UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread - page 11.

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Real Madrid needs to get new players because to build and strong team to compete. I read in a speculation that Real Madrid has allocated 400 million dollars budget for the transfer. I read today in a speculation that Cristiano Ronaldo was on Real Madrid's agenda.

There were some rumours regarding Cristiano Ronaldo to join Real Madrid in this transfer window but it was gone already in a short time. If this time is for real then I'm very excited about it already now. Cristiano Ronaldo has had his best years with Real Madrid so far surely. Therefore it sounds great to have him back there. But on the other hand this can be a problematic thing for Benzema. Because he is playing as a centre-forward now and he might have to play as a second striker or something like that when Ronaldo comes.

Benzema has earned maximum respect for Real Madrid and as the current face of Real Madrid. I don't think it will be a problem for Benzema if CR7 comes back to Real Madrid. In addition, Cristiano Ronaldo is a name that attracts attention in the fans and in the media. Real Madrid failed in the transfer of Kylian Mbappé and only a big name like Crisitiana Ronaldo can close this file.

It doesn't really matter whether they succeed with the transfer of Mbappe to Real Madrid. Real Madrid is a great club and they have good players already even in the absence of Mbappe the team is good enough to complete in the UCL and any other elite level. Karim Benzema has already made a mark in the club that will go down in history forever and even if Ronaldo returns it wouldn't be a problem at all.

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Quote from: Minor Miner on June 15, 2022, 02:37:08 PM

I believe if Guardiola cannot win the Champions League with this squad that Manchester City has right now I don't think he will ever be able to do it. And in that case, I think it will be better for Manchester ~~United~~ City to just part ways with Pep Guardiola.

So when he leaves, who is the right coach there? I think City at the moment are still compatible with Guardiola. as for whether he is able or not in the champions league, I think it depends on the teamwork there and removing the current curse because City is like being cursed for the Champions League Cheesy

On the other hand, if Guardiola does leave then this will indeed be one of the losses that City will get later.

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on June 15, 2022, 05:10:17 AM

Last season also Manchester City were favorites in the Champions League, although that could not make them truly champions. Additional ammunition in their attack line is their strategy to add strength to wade through the Champions League next season. We know that they were knocked out by Real Madrid in a painful way, for sure they will make sure it doesn't happen again in the coming season.

Manchester City is indeed very strong and many experts have given statements against Manchester City as the strongest candidate last season. but in reality City had to go home in the second leg against Real madrid because the final score was 6-5 for real madrid victory. Pep Guardiola really learned from the experience of failure last season because Manchester City in this transfer market brought in top strikers, namely Erling Haaland to strengthen the front line in the coming season.

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Manchester City are going to be a huge favourite for the Champions League title next season. They have added a very big player like Erling Haaland to the team and I think that they are complete now. I always believed that they needed this kind of a striker in the team. He is like an all-around player and he can contribute insanely much to the team in terms of scoring many goals. I know that Manchester City haven't had much problem with scoring but now they will be even stronger about that.

I think, this is a welcome development to Manchester city for the new talented player they added to their team. Manchester city will definitely improve higher in next season, because Erling Haaland has a good strategies in his formal team that he will like to introduce it to Manchester city that will help them to perform better in next season. I believe, Manchester city will really go far in next season because their managements has spend a huge amount of money to purchased talented player that will make the team to perform better in next season.

Manchester City is almost regularly upgrading their team but the problem is I don't think they will be satisfied with the results that they are producing with this team, especially in the Champions League. This season Champions League is going to be the main focus of Manchester City. And obviously, they are going to have a lot of problems if they don't win.

Quote from: Lordhermes on June 15, 2022, 09:56:02 AM

After last season's exit from the champions league,I began to imagine what they said Yaya Toure said to Guardiola,that he will never win the champions league with Mancity,because taking a look at Manchester city's performances last season,you see that they did exceptionally well,but why they were eliminated from the tournament is what I don't know.They were the favourites to win that tittle,but it all turned against them.I just feel that there is a hoodoo following Guardiola.

I believe if Guardiola cannot win the Champions League with this squad that Manchester City has right now I don't think he will ever be able to do it. And in that case, I think it will be better for Manchester United to just part ways with Pep Guardiola.

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Quote from: Alanaz on June 15, 2022, 06:49:59 AM

Teams like Manchester City, PSG and several other clubs with the quality of players they have will definitely be favorites in the championship and that is a fact. but in this case regardless of who is the favorite in fact the champion does not know anything like this.
The star players do have a big factor that is definitely expected to win, but on the other hand there are other factors such as team strength, strategy and mentality in winning. This is also very important to support whether or not to be a champion.

The reality is that when you have a team like City, which has star players but more importantly a star manager, it is always a contender to win everything they play. Premier league? They will probably win, FA cup? They will probably win, UCL? They will probably win, whatever they do, they will probably win it. That is what I think will happen with City, Liverpool, Real and Bayern this year.

