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Football matches aren't won by statistics as there're different strategy to win a matches. A team might decide to sit deep to defend and counter attack their opponents when the opportunity presents itself resulting to them most likely winning the game. Atl Madrid are known for doing exactly that. That Liverpool dominated most stats is mostly due to the fact Atl Madrid allowed them to.
And Liverpool are also not a team that dominates when it comes to possession, they are mostly an all out attack team, relying mostly on plenty of crosses. Atheletio made them dominate possession just as you said, they(Athletico)love to sit back, tighten up their defense and are decisive in attack, this presented a field day for Liverpool to dominate the possession and boss the game.

To be fair to Liverpool, they should have won the game, they were the better team and should have scored more goals than Athletico, but in football a second can change anything, sadly Adrian turned out to be the villain at the end of the day as Diego simeone and his men progressed. Liverpool have only the EPL to win now, not as successful as they would have wanted I'm sure.
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It was such a pity to see Liverpool crashing out of the Uefa Champions League this season, after witnessing how Liverpool demolished all of the English Premier League teams this season, I was hoping to see Liverpool progressing into the finals in the Uefa Champions League this season, but Atletico Madrid did played really well in the extra time to beat Liverpool at the stadium of Anfield.

And the funny thing is they were actually better this season than last season, except in Champions League where they did not seem as superb as last season. I guess everybody runs out of steam eventually but the problem was they had Karius in the 2 seasons ago and Adrian in this season. Not to blame him entirely but you cannot be best team to progress if you do not have the class of Jan Oblak.

If liverpool keeper Adrian doesn't make it as silly as possible liverpool will win against Athletico Madrid for having led 2-0 in extra time, but bad luck lies with the Liverpool goalkeeper making liverpool players off guard with the error and I think this is clearly Adrian's funny mistake .

From defense to attackers liverpool players are very good at processing balls and kicks but Oblak is able to save his goal well.
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It was such a pity to see Liverpool crashing out of the Uefa Champions League this season, after witnessing how Liverpool demolished all of the English Premier League teams this season, I was hoping to see Liverpool progressing into the finals in the Uefa Champions League this season, but Atletico Madrid did played really well in the extra time to beat Liverpool at the stadium of Anfield.
It's sad if we look at ball possession statistics, passes and corner kicks that are dominated by Liverpool then in data, Liverpool should win, but Liverpool really not lucky.

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Yeah, this Champions is already over it will be canceled with no winners IMHO and money given to teams by some coefficients.
I hope this will not happen.. I am very curious about which team won the champions league this season.

There are so many funds at stake ranging from sponsorship to ticket fees, and this is one reason why the league will get postponed and not canceled.

Rather, i will prefer the postponement of the euro too,
The season will probably end in June
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It was such a pity to see Liverpool crashing out of the Uefa Champions League this season, after witnessing how Liverpool demolished all of the English Premier League teams this season, I was hoping to see Liverpool progressing into the finals in the Uefa Champions League this season, but Atletico Madrid did played really well in the extra time to beat Liverpool at the stadium of Anfield.

And the funny thing is they were actually better this season than last season, except in Champions League where they did not seem as superb as last season. I guess everybody runs out of steam eventually but the problem was they had Karius in the 2 seasons ago and Adrian in this season. Not to blame him entirely but you cannot be best team to progress if you do not have the class of Jan Oblak.
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I guess now we have more time to prepare and who knows Luis Suarez makes a surprise comeback with all this additional time. Doubt we'll see Barca game happen now. What do you guys think, will this really be a postponed season or just ended with no result? It would be such a strange season!

@Cryptobrainboss you're absolutely right and again statistics give you an expected outcome. Liverpool and no team in the world are expected to go unbeaten, so Liverpool are paying for all their streaks now, which makes statistics normal in the end.
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It was such a pity to see Liverpool crashing out of the Uefa Champions League this season, after witnessing how Liverpool demolished all of the English Premier League teams this season, I was hoping to see Liverpool progressing into the finals in the Uefa Champions League this season, but Atletico Madrid did played really well in the extra time to beat Liverpool at the stadium of Anfield.
It's sad if we look at ball possession statistics, passes and corner kicks that are dominated by Liverpool then in data, Liverpool should win, but Liverpool really not lucky.

