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October 09, 2024, 06:01:27 PM
Guys, what do you think about this season? Do you think we will see an unusual club making it to the CL title? Or will it be one of the clubs among Real Madrid, Manchester City and Bayern MunichHuh

Yeah I'm considering all the remaining clubs as unusual or whatever you can call it. Because if you have noticed for quite many years, these clubs have been stepping forward. Especially the king of the competition Real Madrid.  Grin  This year, I see Arsenal being given more chance than Bayern Munich for the title for example. They would be pretty unusual considering they have 0 CL titles achieved.

However I feel like once again one of the 3 clubs I mentioned at the beginning will win it again.

I would say
90% of times clubs who are whilling to pay the biggest salaries for top players will arrive at the end of the completion.
Real Madrid and Manchester City in the past 5 years are always been near the final for that reason.
Bayern is falling for many years right now.

for the remaining 10% of the times you will have an unexpected team going in to the final, often caused by an easier final stage like inter 2 years ago.
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October 09, 2024, 05:56:13 PM
Do you know what odds the bookies are offering in the Barcelona vs Bayern Munich match?
Maybe there is a big difference in terms of odds?

The bookies are not good deciders of how a game will end, I've seen otherwise several occasions.
I can vouch for Hansi Flick being a good coach and manager and outplaying whatever tactics that'll be used by Vincent Kompany but I can not say that for the defenders if they can hold down Bayern Munich players during that game. That defense is too weak to contain players like Harry Kane, Jamal Musiala and Co's. In between, since 2020, the last five fixtures between these two sides been won by Bayern Munich. It's high time we see a win or draw from Barcelona.

Barcelona has a good team to stand against Bayern Munich and they can definitely have the chance to beat Bayern Munich like the other games they had against this team and It will definitely be interesting to watch the game between these two teams but still, I think Flick will have a hard day against Kompany because Flick got a good team but the whole team is very young and they don't have enough experience, especially the defenders in Barcelona were too young and this can be dangerous for Flick and his player for play against players like Kane who know how to score goals for his team.
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October 09, 2024, 04:33:07 PM
A very Healthy attack is one thing kompany has been able to build with Bayern Munich and that has been of a great advantage to him and one thing he shouldn't fail to do just already is to make sure is defense is equally balanced aswell, he's very smart enough to get a strategy that has helped him cover up for the defensive lapses but then that may not apply to every opponent so its become very important kompany start working on the strength of his defense so when he get goals he will be able to guard his goals to victory in every game.
Of course Kompany has his own way of bringing the flow of the game to be better when the team is already leading in the match. But if you look at the previous match where Bayern Munich conceded in the final minutes when they were held to a draw by Frankfurt, of course that is a big evaluation so that the team can maintain their advantage until the end of the match. Sometimes the players have assumed they will win so that their additional time is no longer consistent and that's where Kompany's job is to make changes for the team to remain consistent until the end of the match.

In the Champions League, a strong team from La Liga will be Bayern Munich's opponent in the third match of the Champions League this season. Bayern Munich must be able to steal 3 points at Barcelona's home because victory will be important enough to improve their position in the standings. Barcelona is a strong team so it takes hard work and finding a gap to beat Barcelona.
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October 09, 2024, 04:28:37 PM
Barcelona are performing well in La Liga and regularly beat the big teams so the match against Barcelona will not be easy for Bayern Munich. But overall, I would slightly favor Bayern Munich in this Champions League match. Bayern Munich's biggest problem right now is their defense. Since all other positions except defense are fine, if the Bayern Munich manager only plans on defense, they can easily go ahead against Barcelona. But I would never say that Bayern Munich will win by a big margin against Barcelona. The result of this match may be a draw and if either team wins, the margin may be 1-0 or 2-1. Eagerly waiting to watch this important match of Champions League and looking forward to match my prediction with the match.
The depth of Bayern's squad is actually quite convincing if everything is utilized properly there. And Bayern's defense is slightly weaker than Barcelona's. But all that was replaced by Bayern's sharp attack line. But Barcelona's condition, which is currently in a good phase, will be difficult to stop. My estimate is that the Barcelona vs Bayern match will be fierce but many goals will be scored in that match. Because from the start both teams will apply a very aggressive attacking strategy as usual. And maybe improving the defense line would be a good step in preparing for this match.
This happened because it was based on Kompany's plans that did not match expectations.
There were several defenders he tried to bring in and it was a dead end like the case of Jonathan Tah who ended up staying at Leverkusen even though previously for rumors he would go to Bayern this season there was even news about a personal agreement about it.
In addition, Ito's severe injury also made their defensive line find another complicated situation where hope was in Ito but he still could not be played until now even though they had previously lost De Ligt who was left to go to Manchester United.

