UEFA Champions League 2024/25 Season - page 97.

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PSG is basically bad at competing in the Champions League, so the reason Bayern Munich is favored to win is very reasonable. It's notjust about the depth of the squad they have, but based on PSG's history in the Champions League, the fact that PSG still gets bad results. After all, when PSG still had Mbappe, Messi and Neymar, and the fact PSG still failed to get good results in the Champions League. So, it is no longer about players and coaches, but their performance and also their results so far in the Champions League, so it is very natural and reasonable that Bayern Munich is the favorite team to win, moreover Bayern Munich will also play at home.

I will not say that PSG squad is weak. But PSG squad has less experienced players. And it is very difficult to perform well in Champions League with inexperienced players. That is why PSG's performance in Champions League is very weak despite being able to perform well in Ligue 1. PSG is in 25th position in Champions League points table. PSG won the first match of Champions League. PSG lost points in the next three matches.

Bayern Munich vs PSG match Bayern Munich is favorite. Because Bayern Munich is more experienced, moreover Bayern Munich's squad is also strong. However, Bayern Munich team is also not able to perform well in Champions League. Kompany is not an experienced coach. He has not been able to bring stability to Bayern Munich's performance yet. So it is expected that Munich vs PSG match will be very competitive. We will be able to enjoy an exciting match.

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The chances of winning both 50:50 can be possible but the odds offered by the bookies are completely different where Real Madrid has higher odds @3.60 and Liverpool @2.00 a really far difference but I know Real Madrid is currently declining a little compared to Liverpool which is quite consistent.

I will probably bet on Liverpool with a single bet. Believe that Liverpool playing at home will be much more aggressive with their performance.
As far as we know Real Madrid has an unpredictable comeback, it is surprising that Liverpool has experienced it.

But it looks like it would be quite fun if we took the risk of favoring Real Madrid in this match and then saw Real Madrid come back and win the match. But Real Madrid's current condition is quite doubtful. Their back line is still experiencing decline due to the absence of several players due to injury. And sometimes they also miss quite a lot of opportunities obtained by the attack line. So betting on Liverpool can really make us feel a little calm because we remember that Liverpool are still the most consistent this season, both in the UCL and in the Premier League. But h2h shows that Liverpool suffered more defeats when facing Real Madrid. But I doubt it will happen again.

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Quote from: Uruhara on November 21, 2024, 10:35:34 AM

I also feel that PSG is not lucky enough because the opponents they face are tough opponents like Arsenal, Man City and Bayern. And I also doubt that PSG will succeed in getting full points in the match against Bayern. Because Bayern are also in the position of host, of course they will fight harder than usual and of course Bayern will not want to disappoint their own supporters. The positions of PSG and Bayern are actually both difficult. because both of them also need points from each other. Because Bayern also had some pretty bad results before. I think both teams will play with a high level of aggressiveness. So I predict that many goals will occur in this match.

Like it or not, sometimes luck is also an important factor for a team, especially when drawing who will be their opponent. In the previous format which still used the group phase format, luck in the draw was something that the team wanted, because sometimes they could end up in the group of hell filled with big teams. Honestly, I miss the term group of hell that we still used last season.
However, they have to be ready for whoever their opponent is. For a team, there is actually no reason to meet any team, because whoever they face they have to show their best. In reality, many teams lose when facing teams that are considered weak.

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Liverpool have a more consistent performance than Real Madrid. And if it is a big match I think the chances are 50:50 because both teams are often favorites. But with their current form I think Liverpool are more favored to win this match. Arne Slot can really maintain Liverpool's performance which is even better than the previous season.
But if we talk about UCL I still favor Real Madrid to be the champion this season. Just like the previous season where City were favored to win the UCL but in the end Real Madrid won.

The chances of winning both 50:50 can be possible but the odds offered by the bookies are completely different where Real Madrid has higher odds @3.60 and Liverpool @2.00 a really far difference but I know Real Madrid is currently declining a little compared to Liverpool which is quite consistent.

I will probably bet on Liverpool with a single bet. Believe that Liverpool playing at home will be much more aggressive with their performance.
As far as we know Real Madrid has an unpredictable comeback, it is surprising that Liverpool has experienced it.

