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Quote from: iamsange on October 17, 2024, 11:37:43 PM

Quote from: mvdheuvel1983 on October 17, 2024, 05:10:22 PM

The performance of Bayer Leverkusen csn not be compared to that of their opponent when compared to the current form of the teams, you already pointed out the difference between the teams and how new they are in the champions league games which I think is one or the advantage of Bayer Leverkusen playing against them not juat that but the performance of the teams in their domestic league shows that they have little or no chance against Leverkusen. I think Leverkusen doesn't need a miracle this time they just need to stay focus be concentrate on getting better because they have a better chance of going far in the champions league this season.

In the next match for Bayer Leverkusen which they will be a guest at Brest's headquarters is something that will not be difficult for Bayer Leverkusen if the Leverkusen players still have a good enough tactic to win at their opponent's home and beat Brest as the host. I wouldn't think it would be easy, but I have no doubts about the quality of Bayer Leverkusen's players in the next match in the Champions League, because Brest's strength is certainly not quite on par with Leverkusen at the moment even though Brest will also play all out to be able to win at home.

You are right. Bayer Leverkusen are stronger than Brest obviously, even though Brest will be playing at home, and they will want to do everything possible to win against Bayer Leverkusen, but it will be something difficult for them to win against Bayer Leverkusen. Brest are not in good time either, so even if they will be playing at home, Bayer Leverkusen are going to be ahead of them regardless. As long as Bayer Leverkusen will perform the same way they are doing in the Bundesliga, I don’t think they will find it difficult to beat Brest.

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on October 17, 2024, 07:53:57 PM

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so this seasonz fans have high hopes with Slot to be able to maintain the consistency of their games in the EPL and UCL until the end of the season later.

I agree with you, and to achieve that, it is very difficult, there are teams that are very good that find it difficult to achieve that, because most of them or they do well in their leagues and badly in the UCL, or they do badly in the leagues but very well in the UCL, Madrid has been a clear example of such a thing, however we as fans know very well that Liverpool comes from very good team organization with KLOPP, so the new coach only works on that scheme and from there on he has been able to do things well, it is difficult to change everything from one moment to another, it is not that easy, in this case they are doing things very well and I like it.

I think Arne Slot is the best at handling the coaching part left by Klopp. They are currently at the top of the Premier League and have won 6 out of 7 games. This is a great success and they look like a scary team in the Champions League. I think they will win the match against Leipzig. They are a very good team. I hope they can win the Premier League this year.

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Quote from: mamesso on October 17, 2024, 10:51:45 PM

After seeing Liverpool dominate most of the matches that have been played, the fans' confidence in Slot has increased, now they are starting to put high hopes on him to bring Liverpool back to winning the EPL and competing with other favorite teams in the UCL title hunt. Liverpool are still unbeaten in the UCL after picking up two wins over Milan and Bologna, they are looking at their third straight win at Leipzig, although Leipzig are not an easy team to beat at the moment, but based on their consistency in maintaining their best performance in the last few matches, Liverpool chances of winning are very big.

Leipzig is a very strong team, but for some reason the Champions League is very difficult for them this season and so far they have not been able to score a single point. They will try to do this in the match with Liverpool, but Liverpool is also very good now to give up points so easily, and if Leipzig loses again, then 0 points after three rounds can be called a disaster, so I think that they will try with all their might to win this match at home, but so far Liverpool with Slot have lost only one match with Nottingham, and they have won all the other games.

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After seeing Liverpool dominate most of the matches that have been played, the fans' confidence in Slot has increased, now they are starting to put high hopes on him to bring Liverpool back to winning the EPL and competing with other favorite teams in the UCL title hunt. Liverpool are still unbeaten in the UCL after picking up two wins over Milan and Bologna, they are looking at their third straight win at Leipzig, although Leipzig are not an easy team to beat at the moment, but based on their consistency in maintaining their best performance in the last few matches, Liverpool chances of winning are very big.

Well, never mind... Manchester City will also show their capabilities. Maybe this season is not so bright, but there are bright times ahead. The team players also believe that they will become winners. They have every chance to win. Therefore, we will all see not only a good game from Liverpool, but also from Manchester. It seems that something should change for the better, right?

Well, there are changes that we can see from how this competition will take place, Liverpool even with their new coach can show something good, and that opens up their hopes to be able to become champions in the Premier League or even in the Champions League. Their good appearance ultimately creates an expectation for them, so they must be able to answer the expectations that come to them. So far I have not found any significant problems experienced by Liverpool, so they are still fine. What is worrying is when they have to feel something unwanted when the season is already half way through, such as a storm of injuries and others. But hopefully they can avoid that.