Bayern's defense can actually still be stronger but sometimes the situation where Kompany's scheme is always offensive and forces their full-backs to overlap it always backfires where they are not too ready to counterattack, so when there is a slight change or at least the players in their full-backs are not too far raised to maintain midfield stability then their defense can actually still be improved slowly.
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October 09, 2024, 04:25:05 PM
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Barcelona are in a good performance, but for Bayern Munich they are struggling with their defense, with if they will have a very good intervention on that they will provide a solution to their defense. But still that doesn’t mean that they will be able to win against Barcelona, due to the present performance of Barcelona it will be a big struggle for Bayern Munich even though this is Champions League not La Liga. The prediction on the results is uncertain to me but I have more hope on Barcelona than I have for Bayern Munich. Or it might be a draw, even though I don’t expect a draw in the game.
If Bayern succeeds in improving their weakness, namely their back line, then Bayern could even potentially beat Barcelona. But the problem is that we rarely see improving the level of defense in a short time. Especially for teams that have a busy schedule. But let's just see if Bayern with Vincent Kompany can surprise us this season in the UCL.

But talking about the very young Bayern coach, Vincent Kompany, it seems that this young coach has indeed brought positive things to the team in the Bundesliga. But actually, personally, I still doubt this 38 year old coach in big matches like the UCL.
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October 09, 2024, 04:23:05 PM
Guys, what do you think about this season? Do you think we will see an unusual club making it to the CL title? Or will it be one of the clubs among Real Madrid, Manchester City and Bayern MunichHuh

Yeah I'm considering all the remaining clubs as unusual or whatever you can call it. Because if you have noticed for quite many years, these clubs have been stepping forward. Especially the king of the competition Real Madrid.  Grin  This year, I see Arsenal being given more chance than Bayern Munich for the title for example. They would be pretty unusual considering they have 0 CL titles achieved.

However I feel like once again one of the 3 clubs I mentioned at the beginning will win it again.
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October 09, 2024, 04:03:11 PM
Barcelona are performing well in La Liga and regularly beat the big teams so the match against Barcelona will not be easy for Bayern Munich. But overall, I would slightly favor Bayern Munich in this Champions League match. Bayern Munich's biggest problem right now is their defense. Since all other positions except defense are fine, if the Bayern Munich manager only plans on defense, they can easily go ahead against Barcelona. But I would never say that Bayern Munich will win by a big margin against Barcelona. The result of this match may be a draw and if either team wins, the margin may be 1-0 or 2-1. Eagerly waiting to watch this important match of Champions League and looking forward to match my prediction with the match.
The depth of Bayern's squad is actually quite convincing if everything is utilized properly there. And Bayern's defense is slightly weaker than Barcelona's. But all that was replaced by Bayern's sharp attack line. But Barcelona's condition, which is currently in a good phase, will be difficult to stop. My estimate is that the Barcelona vs Bayern match will be fierce but many goals will be scored in that match. Because from the start both teams will apply a very aggressive attacking strategy as usual. And maybe improving the defense line would be a good step in preparing for this match.

