a truly qualified coach. If compared to Real Madrid, the team always has a talented coach. If PSG had recruited coach Zidane, the story in the Champions League would have been different.
In short, PSG and Bayern Munich still lack the necessary elements to become stronger in this arena.
PSG and Bayern Munich are both leading their domestic leagues. PSG is at the top of Ligue 1, where they are yet to be beaten, and Bayern Munich is leading in Bundesliga. But what is noticeable is that none of them has used their domestic success in demonstrating dominance in Champions League in this season. But then, it is considered to be a tougher competition. Because the level of pressure and the quality of opponents is higher. Therefore, superior performance in the domestic league does not always guarantee success in European competition.
Neither of both teams have been able to demonstrate their domestic dominance in the champions League because practically they are tow different leagues with varrying form of competitiveness at this point, if I am to even examine them and their strength I wouldn't be making much reference to their domestic performance knowing how well that is very different from the champion's league and even within them the level of prioritization they attach to each of these leagues at the levels they are at. So you are very correct to say that superiority in the domestic league doesn't equate same performance in the champions League. 
It would be very surprising that Real Madrid doesn't qualify to the next stage of the competition therefore I can't write them off that they're not going to qualify. Liverpool has been impressive this season both in the premier and champions league. They're looking as a team that has the potential to win one of the league or they can win both too as they haven't shown any weakness and are just winning in the simplest way possible. They're not scoring too much but making sure they get the job down to get all three points. Liverpool next game is going to be against Real Madrid and both teams are tough teams in the champions league, if Liverpool doesn't win, they draw.
If they don't qualify then it's actually a good one because throughout out this season they have been very unfortunate in their performance, in every league everyone will get what they deserve and if Madrid did not do the needful then their is no way that they will qualify, Liverpool have been doing a very good job in the premier league and champions league to so the season moght be theirs because arsenal is looking more unstable this season compare to other season and this is not only arsenal and even Madrid a lot of clubs are very unstable this season a lot is happening but a winner must emerge.
This would have been Arsenal this season but they are busy still looking for ways to solve their own problems and when Arsenal is suppose to shine and showcase their success that is when they are now having serious game challenges and that is one annoying thing about arsenal this season their performance is seriously dropping and arteta is beginning to annoy me he needs to reconsider a lot of things you can not always be the best, every needs to learn from others.
Now Madrid only have to focus on the remaining matches because looking at the current schedule 2 of the 4 matches that will be carried out in weeks 5 and 6 will clearly be troublesome for them considering the opponents they have to face are Liverpool and Atalanta so even though Play off is an option for now but still they have to get points especially after 2 defeats which are quite painful making them currently in a less favorable position in the standings.
Madrid still have a lot to make some schemes and of course the momentum must be built from scratch after several painful defeats at the Bernabeu.
Do not let the minus results always get them because after all even though the play offs now they can still get but of course they also still need points to tell that they are also still one of the clubs that are indeed favorites in the championship.
Real Madrid's struggle this season is more difficult than before and this is of course because of the increasing number of injured players. In the last match, at least 3 players were reported to have suffered injuries including Rodrygo, Vasquez and Militao. This is clearly very troublesome for Ancelotti, it is even reported that Militao will miss this season due to his serious injury status.Madrid still have a lot to make some schemes and of course the momentum must be built from scratch after several painful defeats at the Bernabeu.
Do not let the minus results always get them because after all even though the play offs now they can still get but of course they also still need points to tell that they are also still one of the clubs that are indeed favorites in the championship.
Real Madrid may need to get some additional players in January considering they still have to fight hard in La Liga and the Champions League. Losing 2 times in 4 matches is certainly very unexpected, but that is part of the risk of the match for all teams. Ancelotti needs to develop the best plan for each match following the many injuries that have hit Real Madrid.
There are a few youngsters that Madrid have brought in now from Castila and that's all they can do as it's unlikely they'll be able to bring back any players for at least the next few months before the transfer window opens.
But to wait until January is clearly a risky choice so for now Madrid just have to maximize the strength available for them to survive this unfavorable condition especially for the Champions League because there are still 2 tough matches that they still have to face.
It is undeniable that Bayern's statistics are still quite superior and it can be seen from their current position even though Bayern are still quite bad but we can see that PSG is still scattered in the lower standings at this time. But on the other hand for now in terms of strength, these two clubs are actually quite comparable and this can be used by PSG to reduce the probability because it is clear they lose in terms of favorites for now.
Bayern are still constrained by performance as well as PSG even though these two clubs can both dominate in domestic competitions but still for competitions in the Champions League are different things so they have to try more if they really want something good.
Talking about the mentality of these two clubs is actually also balanced because in the last few seasons at least they can always qualify for the last 16 phase even though they are always hampered in the quarter-finals so for now it is just a matter of seeing the quality of the players and the attack scheme carried out whether it will be an advantage for Bayern or PSG because their target is definitely 3 points.
Bayern are still constrained by performance as well as PSG even though these two clubs can both dominate in domestic competitions but still for competitions in the Champions League are different things so they have to try more if they really want something good.
Talking about the mentality of these two clubs is actually also balanced because in the last few seasons at least they can always qualify for the last 16 phase even though they are always hampered in the quarter-finals so for now it is just a matter of seeing the quality of the players and the attack scheme carried out whether it will be an advantage for Bayern or PSG because their target is definitely 3 points.
PSG and Bayern Munich are both leading their domestic leagues. PSG is at the top of Ligue 1, where they are yet to be beaten, and Bayern Munich is leading in Bundesliga. But what is noticeable is that none of them has used their domestic success in demonstrating dominance in Champions League in this season. But then, it is considered to be a tougher competition. Because the level of pressure and the quality of opponents is higher. Therefore, superior performance in the domestic league does not always guarantee success in European competition.
And unfortunately they have to meet early. Since Bayern is at 17 in the Champions League standings and PSG sits at 25, for the winner to be, it's even very likely that loser will now be in a tougher spot, even possibly coming last. Both have some very talented players, but both need to start being more consistent in implementing their strategies to be able to compete more seriously in this tournament.
This season is full of surprises, because we see how the regular UCL teams really have difficulty getting tickets to the last 16.
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Now Madrid only have to focus on the remaining matches because looking at the current schedule 2 of the 4 matches that will be carried out in weeks 5 and 6 will clearly be troublesome for them considering the opponents they have to face are Liverpool and Atalanta so even though Play off is an option for now but still they have to get points especially after 2 defeats which are quite painful making them currently in a less favorable position in the standings.Madrid still have a lot to make some schemes and of course the momentum must be built from scratch after several painful defeats at the Bernabeu.
Do not let the minus results always get them because after all even though the play offs now they can still get but of course they also still need points to tell that they are also still one of the clubs that are indeed favorites in the championship.
Maybe there needs to be some refreshing in the Real Madrid squad, such as maximizing some young players, but I don't see Ancelotti having the inclination to do that. Many of Real Madrid's young players are on the bench, even though they also have good quality. Ancelotti must be able to give them time to play, this will make them better.
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