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January 09, 2025, 07:54:15 AM
I also think so, overall Real Madrid's performance this season is very inconsistent and also the matches in UCL cannot be underestimated especially overall the strength of RB Salzburg and Brest is not that bad this season so it is also possible for RB Salzburg and Brest to make a surprise when playing against Real Madrid later.
I think everything is possible in the remaining 2 UCL matches before the playoffs later and I think Real Madrid cannot be favored excessively.

One thing that should on check in this last two matches left by every team, even those teams that are looking not too strong and playing against the big teams will also be fighting in order to get a spot in the playoffs even though they can’t make it to the next round directly. Playing in the playoffs will be like a big record to them than it will be for this big teams, so all big teams trying to survive this stage to the next round will be more careful in the remaining matches. Their fixtures may look very cheap but in reality of the champions league, no need can be underestimated and they should play and treat all teams equal if they really want to go far in this competition.

The point is, we won't know what will happen later because RB Salzburg and Brest certainly cannot be taken lightly because of course the UCL team is the best team from the results of a strict selection, so it's true that we can't overestimate because it could be RB. Salzburg and Brest provided surprises, for example, which made Real Madrid lose. Yes, the point is that all teams will definitely fight as hard as they can to win and of course we'll see what happens. Of course, for Brest and RB Salzburg it is a matter of pride to be able to play in the play-off round even if for example they don't qualify for the last 16.

but it looks like in the next match Real Madrid will play against RB Salzburg so I will bet on Real Madrid winning but if Real Madrid lose to RB Salzburg in the next match against Brest I will bet on Brest winning but it seems like my gut feeling says that Real Madrid will win against RB Salzburg even though I also know that there could be surprises in that match and of course we'll see what happens. But if, for example, Real Madrid loses, it seems certain that people's confidence in Real Madrid's strength will fade and Ancelotti and Real Madrid will definitely be sad.

Now Real Madrid is ranked 20th. Honestly, I didn't expect Real Madrid's fate to be like this, but I hope that Real Madrid can continue to win from now on and can finally get a place in the top 16.
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January 09, 2025, 07:24:29 AM
Real Madrid won't have any issues at all if you ask me, they will play Brest and Salzburg so it should be possible for them to even go into top 8. Of course it is going to be very difficult, probably not even possible at all. But right now, they are at 9 points, and eight team is Lille with 13 points, with even teams at 3rd team Arsenal has 13 points as well, so if Real Madrid wins both games then they will get six points, and will be 15 points as well which is good enough to be top eight right now.

But of course Real Madrid is 20th right now, so that means there are a lot of teams that can do better, and that's why I highly doubt that we are going to end up with a result any different at all. I believe we could see them at least easily be in top 24 and not have a worry that seems like the most important part of this. I can see how this could be a different result in most cases but this doesn't mean that we are going to see them be happy about it neither.
The opportunity to move up to 8th place at the end of this phase is possible if you succeed in winning the last two matches. but the problem is that the teams currently in the top 8 will also try to collect points so it will still be difficult. Real Madrid's chances are more likely to only reach the play-off round and qualify for the next stage by winning the play-off round.

Brest and RB Salzburg may not be strong teams like Real Madrid but surprises can happen. Moreover, Brest is a team that is quite surprising this season and I don't think we should be surprised if it turns out that Brest can hold Real Madrid to a draw. but beating Real Madrid seems difficult. But regarding RB Salzburg, I don't think they will be able to win the match against Real Madrid.
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January 09, 2025, 06:27:28 AM
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No match looks cheap, such a notion in relation to clubs that play in the Champions League seems incorrect to me. Every club that competes in the Champions League has qualified for this tournament by winning or vice-championship within their championship, it certainly cannot be called cheap or moreover to call such a team weak, it is simply incorrect. Just within the Champions League teams of completely different levels and each team looks different against the background of the other team
Is natural that there is such response because in reality not all team in the UCL competition are really strong team, it is true that they are the best team from the domestic League that get tickets to play in this competition but some team in the domestic League that qualify are not necessarily able to play well, such as PSG for example and there are also several other team from less popular League.
Everyone will have their own way of assessing team and even the quality of competition, as long as the competing team are strong here I think it will still be quality and competitive match.
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January 09, 2025, 03:28:43 AM
Real Madrid won't have any issues at all if you ask me, they will play Brest and Salzburg so it should be possible for them to even go into top 8. Of course it is going to be very difficult, probably not even possible at all. But right now, they are at 9 points, and eight team is Lille with 13 points, with even teams at 3rd team Arsenal has 13 points as well, so if Real Madrid wins both games then they will get six points, and will be 15 points as well which is good enough to be top eight right now.

