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August 31, 2024, 07:33:04 AM
The fact that we are going to see teams from the same pot playing each other too, means that there will be some big games on the season as well and that's a good thing, I really like that situation and could make a good result out of this because betting is a lot better this way.

Plus, instead of betting on six games, now we are going to bet on eight games and that's the important part, I am sure that it will be a good one and we are going to benefit from this very much so. I know that a lot of people still doubt Real Madrid because of how bad they started the season, but I am sure that they are still the leading candidate, City and Madrid are always the leading candidates, it is going to be either one of those teams, and if it is not and if some other team wins it then it is going to be a big shock and I would very much find that entertaining but also annoying from betting perspective as well. Lets see how it will go on, it should be a fine season to watch.
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August 31, 2024, 06:51:27 AM
Over time, this new format will become commonplace and everyone will get used to watching their favorite team play 12 matches if they qualify for the final. This is especially fun for big games, but games involving non-favorite teams are likely to be missed.
I think the matches to be played are more than 12. The draw and grouping matches will be 12 while for teams that were able to qualify to the round of 16, the normal process of elimination will be in place. These new format is just to kill the idea of playing each teams home and away which is very ok because some teams are taking advantage of their home stadium and some referees do also give home advantages. Moreover, this new format will give the title to the best team because squad depth will be a key component in the competition because all the teams will also be playing their domestic leagues and the Champions League.

Do you mean that this new format they won’t be playing against each other in their home stadium? Just like the home and away matches they use to play? If that’s it, how comes the matches to be played are up to 12 in the first round of the game even when they have been grouped. How many are they grouped in order to get the total number of matches to be played. I’m kind of confused more on this, it needs clarification. When the new format begins, we will all get to know how the format is going to be for all and get use to them overtime.
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August 31, 2024, 06:42:33 AM
A strong team and with a squad depth of substitute players owned by a particular team will be very important because the large number of games will give the team the opportunity to rotate. The problem is that the Champions League is not the only competition that is followed and if a player gets injured and there are no good substitutes it will affect the results. That is why teams that have top players and have good substitutes will have their own advantages.
I think it all depends on whether or not the players in the team are injured besides the better substitutes when the team rotates. Because from the new format it has been seen that each team does need to keep their players fit and not injured so that they can play well and not make the team's performance decline due to fatigue and injury. There are indeed several teams that have good squad depth in the Champions League this season, but I think every team should not be underestimated as long as the match is in the Champions League because all abilities will always be poured out here.
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August 31, 2024, 06:36:21 AM
Arsenal consistently lacks the extra bit of winning mentality. The very core essential a champion club needs, that is what we have seen from them two seasons in a row, where they lost the league title to Manchester City.

Last year in UCL, they were pretty decent but went out in the knockouts without making it too far. I think they can't blame their team quality anymore, as they have good players all over the pitch after recent transfers. They also have very good squad depth in all areas of the pitch, bar the forward.
It is not like math but Arsenal need to win Premier League before they are able to win Champions League. Winning Champions League is harder than winning Premier League and Arsenal must achieve an easier thing first, that is winning Premier League. There is chance to win Champions League for them, even they did not win Premier League, but it's small.

Winning Premier League will help their players experience feeling of a champion and on top, that can help to increase their mentality and play better in Champions League against other champions from other leagues.

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They tried hard to find a striker/LW, but they were unable to do so, but apart from that, what a team they got. Quality wise, definitely top 3 in the Premier League.
Rumor is they are trying to bring Osimhem from Napoli to their club but there is very limited time left for them to complete this transfer. If they can not have Osimhen, they will continue this season without a world class striker.
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August 31, 2024, 06:11:19 AM
the champions league brings together the best teams in their respective domestic leagues, therefore arsenal must fight to bring out their full strength if they want to achieve success in this year's champions. we see in the two seasons in the EPL arteta's team has improved and made them a candidate for the premier champion but has always been taken by man city, most people think arsenal does not have a champion mentality and i agree with that arsenal must have it if they want to be a respected club in the champions league. this season they have the opportunity to prove it all and honestly i hope arsenal can surprise us all in the champions league.

I honestly feel for the Arsenal club and always wonder why they are always failing to take the Champions league even at periods they could have taken it, they in fact become weaker in their performance. Mikel Arteta seems to be a steady manager for the club and could soon be seen with the respect given to Sir Arsene Winger if he can surprise us and cast out the spell that always stop Arsenal from taking the Champions league. Unlike in the past, the competition have increased as many small clubs are now taking a new shape to be stronger and thicker for bigger challenges. It could be even tougher this season for Arsenal but not as much if they could strategize themselves properly.

