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June 16, 2024, 08:14:22 AM
Netherlands vs Poland
Group D seems to be the group of death with France, Poland, Netherlands and Austria. France surely is the favorite here while it's important for Netherlands and Poland to get as many points as possible and this first match between them could be decisive. Austria looks the lose brick but they can surprise anyone. 14 minutes in Netherlands seems to be more in control and attacking while Poland is in defense. As there are no goals yet and the game too early, this could turn to any side any moment.
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June 16, 2024, 08:03:51 AM
Any idea how Leverkusen is going to perform in the Champions League competition? 

I actually want to see Leverkusen from well in the Champions League competition. For some reason, I also want to see a final between Real Madrid and Leverkusen. I think because I want to see how great coaches, Alonso and Ancelotti does against each other. I understand that this is not a good comparison and probably there is a very high chance that Real Madrid is actually going to win very easily. Because of the track record that they have in the Champions League. But it will still be something to watch. The expectation is really high from Leverkusen. I hope they will be able to deliver properly on that.

Nothing more than the round of sixteen, immediately after the group stage games. That's whwtbi expect from them.

We should have seen that finals in the next couple of months ( August ) but, Bayern Leverkusen had some difficulties beating Atalanta in the finals of the European Europa League Competition.

I expect them to also dominate their group and come out as the best, I mean finishing strong at the top, but nothing more than the knock out stage believe, they should rather surprise me than for be to set my hopes high and they fail me completely. I love Xabi Alonso, I want to see him rise to the level of other top managers but I don't know if he can do it back to back for Bayern Leverkusen same way he did last season.

Anyways, we should all anticipate the Super Cup Competition Finals between ( Real Madrid ) and Atalanta. Another trophy for Carlo Ancellotti and his lads then.
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June 16, 2024, 05:03:30 AM
Do you think Atletico can perform well next season? considering they are finalists who have never lifted this trophy. I think Simione is still trusted to handle Atletico and it seems like he has dedicated his life only to Atletico. Unfortunately he has never led this team to win a title even though he has often been in the final round.

This should be an important lesson for Atletico to be able to achieve their goals and see the depth of their current squad, in fact they can still compete but of course it will not be easy to reach the final round again. Moreover, currently every strong team always upgrades its squad little by little every season and here Atletico is quite behind. But I am still quite optimistic that they can provide fierce competition and not, as we thought, this season, they will be eliminated quickly in the quarter-finals.
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June 16, 2024, 04:40:48 AM
Here are the winning chance of each team to become a champion in the next season:

60% for Real Madrid
39% for Manchester City
1% for Arsenal, Inter, Milan, Barcelona, PSG, Bayern Munich, Leverkusen etc. Tongue

Real Madrid without Mbappe can still become a champion in this season, so it's no doubt majority of people will believe in Real Madrid.

Yeah it really seems like a joke. Real Madrid is not too strong, they were so lucky on semifinal with Bayern on Madrid (especially on 1-1 goal).
Manchester City? Good on a paper but pitch says something different.
1% for all teams in the world excluding 2 overhyped teams? Really?

The statistics looks ridiculous but that doesn’t mean his statistics is wrong. He did it base on current times and what each of the team are playing and we can all see for ourselves. Until next season begins and we see what it looks like before we can now start making predictions on which team will do better than the other, as of now, Real Madrid still remains the favourites after signing Mbappe and Manchester coming second most likelihood to win the Champions League after Real Madrid. All other clubs will definitely fall within the 1% unless we see a different performance from them when season begins. We want to see a more competitive season than the last one, so every club needs to be at their best to deliver the best to make the competition more enjoyable to follow.