But of course Real Madrid is 20th right now, so that means there are a lot of teams that can do better, and that's why I highly doubt that we are going to end up with a result any different at all. I believe we could see them at least easily be in top 24 and not have a worry that seems like the most important part of this. I can see how this could be a different result in most cases but this doesn't mean that we are going to see them be happy about it neither.
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January 09, 2025, 03:09:13 AM
One thing that should on check in this last two matches left by every team, even those teams that are looking not too strong and playing against the big teams will also be fighting in order to get a spot in the playoffs even though they can’t make it to the next round directly. Playing in the playoffs will be like a big record to them than it will be for this big teams, so all big teams trying to survive this stage to the next round will be more careful in the remaining matches. Their fixtures may look very cheap but in reality of the champions league, no need can be underestimated and they should play and treat all teams equal if they really want to go far in this competition.
I have to agree with you because in the Champions League there is no team that can be underestimated. Because all the teams that get tickets to the Champions League are teams that have fought very hard in their respective domestic leagues. So they won't give up easily. And it's possible that in the last two matches there will be surprises that could cause a team that is considered strong to lose.
Because this is UCL, unexpected things often happen here and that is something that is considered normal at UCL. because even ordinary teams can sometimes go further than other strong teams.
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January 09, 2025, 02:28:50 AM
Erling Haaland is starting to have difficulty scoring goals because De Bruyne's performance may have declined slightly, resulting in the flow of the ball for Erling Haaland stopping. But when facing West Ham, he managed to score two goals for Man City's victory and hopefully this will be a turning point for him and the team.

Manchester city is too big of a club to be depending on only one player to be supplying the ball to the goal scorers, I thought they had Phil Foden that could give assists and other players too. What I think happened was just Pep Guardiola losing control of his creative mind and there was nothing new that he could coach the players on and this cause the whole bad form that the club was on as you can't say it was only De Bruyne absence that cause the decline in the club. Some individual say it's the absence of Rodri that's causing the club to be in bad form therefore everybody has their own theory but atleast all that will be over soon as the players are regaining their form.
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January 09, 2025, 01:25:32 AM
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One thing i have always pointed out with the Manchester city team is the fact that Erling Haaland isn't a very skillful player, he's not a play maker, he's just good at scoring goals so basically i see him as a goal scorer or a finisher especially when it happens that he's got good assistance from his team mates such as Kevin d bruyne. if there be a good replacement in the main time to help Haaland, most likely he is going to be able to score goals again as he has been doing much earlier before now.
Manchester City need a reliable playmaker like Toni Kroos, Xavi and Iniesta who can control the rhythm of the match and create chances through one-two passes to make it easier for Haaland to score goals. It was all clear when KDB and Rodri were injured, Man City seemed to lose their balance and winning became something that was difficult to achieve. Haaland needs someone who can serve him in scoring goals because he only has the ability as a finisher.
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January 09, 2025, 12:41:33 AM
Maybe Manchester City shouldn't really care about what they could do with Champions League, they do not really look like they are going to do anyways, so maybe that shouldn't be the case here at all. Maybe they should only focus on premier league games. I do not know if they are still at EFL or FA as well but they should be out of it so we need to consider how they need to ONLY focus on premier league, that would be a lot better for them. I am not saying this is the only way, of course they could try their best but that doesn't mean that we are going to see this happening all that quickly but unfortunately City will end up being a bit more difficult and different in the end as well.

