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Quote from: coinlocket$ on March 23, 2020, 02:28:43 PM

The finals of the Uefa Champions League and Europa League are now officially postponed with no date.

This was obvious after the postpon of Euro now called 2021.

I think the best decision is to postpone all sporting activities until further notice. Because date shifting, organizing meetings (even if its zoom) is not needed at this point.
Suspend all tournaments, let the world heal and recover, then debates can start on a complete overhaul of season.

But in my own opinion, i will say end this season any time it ends, void the coming season, so players can prepare for euros, then refresh the league 2021/2022.

Perhaps until further notice, removes speculations.

Stay safe, wash your hands and keep being hygienic

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I doubt UCL will resume this year as there was a new statement world wide and we probably going to sit home until the end of August so there is no way UCL will resume this year and I wonder if Man.City will get the ban lifted for the next year as they couldn't play this year in UCL like all the other teams so it would be fair-play from FIFA to grant them access for 2021.

If somehow the UCL resumes I doubt it will gather any attention as the world is too panicked right now to think of sports....

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The finals of the Uefa Champions League and Europa League are now officially postponed with no date.

This was obvious after the postpon of Euro now called 2021.

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Quote from: slackovic on March 20, 2020, 05:05:08 AM

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I often see these kind of comments, but I don't know how can anyone compare those two. You could easily ask why should computer programmer earn $5000 a month when worker at a cash register works more hours and gets way less money.

Top football players are in high demand and that's why they get high salary. They aren't payed that much because they can run 90 minutes 300 days a year.

I know but is a fact they are workers, privileged workes with an "easy" job to do.
If normal workers work 8 hours a day for 2k month salary they should not even try to complain if they need to work 1 month more, probably with more hundreds of K as salary.

Because you know that are "extra hours" and will probably paid as extra work and yes not only 2k, not even 2k for DAY for 3 hours of training. (a lot more)

The fact is there is no easy job because every job is important. The only difference is that some workers are more valuable because of their abilities. There are plenty of people that are capable od working at a cash register, but there are only a handful of people that can play football like professional players do. Besides, if you think that playing football like a professional player is easy, why don't you try? Wouldn't you like to earn millions for playing football?

i would add story from one of my co-workers, that is programming alarm systems, but could be any other business - they are not paying their skills on the field, they are paying them because of popularity, aka. number of people that is watching them while they play, if 10.000 people would cheer him up while programming alarm system and watch it every time, he would also make millions, and that is the same for cash worker, and most of other workplaces, take for example famous cooks, they are maybe not the best but people like to watch them and they are popular, so pay is raising

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Quote from: coinlocket$ on March 19, 2020, 04:55:23 PM

Quote from: slackovic on March 19, 2020, 03:55:07 PM

I often see these kind of comments, but I don't know how can anyone compare those two. You could easily ask why should computer programmer earn $5000 a month when worker at a cash register works more hours and gets way less money.

Top football players are in high demand and that's why they get high salary. They aren't payed that much because they can run 90 minutes 300 days a year.

I know but is a fact they are workers, privileged workes with an "easy" job to do.
If normal workers work 8 hours a day for 2k month salary they should not even try to complain if they need to work 1 month more, probably with more hundreds of K as salary.

Because you know that are "extra hours" and will probably paid as extra work and yes not only 2k, not even 2k for DAY for 3 hours of training. (a lot more)

The fact is there is no easy job because every job is important. The only difference is that some workers are more valuable because of their abilities. There are plenty of people that are capable od working at a cash register, but there are only a handful of people that can play football like professional players do. Besides, if you think that playing football like a professional player is easy, why don't you try? Wouldn't you like to earn millions for playing football?

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Quote from: coinlocket$ on March 19, 2020, 04:55:23 PM

Quote from: slackovic on March 19, 2020, 03:55:07 PM

I often see these kind of comments, but I don't know how can anyone compare those two. You could easily ask why should computer programmer earn $5000 a month when worker at a cash register works more hours and gets way less money.

Top football players are in high demand and that's why they get high salary. They aren't payed that much because they can run 90 minutes 300 days a year.

I know but is a fact they are workers, privileged workes with an "easy" job to do.
If normal workers work 8 hours a day for 2k month salary they should not even try to complain if they need to work 1 month more, probably with more hundreds of K as salary.

Because you know that are "extra hours" and will probably paid as extra work and yes not only 2k, not even 2k for DAY for 3 hours of training. (a lot more)

All occupations have risks and income. Football is not just an ordinary sport, in which there is a running business. Therefore every soccer player can get a bigger salary, because every field of the job is different.

To be sure, don't ever complain. We never know what burden everyone feels at work.