I'm not saying that these teams are not favorites on paper, especially since Mbappe joined Real. However, Manchester City does not look so good with strong teams. So I think he may be right about the Champions League favorites, but the percentage breakdown is a complete joke. I don't know if you know how much 1% is, but it's almost nothing. If the bookmaker was guided by his percentage breakdown, the odds for all other teams to win except these two would be around 100. To be honest, I would bet quite a lot on it. The division of, for example, 50%, 30% and 20% into the rest would look completely different. However, real football is not a computer game and here one player will not win the trophy. If Mbappe couldn't even reach the final, and he lost many times in the earlier stages - why is he so sure that he will suddenly win the trophy in a new environment? The fact that Real has recently won this trophy does not mean that now it will be time for another team and it will dominate in the coming seasons. There are many strong teams that can really play good football, so betting only on 2 I think is a mistake, but we will see next season.
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June 16, 2024, 04:39:35 AM
Jude Bellingham place in the madrid team is not in contest. When Ancelotti moved him close to goal was because of inavailability of a striker and injury of Vini Junior. When Vinicius Junior came back, he reverted to playing Bellingham in his normal position

There will not be position issues in Real Madrid, the problem will be on supremecy, who will the team be built around. It will be unfair if they deny Vinicius his time to reign and favour Mbappe.
To hold that role, in my opinion, Real Madrid still has players who can hold it, one of which is Luca Modric. He still has the chance to stay at Real Madrid next season, although he will make a decision after EURO. But it does give hope that he may still be in the Real Madrid squad next season.

In my opinion, giving that role to Mbappe is too early, he is a player who just joined Real Madrid at the end of this season, and I think there are still many players who can play that role.

In my opinion, Vinicius can't hold that role yet, so Ancelotti has to choose another player, it could be in defense or something else. However, it is better for them to prioritize the interests of the team, because when they can mature with each other or understand their respective roles, then they will not depend on the instructions of just one player, they will be able to be more flexible in doing so.
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June 16, 2024, 12:35:04 AM
Here are the winning chance of each team to become a champion in the next season:

60% for Real Madrid
39% for Manchester City
1% for Arsenal, Inter, Milan, Barcelona, PSG, Bayern Munich, Leverkusen etc. Tongue

Real Madrid without Mbappe can still become a champion in this season, so it's no doubt majority of people will believe in Real Madrid.

Yeah it really seems like a joke. Real Madrid is not too strong, they were so lucky on semifinal with Bayern on Madrid (especially on 1-1 goal).
Manchester City? Good on a paper but pitch says something different.
1% for all teams in the world excluding 2 overhyped teams? Really?

The statistics looks ridiculous but that doesn’t mean his statistics is wrong. He did it base on current times and what each of the team are playing and we can all see for ourselves. Until next season begins and we see what it looks like before we can now start making predictions on which team will do better than the other, as of now, Real Madrid still remains the favourites after signing Mbappe and Manchester coming second most likelihood to win the Champions League after Real Madrid. All other clubs will definitely fall within the 1% unless we see a different performance from them when season begins. We want to see a more competitive season than the last one, so every club needs to be at their best to deliver the best to make the competition more enjoyable to follow.
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June 16, 2024, 12:27:34 AM
Knowing that the champions league is not that simple like domestic leagues, especially Bayer Leverkusen, this is their first time playing in the champions league, and due to their incredible performance of the last season, they have potential and higher expectations, so it will not be a simple run for Bayer Leverkusen because they are not only playing in the champions league next season but also learning how to maintain their performance and increase their effort to play something tangible in the league. 

Although if you are to consider the fact of their performance, you will see that Bayer Leverkusen will be able to overcome all the tough challenges and have the courage and confidence to face any other team. Know that the Champions League is a game of winners, and the best way to find the best amount for them Beyer leverkusen will need a higher amount of confidence to do something tangible in the league. 

Of course Leverkusen will again show the quality of their game, even though they will face big and strong teams, of course they will try their best to be the best of the best, even though it is unlikely that they will be able to dominate the Champions League, but with their achievements this is enough good because they have been able to be in the Champions League for the first time and of course this is a very good achievement for them. They have to be able to face big and strong teams in attack, where they will experience the pressure put on them by other big teams which might make them surprised and overwhelmed.