I saw last season of EPL as a swift move to take the championship because Guardiola is always strategic in his approach to games and scenarios. Arsenal made slight mistakes who cost them big lost last season, one of which was their lost to Aston Villa. Coincidentally they've met again this season and Arsenal already lashed them two to none. I hope the evil spirit that always hunts Arsenal's chances to take the Champions league trophy doesn't catch up with them this tournament. Lol.

Arsenal consistently lacks the extra bit of winning mentality. The very core essential a champion club needs, that is what we have seen from them two seasons in a row, where they lost the league title to Manchester City.

Last year in UCL, they were pretty decent but went out in the knockouts without making it too far. I think they can't blame their team quality anymore, as they have good players all over the pitch after recent transfers. They also have very good squad depth in all areas of the pitch, bar the forward.

They tried hard to find a striker/LW, but they were unable to do so, but apart from that, what a team they got. Quality wise, definitely top 3 in the Premier League.

But if they want to win trophies, their mentality has to come a long way, as they tend to lose their nerve when they have to learn to control games as they wish in the long term. In both of the last two seasons, they had flying starts, but as time went by, the grip on those games got a bit worse.
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August 31, 2024, 05:56:54 AM
After a long absence in the UCL last season, Arsenal reached the quarter-finals. Meraka lost narrowly to Munich 0-1. This season I think they have better players. They should be able to compete and be better than last season. The management's trust in Arteta has brought improvement. Aretata is given a lot of money to spend, I think they are a team that has a chance to enter the semifinals this season.

Arteta certainly learned from the mistakes of 2 seasons. Furthermore, if Arteta fails, Arsenal should also give a warning, because Arteta has been with Arsenal for quite a long time and Arteta's transfer policy always has management support.
Arsenal's performance this season will be better than last season when they give more importance to the Champions League tournament. I think if they have to change the Premier League competition plan a little while giving more importance to the Champions League tournament then they should because it's been a long time since they won the Champions League title. The big teams that are in the Champions League will not be Arsenal's opponents beforehand, so it is possible to win against the relatively small teams if they play according to the right plan. If the top five teams for the Champions League were to be made, Arsenal's name would be there, but Arsenal would have to perform better.
Arsenal have experienced a tremendous improvement in their squad so we can count on them in the Premier League as title contenders, while in the Champions League, of course after the 2005/06 season we no longer see any proud achievements for Arsenal in the Champions League so far, Arsenal have been a team that has consistently ended the season in the top 4 of the Premier League and continues to be able to qualify for the Champions League, But so far I see that their qualification to the Champions League is nothing more than as a team that complemented the previous 32 clubs, last season Arsenal had a pretty good performance and even they were able to put up a tough fight against Manchester City in the domestic league but what we saw in the Champions League last season was the opposite of their performance in the premier league,  Many people predict that their will go far in the Champions League, especially at that time their opponent is Munich who has a pretty bad performance in the league but in fact we can see that Arsenal mentality in the Champions League is still very small, so it makes me doubt if this season they can be surprise us in the Champions League.

The drawing of the Champions League today has started and for those of you who want to see it live can be through the UEFA streaming site:  UEFA STREAMING


Arsenal have made changes to the squad but not significant changes. Almost 20 years have passed since we saw them win the Champions League title in the 2005/6 season and in those 20 years their achievements in the Champions League have been almost nil. This generation of them definitely wants a Champions League trophy. A new season of Champions League will start very soon and there are high expectations for Arsenal but like every time I think Arsenal will focus only on Premier League they will not focus much on Champions League. As many times they have come very close to winning the Premier League title and lost, they have to give more importance to the Premier League tournament as well as the Champions League tournament, although it will be difficult for them but they should do it.
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August 31, 2024, 04:33:14 AM
I think maybe the most troublesome opponent later will be Inter and as we remember, the two last met in the 2023 Champions League final and this will be proof again who is the strongest. In addition, maybe Juventus is also worth considering, especially under Thiago Motta's guidance, they are starting to show promise. I forgot PSG because they are not a strong enough opponent for Manchester City.

Manchester City is very lucky with the kind of matches they will be having both the champions League and premier League, however the good thing about it is that wining all those matches will give them the chance of moving very higher on the champions League but however among those matches the only two matches that would give them a tough time should be the Inter Milan and PSG because they are the only two clubs that seem stronger than the remaining clubs but still I believe that Manchester City will possibly emerge as the winner on those matches because PSG is not that strong to win Manchester City considering the level of experience strikers like Kelvin de Bruyne, haaland, foden, Jeremy Doku and so many others have.