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Quote from: mamesso on October 17, 2024, 10:51:45 PM

After seeing Liverpool dominate most of the matches that have been played, the fans' confidence in Slot has increased, now they are starting to put high hopes on him to bring Liverpool back to winning the EPL and competing with other favorite teams in the UCL title hunt. Liverpool are still unbeaten in the UCL after picking up two wins over Milan and Bologna, they are looking at their third straight win at Leipzig, although Leipzig are not an easy team to beat at the moment, but based on their consistency in maintaining their best performance in the last few matches, Liverpool chances of winning are very big.

Well, never mind... Manchester City will also show their capabilities. Maybe this season is not so bright, but there are bright times ahead. The team players also believe that they will become winners. They have every chance to win. Therefore, we will all see not only a good game from Liverpool, but also from Manchester. It seems that something should change for the better, right?

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Quote from: mvdheuvel1983 on October 17, 2024, 05:10:22 PM

The performance of Bayer Leverkusen csn not be compared to that of their opponent when compared to the current form of the teams, you already pointed out the difference between the teams and how new they are in the champions league games which I think is one or the advantage of Bayer Leverkusen playing against them not juat that but the performance of the teams in their domestic league shows that they have little or no chance against Leverkusen. I think Leverkusen doesn't need a miracle this time they just need to stay focus be concentrate on getting better because they have a better chance of going far in the champions league this season.

In the next match for Bayer Leverkusen which they will be a guest at Brest's headquarters is something that will not be difficult for Bayer Leverkusen if the Leverkusen players still have a good enough tactic to win at their opponent's home and beat Brest as the host. I wouldn't think it would be easy, but I have no doubts about the quality of Bayer Leverkusen's players in the next match in the Champions League, because Brest's strength is certainly not quite on par with Leverkusen at the moment even though Brest will also play all out to be able to win at home.

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Quote from: mamesso on October 17, 2024, 10:51:45 PM

Quote from: Palakka on October 16, 2024, 10:30:47 AM

so this seasonz fans have high hopes with Slot to be able to maintain the consistency of their games in the EPL and UCL until the end of the season later.

After seeing Liverpool dominate most of the matches that have been played, the fans' confidence in Slot has increased, now they are starting to put high hopes on him to bring Liverpool back to winning the EPL and competing with other favorite teams in the UCL title hunt. Liverpool are still unbeaten in the UCL after picking up two wins over Milan and Bologna, they are looking at their third straight win at Leipzig, although Leipzig are not an easy team to beat at the moment, but based on their consistency in maintaining their best performance in the last few matches, Liverpool chances of winning are very big.

In UCL, Liverpool has just faced 2 matches and in the domestic league, Liverpool has only appeared 7 times and this is the reason why Arne Slot still looks very impressive giving very strong consistency to his squad. But just wait and see when Liverpool starts to play against other big teams like Madrid, I'm not sure Liverpool will perform optimally. I admit that Liverpool is currently better than last season, but this kind of performance has happened before. So I still have a little doubt that Liverpool, which I predict will not appear too far in the UCL at this time with the new system, will certainly make it difficult for the players.

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Quote from: Palakka on October 16, 2024, 10:30:47 AM

so this seasonz fans have high hopes with Slot to be able to maintain the consistency of their games in the EPL and UCL until the end of the season later.

After seeing Liverpool dominate most of the matches that have been played, the fans' confidence in Slot has increased, now they are starting to put high hopes on him to bring Liverpool back to winning the EPL and competing with other favorite teams in the UCL title hunt. Liverpool are still unbeaten in the UCL after picking up two wins over Milan and Bologna, they are looking at their third straight win at Leipzig, although Leipzig are not an easy team to beat at the moment, but based on their consistency in maintaining their best performance in the last few matches, Liverpool chances of winning are very big.

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on October 17, 2024, 07:53:57 PM

I agree with you, and to achieve that, it is very difficult, there are teams that are very good that find it difficult to achieve that, because most of them or they do well in their leagues and badly in the UCL, or they do badly in the leagues but very well in the UCL, Madrid has been a clear example of such a thing

But Madrid still play quite well in the League and also the Champions League just because he experienced 1 defeat in the Champions League many people conclude Madrid played badly in one of the prestigious matches in my opinion if you can take an example you can see Dortmund who performed well in the UCL but badly in the Bundesliga and he is currently in 8th position as a Real Madrid fan I still believe he will still perform well in the 2 tournaments this season.

Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on October 17, 2024, 07:53:57 PM

however we as fans know very well that Liverpool comes from very good team organization with KLOPP, so the new coach only works on that scheme and from there on he has been able to do things well, it is difficult to change everything from one moment to another, it is not that easy, in this case they are doing things very well and I like it.

Yes I admit Liverpool did play quite well this season in the EPL and UCL but still the struggle is still very long for Slot and if he wants to be seen like Kloop he must give his best for his team so far he has done his job well with its coaching system.

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Quote from: blue Snow on October 17, 2024, 08:32:25 PM

Yes as you mentioned, target to the final is not easy, many aspects will be faced Liverpool because all team on champions league have the same target. Liverpool have to focus and keep consistent if want dream come true. Beside that Leipzig is not weak team, even they have never won on champions league, but Liverpool must not underestimate them because when they make a small mistake on the field that advantage will take Leipzig to beat them on their home. So I think liverpool will have a hard work to winning this match because most likely Leipzig will make tight their defense, and a draw is mostly possible if liverpool lack of attack.

The UEFA Champions League is no average tournament but mainly for elite clubs. We're talking about clubs that can stand boldly and face oppositions without having to shiver or frighten. Arne Slot have improve all-round standard performance for the club, he do deserves some accolades and have been an impressive manager for the club and the fans. He's loved by all based on the incredible stats he puts out there, his future is secured at Anfield. Liverpool will do what they have to do for the purpose to move next phase of the UEFA Champions League.

Moreover there's actually no room to underestimate any oppositions because these clubs have been majorly top and will always remain tough to handled, you know the direction I'm going. Teams like RB Leipzig didn't qualified for the UEFA Champions League by mistake or luck, they worked hard and earned their points, so they're consider elite club and their opponents should apply extreme carefulness to stay fit and strong enough to face them.

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Quote from: _BlackStar on October 17, 2024, 05:20:57 PM

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Unfortunately for Leipzig, this new and far different CL version has been more than negative. At least until now. The game against Liverpool though, I doubt that it will be different for them. The Reds this season look very solid and serious with all their opponents and if they get out from serious injuries, can be a favorite to reach at least the quarter-finals.

Not just to the quarter-finals - I expect Liverpool to make it through to the final this season.
I hope Arne Slot can make this wish come true in his first season at Liverpool - but I admit it's a difficult target for him. But first - I want Liverpool to maintain this good performance by continuing to win game after game in this round. Leipzig are not particularly strong - but they can also capitalize on mistakes if Liverpool underestimate this team.

Yes as you mentioned, target to the final is not easy, many aspects will be faced Liverpool because all team on champions league have the same target. Liverpool have to focus and keep consistent if want dream come true. Beside that Leipzig is not weak team, even they have never won on champions league, but Liverpool must not underestimate them because when they make a small mistake on the field that advantage will take Leipzig to beat them on their home. So I think liverpool will have a hard work to winning this match because most likely Leipzig will make tight their defense, and a draw is mostly possible if liverpool lack of attack.

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Quote from: Palakka on October 16, 2024, 10:30:47 AM

so this seasonz fans have high hopes with Slot to be able to maintain the consistency of their games in the EPL and UCL until the end of the season later.

I agree with you, and to achieve that, it is very difficult, there are teams that are very good that find it difficult to achieve that, because most of them or they do well in their leagues and badly in the UCL, or they do badly in the leagues but very well in the UCL, Madrid has been a clear example of such a thing, however we as fans know very well that Liverpool comes from very good team organization with KLOPP, so the new coach only works on that scheme and from there on he has been able to do things well, it is difficult to change everything from one moment to another, it is not that easy, in this case they are doing things very well and I like it.

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Quote from: As-Soon-As on October 17, 2024, 06:22:03 PM

Mohamed Salah is still one of Liverpool's top performers, a prolific scorer with experience in the attacking department and intelligence and technique.
He is still quite fit for his age, so he shouldn't be out as he is still fit to play football. Being the main attacking player in Liverpool team and he is a very hardworking player, the coach of the team is still quite satisfied with him.

The opponent that Liverpool will face in the next match is an opponent that will not be easy for Liverpool so the Liverpool team will definitely play their main players including Mohamed Salah because as you said that Mohamed Salah is a player who is still very productive in terms of scoring goals and also in terms of providing passes to his teammates when there is space for it. So I also don't think that he will be absent in the next match in the Champions League because he is still very much needed in the current Liverpool squad.