The offer of opportunities from the city shows that they are quite pessimistic about Real Madrid at this time because they are in their own faith so it will be very difficult to trust Real Madrid to get victory, then Liverpool are in the opposite circumstances with a very good situation, they get a consistent victory and that is what Make those dealers very more optimistic to win by Liverpool in this match, I think I will gamble solely for this match, very sorry if you miss this match, even though Real Madrid, including my favorite team in La Liga, I will not bet In situations like this.

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Quote from: armanda90 on November 21, 2024, 05:45:08 AM

In this season, PSG have downtrend performance in UEFA Champion League after playing four matches have defeated 2 matches and 1 being by having four points. Out from the playoff round position make PSG must secure all three points left and facing Bayern Munich become difficult match will easily get three points or not.

PSG have defeated by Arsenal and Atletico Madrid, only one winning match when facing Girona but being draw when facing PSV make difficult position how to break the higher standings place. I don't think easily for PSG to secure the top eighth position standings behind four matches left have to face Bayern Munich, Salzburg, Manchester City and VfB Stuttgart.

I also feel that PSG is not lucky enough because the opponents they face are tough opponents like Arsenal, Man City and Bayern. And I also doubt that PSG will succeed in getting full points in the match against Bayern. Because Bayern are also in the position of host, of course they will fight harder than usual and of course Bayern will not want to disappoint their own supporters. The positions of PSG and Bayern are actually both difficult. because both of them also need points from each other. Because Bayern also had some pretty bad results before. I think both teams will play with a high level of aggressiveness. So I predict that many goals will occur in this match.

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Quote from: hahay on November 21, 2024, 09:58:23 AM

PSG is basically bad at competing in the Champions League, so the reason Bayern Munich is favored to win is very reasonable. It's notjust about the depth of the squad they have, but based on PSG's history in the Champions League, the fact that PSG still gets bad results. After all, when PSG still had Mbappe, Messi and Neymar, and the fact PSG still failed to get good results in the Champions League. So, it is no longer about players and coaches, but their performance and also their results so far in the Champions League, so it is very natural and reasonable that Bayern Munich is the favorite team to win, moreover Bayern Munich will also play at home.

PSG used to be bad at knock out phases in Champions League but it's a first season after many year, they're playing very terrible at a group phase. It's not because UEFA changed the format of Champions League and it's a first season with these big changes. Two recent seasons, PSG changed their transfer strategy and they no longer are ready to spent huge money for purchasing a star player.

The departure of Messi, Mbappe, Neymar affects their attacking system and this season shows it clearly. Their midfield especially defense field, are their main weaknesses in this season too. If PSG fail to go through a group phase, this season is a serious failure for their club. It's unacceptable to see a rich club with high ambition to win Champions League, has to return to a domestic league after failing in Champions League group phase, too early.

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It’s difficult to pick a clear favorite in this match because football is unpredictable. While Bayern Munich are considered by many as the favourite of the pair due to their squad depth and quality of their players, it doesn't make PSG any less competitive. I also disagree with the idea that PSG are weak without Kylian Mbappe. Although things were easier with him because Mbappe was a game changer in PSG but since his departure the club has not been short of attacking talents in my opinion.

If it comes to picking a favorite, I don't think I'll pick psg because they haven't been my favorite from the start. In games like this, I'll even go for Bayern to win because peg has been unstable for some time now, and you wouldn't expect me to bet on a club like that because there's a lot that psg has been missing out on, which is why they've been very unstable, and since Mbappe left, there haven't been any serious changes, and even if they want to replace they need people that are very capable. I can not every remember when last I thought about psg not because of anything but because mbappe is no longer there so it make their match less intresting to watch and Bayern have a lead in this game so if am betting am definitely betting on Bayern to win because they currently have more aura than psg.

PSG is basically bad at competing in the Champions League, so the reason Bayern Munich is favored to win is very reasonable. It's notjust about the depth of the squad they have, but based on PSG's history in the Champions League, the fact that PSG still gets bad results. After all, when PSG still had Mbappe, Messi and Neymar, and the fact PSG still failed to get good results in the Champions League. So, it is no longer about players and coaches, but their performance and also their results so far in the Champions League, so it is very natural and reasonable that Bayern Munich is the favorite team to win, moreover Bayern Munich will also play at home.

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Quote from: Docnaster on November 21, 2024, 09:30:48 AM

This is my first time of seeing the number of odds bookmakers gave to Real Madrid to win at Anfield when they travel to face Liverpool next week in the UEFA Champions League competition and to be honest, I'm going to risk it by staking on a Real Madrid win. Real Madrid may not be as consistent and impressive as Liverpool have been this season but considering the quality of players in the Madrid squad and their unbeatable records in the competition, I think they have all it takes to get all three points at Liverpool so I'm going for a straight win for Real Madrid.