I know I said two premier league teams, but both of them are always there to win, and they can't be separated in this case. This is why I believe that there are just some teams, not many, only like maybe handful of them, which will play to win everything they play in.

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To judge his qualities as a coach, you need not more time, but more or less fair competition with other competitors. Many can take the top club with the best players and give results. I would like to see him take a club smaller than PSG/Bayern/City and be able to beat one of the listed monsters (not in one game but in the championship). But I think I will never see it because Guardiola will never take such a risk.

I disagree, you could have all kinds of players you want, and still fail to win, look at PSG right now, they have a magnificent squad, like unbelievable levels of talent, and what pochettino did with it. Plus, you guys may think that City is a marvelous team and you are right, but look at the players individually.

Do you really think that all of them would be worth this much if they weren't in city? I mean put each o them on another big club, Bayern, Barcelona, Madrid, Dortmund, Juventus etc etc, and each would have a big fall in value. They are very valuable all together because of Pep if you ask me, they are great, but he makes them even better as a team.

And what did Pochettino do? PSG destroy everyone in Ligue 1 and lost in the Champions League to the winner of the tournament (as did City). City have the most expensive squad in the world and I don't know what else to discuss. https://www.transfermarkt.world/spieler-statistik/wertvollstemannschaften/marktwertetop And yes, Guardiola has already made a billion purchases that other coaches never dreamed of.
City without Guardiola will be the same top club as Bayern left after his departure (anyone even noticed that he left lol?).

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Quote from: lulumiya on June 15, 2022, 04:57:07 AM

Manchester City are going to be a huge favourite for the Champions League title next season. They have added a very big player like Erling Haaland to the team and I think that they are complete now. I always believed that they needed this kind of a striker in the team. He is like an all-around player and he can contribute insanely much to the team in terms of scoring many goals. I know that Manchester City haven't had much problem with scoring but now they will be even stronger about that.

After last season's exit from the champions league,I began to imagine what they said Yaya Toure said to Guardiola,that he will never win the champions league with Mancity,because taking a look at Manchester city's performances last season,you see that they did exceptionally well,but why they were eliminated from the tournament is what I don't know.They were the favourites to win that tittle,but it all turned against them.I just feel that there is a hoodoo following Guardiola.

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Manchester City are going to be a huge favourite for the Champions League title next season. They have added a very big player like Erling Haaland to the team and I think that they are complete now. I always believed that they needed this kind of a striker in the team. He is like an all-around player and he can contribute insanely much to the team in terms of scoring many goals. I know that Manchester City haven't had much problem with scoring but now they will be even stronger about that.

I think, this is a welcome development to Manchester city for the new talented player they added to their team. Manchester city will definitely improve higher in next season, because Erling Haaland has a good strategies in his formal team that he will like to introduce it to Manchester city that will help them to perform better in next season. I believe, Manchester city will really go far in next season because their managements has spend a huge amount of money to purchased talented player that will make the team to perform better in next season.

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on June 15, 2022, 05:10:17 AM

Last season also Manchester City were favorites in the Champions League, although that could not make them truly champions. Additional ammunition in their attack line is their strategy to add strength to wade through the Champions League next season. We know that they were knocked out by Real Madrid in a painful way, for sure they will make sure it doesn't happen again in the coming season.

Almost success the journey or Manchester City on UEFA Champion League last season but little mistake when second leg against with Real Madrid made dreaming get Champion League trophy gone, but Manchester City have prepare with good team for next season with Erling Haaland will make City most stronger than last season, keep worry about how Manchester City mentality on UEFA Champion League, how long keep consistent on top performance. Still waiting for Pep Guardiola how long miss with Champion League trophy after several years ago great achievement with Barcelona.

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Manchester City are going to be a huge favourite for the Champions League title next season. They have added a very big player like Erling Haaland to the team and I think that they are complete now. I always believed that they needed this kind of a striker in the team. He is like an all-around player and he can contribute insanely much to the team in terms of scoring many goals. I know that Manchester City haven't had much problem with scoring but now they will be even stronger about that.

Last season also Manchester City were favorites in the Champions League, although that could not make them truly champions. Additional ammunition in their attack line is their strategy to add strength to wade through the Champions League next season. We know that they were knocked out by Real Madrid in a painful way, for sure they will make sure it doesn't happen again in the coming season.

Teams like Manchester City, PSG and several other clubs with the quality of players they have will definitely be favorites in the championship and that is a fact. but in this case regardless of who is the favorite in fact the champion does not know anything like this.
The star players do have a big factor that is definitely expected to win, but on the other hand there are other factors such as team strength, strategy and mentality in winning. This is also very important to support whether or not to be a champion.