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Quote from: slackovic on March 19, 2020, 03:55:07 PM

I often see these kind of comments, but I don't know how can anyone compare those two. You could easily ask why should computer programmer earn $5000 a month when worker at a cash register works more hours and gets way less money.

Top football players are in high demand and that's why they get high salary. They aren't payed that much because they can run 90 minutes 300 days a year.

I know but is a fact they are workers, privileged workes with an "easy" job to do.
If normal workers work 8 hours a day for 2k month salary they should not even try to complain if they need to work 1 month more, probably with more hundreds of K as salary.

Because you know that are "extra hours" and will probably paid as extra work and yes not only 2k, not even 2k for DAY for 3 hours of training. (a lot more)

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Quote from: examplens on March 19, 2020, 04:28:55 PM

Quote from: slackovic on March 19, 2020, 03:55:07 PM

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Top football players are in high demand and that's why they get high salary. They aren't payed that much because they can run 90 minutes 300 days a year.

Even if they have a big salary and earn a lot of money, some of them are so stupid. For example Luka Jovic. He leaves isolation specified by his club Real Madrid and goes home in Belgrade to celebrate his birthday with girlfriend and friends. He is also determined quarantine on Belgrade especially when they come from the critical territory. criminal charges will be filed against him with the threat of imprisonment.

Of course there are some stupid actions. I just don't like those "they are payed in millions so they better run" comments. You can give someone a billion dollars to run 100 meters in less than 7 seconds, but no one will be able to do it. They have big salaries because they are in high demand. Not because they are aliens that can do things other humans can't.

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Quote from: slackovic on March 19, 2020, 03:55:07 PM

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Top football players are in high demand and that's why they get high salary. They aren't payed that much because they can run 90 minutes 300 days a year.

Even if they have a big salary and earn a lot of money, some of them are so stupid. For example Luka Jovic. He leaves isolation specified by his club Real Madrid and goes home in Belgrade to celebrate his birthday with girlfriend and friends. He is also determined quarantine on Belgrade especially when they come from the critical territory. criminal charges will be filed against him with the threat of imprisonment.

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Quote from: slackovic on March 19, 2020, 09:26:27 AM

As for the second quote, I'm not saying that it was a bad decision to postpone the EURO2020. I'm just saying that players will have really tight schedule next year and it will be hard to play all those matches. Even this year some players were complaining about playing a lot of games.

If a worker can work 345 of 365 days a year for 20k yearly, I'm pretty sure they can run for 300 days a year for some millions.

I often see these kind of comments, but I don't know how can anyone compare those two. You could easily ask why should computer programmer earn $5000 a month when worker at a cash register works more hours and gets way less money.

Top football players are in high demand and that's why they get high salary. They aren't payed that much because they can run 90 minutes 300 days a year.

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Quote from: slackovic on March 19, 2020, 09:26:27 AM

As for the second quote, I'm not saying that it was a bad decision to postpone the EURO2020. I'm just saying that players will have really tight schedule next year and it will be hard to play all those matches. Even this year some players were complaining about playing a lot of games.

If a worker can work 345 of 365 days a year for 20k yearly, I'm pretty sure they can run for 300 days a year for some millions.

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Quote from: slackovic on March 18, 2020, 10:29:20 AM

Don't believe everything you hear. I heard few times that some company is on the verge of finding a vaccine. The problem is that finding a vaccine for a disease takes tremendous amount of time because everything has to be tested over and over again. You can't give vaccine to few people and think that everything is OK if they are cured. I think we will be lucky if the vaccine is found before the end of this year.

The pandemic confirms indirectly what Mr. Trump does is right (at least in the aspect of economy). Global corporations and financial returns from such global correlations, no. Every nations have to solve their own issues and have to build up their own economy. Relying on the other nations is very stupid. The Covid-19 pandemic confirms it when the world falls into a serious lack of face mask supplies due to main supplies from China was broken.

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The biggest hope for the EUFA CL is that they (UEFA) postponed the EURO2020 so there is still plenty of time to finish the CL in the summer. But even bigger issue is in what shape the players will be? I think they can't even train while the quarantine is in effect.

However, it is fair for all when the whole Europe has nearly in lockdown or will be lockdown soon. All players have to do their own excercises to maitain their healthy fitness for the come back days. The rest matches of national leagues and Champions league & Europa league take lots of time and players also need time-break before joining the Euro 2020. So, in a nutshell, it is the best to reschedule Euro 2020 till 2021.

No, no... Trump is rarely right. He is occasionally, but I think it's pure luck Grin

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I'm not sure what my statement about finding a vaccine has to do with each country solving it's own problems. Don't you think that everyone will have access to vaccine when it's developed? I'm sure that a company that develops a vaccine will put it to market ass soon as possible. For the right price, of course.