What do you mean by unbeatable records?
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In 2023, Manchester City won the Champions League.
Few weeks ago Real Madrid lost against Lille and Milan in Champions League qualification.

If quality players is the biggest factor to judge the team results, Real Madrid should've won all the match, while Liverpool should be lost many match.

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I still think Real Madrid is quite serious in building their team this season because their less than optimal performance lately does not mean that they should judge them as not serious in playing in every match. But it is more about the performance of their players who are a bit chaotic because there are old players who have retired and also there are new players who may not be used to the tactics in Real Madrid. So I will not judge them for seriousness or not because in reality they are really serious in every match even though the results may look different for this season.

Madrid only brought in two players this season, namely Mbappe and Endrick, so adaptation should not be the reason for Madrid slump, especially since the league has entered week 13, what does it take that long for a star player to adapt to the game of his new team?
Meanwhile, the retirement of kroos and the absence of players who can cover the hole left by kroos in the midfield in my opinion is a slightly better reason than players adapt.

Mbappe was a huge part of the teams efforts for years, so he is definitely an adaptation issue. They got him to play at striker, and he is not a striker at all, he is a left wing, and Real Madrid has one of the most established left wingers of all time right now, it's guaranteed that they are not going to move Vinicious Jr. to any other place, and Mbappe wants to play there for some reason. He is making a bigger deal it should be, he is asking to get that kind of replacement and because of that I am not entirely sure if we are going to see this growing to be a bigger problem at all.

I am not sure if we are going to see them making a bigger change or not, but this isn't normal and we shouldn't really be seeing them playing worse after adding a great player like him. Ancelotti has to pull off some magic and convince Mbappe that he would be better at striker to make sure that team doesn't get interrupted like this, or they will keep on being worse.

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Quote from: Hanadawa on November 20, 2024, 12:24:43 PM

Liverpool have a more consistent performance than Real Madrid. And if it is a big match I think the chances are 50:50 because both teams are often favorites. But with their current form I think Liverpool are more favored to win this match. Arne Slot can really maintain Liverpool's performance which is even better than the previous season.
But if we talk about UCL I still favor Real Madrid to be the champion this season. Just like the previous season where City were favored to win the UCL but in the end Real Madrid won.

The chances of winning both 50:50 can be possible but the odds offered by the bookies are completely different where Real Madrid has higher odds @3.60 and Liverpool @2.00 a really far difference but I know Real Madrid is currently declining a little compared to Liverpool which is quite consistent.

I will probably bet on Liverpool with a single bet. Believe that Liverpool playing at home will be much more aggressive with their performance.
As far as we know Real Madrid has an unpredictable comeback, it is surprising that Liverpool has experienced it.

Don't sweat it, consistency or not, Liverpool will not be able to withstand the force from the Real Madrid team. Though the English side is currently enjoying some form of streak at the moment but I think Real Madrid has a more formidable team that is capable of winning anywhere. Liverpool may have the home advantage but I think that wouldn't count much because a lot is at stake for Real Madrid and it is a must win for them and they would be coming to take all three points and wouldn't want to get a draw either. Liverpool has nothing much to lose on this game whatever the outcome and that's why I am giving it to Real Madrid to win.

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The chances of winning both 50:50 can be possible but the odds offered by the bookies are completely different where Real Madrid has higher odds @3.60 and Liverpool @2.00 a really far difference but I know Real Madrid is currently declining a little compared to Liverpool which is quite consistent.

I will probably bet on Liverpool with a single bet. Believe that Liverpool playing at home will be much more aggressive with their performance.
As far as we know Real Madrid has an unpredictable comeback, it is surprising that Liverpool has experienced it.

This is my first time of seeing the number of odds bookmakers gave to Real Madrid to win at Anfield when they travel to face Liverpool next week in the UEFA Champions League competition and to be honest, I'm going to risk it by staking on a Real Madrid win. Real Madrid may not be as consistent and impressive as Liverpool have been this season but considering the quality of players in the Madrid squad and their unbeatable records in the competition, I think they have all it takes to get all three points at Liverpool so I'm going for a straight win for Real Madrid.