However if there is any club that can possibly hold Manchester City among the two I think Inter Milan should be the one because they have proven to be reliable on this season but Pep Guardiola will not allow anything to stop them from wining those matches and also another club that would have tried is Juventus but there constant depreciation in performance has removed them from competing with clubs like Manchester City.
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August 31, 2024, 04:06:38 AM
It will take time to get used to the new format. Most people could not understand the logic of the new format. More competitive and different matches will be waiting for us now. No one will be able to say that we will win the match at our home field like in the past, every match will be very valuable and we will be able to see the home advantage very clearly especially in the matches between strong teams and weak teams.
I hope it will be more entertaining this way, we can see results that will be worth the change of the system that has been the same for years
The new format is in Swiss type and it's a first time it is applied in Champions League. I don't understand it even I did not spend much time reading about it as with time and matches, practically observe Champions League can help me gradually understand it better. There will surely many discussions on this new format a long this season that can help me as well.

In my opinion, this new format destroys a balance of home and home away matches. It can be unfair for some clubs if draw results are not good for them with given opponents in home and home away matches. Maybe this format won't last too long if it gets too many complains in coming months and years. Like golden goal was canceled after a first tournament with this rule in France 98.
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August 31, 2024, 03:31:20 AM
I think the matches to be played are more than 12. The draw and grouping matches will be 12 while for teams that were able to qualify to the round of 16, the normal process of elimination will be in place. These new format is just to kill the idea of playing each teams home and away which is very ok because some teams are taking advantage of their home stadium and some referees do also give home advantages. Moreover, this new format will give the title to the best team because squad depth will be a key component in the competition because all the teams will also be playing their domestic leagues and the Champions League.
A strong team and with a squad depth of substitute players owned by a particular team will be very important because the large number of games will give the team the opportunity to rotate. The problem is that the Champions League is not the only competition that is followed and if a player gets injured and there are no good substitutes it will affect the results. That is why teams that have top players and have good substitutes will have their own advantages.

A new format like this is difficult at first but over time you will get used to it and most teams will have to follow the rules. Let's see how the rule will work, whether it will affect strong teams or will it actually benefit them greatly when facing competition.

It will take time to get used to the new format. Most people could not understand the logic of the new format. More competitive and different matches will be waiting for us now. No one will be able to say that we will win the match at our home field like in the past, every match will be very valuable and we will be able to see the home advantage very clearly especially in the matches between strong teams and weak teams.
I hope it will be more entertaining this way, we can see results that will be worth the change of the system that has been the same for years
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August 31, 2024, 02:07:58 AM
Okay now let's see who Manchester City's opponents are in the league format later and as it turns out, Pep Guardiola's squad will face relatively easy opponents again. Grin

It's no wonder that The Citizen will qualify so easily and whether it's a home or away game, it won't be difficult for them at all. Pep Guardiola's strategy, which is famous for its ball possession, will certainly be very difficult to stop, especially since short passes and tight pressing are also part of it.
It's can be easy opponents and matches in first phase but the importance is when Manchester City go to further phases with knock out format, what opponents will be. To win Champions League, a champion must beat most of strongest teams in Europe but let's say it more deeply. Most of strongest opponents but not all strongest opponents in Europe, and if Manchester City can avoid as many strongest teams as possible in their way to a final match, it's better.

Your post looks to be a troll on why Manchester City got easy journeys in Champions League recent seasons. Something like manipulation from UEFA in their draws recent years but it's conspiracy theory, and so far without leaked information, with what we had, no way to prove this theory is true.

Overviews on their matches in league phase are like this for teams in Pot 1, Pot 2, Pot 3 and Pot 4. Source is from UEFA



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August 31, 2024, 12:45:52 AM
Okay now let's see who Manchester City's opponents are in the league format later and as it turns out, Pep Guardiola's squad will face relatively easy opponents again. Grin

It's no wonder that The Citizen will qualify so easily and whether it's a home or away game, it won't be difficult for them at all. Pep Guardiola's strategy, which is famous for its ball possession, will certainly be very difficult to stop, especially since short passes and tight pressing are also part of it.

I think maybe the most troublesome opponent later will be Inter and as we remember, the two last met in the 2023 Champions League final and this will be proof again who is the strongest. In addition, maybe Juventus is also worth considering, especially under Thiago Motta's guidance, they are starting to show promise. I forgot PSG because they are not a strong enough opponent for Manchester City.