Football matches aren't won by statistics as there're different strategy to win a matches. A team might decide to sit deep to defend and counter attack their opponents when the opportunity presents itself resulting to them most likely winning the game. Atl Madrid are known for doing exactly that. That Liverpool dominated most stats is mostly due to the fact Atl Madrid allowed them to.

Concerning @Barcode statement, That Liverpool dominated the premier doesn't mean they should be the favorite to win the champion league. These are two different tournament with different atmosphere. Don't also forget, Watford destroyed they said demolishers you speak off.
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It was such a pity to see Liverpool crashing out of the Uefa Champions League this season, after witnessing how Liverpool demolished all of the English Premier League teams this season, I was hoping to see Liverpool progressing into the finals in the Uefa Champions League this season, but Atletico Madrid did played really well in the extra time to beat Liverpool at the stadium of Anfield.
It's sad if we look at ball possession statistics, passes and corner kicks that are dominated by Liverpool then in data, Liverpool should win, but Liverpool really not lucky.

snip..
Yeah, this Champions is already over it will be canceled with no winners IMHO and money given to teams by some coefficients.
I hope this will not happen.. I am very curious about which team won the champions league this season.
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As for now 2 big matches are postponed🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 Manchester City – Real Madrid 🇪🇸 and
🇮🇹 Juventus – Olympique Lyonnais 🇫🇷, with no new date...

https://twitter.com/UEFA/status/1238135890628706308

Yeah, this Champions is already over it will be canceled with no winners IMHO and money given to teams by some coefficients.

L’Équipe is also reporting something similar.. Would be devastating if this really becomes true, but every day that passes, it looks more likely.

Next Tuesday, UEFA is set to announce the temporary suspension of the Champions League and Europa League as well as the postponement of the Euros to summer 2021. The domestic leagues should also be suspended, although they're not directly related to UEFA [@lequipe]

Source: https://twitter.com/iMiaSanMia/status/1238121323487870976
Only sad news nowadays for real, i am still wondering why they are delaying the announcement, it is obvious that postponing CL & EL will take place today or tomorrow. Better to fix a temporary dates after 1 and 1/2 month..
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As for now 2 big matches are postponed🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 Manchester City – Real Madrid 🇪🇸 and
🇮🇹 Juventus – Olympique Lyonnais 🇫🇷, with no new date...

https://twitter.com/UEFA/status/1238135890628706308

Yeah, this Champions is already over it will be canceled with no winners IMHO and money given to teams by some coefficients.

L’Équipe is also reporting something similar.. Would be devastating if this really becomes true, but every day that passes, it looks more likely.

Next Tuesday, UEFA is set to announce the temporary suspension of the Champions League and Europa League as well as the postponement of the Euros to summer 2021. The domestic leagues should also be suspended, although they're not directly related to UEFA [@lequipe]

Source: https://twitter.com/iMiaSanMia/status/1238121323487870976
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As for now 2 big matches are postponed🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 Manchester City – Real Madrid 🇪🇸 and
🇮🇹 Juventus – Olympique Lyonnais 🇫🇷, with no new date...

https://twitter.com/UEFA/status/1238135890628706308

Yeah, this Champions is already over it will be canceled with no winners IMHO and money given to teams by some coefficients.
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Fantastic game, it was spectacular. Atletico players and Simeone once again are showing that when it comes to determination they know exactly what it means.

History has a way of repeating itself but many thought it'll be impossible since Liverpool at anfield were previously impossible to defeat. They all forgot, Diego Simeone has never lost a champion league knockout stage game that doesn't feature Christian Ronaldo and that record still stand.

Liverpool fans should just thank God that Manchester city and other potential contenders for the title have just been poor this season if not the possibility of Gerrarding the title would had been in discussion assuming if the race  was like last season.
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As for now 2 big matches are postponed🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 Manchester City – Real Madrid 🇪🇸 and
🇮🇹 Juventus – Olympique Lyonnais 🇫🇷, with no new date...

https://twitter.com/UEFA/status/1238135890628706308
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Oblak made several world class saves, meanwhile Adrian made one mistake. Bad day for Adrian for sure, but he is not responsible other than the first Atletico goal.
Anyway, two English teams were eliminated. I don't see that coming though, RIP bettors.