As for the second quote, I'm not saying that it was a bad decision to postpone the EURO2020. I'm just saying that players will have really tight schedule next year and it will be hard to play all those matches. Even this year some players were complaining about playing a lot of games.

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Quote from: slackovic on March 18, 2020, 10:29:20 AM

Don't believe everything you hear. I heard few times that some company is on the verge of finding a vaccine. The problem is that finding a vaccine for a disease takes tremendous amount of time because everything has to be tested over and over again. You can't give vaccine to few people and think that everything is OK if they are cured. I think we will be lucky if the vaccine is found before the end of this year.

The pandemic confirms indirectly what Mr. Trump does is right (at least in the aspect of economy). Global corporations and financial returns from such global correlations, no. Every nations have to solve their own issues and have to build up their own economy. Relying on the other nations is very stupid. The Covid-19 pandemic confirms it when the world falls into a serious lack of face mask supplies due to main supplies from China was broken.

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The biggest hope for the EUFA CL is that they (UEFA) postponed the EURO2020 so there is still plenty of time to finish the CL in the summer. But even bigger issue is in what shape the players will be? I think they can't even train while the quarantine is in effect.

However, it is fair for all when the whole Europe has nearly in lockdown or will be lockdown soon. All players have to do their own excercises to maitain their healthy fitness for the come back days. The rest matches of national leagues and Champions league & Europa league take lots of time and players also need time-break before joining the Euro 2020. So, in a nutshell, it is the best to reschedule Euro 2020 till 2021.

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Quote from: slackovic on March 18, 2020, 10:29:20 AM

Don't believe everything you hear. I heard few times that some company is on the verge of finding a vaccine. The problem is that finding a vaccine for a disease takes tremendous amount of time because everything has to be tested over and over again. You can't give vaccine to few people and think that everything is OK if they are cured. I think we will be lucky if the vaccine is found before the end of this year.

Indeed, I also doubt a little about the covid-19 vaccine is difficult to find because it does take some time to be tested, I saw the news on some of my local TV so I talked like that, I will continue to anticipate for myself until the vaccine was really found this year.

Quote from: slackovic on March 18, 2020, 10:29:20 AM

The biggest hope for the EUFA CL is that they (UEFA) postponed the EURO2020 so there is still plenty of time to finish the CL in the summer. But even bigger issue is in what shape the players will be? I think they can't even train while the quarantine is in effect.

EUFA has decided that the EURO will be held in 2021 which is a good decision because there are still some countries that are still handling co-19 in their own countries so for me it is difficult for EURO to be implemented in 2020.
At a time like this no one will practice all of them anxiously and in the end there are some players who return to their respective countries there are also quarantined due to infection.

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it all depends how the virus will go on in the future, if we take China for example, three months should be enough for the situation in Europe to normalize, but that does not means that all will be back to normal after one day, and all will follow numbers and update their decisions accordingly, i presume that June, 27 is too soon to be achievable, because that is four weeks delay, and suspension seems to be at least to May, 1 for the QF, they will probably join rounds in one week, instead this format with two weeks for one match round

But even the epidemics in Europe will be contained next 3 months, it is too soon to say the Euro 2020 will be run this summer. Because there are leagues in the Europe need to be done too (national leagues and Champions League, Europa League). 3 months from now means June, and it will take at least next three months for leagues and a short break for footballers before the Europe can be taken place. So we might have the Europe in very late of this year, it is unrealistic.

Heard news that China has found a vaccine to cure Covid-19 and now will try to some people if the vaccine is successful then China will be mass-produced the vaccine.

Now if China has found a vaccine, it won't be long before European football will start, I know that Keputusa is indeed bitter, but for safety's sake, the boal soccer leaders to stop it, I think early April or May European football will return to play. we'll see in the future.

Don't believe everything you hear. I heard few times that some company is on the verge of finding a vaccine. The problem is that finding a vaccine for a disease takes tremendous amount of time because everything has to be tested over and over again. You can't give vaccine to few people and think that everything is OK if they are cured. I think we will be lucky if the vaccine is found before the end of this year.

The biggest hope for the EUFA CL is that they (UEFA) postponed the EURO2020 so there is still plenty of time to finish the CL in the summer. But even bigger issue is in what shape the players will be? I think they can't even train while the quarantine is in effect.