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August 31, 2024, 12:27:16 AM
I think the matches to be played are more than 12. The draw and grouping matches will be 12 while for teams that were able to qualify to the round of 16, the normal process of elimination will be in place. These new format is just to kill the idea of playing each teams home and away which is very ok because some teams are taking advantage of their home stadium and some referees do also give home advantages. Moreover, this new format will give the title to the best team because squad depth will be a key component in the competition because all the teams will also be playing their domestic leagues and the Champions League.
A strong team and with a squad depth of substitute players owned by a particular team will be very important because the large number of games will give the team the opportunity to rotate. The problem is that the Champions League is not the only competition that is followed and if a player gets injured and there are no good substitutes it will affect the results. That is why teams that have top players and have good substitutes will have their own advantages.

A new format like this is difficult at first but over time you will get used to it and most teams will have to follow the rules. Let's see how the rule will work, whether it will affect strong teams or will it actually benefit them greatly when facing competition.
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August 30, 2024, 10:13:54 PM

Teams need to adapt to new format even if it is complicated. Group stage now has 8 games instead of 6 which is good change. Some teams like Celtic and Leipzig got lucky or unlucky with their schedule. To move forward teams need to get at least 7.6 points so winning at home and drawing is important. But extra games and rounds might be tiring for teams. We will have to wait and see if this new format works well or not but it is definitely an interesting try that will keep us interested.

I also agree that this means we'll have more football, therefore there are more bets, we also have to understand that sometimes new things can Affect us , and that's normal , but I'm sure that this Year, as they are doing it , will be a period of acceptance and getting used to how it will be now, both for us as fans and also for the Teams that are the ones that live the experience more thoroughly , however , it is more exhausting for the players because there are more games, so it may also affect them in their local leagues, but well, it's a matter of raising the level and that we could all have a better experience , I am delighted with these Changes, really.
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August 30, 2024, 04:16:44 PM
Regardless of the new or old format, this certainly makes all teams have to maximize opportunities and minimize 1 match not to lose. What is clear is that the schedule is getting tighter, all players will be drained of energy. The slightest injury can have a big impact on the club's status for the next match.
Squad depth and quality will be a key factor in this new format of the competition because to avoid the tired legs and fatigue of players, coaches will need to involve in massive team rotation, and in this category is where teams like real Madrid, Barcelona and Manchester city that have very good squad depth and quality players both on and off to pitch will thrive. The competition will be more competitive this time around and all coaches will be gearing up for it already.

The new format will be of good advantage to the player off the pitch, but this might be a problem for teams with poor squad depth and less quality players off the pitch, thereby giving opportunities to teams with good squad depth and quality players like Real Madrid, Barcelona, and Manchester City, making them dominate and win more trophies. So I think this new format will not be of favor to teams with less quality players off the pitch and will be of great favor to the teams with good quality players off the pitch. So it will be interesting to see how the teams with less quality players overcome this problem and be able to strive in their games.
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August 30, 2024, 04:07:50 PM
Over time, this new format will become commonplace and everyone will get used to watching their favorite team play 12 matches if they qualify for the final. This is especially fun for big games, but games involving non-favorite teams are likely to be missed.
I think the matches to be played are more than 12. The draw and grouping matches will be 12 while for teams that were able to qualify to the round of 16, the normal process of elimination will be in place. These new format is just to kill the idea of playing each teams home and away which is very ok because some teams are taking advantage of their home stadium and some referees do also give home advantages. Moreover, this new format will give the title to the best team because squad depth will be a key component in the competition because all the teams will also be playing their domestic leagues and the Champions League.
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August 30, 2024, 03:57:06 PM
Sure. I just feel like Ancelloti knows very well that every team, both big and small, will be ready for this season, and that is why he quickly took some necessary action to make Real Madrid stronger. Clubs have started showing how good and strong they will be performing in this season. I feel like even the big teams we are expecting to easily top the league will find it challenging to do that this time.

Moreover, at first I was expecting Real Madrid to be at the top of the league at a very early stage of the season, but I’m still yet to see their pro6gress this season. 
Progress can be accomplished only when a club unites and play collective pattern of football, having everything within their possession and exploring opportunities that would bring in improvement and titles. The archives of clubs shouldn't be under
Real Madrid have amazing players in the club and there are few that are injured. Los Blancos just have to do what they think is right because winning is compulsory for an elite club like Real Madrid.