Barcelona are in a good performance, but for Bayern Munich they are struggling with their defense, with if they will have a very good intervention on that they will provide a solution to their defense. But still that doesn’t mean that they will be able to win against Barcelona, due to the present performance of Barcelona it will be a big struggle for Bayern Munich even though this is Champions League not La Liga. The prediction on the results is uncertain to me but I have more hope on Barcelona than I have for Bayern Munich. Or it might be a draw, even though I don’t expect a draw in the game.
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October 09, 2024, 03:56:20 PM
I have seen how Munich played against Leverkusen, Aston Villa and Frankfurt, Defence is still a problem that Kompany has not been able to overcome especially in the last match where they conceded three goals. This kind of defense is very easy for Barcelona to penetrate, especially since their front line has been very productive this season.
If defense is still Bayern Munich's weak point, Kompany will definitely make improvements when facing Barcelona in the Champions League after the international break is over.
Barcelona is indeed in the best condition but Barcelona's victory so far is because the teams they have defeated are overall still below Bayern Munich's quality.
Visiting Barcelona's headquarters, I still don't think Bayern Munich can have high-level difficulties like the lower teams in the domestic league.
A very Healthy attack is one thing kompany has been able to build with Bayern Munich and that has been of a great advantage to him and one thing he shouldn't fail to do just already is to make sure is defense is equally balanced aswell, he's very smart enough to get a strategy that has helped him cover up for the defensive lapses but then that may not apply to every opponent so its become very important kompany start working on the strength of his defense so when he get goals he will be able to guard his goals to victory in every game.
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October 09, 2024, 03:34:39 PM
Barcelona are performing well in La Liga and regularly beat the big teams so the match against Barcelona will not be easy for Bayern Munich. But overall, I would slightly favor Bayern Munich in this Champions League match. Bayern Munich's biggest problem right now is their defense. Since all other positions except defense are fine, if the Bayern Munich manager only plans on defense, they can easily go ahead against Barcelona. But I would never say that Bayern Munich will win by a big margin against Barcelona. The result of this match may be a draw and if either team wins, the margin may be 1-0 or 2-1. Eagerly waiting to watch this important match of Champions League and looking forward to match my prediction with the match.
The depth of Bayern's squad is actually quite convincing if everything is utilized properly there. And Bayern's defense is slightly weaker than Barcelona's. But all that was replaced by Bayern's sharp attack line. But Barcelona's condition, which is currently in a good phase, will be difficult to stop. My estimate is that the Barcelona vs Bayern match will be fierce but many goals will be scored in that match. Because from the start both teams will apply a very aggressive attacking strategy as usual. And maybe improving the defense line would be a good step in preparing for this match.
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October 09, 2024, 03:25:58 PM
Tuesday 22nd October
AC Milan 17:45 Club Brugge
Monaco 17:45 Crvena Zvezda
Arsenal 20:00 Shakhtar Donetsk
Aston Villa 20:00 Bologna
Girona 20:00 SK Slovan Bratislava
Juventus 20:00 Stuttgart
Paris Saint-Germain 20:00 PSV Eindhoven
Real Madrid 20:00 Borussia Dortmund
Sturm Graz 20:00 Sporting Lisbon

Wednesday 23rd October
Atalanta 17:45 Celtic
Brest 17:45 Bayer Leverkusen
Atletico Madrid 20:00 Lille
BSC Young Boys Bern 20:00 Inter Milan
Barcelona 20:00 Bayern Munich
Benfica 20:00 Feyenoord
Manchester City 20:00 Sparta Prague
RB Leipzig 20:00 Liverpool
Red Bull Salzburg 20:00 Dinamo Zagreb

https://www.skysports.com/champions-league-fixtures

No cl this week due the national matches.
I hate these break.

A better way could be to not do breaks, ends leagues 1 month earlier and then give 1 month to national team.

too easy for them, just better ruin seasons with stupid injuries in low importance or friendly games.


2 big games next turn btw.
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October 09, 2024, 03:18:24 PM
Champions League is definitely tougher than La Liga. Because almost every team in the Champions League is very strong. So continuing the winning streak in the Champions League is not an easy task. Barcelona was defeated in the first match of the Champions League. But in the second match we saw a great comeback from Barcelona. We saw Barcelona win by a huge margin of 5-0 against Young Boys.