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Quote from: hyudien on October 17, 2024, 06:58:15 AM

Bologna and Girona do not have as big a chance as Leverkusen in the Champions League, because in my opinion Leverkusen is on a different level in terms of quality from the two teams. Leverkusen has clarity in strategy, the point is there is a vision that can be seen when they play on the field. Girona and Bologna only performed well last season and are not necessarily able to do the same. So if you look at the probability, Girona and Bologna will be eliminated from the Champions League competition faster. Tickets in the play-offs are also not a guarantee to be able to go further.

They are a debutant club in the Champions League and it is very difficult for them to compete in a big competition like this especially with the surprise last season which is actually difficult for them to repeat this season of course Bologna and Girona are just decorations just like Union Berlin and several surprise clubs last season who became decorations in the Champions League.

But in the end I think this is a good capital for them because after all being in the Champions League is a dream and still provides benefits for them in the additional financial bonuses they get especially for clubs that are still in a standard condition from a financial point of view it is already a positive thing and the most important thing is that they get good experience by being in a big competition like this so that the results are not a significant problem but the impact given to the mentality and situation of the club will change after being in the Champions League of course.

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on October 17, 2024, 05:35:02 PM

Even if you have a strong team like Real Madrid still, you will have some problems with this team. We know Real Madrid is a good rea mad they got palyers like Mbappe and Vini jr there and this can help Real Madrid to easily get good results in the great tournaments like the Champions League but the fact about Real Madrid is Vini is not in the good form and Mbappe is still far from his good performance we saw from him before in PSG.
This can be a reason to say there is even the chance for Real Madrid to lose the title of the Champions League to another team like Inter Milan in this season.

So are you saying Vini pulled all those performance since the beginning of the season just by luck and not in his usual form Roll Eyes

. I don't know why you'll don't want to talk about what's going on with the team, from mbappe needs to adapt to not in form... I mean mbappe was not around for some games and they couldn't still get something done. They are all still playing good just as they used to apart from mbappe i noticed a slight change but he still fits to some extent,imo the team is not in some kinda good relationship with each other especially the forward and the wingers, mbappe presence should have brought more opportunities but instead it worsen which mean something isn't right with that region and I've seen some obvious scene which portraits it. I'm not being too judgy but Ancelotti needs to find a way to rotate the players from playing at the same time if possible unless they're willing to co-operate with each other... they should archieve more with their squad.

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These are some of the favorites that are worth betting on but in multi-betting it is risky as we don't know which team will surprise.

Although I won't be betting now as there are still leagues to start first so here are my options for Champions League betting.
Odds are still looking for the best option of course this is not the final.
But has anyone bet on all the 1X2 matches?

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on October 17, 2024, 05:35:02 PM

Even if you have a strong team like Real Madrid still, you will have some problems with this team. We know Real Madrid is a good rea mad they got palyers like Mbappe and Vini jr there and this can help Real Madrid to easily get good results in the great tournaments like the Champions League but the fact about Real Madrid is Vini is not in the good form and Mbappe is still far from his good performance we saw from him before in PSG.
This can be a reason to say there is even the chance for Real Madrid to lose the title of the Champions League to another team like Inter Milan in this season.

There is no team that has no problem. Sure, Real Madrid also has a problem, they still can't optimize their performance since Mbappe joined the team. In theory, Real Madrid will be stronger when they have a strong attacker like Mbappe. But in fact, Mbappe can't contribute much to help Real Madrid. He even makes Ancelotti to change some matters (tactics, formation, and lineup). Real Madrid also becomes inconsistent in some matches, they got 3 draws in La Liga and got 1 lose in UCL. This is not a good sign for Real Madrid performance this season. Even if Real Madrid is still the king of UCL, it looks like to be a hard season for Real Madrid. If there is no change in Real Madrid performance, I also favor other teams to win UCL trophy. Juventus, Dortmund, Liverpool, Leverkusen, Man City, and Inter Milan look to have a more promising chance to join the race for UCL trophy.

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But they will have to replace Salah soon. However, since Liverpool has been turned into a real powerhouse over the last seven to eight years, it is much easier to convince some of the best strikers in the world to go there. Remember that Klopp had to build him team from scratch when it was in shambles. I think this is why so many people admire Klopp. He turned Borussia Dortmund into a beast back then and he did the same with Liverpool.