Leverkusen's chances are not that big, because they are still not strong enough to dominate the Champions League, what's more, there is a big team that is indeed the king of champions in the Champions League and of course it is not easy for them to beat. but maybe Leverkusen will surprise them with what they have done before, even though the chance is very small, because competition in the Champions League will of course be much different from competition in the domestic league.
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June 15, 2024, 11:06:33 PM
Atalanta together with Bayern Leverkusen will play in the Champions League but I don’t think they will both go far in the league since they’re lesser teams compare to other teams that will be playing in that competition. They can try their best, but I don’t see them even reaching the quarter finals or exiting pass the quarter finals of the competition. In this stages, the game would have been filtered to the most experienced and best teams which I don’t think they’ll fall in that last eight categories or will escape from that stage if they do.
The Champions League is filled with representative clubs from other leagues, in contrast to the European League which is still filled with mid-table clubs who appear impressive, while the Champions League is filled with experienced top-flight clubs and usually they always dominate the top 3 in their respective leagues so that every clubs competing in the Champions League will do their best and their strength cannot be underestimated. I also doubt Leverkusen and Atalanta whether they can match the level of experienced candidates in the Champions League because this club looks like it will be the underdog club in the Champions League next season.

Even though Xabi Alonso has made Leverkusen unbeatable in the Bundesliga and beat Bayern Munich, and Atalanta can beat Leverkusen who have not yet tasted defeat. This is not a guarantee that next season will have the same performance because every club will definitely try to improve their performance, especially when the Champions League is dominated with experienced clubs, they need a strong mentality and experience to be able to perform well in the Champions League, a big competition in Europe, so if Leverkusen and Atalanta want to appear successful there, at least they have players who are experienced and have a strong mentality.
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June 15, 2024, 06:53:01 PM
With the arrival of Mbappe, it is certain that a new strategy will be needed in the team. In fact, Mbappe and Bellingham can play in harmony with each other, if they are placed on the field correctly, Real Madrid will have no problems scoring goals next season. But these two players need to be compatible with each other, if they cannot achieve this, there may be some confusion Smiley
Of course, there strategy will be different from the season 2023-2024 when there is no strong striker in the attacking line of Real Madrid. In the season 2023-2024, Vinicius and Rodrygo are 2 players in the front line of Real Madrid, they are supported by Bellingham. The formation in the last season was 4-3-1-2. In the next season, the formation will return to be 4-3-3. Mabppe will be put on the striker position, meanwhile Vinicius and Rodrygo will play as wingers. Bellingham will return to his best position (center midfielder). I guess Real Madrid will use Camavinga-Valverde-Bellingham in the midfield line, meanwhile Vinicius-Rodrygo-Mbappe for the attackers. I think this will be a good formation, there is no confusion here. All the players will play in their best positions.  Wink



This lineup or formation will be complete if Davies successfully joins Real Madrid.  Grin

Source: https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/28281663/how-real-madrid-line-up-kylian-mbappe-transfer/


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June 15, 2024, 06:40:22 PM

Let us remember that the format of the new Champions League has been changed, passing the first phase of the league would seem to be easier, if I am not mistaken out of 36 teams in the standings 24 go through to the next phase, the top 8 instead qualify directly to the round of 16, the other 16 instead compete in a playoff. So both Atalanta and Leverkusen may have a chance to go far in this new Champions League.
The UEFA Champions League have made quite important changes which I believe will affects the setting of the game fixture and the sectioned rounds. The UEFA Champions League title is simply one of the toughest tournaments in the football world Europe. It comes with amazing ideas and we've watched how everything have played out. Everything changing and the qualifying clubs will swiftly become straight.
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June 15, 2024, 04:56:38 PM
Atalanta together with Bayern Leverkusen will play in the Champions League but I don’t think they will both go far in the league since they’re lesser teams compare to other teams that will be playing in that competition. They can try their best, but I don’t see them even reaching the quarter finals or exiting pass the quarter finals of the competition. In this stages, the game would have been filtered to the most experienced and best teams which I don’t think they’ll fall in that last eight categories or will escape from that stage if they do.
Experience they say is the best teacher, Borrusia Dortmund and Bayer Leverkusen lost in the major finals and this is unbelievable. There's basically top categories of these clubs that will be fighting for the top titles. The UEFA Champions League was the main target for most of these outstanding clubs but there's always something big coming. Atalanta and Bayer Leverkusen gave us a hard game to watch which also stirs up the rising motion.