On the other hand, we saw the Bayern Munich team win by a big margin in the opening matches of this season. But in the last three matches we have seen poor performances from Munich. Munich conceded 5 goals and scored 4 in the last three matches. Munich's overall performance is now weak. So it will be very difficult for Munich to get 3 points against Barcelona. I'd say both Munich and Barcelona have a 50-50 chance of winning.
Speaking of H2H, it is clear that Bayern Munich outperforms but now it might be a little different where Flick could overthrow Bayern Munich at home, although it is not certain, let's just say that like a wild prediction, the 50:50 chance is correct.

Even for the bettors may still believe they will bet on Barcelona despite having a bad record when meeting Bayern Munich. Instead here Barcelona have their own motivation where they can win over Bayern Munich.

Not going to conclude now, maybe the odds I think the most is that both teams score this score is still very likely to win the odds.
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October 09, 2024, 03:17:11 PM

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I also think that Bayern Munich will not be able to slaughter Barcelona with a higher score and even if Bayern Munich can win the match, it could only be with a very thin score because this season Barcelona has experienced quite good changes in all the lines they have. The match at home could indeed make Barcelona's chances of winning bigger, but because this is the Champions League, of course every victory will not happen more easily if each team does not give all the abilities they currently have.
Barcelona are performing well in La Liga and regularly beat the big teams so the match against Barcelona will not be easy for Bayern Munich. But overall, I would slightly favor Bayern Munich in this Champions League match. Bayern Munich's biggest problem right now is their defense. Since all other positions except defense are fine, if the Bayern Munich manager only plans on defense, they can easily go ahead against Barcelona. But I would never say that Bayern Munich will win by a big margin against Barcelona. The result of this match may be a draw and if either team wins, the margin may be 1-0 or 2-1. Eagerly waiting to watch this important match of Champions League and looking forward to match my prediction with the match.

Barcelona and Bayern Munich are both doing well in their domestic leagues, and that shows both are in great form. Even their statistics in the Champions League show they are in good form. So currently, based on these two teams' performances, it will be difficult to predict which team will win the match. However, if we look over a few recent matches between Barcelona and Bayern Munich, I would say that Bayern may be the favorite team. But considering the changes that have happened at Bayern Munich, this is not the Bayern we have known over the past five seasons. Bayern Munich's performances have significantly reduced, and they are just now getting their form back.

Bayern Munich may not be strong in every area, but the truth is that they have a great attacking line. That is why they always score many goals. It would be very hard for Bayern Munich to focus solely on defense—it’s not their playing style. They are all about attacking. If they score, they don't have much concern about their defense. Bayern Munich’s target is simply to win. So, in their upcoming game against Barcelona, I believe both teams will score, and there will probably be many goals. But let’s see what happens on that day.
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October 09, 2024, 03:14:41 PM
Barcelona are performing well in La Liga and regularly beat the big teams so the match against Barcelona will not be easy for Bayern Munich. But overall, I would slightly favor Bayern Munich in this Champions League match. Bayern Munich's biggest problem right now is their defense. Since all other positions except defense are fine, if the Bayern Munich manager only plans on defense, they can easily go ahead against Barcelona. But I would never say that Bayern Munich will win by a big margin against Barcelona. The result of this match may be a draw and if either team wins, the margin may be 1-0 or 2-1. Eagerly waiting to watch this important match of Champions League and looking forward to match my prediction with the match.

Barcelona have been doing very great this season in the la liga their coach came with a very go insight of taking them to the next level.  And Barcelona facing Bayern is going to be a tug of war because them does two are good and they want to play well based on how important the game is to the both of them and no matter how they are good they have to be a winner except if they will defend and draw the game. And Bayern as a issue of defense which gives Barcelona a lead over them, but never the less there can still be surprise's from Bayern, am just calculating on how to exactly place my bet because I don't want to take to much chances and am always scared of betting games like this.

Am still have doubts about the big margin because Barcelona is not some kind of club that Bayern will be able to win easily and am a feeling that if their should be a win then it will definitely be 2:1 but we're exactly is the winning coming from I can say but I also have a stronger conviction for 1:1 or 2:2 when it eventually comes to draw.
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October 09, 2024, 02:55:16 PM
Exactly. But I think the Champions League is tough compared to La Liga, although Bayern Munich are also facing problems in their defence, as you said. You are right, but I won’t give Barcelona a high chance of winning against them. It could be a draw, as you predicted, but they will find it difficult to win; Bayern Munich won’t allow that to happen.