So all in all I believe we could be considering City being in top four of premier league as much more important. Just focus on that, they look like they are doing better for the last two games, just do that and I am sure they will be fine.
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January 08, 2025, 08:12:32 PM
I also think so, overall Real Madrid's performance this season is very inconsistent and also the matches in UCL cannot be underestimated especially overall the strength of RB Salzburg and Brest is not that bad this season so it is also possible for RB Salzburg and Brest to make a surprise when playing against Real Madrid later.
I think everything is possible in the remaining 2 UCL matches before the playoffs later and I think Real Madrid cannot be favored excessively.
Looking at Real Madrid's current performance I agree with you that we cannot favor Real Madrid in every match. Real Madrid is inconsistent this season but in La Liga their performance is not that bad. They are still consistent in the top ranking with only 2 defeats. But their performance is indeed inconsistent in UCL with 3 wins and 3 defeats. They are in 20th place in UCL and their position can be taken by any team in the ranking below them. The difference in points in the UCL standings is very thin with only 1 or 2 points. But if you look at Real Madrid's mentality I am sure they will qualify for the next round even through the playoffs. I think we have often seen Real Madrid make an extraordinary comeback like in the match against Valencia.
Real Madrid had a poor performance in the Champions League but that was in the beginning but later they came back brilliantly in the Champions League so now you can count on Real Madrid. If Real Madrid can't be trusted in the Champions League, I don't see any other team that I can trust more than Real Madrid. The teams that did well in the Champions League last season, we didn't see good performances from the teams at the start of this season and we felt that this season might be a bit of a mess. However, Real Madrid returns to good performance and still shows the hope of Madrid fans. I am only worried about whether Manchester City or Bayern Munich will be able to perform in the Champions League like they did last season.
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January 08, 2025, 05:32:33 PM
This season Manchester City has faced many obstacles and difficulties, both in the Premier League and the UCL. This absence of key players has made Manchester City's situation worse in the competition. not only using Erling Haaland as the key in the game. I think a coach must look for a new solution for City to return to its glory.
The decline in Man City's team performance cannot be separated from the injuries of several important players in the squad and also cannot be separated from De Bruyne's performance who has experienced a decline in performance as a field general. In the last two matches, they have started to find their best form, although they may not be consistent in the future, but this should be the first step for them to fix all the shortcomings that have occurred this season, both in the Champions League and in the Premier League.

Erling Haaland is starting to have difficulty scoring goals because De Bruyne's performance may have declined slightly, resulting in the flow of the ball for Erling Haaland stopping. But when facing West Ham, he managed to score two goals for Man City's victory and hopefully this will be a turning point for him and the team.
One thing i have always pointed out with the Manchester city team is the fact that Erling Haaland isn't a very skillful player, he's not a play maker, he's just good at scoring goals so basically i see him as a goal scorer or a finisher especially when it happens that he's got good assistance from his team mates such as Kevin d bruyne. if there be a good replacement in the main time to help Haaland, most likely he is going to be able to score goals again as he has been doing much earlier before now.
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January 08, 2025, 05:29:05 PM
Looking at Real Madrid's current performance I agree with you that we cannot favor Real Madrid in every match. Real Madrid is inconsistent this season but in La Liga their performance is not that bad. They are still consistent in the top ranking with only 2 defeats. But their performance is indeed inconsistent in UCL with 3 wins and 3 defeats. They are in 20th place in UCL and their position can be taken by any team in the ranking below them. The difference in points in the UCL standings is very thin with only 1 or 2 points. But if you look at Real Madrid's mentality I am sure they will qualify for the next round even through the playoffs. I think we have often seen Real Madrid make an extraordinary comeback like in the match against Valencia.
That’s just the facts about Real Madrid performance in this champion league their performance look unserious compared to how the there make a strong performed in the La Liga, but my own view of thinking is that may be they’ve more interest on the La Liga then others leagues that’s why they put much efforts in that league.

The best thing for Real Madrid team to do is that they should go and face the La Liga, instead of them should be wasting their time and energy in the champions league and their performance is didn’t improve anymore; look at then in table they far left behind.
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January 08, 2025, 04:43:02 PM
I also think so, overall Real Madrid's performance this season is very inconsistent and also the matches in UCL cannot be underestimated especially overall the strength of RB Salzburg and Brest is not that bad this season so it is also possible for RB Salzburg and Brest to make a surprise when playing against Real Madrid later.
I think everything is possible in the remaining 2 UCL matches before the playoffs later and I think Real Madrid cannot be favored excessively.