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Quote from: lulumiya on June 15, 2022, 04:57:07 AM

Manchester City are going to be a huge favourite for the Champions League title next season. They have added a very big player like Erling Haaland to the team and I think that they are complete now. I always believed that they needed this kind of a striker in the team. He is like an all-around player and he can contribute insanely much to the team in terms of scoring many goals. I know that Manchester City haven't had much problem with scoring but now they will be even stronger about that.

Last season also Manchester City were favorites in the Champions League, although that could not make them truly champions. Additional ammunition in their attack line is their strategy to add strength to wade through the Champions League next season. We know that they were knocked out by Real Madrid in a painful way, for sure they will make sure it doesn't happen again in the coming season.

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Quote from: Gencecikmen on June 14, 2022, 04:18:45 PM

Benzema has earned maximum respect for Real Madrid and as the current face of Real Madrid. I don't think it will be a problem for Benzema if CR7 comes back to Real Madrid. In addition, Cristiano Ronaldo is a name that attracts attention in the fans and in the media. Real Madrid failed in the transfer of Kylian Mbappé and only a big name like Crisitiana Ronaldo can close this file.

yes it's true, CR7 attracts fans and subscriptions
but I always see it only as a commercial operation rather than a strategic one
I honestly don't know if I would take him on my team (if I could)

this is not the time to spend money like this, you have to do the math well (like Juventus did)

Ronaldo has left a great impression with Real Madrid, he is one of the living legends of Real Madrid, love and honor has been earned there. Ronaldo must consider if he wants to return to Real Madrid, his appearance and sharpness are not what they used to be due to the age factor. If ronaldo fails to live up to the club's expectations on his second chance with Real Madrid, the golden ink that was engraved with Real Madrid will fade.

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Manchester City are going to be a huge favourite for the Champions League title next season. They have added a very big player like Erling Haaland to the team and I think that they are complete now. I always believed that they needed this kind of a striker in the team. He is like an all-around player and he can contribute insanely much to the team in terms of scoring many goals. I know that Manchester City haven't had much problem with scoring but now they will be even stronger about that.

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Quote from: babo on June 15, 2022, 04:27:17 AM

Quote from: Gencecikmen on June 14, 2022, 04:18:45 PM

Benzema has earned maximum respect for Real Madrid and as the current face of Real Madrid. I don't think it will be a problem for Benzema if CR7 comes back to Real Madrid. In addition, Cristiano Ronaldo is a name that attracts attention in the fans and in the media. Real Madrid failed in the transfer of Kylian Mbappé and only a big name like Crisitiana Ronaldo can close this file.

yes it's true, CR7 attracts fans and subscriptions
but I always see it only as a commercial operation rather than a strategic one
I honestly don't know if I would take him on my team (if I could)

this is not the time to spend money like this, you have to do the math well (like Juventus did)

Bringing Ronaldo back to the Real Madrid team is not a good choice, how can Real Madrid continue to recruit old players when they have to start regeneration. The assumption about bringing back to Real Madrid is a big mistake, Ronaldo's contract at Manchester United still has one season left until June 2023 which makes Real Madrid have to spend a lot of money on old players. Unlike the case if Ronaldo's contract has expired then Real Madrid can freely get him, after all there are still many younger players with good talent over time. For now, Real Madrid still have a good squad so that with time Real Madrid can still build a team with fresher players and about the title race of course it will still happen. But there's nothing wrong with not being able to defend the title, because that is something difficult.

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Quote from: Gencecikmen on June 14, 2022, 04:18:45 PM

Benzema has earned maximum respect for Real Madrid and as the current face of Real Madrid. I don't think it will be a problem for Benzema if CR7 comes back to Real Madrid. In addition, Cristiano Ronaldo is a name that attracts attention in the fans and in the media. Real Madrid failed in the transfer of Kylian Mbappé and only a big name like Crisitiana Ronaldo can close this file.

yes it's true, CR7 attracts fans and subscriptions
but I always see it only as a commercial operation rather than a strategic one
I honestly don't know if I would take him on my team (if I could)

this is not the time to spend money like this, you have to do the math well (like Juventus did)

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I am 100% confident that Ronaldo is not coming back to Real Madrid because it’s too late for him, and secondly Real Madrid do not need him now. Also what Mbappe did will be forgotten in the long term if he wishes to go to Real Madrid, because end of day he’ll yet be one of the most lethal striker and with him Real Madrid can continue to target more champions league titles.

Ronaldo wouldn't come back to Real Madrid, it's not about he was too late, but he want to end his career on his old club e.g. Manchester United where he become very popular until now. Not a good move for other clubs who want to buy Ronaldo, he's already old and he might only have around 3-5 years more before he will retire. Without Mbappe, Real Madrid can hunt other good players on low clubs.