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Quote from: tranthidung on March 18, 2020, 07:33:39 AM

Quote from: casperBGD on March 18, 2020, 07:16:43 AM

it all depends how the virus will go on in the future, if we take China for example, three months should be enough for the situation in Europe to normalize, but that does not means that all will be back to normal after one day, and all will follow numbers and update their decisions accordingly, i presume that June, 27 is too soon to be achievable, because that is four weeks delay, and suspension seems to be at least to May, 1 for the QF, they will probably join rounds in one week, instead this format with two weeks for one match round

But even the epidemics in Europe will be contained next 3 months, it is too soon to say the Euro 2020 will be run this summer. Because there are leagues in the Europe need to be done too (national leagues and Champions League, Europa League). 3 months from now means June, and it will take at least next three months for leagues and a short break for footballers before the Europe can be taken place. So we might have the Europe in very late of this year, it is unrealistic.

Heard news that China has found a vaccine to cure Covid-19 and now will try to some people if the vaccine is successful then China will be mass-produced the vaccine.

Now if China has found a vaccine, it won't be long before European football will start, I know that Keputusa is indeed bitter, but for safety's sake, the boal soccer leaders to stop it, I think early April or May European football will return to play. we'll see in the future.

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Quote from: casperBGD on March 18, 2020, 07:16:43 AM

it all depends how the virus will go on in the future, if we take China for example, three months should be enough for the situation in Europe to normalize, but that does not means that all will be back to normal after one day, and all will follow numbers and update their decisions accordingly, i presume that June, 27 is too soon to be achievable, because that is four weeks delay, and suspension seems to be at least to May, 1 for the QF, they will probably join rounds in one week, instead this format with two weeks for one match round

But even the epidemics in Europe will be contained next 3 months, it is too soon to say the Euro 2020 will be run this summer. Because there are leagues in the Europe need to be done too (national leagues and Champions League, Europa League). 3 months from now means June, and it will take at least next three months for leagues and a short break for footballers before the Europe can be taken place. So we might have the Europe in very late of this year, it is unrealistic.

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Quote from: examplens on March 17, 2020, 04:26:49 PM

Euro 2020 have been moved to the next year. It is a good decision. UEFA expect that everything can be in normal in June. UCL finale is scheduled to 27 June in Instanbul, do you think it will really be possible to play then? "Only" 102 days until that.

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UEFA confirm Champions League is on hold INDEFINITELY until further notice amid reports final had been delayed until June 27 due to coronavirus crisis

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-8120809/CORONAVIRUS-Champions-League-final-JUNE-27.html?ito=social-facebook&fbclid=IwAR3wPSODiYy1KWnhcvy9mFCUeXAJ6SOtNYUs1riW4wCsE3rCTOfYwNWWnvs

it all depends how the virus will go on in the future, if we take China for example, three months should be enough for the situation in Europe to normalize, but that does not means that all will be back to normal after one day, and all will follow numbers and update their decisions accordingly, i presume that June, 27 is too soon to be achievable, because that is four weeks delay, and suspension seems to be at least to May, 1 for the QF, they will probably join rounds in one week, instead this format with two weeks for one match round

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Euro 2020 have been moved to the next year. It is a good decision. UEFA expect that everything can be in normal in June. UCL finale is scheduled to 27 June in Instanbul, do you think it will really be possible to play then? "Only" 102 days until that.

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UEFA confirm Champions League is on hold INDEFINITELY until further notice amid reports final had been delayed until June 27 due to coronavirus crisis

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-8120809/CORONAVIRUS-Champions-League-final-JUNE-27.html?ito=social-facebook&fbclid=IwAR3wPSODiYy1KWnhcvy9mFCUeXAJ6SOtNYUs1riW4wCsE3rCTOfYwNWWnvs

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Quote from: ampere on March 17, 2020, 09:45:58 AM

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Quote from: DeathAngel on March 16, 2020, 11:27:25 AM

The Euro’s will get scrapped until summer 2021 & the CL, EL & domestic leagues will conclude. I’m very confident of this.

You might be onto something. Some rumours from Spain say that UEFA could void this season (Champions League and Europa League) Shocked

source: https://www.marca.com/en/football/international-football/2020/03/16/5e6fa40a268e3ed2448b4584.html

Instead of voiding this season, UEFA has reached an agreement and has suspended the EUROS to 2021, which is good.
Now european suspended leagues are expected and allowed to schedule their leagues to conclusion

Hopefully, the vaccines to the virus is found and the world is healed.

Don't forget to wash your hands always and stay indoors.

But if Covid-19 can be overcome in the near future then I think UEFA will cancel the suspension because of the huge losses if it continues to be canceled.
Indeed, it is difficult to predict situations like this but I am sure there will be a vaccine that can cure in the near future. Let's see what happens in the future and I want to keep football running smoothly after the situation starts conducive.

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