One thing that should on check in this last two matches left by every team, even those teams that are looking not too strong and playing against the big teams will also be fighting in order to get a spot in the playoffs even though they can’t make it to the next round directly. Playing in the playoffs will be like a big record to them than it will be for this big teams, so all big teams trying to survive this stage to the next round will be more careful in the remaining matches. Their fixtures may look very cheap but in reality of the champions league, no need can be underestimated and they should play and treat all teams equal if they really want to go far in this competition.

No match looks cheap, such a notion in relation to clubs that play in the Champions League seems incorrect to me. Every club that competes in the Champions League has qualified for this tournament by winning or vice-championship within their championship, it certainly cannot be called cheap or moreover to call such a team weak, it is simply incorrect. Just within the Champions League teams of completely different levels and each team looks different against the background of the other team
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January 08, 2025, 03:17:10 PM
I also think so, overall Real Madrid's performance this season is very inconsistent and also the matches in UCL cannot be underestimated especially overall the strength of RB Salzburg and Brest is not that bad this season so it is also possible for RB Salzburg and Brest to make a surprise when playing against Real Madrid later.
I think everything is possible in the remaining 2 UCL matches before the playoffs later and I think Real Madrid cannot be favored excessively.

One thing that should on check in this last two matches left by every team, even those teams that are looking not too strong and playing against the big teams will also be fighting in order to get a spot in the playoffs even though they can’t make it to the next round directly. Playing in the playoffs will be like a big record to them than it will be for this big teams, so all big teams trying to survive this stage to the next round will be more careful in the remaining matches. Their fixtures may look very cheap but in reality of the champions league, no need can be underestimated and they should play and treat all teams equal if they really want to go far in this competition.
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January 08, 2025, 03:15:48 PM
This season Manchester City has faced many obstacles and difficulties, both in the Premier League and the UCL. This absence of key players has made Manchester City's situation worse in the competition. not only using Erling Haaland as the key in the game. I think a coach must look for a new solution for City to return to its glory.
The decline in Man City's team performance cannot be separated from the injuries of several important players in the squad and also cannot be separated from De Bruyne's performance who has experienced a decline in performance as a field general. In the last two matches, they have started to find their best form, although they may not be consistent in the future, but this should be the first step for them to fix all the shortcomings that have occurred this season, both in the Champions League and in the Premier League.

Erling Haaland is starting to have difficulty scoring goals because De Bruyne's performance may have declined slightly, resulting in the flow of the ball for Erling Haaland stopping. But when facing West Ham, he managed to score two goals for Man City's victory and hopefully this will be a turning point for him and the team.

Seriously. Manchester City is experiencing a tough time this season; their performance is poor this season, although I think it’s already late for them because De Bruyne is facing a decline in his performance, and he is one of the key players of the Manchester City squad. And again, their last performance should not make you think they are getting back their performance; you need to watch more of their games before you conclude whether their performance is back or not. I think you shouldn’t conclude or think they are back because of their last game.

Yeah you are right, we can't just say they are back because of the win they got against West Ham, however they have improved, but I don't see them lifting any trophy this season and for champions League they may not even go far in the competition because of there performance however if they improve more than this they will, the problem of Manchester city now is not the coach but the players they have lost form and is time for pep guardiola to make some serious amendment by buying more informed players and that should be next season, Eric Holland is still much inform all he needs is someone that will give him ball to score.
No team remain inform every season, this is there bad season and I'm very sure they will come out of it from next season, real Madrid where having issues and that was because mbappe has not blended with the team very well,
I believe that if Manchester city will buy other good players next season especially a player that can be feeding Holland with good pass to score then they are good to go.
Kevin De Bruyne was very good and inform he was really one of the person's that was behind the success of Manchester city but he has lost form and one really can't tell some say is because of his age and that may be true however it may be some private issues but what ever be the case pep guardiola also needs someone that can support the team the way Kevin De Bruyne did.
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January 08, 2025, 03:13:51 PM
I have really missed the Champions League.  Roll Eyes  It has been a really long break... The latest matches were played a month ago and the next ones are starting as of January 21.