Let us remember that the format of the new Champions League has been changed, passing the first phase of the league would seem to be easier, if I am not mistaken out of 36 teams in the standings 24 go through to the next phase, the top 8 instead qualify directly to the round of 16, the other 16 instead compete in a playoff. So both Atalanta and Leverkusen may have a chance to go far in this new Champions League.
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June 15, 2024, 04:51:48 PM
Atalanta together with Bayern Leverkusen will play in the Champions League but I don’t think they will both go far in the league since they’re lesser teams compare to other teams that will be playing in that competition. They can try their best, but I don’t see them even reaching the quarter finals or exiting pass the quarter finals of the competition. In this stages, the game would have been filtered to the most experienced and best teams which I don’t think they’ll fall in that last eight categories or will escape from that stage if they do.
Experience they say is the best teacher, Borrusia Dortmund and Bayer Leverkusen lost in the major finals and this is unbelievable. There's basically top categories of these clubs that will be fighting for the top titles. The UEFA Champions League was the main target for most of these outstanding clubs but there's always something big coming. Atalanta and Bayer Leverkusen gave us a hard game to watch which also stirs up the rising motion.
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June 15, 2024, 04:46:17 PM


I agree with you on that, because Mbappé can arrive in a very capricious way to a Madrid where basically he can't and shouldn't do things the way he wants, Madrid is not PSG and that was one of the reasons why they didn't want Mbappé to come to Madrid and I think that here the one who is going to make the difference without a doubt is going to be Ancelotti, because above all he is a gentleman who must be respected, everyone at Madrid respects him and knows that he is more than a coach, he is like a father to them, when he found out that Kross was leaving, Carletto cried, so Ancelotti is more than a coach to them, that's why I don't think that Mbappé will arrive with that emphasis of wanting to do whatever he wants.



Basically, Mbappe will not be able to do as he pleases, a bit like he did when he was at Paris saint Germain, in PSG he was the top player pampered by everyone and had no major rivals in his role, at Real Madrid he will become one of many top players and the starting place is by no means assured. So he better be respectful of the locker room hierarchies
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June 15, 2024, 04:35:38 PM
Any team will have to work hard to win titles this season, because Real Madrid got a star very young. The striker is greatly needed in midfield, but will now face massive competition to tackle the situation as Manchester City face off. But the Arsenal team will not be able to resist these two teams in any way, the current Arsenal team is very weak.  
But they are interested enough to make the deal, if the deal is executed the best performance will be much more than possible. But now Manchester City and Real Madrid are the top two teams in the current list.

Real Madrid has shown their capacity as a title contender so far, the combination of young and experienced players of course makes Madrid currently quite strong and able to overcome every opponent so it is not surprising if they are able to win the 15th championship trophy this season, next season they will have Mbappe in their squad so that with the addition of Mbappe, of course, it makes the attacking line very dangerous because it is indeed skill,  their performance and sharpness in scoring goals have been extraordinary so far, what you say of course I totally agree, Madrid next season will certainly be a team that we can say has the potential to win the Champions League again.

Next season we will see a fierce competition in the Champions League, although Madrid currently has a very capable squad and arguably very tough, but I think we cannot underestimate other teams that are currently starting to improve the quality, mentality and quantity of their squad, including Arsenal this season.
I agree with you that Arsenal may be one of the hottest clubs that are going to compete for the champions league trophy come next season,they have built a formidable team that can withstand the pressure of any team,and to me,what made them  got eliminated from the tournament by Bayern was because they lacked that experience that can make them win Bayern.We all know how strong Bayern can be in the competition,but Arsenal were in a better shape to eliminate them.However,that has passed,next season is going to be a tough and competitive one because I know quite well that the gunners won't want to be removed so quick from the competition,it's going to be a very competitive one.