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Quote from: Pokapoka124 on November 20, 2024, 03:30:21 PM

It’s difficult to pick a clear favorite in this match because football is unpredictable. While Bayern Munich are considered by many as the favourite of the pair due to their squad depth and quality of their players, it doesn't make PSG any less competitive. I also disagree with the idea that PSG are weak without Kylian Mbappe. Although things were easier with him because Mbappe was a game changer in PSG but since his departure the club has not been short of attacking talents in my opinion.

If it comes to picking a favorite, I don't think I'll pick psg because they haven't been my favorite from the start. In games like this, I'll even go for Bayern to win because peg has been unstable for some time now, and you wouldn't expect me to bet on a club like that because there's a lot that psg has been missing out on, which is why they've been very unstable, and since Mbappe left, there haven't been any serious changes, and even if they want to replace they need people that are very capable. I can not every remember when last I thought about psg not because of anything but because mbappe is no longer there so it make their match less intresting to watch and Bayern have a lead in this game so if am betting am definitely betting on Bayern to win because they currently have more aura than psg.

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Bayern will face Shakhtar, Feyenoord, Slovan after PSG. PSG will face Salzburg, City and Stuttgart Grin

I would say that Bayern is in a much better situation and they can afford to make a couple of mistakes and still end up in the playoffs. But PSG has big problems - if they lose to Bayern, then every game will be like the last one and it is far from certain that PSG will be able to get the required number of points.

Mehn!! I doubt they are going to make it out of that pit Grin

... Although, City are not in their shape but they could be full of surprises, don't know about the other two opponent but UCL is not for the weak anyways Cheesy

it's gonna be a tough journey if they actually want to climb up..

It will be mega funny if PSG doesn't make it to the playoffs, that is, ends up worse than 24 other European clubs Grin

And this is quite possible - I expect City to win in Paris, and PSG plays away from home against Salzburg and Stuttgart, which gives the hosts additional advantages. Considering that PSG has only 4 points, one win will not be enough for them to qualify. That is, defeats from City and Stuttgart will throw them out of the tournament.

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Quote from: Weawant on November 20, 2024, 06:37:13 PM

Bayern Munich may not win PSG, let's not forget even the bookies allocate these odds based off their expectations and sometimes as a strategy to get more Gamblers on that pick, this is because Bayern Munich is managed by someone who isn't as experienced in the champions League as that of PSG, although I didn't want to see that as a complete bias for taughts but it's significant enough to consider, home advantage is another factor to be considered so let's not conclude just yet but go ahead with our speculations.

After every game they are getting more experience and having good improvement into their performance which is good sign for them because now things are back for them to lead in Bundesliga and have good result into Champions League while they face two defeats from their early four games into Champions League now they will not give any chance to their opponents for having anything positive from them.

Defeat against Barcelona were more painful so now we can face backlash from them which could be not good for the PSG which is also in deep trouble after having only 1 point from their last 3 games their worst performance at home is more troubling with on road their chances are never been ideal because their attack is now having not good depth and defense is also mess-up which not helping them for having positive end of this season in Champions League.

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Quote from: mamesso on November 21, 2024, 03:18:35 AM

Almost every season PSG always looks weak when playing in the UCL, previously they had the best front line in the world consisting of Messi, Neymar and Mbappe, but the presence of the trio could not have a positive impact. Now that the trio have left one by one for other clubs, PSG will find it increasingly difficult to compete with other clubs, in fact in four matches they have only managed to win once, draw once and lose twice.

PSG just don't manage to win a single title in the Champions League no matter how strong squad they have. Their biggest success is to play in a finale and that's all.

I remember those times with a dream trio like Messi - Mbappe - Neymar. However there was a problem about it. Neymar was mostly missing the games because of injuries. Besides PSG were still not very effective as a team. This situation just caused them to waste a big opportunity with such attackers. Sad

Now they are even in much worse condition in the Champions League. Being rich is really not enough for dominating every tournament. You need a solid vision too.

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Quote from: mamesso on November 21, 2024, 03:18:35 AM

Almost every season PSG always looks weak when playing in the UCL, previously they had the best front line in the world consisting of Messi, Neymar and Mbappe, but the presence of the trio could not have a positive impact. Now that the trio have left one by one for other clubs, PSG will find it increasingly difficult to compete with other clubs, in fact in four matches they have only managed to win once, draw once and lose twice.