I think Cristiano Ronaldo could come back if Real Madrid wanted him like they did when they signed him from Manchester United. But the chances of Real Madrid wanting him are very slim, and even if they did I think Real Madrid would consider it because it would be good for them to look for young players with potential to project for the long term.

Real Madrid now have quite a lot of players over the age of 30, so it's not a good decision to bring in Ronaldo. Even though Real Madrid are
financially capable of paying Ronaldo a high salary, but Real Madrid realized they needed more young players for now, to be able to regenerate
Real Madrid's current squad. So when some of the main players retire or move to other teams, Real Madrid has prepared a replacement.
No wonder Real Madrid finally bought Aurelien Tchouameni who was still 22 years old, it seems that Real Madrid now prefers to gather young players,
because Real Madrid really wants to prepare for their future.

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Real madrid is a great club with great history, great players who have also played and represented the club in the past. Christiano Ronaldo is no exception, he is a legend and Real Madrid can never forget him for his efforts and glory days in Spain. Even after his departure the club has other new and old players also giving in their best, playing for the badge and winning more trophies for the club.

That's obviously true, but what needs to be understood is that Real Madrid has so many great players historically and that includes Christiano Ronaldo that it's not just one person that needs to be taken into account, even though Christiano Ronaldo is a very famous player. Christiano Ronaldo's efforts at Real Madrid before moving to Manchester United were extraordinary, but it also has to do with other players in terms of working together in a team so Real Madrid looks very successful with the cohesiveness of its players in every game.

I think Christiano Ronaldo is a professional player who should have calmed down and devoted his skills to a big club that often wins because if he moves to another club he is not young so it might affect his stamina. Ronaldo should be in the right place by now because Manchester United is a big club that often wins in several matches.

The better thing for Cristiano Ronaldo is to stay at Manchester, in Real Madrid he has left many great memories, an his returns could break it and cause him a fall of popularity. He also has some years, it isn't anymore a kid,

so, this choice to come back to Manchester and close the career over there is the best for him.

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Quote from: Despairo on June 14, 2022, 11:30:59 PM

Quote from: Juggy777 on June 14, 2022, 11:11:11 PM

I am 100% confident that Ronaldo is not coming back to Real Madrid because it’s too late for him, and secondly Real Madrid do not need him now. Also what Mbappe did will be forgotten in the long term if he wishes to go to Real Madrid, because end of day he’ll yet be one of the most lethal striker and with him Real Madrid can continue to target more champions league titles.

Ronaldo wouldn't come back to Real Madrid, it's not about he was too late, but he want to end his career on his old club e.g. Manchester United where he become very popular until now. Not a good move for other clubs who want to buy Ronaldo, he's already old and he might only have around 3-5 years more before he will retire. Without Mbappe, Real Madrid can hunt other good players on low clubs.

I think Cristiano Ronaldo could come back if Real Madrid wanted him like they did when they signed him from Manchester United. But the chances of Real Madrid wanting him are very slim, and even if they did I think Real Madrid would consider it because it would be good for them to look for young players with potential to project for the long term.

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Quote from: Magicalking on June 14, 2022, 12:02:37 PM

Real madrid is a great club with great history, great players who have also played and represented the club in the past. Christiano Ronaldo is no exception, he is a legend and Real Madrid can never forget him for his efforts and glory days in Spain. Even after his departure the club has other new and old players also giving in their best, playing for the badge and winning more trophies for the club.

That's obviously true, but what needs to be understood is that Real Madrid has so many great players historically and that includes Christiano Ronaldo that it's not just one person that needs to be taken into account, even though Christiano Ronaldo is a very famous player. Christiano Ronaldo's efforts at Real Madrid before moving to Manchester United were extraordinary, but it also has to do with other players in terms of working together in a team so Real Madrid looks very successful with the cohesiveness of its players in every game.

I think Christiano Ronaldo is a professional player who should have calmed down and devoted his skills to a big club that often wins because if he moves to another club he is not young so it might affect his stamina. Ronaldo should be in the right place by now because Manchester United is a big club that often wins in several matches.

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Quote from: Magicalking on June 14, 2022, 12:02:37 PM

Real madrid is a great club with great history, great players who have also played and represented the club in the past. Christiano Ronaldo is no exception, he is a legend and Real Madrid can never forget him for his efforts and glory days in Spain. Even after his departure the club has other new and old players also giving in their best, playing for the badge and winning more trophies for the club.

That's obviously true, but what needs to be understood is that Real Madrid has so many great players historically and that includes Christiano Ronaldo that it's not just one person that needs to be taken into account, even though Christiano Ronaldo is a very famous player. Christiano Ronaldo's efforts at Real Madrid before moving to Manchester United were extraordinary, but it also has to do with other players in terms of working together in a team so Real Madrid looks very successful with the cohesiveness of its players in every game.

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