I hope we don't see another long break after the end of league phase. Probably there would be another one after the qualification playoffs. Anyway now the most impressive team so far is Liverpool obviously. Winning 6 out of 6 matches is amazing work! There were competitive opponents such as Leverkusen and Real Madrid among those ones too but none of them was able to stand in their way. Do you think they will keep this up as of last 16?

It is still a mystery for their results in the last 16 round later, because the team that has good results in this round, of course still has the opportunity to get different results in the knockout round later. So, even though Liverpool can be said to be perfect so far and the other teams are not so good and even, some favorite teams will also go through the play-off round,  but I believe that they will also get results that may be better in the knockout round later. So yes, there is no complete certainty for them in the further round, but to make predictions it will still be interesting because  we also have to keep doing it to get good choices in betting.
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January 08, 2025, 03:11:40 PM
I also think so, overall Real Madrid's performance this season is very inconsistent and also the matches in UCL cannot be underestimated especially overall the strength of RB Salzburg and Brest is not that bad this season so it is also possible for RB Salzburg and Brest to make a surprise when playing against Real Madrid later.
I think everything is possible in the remaining 2 UCL matches before the playoffs later and I think Real Madrid cannot be favored excessively.
Looking at Real Madrid's current performance I agree with you that we cannot favor Real Madrid in every match. Real Madrid is inconsistent this season but in La Liga their performance is not that bad. They are still consistent in the top ranking with only 2 defeats. But their performance is indeed inconsistent in UCL with 3 wins and 3 defeats. They are in 20th place in UCL and their position can be taken by any team in the ranking below them. The difference in points in the UCL standings is very thin with only 1 or 2 points. But if you look at Real Madrid's mentality I am sure they will qualify for the next round even through the playoffs. I think we have often seen Real Madrid make an extraordinary comeback like in the match against Valencia.
It seems you are still using the initial poor performance of Madrid to judge their current state. They have improved and most of their players are back from injury with stable performance. You can see that in their Laliga matches. Those times that Madrid got those three defeats was when they were still struggling to overcome their injury challenges. Big clubs were the ones who defeated them, Madrid will play with two average clubs.
Those players who went on injury were one of the major challenge that lead to Real Madrid to poor performances towards the beginning of this season and now that some of them are back, it only a matter of time Real Madrid will be fully back to form and any team that they will be meeting and play against, will play them with great fierce, and secondly if Real Madrid wants to perform way better than before the start of the season, They should not over rely on the performance of Kylian Mbappé.
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January 08, 2025, 03:02:10 PM
I also think so, overall Real Madrid's performance this season is very inconsistent and also the matches in UCL cannot be underestimated especially overall the strength of RB Salzburg and Brest is not that bad this season so it is also possible for RB Salzburg and Brest to make a surprise when playing against Real Madrid later.
I think everything is possible in the remaining 2 UCL matches before the playoffs later and I think Real Madrid cannot be favored excessively.
Looking at Real Madrid's current performance I agree with you that we cannot favor Real Madrid in every match. Real Madrid is inconsistent this season but in La Liga their performance is not that bad. They are still consistent in the top ranking with only 2 defeats. But their performance is indeed inconsistent in UCL with 3 wins and 3 defeats. They are in 20th place in UCL and their position can be taken by any team in the ranking below them. The difference in points in the UCL standings is very thin with only 1 or 2 points. But if you look at Real Madrid's mentality I am sure they will qualify for the next round even through the playoffs. I think we have often seen Real Madrid make an extraordinary comeback like in the match against Valencia.

Real Madrid is doing well this season, it's just that their players are injured, which is causing them to lose in the UCL. However, Real Madrid only has two games to qualify for the next round, and I believe they will win both of them. Madrid plays poorly in some games, but when it comes to qualifying or knocking out, Real Madrid is always the best team to win, thus I am confident Madrid will do all necessary to go to the next round alongside the insect club.
 