Expecting an elite club like Real Madrid to be topping the La Liga table this season, remember the odds are likely to be small regarding the outstanding performance and game stats of other clubs, like Barcelona and Atletico Madrid. Real Madrid players have to really worked on themselves and besides, Carlo Ancelotti needs to make appropriate changes inother to correct the wrong dimensional movement of the club's patterns.
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August 30, 2024, 03:45:24 PM
Regardless of the new or old format, this certainly makes all teams have to maximize opportunities and minimize 1 match not to lose. What is clear is that the schedule is getting tighter, all players will be drained of energy. The slightest injury can have a big impact on the club's status for the next match.
Squad depth and quality will be a key factor in this new format of the competition because to avoid the tired legs and fatigue of players, coaches will need to involve in massive team rotation, and in this category is where teams like real Madrid, Barcelona and Manchester city that have very good squad depth and quality players both on and off to pitch will thrive. The competition will be more competitive this time around and all coaches will be gearing up for it already.
Usually in few things these big clubs always having good advantage because they are having enough players to settle for replacements, and they can give their first choice players rest which bring good depth in their performance their rotation is also always works for them because with this all players are able to have good playing time which bring good results and this is also always good for their check and balance when they can bring which player for having good performance.

Average clubs are usually having troubling time because once they lost one or two players due to injury they are having things from bad to worse and things are never been easy to have positive change for them just because of problems like these we have terrible end of many clubs in their leagues.
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August 30, 2024, 02:46:55 PM
Obviously Lille won in the end, this match was easy to predict, it's no coincidence that the bookmakers obviously gave Lille the win. I included this game in a multiple just to increase the multiplier a little. Unfortunately I thought they would win away from home too, it was very close if you want, 2-1 and Lille risked winning again.
To be fair Prague played as good as they possibly could, and even won the game itself, and they lost only because of the aggregate, which is why Lille will be going to UCL instead. Which is good for France but also bad, good because having a team at UCL is a good thing, but also bad because they will probably lose a lot, they are not good enough to beat many teams, which is bad for their national co-efficiency, if Lille was at Europa they would have won a lot more, and it would have bene good for their co-effiency instead.

That's the good and bad side of UCL entry, you end up making so much more money, just being in the group stages of UCL could give you more money than going to finals at Europa, so money is more important and everyone wants to be there, but then you lose a bunch of games and that's a bad thing for morale and for the nation and for the club as well. I would still prefer UCL though, who could say no to that much money in the end, football requires a lot of money.
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August 30, 2024, 02:34:10 PM
That is why this season teams with good squad depth will benefit because they will be able to rotate and maintain their performance. With the new format of UCL this season, the match schedule will be even denser, especially for clubs from England. This will make players vulnerable to injury and fatigue, making it difficult to show their best performance. Player rotation will be a very important thing that can determine the course of the match.
Player rotation is indeed important for every team, but the coaches of big teams such as the coaches of teams in the Premier League and also in the Spanish League must have prepared to welcome the new format this season so that they will continue to do their best even though it will be a bit different from last season because now each team must be able to adjust to a different format. But the big teams that already have strength through their mainstay players will still be good teams because they will not be weak just because of the new format this season.

Exactly, this new format will still favour the big teams and the smaller teams won’t be able to achieve from this format. Players in big team are already built through vigorous training, so going through the long process of the champions league won’t be too much on them, they can play long and can also easily rotate their players with competent players still on bench to take on when the main players are out tired or injured or fatigued. Many teams are already preparing for this and it’s good they started early so that they can get to adopt easily to the new format. This is going to be an interesting champions league, the one that we haven’t experienced before.
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August 30, 2024, 02:25:55 PM
Just like what Real Madrid did in this summer to brought in some good players that will add value to the team in this tournament, because their coach understand the system very well but there are some coaches that will feel comfortable with their old players without signing in new players just because they have won the trophy and they can still use the old players win this trophy. I have seen some signs early this season about some small teams that will surprise people in this tournament, because their coach has worked on them to challenge some strong teams like Manchester city, Arsenal, Real Madrid and Liverpool in this tournament.

With what happened to Real Madrid yesterday to draw the game with their opponent 1:1, it will make this UEFA champion league hard for them to win in this season.

Sure. I just feel like Ancelloti knows very well that every team, both big and small, will be ready for this season, and that is why he quickly took some necessary action to make Real Madrid stronger. Clubs have started showing how good and strong they will be performing in this season. I feel like even the big teams we are expecting to easily top the league will find it challenging to do that this time.

Moreover, at first I was expecting Real Madrid to be at the top of the league at a very early stage of the season, but I’m still yet to see their progress this season. 
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