I think the English Premier League is where I think Arsenal will do very well next season because they still having gotten the quality players that can compete with the big teams which we always see in the champions league, Arsenal team has improved in performance no doubt but last season they were in their best form but still failed to defeat the Bayern Munich team that experienced their worst form last season. Arsenal will not be easily eliminated in the champions league next season but they still don't have a team that can withstand teams like Real Madrid, they still need to sign more good players to be able to compete in the champions league. I think the Premier League is where Arsenal will do well next season if they don't lose form but winning the champions league by them will be difficult for now until they build the team to be undefeated.
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June 15, 2024, 04:34:20 PM
With the arrival of Mbappe, it is certain that a new strategy will be needed in the team. In fact, Mbappe and Bellingham can play in harmony with each other, if they are placed on the field correctly, Real Madrid will have no problems scoring goals next season. But these two players need to be compatible with each other, if they cannot achieve this, there may be some confusion Smiley


And don't be surprised that you won't see much changes even when mbappe comes because the way people are putting trust in how Mbappe will transform real Madrid and what they don't understand is that Madrid is already a made club, even if Mbappe did not come to real Madrid nothing will still change because from the beginning Madrid already have excellent players, the way it is anything mbappe is doing is doing for him self not for Madrid and it won't affect them because it was even a free agent. They did not lose anything. And and Mbappe will need to adjust to the way Madrid is playing. A lot of mysterious things will happen next season, the way some clubs will improve no one will expect it.
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June 15, 2024, 04:22:07 PM
Atalanta together with Bayern Leverkusen will play in the Champions League but I don’t think they will both go far in the league since they’re lesser teams compare to other teams that will be playing in that competition. They can try their best, but I don’t see them even reaching the quarter finals or exiting pass the quarter finals of the competition. In this stages, the game would have been filtered to the most experienced and best teams which I don’t think they’ll fall in that last eight categories or will escape from that stage if they do.
What if they go far? You can't be just too certain because this is football and like I will always say, anything can happen at any point in time because it's the nature of it, football do comes with too many uncertainties and never can it be that you can express a 100% certainty and still get to win same except for the few lucky times, it will surprise you to know that even big teams do get to the point where they turn out been luck dependent too in football and that's why I don't usually like to be certain about predictions or speculations in football and sports generally.

Atlanta got to the point where they got almost everyone shocked and the winning of the Europa finals was the height of the surprise they did pulled up on almost everyone this season that just ended. I believe that they will be able to still put in some good and reasonable efforts in the next season game because they may still have that confidence they had built-in winning the Europa finals even if as most champions league teams are top teams but confidently contending them is such a privilege and winning them will even be a bigger one, every team in the champions league is a big and good team.
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June 15, 2024, 04:06:54 PM
I still believe that for next season the trio of Vini, Mbappe and Rodrygo will adorn Ancelotti's 4-3-3 line-up and scheme which will indirectly make the position of Vini or Mbappe to be moved to CF.

I'm not seeing it this way. What I see is the trio of Kylian Mbappe, Endrick and Vinicius Junior on the right wing. Luka Modric behind them, Jude Bellingham and then Camavinga or Aurelin Tchouameni in the middle of these names shielding up the defenders and providing a link frommthe defense to the midfielder's. Either of them can do this anyways. I do love Rodrygo, but I feel like, he would hee better on the left wing than he is on the right. Anyways, they'd have to rotate the pitch themselves.

I'm certain this side would definitely not disappoint when it comes to winning the La Liga Competition next season. Tjey look solid on paper from defenders to attackers.
Aurelien Tchouameni c an even be used to play center back while Camavinga fill up for him. In the absence of Luka Modric, Valverde can step up for Jude Bellingham to go ahead of him while he protects the midfied and at the same time attack.