The laliga standings that Madrid play as show that Madrid are good even when they are not complete on the pitch. they always believe that there is no big club like them that can defeat them, which is why they usually win trophies because they have a coach who never gives up on his players; he believes in any player in the team. And that is why, as of now, Madrid will always be the best. Let's see how the competition progresses and who qualifies for the tough stages. Liverpool as not lost any ucl match and that is a god record and the two games that remains for them I think they will win all of them. since the team that they will play the rest games with are not too that strong in the competition.
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January 08, 2025, 02:41:54 PM
It seems you are still using the initial poor performance of Madrid to judge their current state. They have improved and most of their players are back from injury with stable performance. You can see that in their Laliga matches. Those times that Madrid got those three defeats was when they were still struggling to overcome their injury challenges. Big clubs were the ones who defeated them, Madrid will play with two average clubs.

Right, at least now they are starting to improve by winning their matches again. but their work and challenges have not been fully overcome, especially when meeting strong teams in the Champions League. yes it is true that some players have recovered from their injuries and that really helps Carlo Ancelotti, but the problem in the midfield sector has not been fully resolved properly. if we look at the two remaining matches against Madrid later, Madrid should be able to sweep with a win. I am quite sure, after all they still have a chance for that. well, let's just say Madrid qualifies for the next round, Ancelotti has homework to maximize his midfielders. if he is able to overcome their problems, then do not doubt if Madrid plays at their best level of play. but before going there, let's just take the time to follow the rest of the Champions League qualifying matches for all teams.
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January 08, 2025, 01:07:51 PM
This season Manchester City has faced many obstacles and difficulties, both in the Premier League and the UCL. This absence of key players has made Manchester City's situation worse in the competition. not only using Erling Haaland as the key in the game. I think a coach must look for a new solution for City to return to its glory.
The decline in Man City's team performance cannot be separated from the injuries of several important players in the squad and also cannot be separated from De Bruyne's performance who has experienced a decline in performance as a field general. In the last two matches, they have started to find their best form, although they may not be consistent in the future, but this should be the first step for them to fix all the shortcomings that have occurred this season, both in the Champions League and in the Premier League.

Erling Haaland is starting to have difficulty scoring goals because De Bruyne's performance may have declined slightly, resulting in the flow of the ball for Erling Haaland stopping. But when facing West Ham, he managed to score two goals for Man City's victory and hopefully this will be a turning point for him and the team.

Seriously. Manchester City is experiencing a tough time this season; their performance is poor this season, although I think it’s already late for them because De Bruyne is facing a decline in his performance, and he is one of the key players of the Manchester City squad. And again, their last performance should not make you think they are getting back their performance; you need to watch more of their games before you conclude whether their performance is back or not. I think you shouldn’t conclude or think they are back because of their last game. 
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January 08, 2025, 12:57:57 PM
I also think so, overall Real Madrid's performance this season is very inconsistent and also the matches in UCL cannot be underestimated especially overall the strength of RB Salzburg and Brest is not that bad this season so it is also possible for RB Salzburg and Brest to make a surprise when playing against Real Madrid later.
I think everything is possible in the remaining 2 UCL matches before the playoffs later and I think Real Madrid cannot be favored excessively.
Looking at Real Madrid's current performance I agree with you that we cannot favor Real Madrid in every match. Real Madrid is inconsistent this season but in La Liga their performance is not that bad. They are still consistent in the top ranking with only 2 defeats. But their performance is indeed inconsistent in UCL with 3 wins and 3 defeats. They are in 20th place in UCL and their position can be taken by any team in the ranking below them. The difference in points in the UCL standings is very thin with only 1 or 2 points. But if you look at Real Madrid's mentality I am sure they will qualify for the next round even through the playoffs. I think we have often seen Real Madrid make an extraordinary comeback like in the match against Valencia.
It seems you are still using the initial poor performance of Madrid to judge their current state. They have improved and most of their players are back from injury with stable performance. You can see that in their Laliga matches. Those times that Madrid got those three defeats was when they were still struggling to overcome their injury challenges. Big clubs were the ones who defeated them, Madrid will play with two average clubs.
We all know now that Real Madrid will win their remaining two games. There will probably be no surprises. I definitely expect a win against Salzburg, the Austrian representative. They can score a lot of goals against Salzburg. Then they will go to France and play Brest. I don't think they will get a surprise score against Brest. They will beat them too and probably earn another six points and end the first stage of the Champions League.
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