PSG's position in the current Champions League standings is also very bad and even PSG still has to fight to be able to improve their position to a much better position. Because each team still has four more matches before ensuring that they can qualify for the next round in the Champions League this season. And it seems that I am starting to be less sure that PSG can easily qualify for the next round if they do not improve their performance from now on because other teams are always trying to be better in the Champions League.

This means that the match against Bayern Munich is a must for PSG to secure full points if they want a greater chance of qualifying for the next phase, but the big challenge is that Bayern Munich is not a weak team, they are favored in the match, especially their status as hosts. It seems that this season PSG will indeed have difficulty advancing to the next round or they could also be eliminated in this qualifying round. And I see that PSG is not unable to compete tightly, it's just that their mentality in this competition is doubtful, maybe because in the local league they don't get much pressure from their competitors, so when they feel great pressure in the UCL competition they have difficulty getting out.

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Quote from: mamesso on November 21, 2024, 03:18:35 AM

Almost every season PSG always looks weak when playing in the UCL, previously they had the best front line in the world consisting of Messi, Neymar and Mbappe, but the presence of the trio could not have a positive impact. Now that the trio have left one by one for other clubs, PSG will find it increasingly difficult to compete with other clubs, in fact in four matches they have only managed to win once, draw once and lose twice.

PSG's position in the current Champions League standings is also very bad and even PSG still has to fight to be able to improve their position to a much better position. Because each team still has four more matches before ensuring that they can qualify for the next round in the Champions League this season. And it seems that I am starting to be less sure that PSG can easily qualify for the next round if they do not improve their performance from now on because other teams are always trying to be better in the Champions League.

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Quote from: Hanadawa on November 20, 2024, 12:24:43 PM

Liverpool have a more consistent performance than Real Madrid. And if it is a big match I think the chances are 50:50 because both teams are often favorites. But with their current form I think Liverpool are more favored to win this match. Arne Slot can really maintain Liverpool's performance which is even better than the previous season.
But if we talk about UCL I still favor Real Madrid to be the champion this season. Just like the previous season where City were favored to win the UCL but in the end Real Madrid won.

The chances of winning both 50:50 can be possible but the odds offered by the bookies are completely different where Real Madrid has higher odds @3.60 and Liverpool @2.00 a really far difference but I know Real Madrid is currently declining a little compared to Liverpool which is quite consistent.

I will probably bet on Liverpool with a single bet. Believe that Liverpool playing at home will be much more aggressive with their performance.
As far as we know Real Madrid has an unpredictable comeback, it is surprising that Liverpool has experienced it.

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Quote from: Publictalk792 on November 20, 2024, 07:51:58 PM

You are right PSG has struggled in UEFA Champions League lately. They have lost to Arsenal and Atlético Madrid, and tied with PSV. Bayern Munich has stronger team and better winning record giving them an advantage. However PSG still has Kylian Mbappe who can change game. Although Mbappe has not led PSG to Champions League victory he remains threat. This matchup is exciting. Bayern Munich consistency might be too much for PSG but Mbappe could pull off an upset.

In this season, PSG have downtrend performance in UEFA Champion League after playing four matches have defeated 2 matches and 1 being by having four points. Out from the playoff round position make PSG must secure all three points left and facing Bayern Munich become difficult match will easily get three points or not.

PSG have defeated by Arsenal and Atletico Madrid, only one winning match when facing Girona but being draw when facing PSV make difficult position how to break the higher standings place. I don't think easily for PSG to secure the top eighth position standings behind four matches left have to face Bayern Munich, Salzburg, Manchester City and VfB Stuttgart.

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Quote from: Fara Chan on November 20, 2024, 03:55:13 AM

I still think Real Madrid is quite serious in building their team this season because their less than optimal performance lately does not mean that they should judge them as not serious in playing in every match. But it is more about the performance of their players who are a bit chaotic because there are old players who have retired and also there are new players who may not be used to the tactics in Real Madrid. So I will not judge them for seriousness or not because in reality they are really serious in every match even though the results may look different for this season.

The reason for this was that Real Madrid built its foundation which is slowly crumbling due to poor performance in some matches. If they don't play nice on it soon, it will get worse and then they will have to reestablish their strength.But his performance will mostly be seen this season. So will definitely be stronger in the second season. but they have to win this match now to make their win list again and also improve their record.If Real Madrid can win in their next matches I am confident that they will come back to their strength. Many people have high hopes for Real Madrid and Real Madrid will not disappoint those hopes. If their players are injured, they will return to their best form soon.

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