Valverde had a big role in this last Champions League Competition, only a few would see that he was everywhere, tirelessly doing dirty jobs.
You're not wrong about that lineup. Goddamn strong, that is. But remember that Ancelotti makes the decisions. Having this much talent at his hands doesn't scare him

Bellingham's a beast, no doubt. But Mbappe is the alpha dog on this pitch. Simply said, he is a goal-scoring machine. I think they'll have a more balanced attack, with Mbappe and Vini causing trouble up front and Bellingham running things behind them

As for those egos? Ancelotti's got this. These two aren't his biggest divas. This team will be a destruction symphony, for "Real"
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June 15, 2024, 03:54:49 PM
Here are the winning chance of each team to become a champion in the next season:

60% for Real Madrid
39% for Manchester City
1% for Arsenal, Inter, Milan, Barcelona, PSG, Bayern Munich, Leverkusen etc. Tongue

Real Madrid without Mbappe can still become a champion in this season, so it's no doubt majority of people will believe in Real Madrid.

Yeah it really seems like a joke. Real Madrid is not too strong, they were so lucky on semifinal with Bayern on Madrid (especially on 1-1 goal).
Manchester City? Good on a paper but pitch says something different.
1% for all teams in the world excluding 2 overhyped teams? Really?
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June 15, 2024, 03:46:16 PM
The Champions League final is the biggest stage in European club football. There legends are created. While Leverkusen enjoyed a fantastic Bundesliga run, its not the Champions League. Their Europa League final loss to Atalanta gave them a taste of the real thing.

Everything changes in the Champions League. It moves more quickly and is more tactically sound. There is tremendous pressure because those are the greatest players in the world. Leverkusen has to elevate their game if they hope to contend. They need to adapt. They will truly be tested, but that's also what makes it so thrilling. Lets see what they've got.
The Champions League is different from the domestic league, here the pressure will be much greater because here is the biggest stage for European football. all teams compete to be the best, but not all teams can do that. A tough challenge for Leverkusen next season, they have to answer the expectations placed on them after they performed so well this season. In the end, all eyes will be on their performance and waiting to see how far they can go in the Champions League.
Self-confidence is very important and they must create it well. Self-confidence will awaken their mentality to be even better, because in the Champions League a strong mentality is something they must have. The existing pressure means they have to have it, because if they don't have it then what they have prepared will be destroyed when they are on the field under enormous pressure.

Knowing that the champions league is not that simple like domestic leagues, especially Bayer Leverkusen, this is their first time playing in the champions league, and due to their incredible performance of the last season, they have potential and higher expectations, so it will not be a simple run for Bayer Leverkusen because they are not only playing in the champions league next season but also learning how to maintain their performance and increase their effort to play something tangible in the league. 

Although if you are to consider the fact of their performance, you will see that Bayer Leverkusen will be able to overcome all the tough challenges and have the courage and confidence to face any other team. Know that the Champions League is a game of winners, and the best way to find the best amount for them Beyer leverkusen will need a higher amount of confidence to do something tangible in the league. 
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June 15, 2024, 03:40:19 PM
The Champions League final is the biggest stage in European club football. There legends are created. While Leverkusen enjoyed a fantastic Bundesliga run, its not the Champions League. Their Europa League final loss to Atalanta gave them a taste of the real thing.

Everything changes in the Champions League. It moves more quickly and is more tactically sound. There is tremendous pressure because those are the greatest players in the world. Leverkusen has to elevate their game if they hope to contend. They need to adapt. They will truly be tested, but that's also what makes it so thrilling. Lets see what they've got.

I won’t be giving Bayern Leverkusen so much hope to go far in the champions league even if they had played brilliantly well in the last season and they still show some prowess in them to be able to perform better in the next season. The champions league is a very big competition that involves bigger and tougher teams than what Bayern Leverkusen faced in the last season. They have to step up their game in order to dominate in the champions league also, because they are on high alert for different teams because of their great ability that they displayed in the last season.

Atalanta together with Bayern Leverkusen will play in the Champions League but I don’t think they will both go far in the league since they’re lesser teams compare to other teams that will be playing in that competition. They can try their best, but I don’t see them even reaching the quarter finals or exiting pass the quarter finals of the competition. In this stages, the game would have been filtered to the most experienced and best teams which I don’t think they’ll fall in that last eight categories or will escape from that stage if they do.
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