Damn it this virus ruins everything. https://talksport.com/football/680697/coronavirus-live-updates-man-city-vs-real-madrid-postponed-leicester-players-isolation-australian-grand-prix-called-off-players/
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Fantastic game, it was spectacular. Atletico players and Simeone once again are showing that when it comes to determination they know exactly what it means. I wouldn't blame Adrian, one of the goals was his fault, that's true, but let's face the facts - the guy wasn't even playing in West Ham United, Fabiański benched him as soon as he came to the club (imo, Fabiański as a second goalie in Liverpool could make huge difference, he's a perfect line keeper). Adrian is just not a great goalkeeper, that's all. If you look at the formation and positioning of certain players during the whole match, you can clearly see that every time Liverpool was attacking, one of the defenders - in the most cases it was Joe Gomez - was performing a vital role of the last defender. With Alisson between the bars, Liverpool is playing different, they can deepen their position on the field, to come even closer to the opponent goal, without having trust issues. Gomez would've played much higher, if Alisson was there.

Also - congrats to both teams, they did something great last night. Hope that UCL won't be cancelled.
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What an incredible game that was yesterday.  I'm so impressed with Atletico's determination and drive.  They never gave up and never seemed overwhelmed.  Congratulations to Atletico, and now they are my favorite to win the CL.

Liverpool has been having a great season, and I was sorry to see them drop out of the CL.  They really played well yesterday and it was looking like they would win.  I don't want to put the blame solely on the goalkeeper, but those first two goals could be called mistakes by del Castillo.

Good luck to LFC for the rest of the EPL, and better luck in the CL next year.
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This is the footballing atmosphere that no team can continue to perform well throughout the season. Liverpool's beautiful football player scored the goal in the first half of the match, then the second goal in the extra half. And he could not keep the result in his favor!!!Atletico also deserve to advance to the following rounds and I hope they win the cup. Grin

Today we canceled some of the European Union matches due to the epidemic, and luckily we will see a beautiful match tonight for United Club. I expect United to win three clean goals
 
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 I doubt a team at Liverpools talent level would be fine by just letting the time run out. I mean sure that is a good strategy for Madrid maybe but it is definitely not a good one for Liverpool. I am just guessing Klopp has one style that works perfectly for what he has on Liverpool and he did the same for Dortmund as well, doesn't require worlds greatest talents because it is basically all team playing together instead of having a messi and letting him work. However that strategy may not be awesome at defending fully until game stops, it has to attack as well.

 In any case, weirder things happens, so there is really nothing too shocking about it, Ajax destroying all good teams to go to semi-finals last year was actually bigger shock than this if you ask me, they were like teenagers when they did that Cheesy
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Last night showed the difference between a top GK & a crap one. Oblak was the only real reason Atletico didn’t lose by 4 or 5 goals in 90 mins. Liverpool played really well but you can’t have a GK making terrible mistakes & do well in the CL. Alisson would never have done something like this.

Also, there is a difference between good and cunning manager. Don't blame GK only, yes they made mistake but he is not only one who's made mistake.
At that moment, Liverpool have result enough for the next round and how they play? Risk and still attacking?! WTF? Then ATM score a goal and have favourable result and how they play then? calm and safe! Yes, the wise do it!
I have big respect to Klopp and his work, but as a tactician, he is below average and this is his fault.

I also don't want to put the blame on Adrian but really he should have done good. Klopp also backed his goalkeeper Adrian and raised questions on how Atletico Madrid was playing focussing on defense and counter attack only. Well that's also a type of game Klopp, Simeone has been doing it for years. Sometimes it does works and sometimes it doesn't and it worked for them yesterday.

Liverpool did good but as their standards I expected them to get more goals and get it done by the FT, not crashing down in OT.
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It was such a pity to see Liverpool crashing out of the Uefa Champions League this season, after witnessing how Liverpool demolished all of the English Premier League teams this season, I was hoping to see Liverpool progressing into the finals in the Uefa Champions League this season, but Atletico Madrid did played really well in the extra time to beat Liverpool at the stadium of Anfield.
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Last night showed the difference between a top GK & a crap one. Oblak was the only real reason Atletico didn’t lose by 4 or 5 goals in 90 mins. Liverpool played really well but you can’t have a GK making terrible mistakes & do well in the CL. Alisson would never have done something like this.

Also, there is a difference between good and cunning manager. Don't blame GK only, yes they made mistake but he is not only one who's made mistake.
At that moment, Liverpool have result enough for the next round and how they play? Risk and still attacking?! WTF? Then ATM score a goal and have favourable result and how they play then? calm and safe! Yes, the wise do it!
I have big respect to Klopp and his work, but as a tactician, he is below average and this is his fault.
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