Yes, it is a fact that Salah is going to be substituted, but based on what we see we take into great consideration the things that are established with the team, for me he is still performing, I know that for next season they can renew the team, however many believe that City will make the difference again, but Liverpool are playing a lot, and I also see that Lucho Diaz is doing very well, he is playing very motivated and that helps the team a lot, I think that Klopp left the foundations well established for them, for me it is very difficult that if they play with a lot of order another team can beat them.

Salah's replacement or substitution isn't going to be nay soon so i personally wouldn't want to see that as a challenge to really express fears around at this time as it may feel too early to be expressing such concerns already, his performance is still very much okay such that he isn't reflecting any form of age interfering in his abilities at the moment, and i believe they are not going to be able to start scouting the replacement already. Klop built a foundation that will last a whole long time such that managers that comes after him can consolidate long enough on such.

Mohamed Salah is still one of Liverpool's top performers, a prolific scorer with experience in the attacking department and intelligence and technique.
He is still quite fit for his age, so he shouldn't be out as he is still fit to play football. Being the main attacking player in Liverpool team and he is a very hardworking player, the coach of the team is still quite satisfied with him.

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Surprises in the champions league isn't new as it's something that happens almost often although it's on the final stages of the competition that things begin to take sharp and the usual clubs that we know are the biggest begins to win and finally lift the trophy. The last time an underdog won the trophy was when Chelsea won it against a very strong Manchester City. Since then It has always been the best teams that wins it. Dortmund tried last season but Real Madrid were just better than them and with their many years of experience and a very experienced manager, it helped them to lift the torphy, we're going to have more surprises this season but I don't think we'll get new winners.

That is the thing that made Champions League look special, because mostly toward the end of the season we always came across some upcoming teams that will came as a surprise, which some get success by luck. Although in Champions League mostly experienced teams are always at the top. Take and instance of last season no one expected Dortmund will make it to the finals, but they did, even though they didn’t win but at least they try there best. But for this season I know it will be very tough then we expect but let see how it will end.

This season it's hard for me to guess who will make it to the final, but a few favorite teams can always be identified.
Real Madrid and Manchester City are two favorite teams who can be counted on to progress from one stage to another until they reach the final, but we never know what will happen to them in the knockout stages this season.

Real Madrid has suffered 1 defeat in the group stage against Lille, while Manchester City was held to a draw by Inter in the first match. These two favorites did not get as smooth a result as expected, Bayern Munich was the same. At the top of the standings currently is Dortmund with 2 wins, while Liverpool and several other teams with the same points are in the position below. But there are still 6 matches in this round and we will find 8 of them qualify for the round of 16 and the other 16 will compete in the playoffs.

Real Madrid has a fantastic track record of scoring goals in the league, and despite some player injuries, they have consistently performed well in the Champions League. I feel Madrid or Manchester City are the top contenders to win the UCL this season. Liverpool is performing well and may win the UCL. They are currently leading the league and have a new coach who is strengthening the team effectively. Let's see what they'll do in the UCL vs Madrid if they meet.

If they can try and win Madrid I can say they can get the opportunity of winning the trophy, because Madrid is a big club and they are the best in the Champions League every season so if Liverpool can defeat madrid no one they can't win again because is real madrid is the boss in all competitions if they participated. But he won't be so easy for them to achieve the victory because Ancelotti is a great coach that is why madrid are processing every season since they have a better coach in the club.

Even if you have a strong team like Real Madrid still, you will have some problems with this team. We know Real Madrid is a good rea mad they got palyers like Mbappe and Vini jr there and this can help Real Madrid to easily get good results in the great tournaments like the Champions League but the fact about Real Madrid is Vini is not in the good form and Mbappe is still far from his good performance we saw from him before in PSG.
This can be a reason to say there is even the chance for Real Madrid to lose the title of the Champions League to another team like Inter Milan in this season.

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Unfortunately for Leipzig, this new and far different CL version has been more than negative. At least until now. The game against Liverpool though, I doubt that it will be different for them. The Reds this season look very solid and serious with all their opponents and if they get out from serious injuries, can be a favorite to reach at least the quarter-finals.

Not just to the quarter-finals - I expect Liverpool to make it through to the final this season.
I hope Arne Slot can make this wish come true in his first season at Liverpool - but I admit it's a difficult target for him. But first - I want Liverpool to maintain this good performance by continuing to win game after game in this round. Leipzig are not particularly strong - but they can also capitalize on mistakes if Liverpool underestimate this team.

The 6 teams that Liverpool will face in the next 6 matches are: Leipzig, Leverkusen, Real Madrid, Girona, Lille and PSV. So far I only think Real Madrid is stronger than Liverpool - I can still hope Liverpool can beat the others.

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