Barcelona are also doing well currently, but La Liga is different from the Champions League; only a few clubs get the same performance in many competitions. That is why I’m still curious about the Barcelona match again against Bayern Munich, but let’s not conclude by now; let's wait till the day of the match and see the outcome since it looks difficult to predict.

Champions League is definitely tougher than La Liga. Because almost every team in the Champions League is very strong. So continuing the winning streak in the Champions League is not an easy task. Barcelona was defeated in the first match of the Champions League. But in the second match we saw a great comeback from Barcelona. We saw Barcelona win by a huge margin of 5-0 against Young Boys.

On the other hand, we saw the Bayern Munich team win by a big margin in the opening matches of this season. But in the last three matches we have seen poor performances from Munich. Munich conceded 5 goals and scored 4 in the last three matches. Munich's overall performance is now weak. So it will be very difficult for Munich to get 3 points against Barcelona. I'd say both Munich and Barcelona have a 50-50 chance of winning.
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October 09, 2024, 02:20:58 PM
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I also think that Bayern Munich will not be able to slaughter Barcelona with a higher score and even if Bayern Munich can win the match, it could only be with a very thin score because this season Barcelona has experienced quite good changes in all the lines they have. The match at home could indeed make Barcelona's chances of winning bigger, but because this is the Champions League, of course every victory will not happen more easily if each team does not give all the abilities they currently have.
Barcelona are performing well in La Liga and regularly beat the big teams so the match against Barcelona will not be easy for Bayern Munich. But overall, I would slightly favor Bayern Munich in this Champions League match. Bayern Munich's biggest problem right now is their defense. Since all other positions except defense are fine, if the Bayern Munich manager only plans on defense, they can easily go ahead against Barcelona. But I would never say that Bayern Munich will win by a big margin against Barcelona. The result of this match may be a draw and if either team wins, the margin may be 1-0 or 2-1. Eagerly waiting to watch this important match of Champions League and looking forward to match my prediction with the match.

Exactly. But I think the Champions League is tough compared to La Liga, although Bayern Munich are also facing problems in their defence, as you said. You are right, but I won’t give Barcelona a high chance of winning against them. It could be a draw, as you predicted, but they will find it difficult to win; Bayern Munich won’t allow that to happen.

Barcelona are also doing well currently, but La Liga is different from the Champions League; only a few clubs get the same performance in many competitions. That is why I’m still curious about the Barcelona match again against Bayern Munich, but let’s not conclude by now; let's wait till the day of the match and see the outcome since it looks difficult to predict.
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October 09, 2024, 01:52:48 PM
But indeed, it seems that a draw might be very possible to happen but at least, because Barcelona has Hansi Flick and also Lewandowski who previously had a big influence at Bayern Munich and now they play and work for Barcelona.

Predicting the draw may not be a good option because this two clubs has always not been on favour of draw matches and is been a while I saw them play draw, so is mostly very rare cases to see Bayern Munich and Barcelona play a draw match because it always end against against one side, so actually I'm only saying this based on how it has always been for them but since there has been a lot of new development on this season from the both sides your prediction could also be true because Bayern Munich will be doing a lot of management on there defense that day because they still have an unresolved issue.
There is nothing wrong with saying that there will be a draw at the end of the match even though I agree that the past meetings between these two teams have always ended in one side, referring to H2H Bayern Munich has the advantage but currently the conditions are different Barcelona in the hands of Hansi Flick knows a little more about Bayern Munich's weaknesses, of course Hansi Flick has implemented a plan like what will be used later to get 3 points, on the one hand this is Kompany's debut as a coach against a strong club he also wants to prove and present 3 valuable points.
However, in this match I would prefer Barcelona, ​​​​they clearly have the advantage of playing in front of supporters and so far they have been quite stable in every line.
On the other hand, Munich needs polish in its defense line.
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October 09, 2024, 01:25:31 PM
Do you know what odds the bookies are offering in the Barcelona vs Bayern Munich match?
Maybe there is a big difference in terms of odds?
The bookies are not good deciders of how a game will end, I've seen otherwise several occasions.
I don't ask the bookies which match will end but the odds on offer.

At this moment I get odds for Barcelona @2.15 and for Bayern Munich @3.00 and I think these odds are decent odds because at least, I think Barcelona has a chance to win because I also consider the work of Hansi Flick and the Barcelona squad which is getting better now compared to last season. About Bayern Munich, although still in a good trend, but I think Bayern Munich is experiencing a slight decline in performance although indeed, I also admit that Bayern Munich could win or maybe just hold Barcelona to a draw at the Estadi Olímpic Lluís Companys.
Thank you.
Now I have an idea of the odds offered by the bookies and it looks like Barcelona is the favorite but this is not certain because Bayern Munich UCL matches are always different in reality.

Hansi Flick being at Barcelona seems like a no-brainer and Bayern Munich having a new coach, it's still hard to guess who will win, but my gut feeling is that it will be Bayern Munich.
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October 09, 2024, 01:04:38 PM
Barcelona are performing well in La Liga and regularly beat the big teams so the match against Barcelona will not be easy for Bayern Munich. But overall, I would slightly favor Bayern Munich in this Champions League match. Bayern Munich's biggest problem right now is their defense. Since all other positions except defense are fine, if the Bayern Munich manager only plans on defense, they can easily go ahead against Barcelona. But I would never say that Bayern Munich will win by a big margin against Barcelona. The result of this match may be a draw and if either team wins, the margin may be 1-0 or 2-1. Eagerly waiting to watch this important match of Champions League and looking forward to match my prediction with the match.

This match one such of an important match that every team needs to take serious and come I’ll prepared for a win. The condition of both teams are fair and one cannot confidently tell which team is better than the other or the one which is superior to the other one. They are both doing well in their league games as far as I know and with the way they play, it is going to be hard to dictate the team that will prevail over the other one.

I predict a draw in this match as both teams have the potential for scoring and evening the game at full time. Bayern Munich may be battling with defense issue, I don’t see this one been an hinderance for them not to win the match as they must have to resolve it before the match day. Bayern Munich are experienced in the champions league while Barcelona are in top form, so I see an equal chance for both teams in this match.
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October 09, 2024, 12:59:04 PM
If defense is still Bayern Munich's weak point, Kompany will definitely make improvements when facing Barcelona in the Champions League after the international break is over.
Barcelona is indeed in the best condition but Barcelona's victory so far is because the teams they have defeated are overall still below Bayern Munich's quality.
Visiting Barcelona's headquarters, I still don't think Bayern Munich can have high-level difficulties like the lower teams in the domestic league.

It was that mistake of defenders that cost them Aston Villa entry to win them in their last match but I see  the same mistakes again in their last domestic leagues with Frankfurt, they went goal for goal which is very poor for the team. The forward and midfield communication is very great but the defenders are very poor in making quick stiffness against there opponents, if Lewandowski and Lamal has such opportunities, they are going to squeeze Bayern Munich.

The two also looks desperate, they both has lose a match and has dropped them from the top of the table and will want to win this match. If Bayern improve on defending, they might end the match as draw but if they don't, Barcelona are going to print goals on their head but I expect goals from both teams, no way Bayern will let them go and Barcelona will do some harm too them.
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October 09, 2024, 12:48:06 PM
But indeed, it seems that a draw might be very possible to happen but at least, because Barcelona has Hansi Flick and also Lewandowski who previously had a big influence at Bayern Munich and now they play and work for Barcelona.

Predicting the draw may not be a good option because this two clubs has always not been on favour of draw matches and is been a while I saw them play draw, so is mostly very rare cases to see Bayern Munich and Barcelona play a draw match because it always end against against one side, so actually I'm only saying this based on how it has always been for them but since there has been a lot of new development on this season from the both sides your prediction could also be true because Bayern Munich will be doing a lot of management on there defense that day because they still have an unresolved issue.
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